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Street Fighter II = 100% original? (HAPPY 20TH ANNIV.!) (Read 5386 times)

Started by 1983parrothead, February 17, 2011, 05:20:35 am
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Street Fighter II = 100% original? (HAPPY 20TH ANNIV.!)
#1  February 17, 2011, 05:20:35 am
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For some reason, I've been hearing a lot of people loving Capcom's SFII, while calling other fighting games released later "rip-offs", which makes me think they'll turn their backs against them and go play SFII several more times while thinking like "SFII is and will always be the best fighting game on Earth".  Even several people consider things that help some post-SFII fighting games differentiate from SFII aren't enough to be appreciated over SFII.  Some believe it's ludicrous to stick with the first one over a similar, but superior one released later.

If many gamers don't want others to take ideas from SFII, then how come many don't care about SFII borrowing/stealing ideas from pre-SFII fighting games, as well as others like animes and real people?

This list shows the first kinds of fighting games in history, some very interesting, some not-so interesting.

Characters in post-SFII fighting games not as original as SFII's roster?  Well how do you explain all these and its next pages?
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#2  February 17, 2011, 05:38:47 am
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Honestly the whole Mortal Kombat rip-off thing is more noticeable as people have called stuff like Battle Monsters MK rip-offs even though of course lol it plays nothing like MK at all. With Tattoo Assassins it's more obvious but it's more of a parody than anything; and hell Nightwolf is a rip-off of Billy Two Moons so yeah

But I'm going off topic: with Street Fighter rip-offs it's kinda assumptive to say something like....Kaiser Knuckle or World Heroes is something is one of them. Fight Fever is understandable because it barely tries to differentiate itself (same world tour plot, two really boring main characters, etc), but that's kind of more SNK related than anything. Then again in general it's just really bad so that might've come to mind out of bias

And that rip-off page? Yeah, most of them are kind of insane. The Juri / Jolyne Kujo one is barely noticeable.



Heh. Honestly....
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#3  February 17, 2011, 05:44:38 am
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You are absolutely fooling yourself if you think the majority of 90s fighters are not attempts to ride Street Fighter II's coat tails.  And there's such a thing as designs that pay homage to other characters and celebrities, that's a bit different than taking an entire game, copying it and making a few minor differences a la a crappy knockoff brand cereal.
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#4  February 17, 2011, 06:02:54 am
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apparently fatal fury one was in development before sfii was released, so it's hard to call it a ripoff, plus sf2 comes aftter sf1, which itself was a ripoff karate champ.
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#5  February 17, 2011, 06:44:47 am
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Honestly the whole Mortal Kombat rip-off thing is more noticeable as people have called stuff like Battle Monsters MK rip-offs even though of course lol it plays nothing like MK at all. With Tattoo Assassins it's more obvious but it's more of a parody than anything; and hell Nightwolf is a rip-off of Billy Two Moons so yeah

But I'm going off topic: with Street Fighter rip-offs it's kinda assumptive to say something like....Kaiser Knuckle or World Heroes is something is one of them. Fight Fever is understandable because it barely tries to differentiate itself (same world tour plot, two really boring main characters, etc), but that's kind of more SNK related than anything. Then again in general it's just really bad so that might've come to mind out of bias

And that rip-off page? Yeah, most of them are kind of insane. The Juri / Jolyne Kujo one is barely noticeable.



Heh. Honestly....
apparently fatal fury one was in development before sfii was released, so it's hard to call it a ripoff, plus sf2 comes aftter sf1, which itself was a ripoff karate champ.

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It's okay to talk about Mortal Kombat.  Strata's Time Killers is the Fatal Fury 1 in the MK competition.  Although Time Killers was released a few months after MK1, it was in development at the same time as MK1.

SFI is more like Yie Ar Kung-Fu on crack, with Karate Champ used as 2P Mode, while adding some elements from other pre-SFI fighters.  This is probably the reason why others like Konami, Data East and Technos Japan decided to counter attack Capcom.


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Some of FightingStreet.com's comparisons might just be coincidences. Some might be serious tributes to the ones they are compared to.  Who knows?  If you look at the game Plok for the SNES, you might think it's a tribute/rip-off of Ubisoft's Rayman, but the Pickford Bros. who created Plok said they didn't design Plok after Rayman, so it's either a coincidence, or whoever disagrees with the Pickford Bros. believes they lied.

Fight Fever is poorly made, because its developer and SNK's then-Korean distributor, Viccom, was not only new to fighting game development, but generally video game development other than distributing.  They were most likely trained and assisted by SNK. Without developing Fight Fever, their superior fighting game released later for 3DO and MS-DOS, The Eye of Typhoon, would be as poorly made as Fight Fever.  Some people like Fight Fever's gameplay over Fatal Fury 1's, especially when you know how to play it well.

I noticed that Fight Fever mostly has elements of Fatal Fury 2/Special and AoF, as seen in this video and its description.  Han Baedal was most likely modeled after both SF's Ryu and AoF's Ryo Sakazaki, because they were both created by the same employee(s) that worked for both Capcom and SNK, and Han's moveset is a combination of Ryu's and Ryo's.  The creator(s) of Ryu and Ryo might have created Han Baedal for Viccom.  Speaking of Ryo, his voice actor voiced Fight Fever's final boss Karate Kenji.
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#6  February 17, 2011, 10:33:45 am
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People call fighting games SF2 ripoffs because SF2 was the fighting game that made the genre mainstream :P
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#7  February 17, 2011, 11:42:03 am
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MK 1 was a lot more different to Streetfighter II at least than Art of Fighting , Fatal Fury and many other fighting games which were released later *cough*

What was earlier btw Mk 1 or Art of Fighting?

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#8  February 17, 2011, 11:44:06 am
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MK1.
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#9  February 17, 2011, 11:50:55 am
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street fighter games are a pool of homages to fighting movies and martial arts stereotypes. There is little doubt that jolyne is Juri inspiration, and that tintin pic isnt that odd when you notice that they have not only the same hair as the same stubby round nose.
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#11  February 18, 2011, 03:41:13 