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#1  May 18, 2011, 02:16:46 am
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Now, with MK9 and Skullgirls being released this year, perhaps there's a chance of seeing more fighters(as well as brawlers, and beat em' up's) coming from te western region?

Maybe a revival of Killer Instinct and Clayfighter?

Show Japan(and Korea and Taiwan) that they're not the only one that can make fighters.

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#2  May 18, 2011, 02:55:22 am
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#4  May 18, 2011, 03:30:30 am
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Nope. Kula is really the only exception.

And by RARE do you mean KI or RARE in general?

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#5  May 18, 2011, 03:31:39 am
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You know, I have this strange feeling that some series will soon reach their creative endings (and that some already have). Don't kill me here, but I feel that way about Tekken (after Tag 2), Darkstalkers and...Killer Instinct.

While hoping I'm wrong, I do not see those series ever getting sequels...unless, of course, their respective Companies have ambitious directors...which I don't think they have...yet.
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yeah, I agree; I also think that darkstalkers will soon reach it's creative end and they will stop releasing new darkstaker games for over 10 years.

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#7  May 18, 2011, 03:42:24 am
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IIRC, Namco earns the most profit off of Tekken games, not to mention they're working on TxSF after Tag 2. Don't count on that dying for a good while.

Darkstalkers is not dead as it's popular and both Ono and Niitsuma likes the series so it may come back.

I have no fucking clue what's going on with KI other than what I posted before.
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IIRC, Namco earns the most profit off of Tekken games, not to mention they're working on TxSF after Tag 2. Don't count on that dying for a good while.

Darkstalkers is not dead as it's popular and both Ono and Niitsuma likes the series so it may come back.

I have no fucking clue what's going on with KI other than what I posted before.

Yeah, I so enjoy all those darkstalkers games they release every two years.
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Dont worry, Kazuya will eventually beat Jin and just before killing him Jin will send a message to his past self with the message "He must win" and then BOOM! TEKKEN REBOOT!

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#10  May 18, 2011, 03:48:48 am
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Darkstalkers is not dead as it's popular and both Ono and Niitsuma likes the series so it may come back.
Ok, not dead is stretching it but whatever.

Dont worry, Kazuya will eventually beat Jin and just before killing him Jin will send a message to his past self with the message "He must win" and then BOOM! TEKKEN REBOOT!
Or they'll just keep throwing each other and Heihachi off cliffs so they'll never die.
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#11  May 18, 2011, 03:49:40 am
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Well to be honest Clayfighter is getting a new game but I think it's just WiiStore.

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#12  May 18, 2011, 05:25:26 am
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i dont know why they dont make a serious sequel for dead or alive on home consoles...
really...its way more better then a lot of 3D fighters out there...

urban reign was good enough to deserve a sequel...

and...forget EA and def jam...aki corporation should just make another brawler using there own fictional characters...they can just call it...urban jam...

again...those titles had good notable successes and strong fanbases...so...why the hell not...

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#13  May 18, 2011, 05:31:02 am
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Dead or Alive gets more interest from the TITS then it does from being serious, they even made spin-offs for gods sake, they'll become serious again when sex(y) doesn't sell.

As for Aki making a new Def Jam, I'm not sure if EA would give it to them if they did decide for a new one, considering the last one wasn't theirs

Damn I liked Fight for NY too  :doom:

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#14  May 18, 2011, 04:22:44 pm
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lol, Satou Sei! Darkstalkers and Killer Instinct fit the "already have" part of my comment, haha.

@MalaDingDong: Yeah, I know, but Crossovers don't count. I meant Canon Sequels. On Tekken's case, I don't know what's more to do after beating the devil. IMO, that's as far as you can go, if your game is not a Crossover.
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#15  May 18, 2011, 04:25:58 pm
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aliens. you have to fight demon,aliens then after that god. and a mirror image of youself. or a clone
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#16  May 18, 2011, 09:51:29 pm
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Darkstalkers is not dead as it's popular and both Ono and Niitsuma likes the series so it may come back.
Raising an eyebrow on that. (Yeah, I have issues with MvC3.)

One of my concerns for a Killer Instinct sequel is how it could compete with the fighting games available now. How many average Joe's have heard of Killer Instinct? If it were to get a sequel, I have a bad feeling it could just get marked off as being nothing but a Mortal Kombat rip-off.
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I have no fucking clue what's going on with KI other than what I posted before.
As I know, RARE now only care his Banjo & Kazooie, Conker and all their kids stuff related. I miss when they made stuff like Killer Instinct... or Battletoads in the 80s-90s :sugoi:
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#19  May 19, 2011, 12:20:58 am
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#20  May 19, 2011, 03:17:07 am
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Darkstalkers is not dead as it's popular and both Ono and Niitsuma likes the series so it may come back.
Raising an eyebrow on that. (Yeah, I have issues with MvC3.)

One of my concerns for a Killer Instinct sequel is how it could compete with the fighting games available now. How many average Joe's have heard of Killer Instinct? If it were to get a sequel, I have a bad feeling it could just get marked off as being nothing but a Mortal Kombat rip-off.
You mean like what they did when the game first debuted? There were a lot of MK rip-offs.

Also, we probably could just have Japan ans Taiwan be the only countries that makes Fighting titles of all kinds. No one else.

Show Japan(and Korea and Taiwan) that they're not the only one that can make fighters.
SMH

What does that stand for?

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#21  May 19, 2011, 03:23:36 am
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Shake my head. It means disapproval.

Of course he's a KOF fanboy, so it shouldn't matter.
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#22  May 19, 2011, 03:27:49 am
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you see it's just that kof is perfection
and you got it totally wrong, I was referring to the fact that there needs to be some productivity in the west in said department to balance out some sort of unexistant empty cause and fixing what's not broken in the first place (SEE WHAT THAT MANAGED TO BRING UPON US; hint: mk)


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Also, we probably could just have Japan ans Taiwan be the only countries that makes Fighting titles of all kinds. No one else.
as if:
1_ that's a bad thing
2_ mk is any good to begin with



also MELVANA WONT YOU STEP IN AND ENLIGHTEN US ABOUT HOW MK IS A RIPOFF ITSELF IN EVERY ASPECT
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Shake my head. It means disapproval.

Of course he's a KOF fanboy, so it shouldn't matter.
So, that person only wnts the Eastern Region(or just Japan) to make Brawlers.

Well, they tend to make the best. What does West have to even reach their level? Because Mortal Kombat wasn't exactly that back then.
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#24  May 19, 2011, 03:33:18 am
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is there any non japanese fighting game that's decent ?
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I am trying to be serious there.
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#27  May 19, 2011, 04:01:38 am
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Of course E's a KOF fanboy, so it shouldn't matter.
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#28  May 19, 2011, 04:42:02 am
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kof was made by mexicans
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#33  May 19, 2011, 08:20:43 am
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is there any non japanese fighting game that's decent ?

mortal kombat 9

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#34  May 19, 2011, 08:24:13 am
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As well as MK2 and UMK3, but your second sentence also applies so I should not have even bothered.
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#35  May 19, 2011, 08:33:31 am
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MK2 and UMK3 are solid games dude.  I am not going to defend the rest of the series because they are all rendered pretty bad by bugs, but I don't see how you can discredit 2 and Ultimate 3.

Also the latter part was not directed at you so sorry if I offended.
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#37  May 19, 2011, 10:23:14 pm
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I am trying to be serious there.


Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct sagas are the best representatives of non-jap fighting games so far. And there're some good attempts, like Primal Rage :P
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Wut? there's people who thinks UMK3 is not a buggy game? Hell every single time I play that game I find alot of shit on it.
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#41  May 20, 2011, 02:50:07 am
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I said decent games, why are you even bringing up ki adn mk ?  :'(
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#42  May 20, 2011, 03:11:41 am
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I am not the one ignoring that they are not decent fighting games at all. that makes you the ignorant one. also, your penis is small, your mom told me.

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martial masters wasn't japanese and that was one of the coolest fighting games i've ever played so
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#47  May 20, 2011, 03:54:38 am
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no, you got it wrong, i call people idiots for thinking battle monsters and the like is a complete mk ripoff
that movie what's its name, i just saw a TRAILER of it and it looked older than mk AND right away I could tell mk was a blatant carbon copy of it JUST FROM THE TRAILER, yeah so much creativity and originality it hurts



How are they not decent?
they are not decent because I can beat you in pretty much any fighter

ask [E] if you don't believe me, he was the only one who played me when my net was good
or fight him because you can't beat me if you can't beat him

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#48  May 20, 2011, 03:58:04 am
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they are not decent because I can beat you in pretty much any fighter

ask [E] if you don't believe me, he was the only one who played me when my net was good
or fight him because you can't beat me if you can't beat him

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None of this has anything to do with what I asked.

Shut up.
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#49  May 20, 2011, 03:59:40 am
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I have yet to see anyone bring up valid points as to WHY Mortal Kombat 9 (Or MK2 for that matter) is not a decent fighting game.

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It's because he can beat you in pretty much any fighter.
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Shit, you're right.  Well looks like I can't argue with that.  Sorry I tried to argue.
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no, you have to say why they are decnt, because they are not. all videogames are shitty unless proven not to be.
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#53  May 20, 2011, 04:22:54 am
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but proving he can beat me is easier
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I think he meant that they are good until proven otherwise.
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#58  May 26, 2011, 06:30:10 am
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Same topic; different forum.
Maybe one person have a point there. Even if there was a good non Japanese Fighter-Brawler outside of Nippon, many would just overlooked it in favor for a very-known Japanese Title.

It's one of the reasons why SkullGirls was Bashed in Nippon.

"LOL, Yanks are trying to make their own fighting game. It's going to suck! Only the Nipponese can make good fighters!"
Why bother entering a realm wth the best?

Think about which Country and Nation(well, America is a State Country) is suited for the best Video Game Genre.
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#60  May 31, 2011, 07:30:31 am
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wow ,me being from america i can say ,yeah we are not very ...idealistic ...when it comes to fighting games. MK series is so far the best we have had to offer so far. i havent played skullgirls ( just seen it) but it looks cool.

I guess from over here standpoint is that America isnt as tuned in with the Martial world and concepts as much as Nippon world is.we arent as diversified yet...just now mimicing the anime asthetics into gameplay from what i saw of Skullgirls.  If anything..western world owns Shooting genre. its very semi one dimensional and straight forward  but yet it can be applied in many tactical ways with it . but pretty much ..point and click. Fighting games seem to be more broader in scope and you really have to have a great vision for movesets , abilities and alot of outside the box thinking.

Mugen to me is definetly bridging that gap.showing some good creators are from anywhere.

My thoughts tho...best fighting games i ever played are always japanese./taiwanese/koren...nippon. MK and KI are indeed tho decent fighting games from the states.
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#61  May 31, 2011, 10:11:35 am
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I hear several consider System 3's International Karate + not only the best pre-SFII fighting game created by a European company, but one of the best (if not, the best) out of all pre-SFII fighting games.

For the best North American pre-SFII fighting game, I hear more positive thoughts about Atari's Pit-Fighter.
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#62  June 01, 2011, 01:00:41 am
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Now, with MK9 and Skullgirls being released this year, perhaps there's a chance of seeing more fighters(as well as brawlers, and beat em' up's) coming from te western region?

Maybe a revival of Killer Instinct and Clayfighter?

Show Japan(and Korea and Taiwan) that they're not the only one that can make fighters.

   No offense but IMO Clayfighter has to rank among one of the stupidest fighting games ever made, like, it's a total embarassment... Like something Homer Simpson would have put together lol.... But KI fucking rocks.
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No offense but IMO Clayfighter has to rank among one of the stupidest fighting games ever made, like, it's a total embarassment...
ClayFighter saga was made as a parody of fighting games since the beginning, similar than Power Instinct/Gouketsuji Ichizoku in Japan. Especially the last titles (CF 63 1/3 and Sculptor's Cut), where they mocked about Killer Instinct (combo system, Insane (a.k.a. Ultra) Combos) and Mortal Kombat (Fat--Claytalities), the best 2 representatives of western fighting games
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the problem was that it was an awful parody, not funny at all, chunky gameplay, horrible graphics with shitty framerate and totally boring character design.

Kind of reminds me of some mugen chars now that I think about it.
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the problem was that it was an awful parody, not funny at all, chunky gameplay, horrible graphics with shitty framerate and totally boring character design.

i am confus :???: are you talking about ki, cf or mk ?
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#67  June 01, 2011, 11:52:07 pm
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I almost think the same about all of them  :D

But I actually liked MK, it was a fast game towards MK3  :)

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How am I doing that? I'm not constantly agreeing with you and trying to be your best friend even though you don't even recognize my existence, unlike what you're doing with [E].

Oh wait, i'm sucking you because you can beat me in pretty much any fighting game. Sorry.

EDIT: And [E] finally decides to notice you. Go have yourself a little party now.
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#73  June 03, 2011, 03:09:52 am
  • ******
  • [E]
    • Mexico
oww you are just jealous.  :)
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#74  June 03, 2011, 03:11:15 am
  • *****
i can beat you in etc etc
go fight e to prove otherwise
"I’m never gonna grab anything by its balls, especially life. especially if life shows up in the incarnation where it would have testicles. if life showed up and had balls, the last thing I would do is grab those balls" - kyle kinane

MDD

Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#75  June 03, 2011, 03:13:45 am
  • ******
  • OG Pallette Goon
  • Only here for one night let me put it on ya face
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#76  June 03, 2011, 03:15:23 am
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  • チョンリサ
    • Canada
Settle this on Final Destination you fruitcups.
you can't mixup a blind man, and you can't out think a brick ~skisonic
Street fighting is all about analysis, prediction, and reaction. That's it.

Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#77  June 03, 2011, 03:23:22 am
  • ******
  • [E]
    • Mexico

MDD

Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#78  June 03, 2011, 03:27:18 am
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  • OG Pallette Goon
  • Only here for one night let me put it on ya face
Bigger? I don't even have any fanboys.  :'(

I don't want them anyways.
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#79  June 03, 2011, 03:32:58 am
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what? impossible

my fanboys have fanboys

must be so lonely
"I’m never gonna grab anything by its balls, especially life. especially if life shows up in the incarnation where it would have testicles. if life showed up and had balls, the last thing I would do is grab those balls" - kyle kinane
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#80  June 03, 2011, 03:52:35 am
  • ******
  • Fuck You.
succ[e]ssful
i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...


http://nero-blanco.deviantart.com/
Re: Non-Japanese Fighters and Brawlers?
#81  June 03, 2011, 07:38:29 am
  • ****
  • feeding off whatever energy is out there...
    • Canada
    • knoc_on_wood@yahoo.com
I almost think the same about all of them  :D

But I actually liked MK, it was a fast game towards MK3  :)
mk4 was just as fast...

i cant be the only man who played and liked tao fang fist of lotus...
i mean...the roster was original and interesting...and the gameplay was pretty solid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jcg9LGZW_A
i would love to see a sequel...but...it just aint gon happen...

infamy at its finest...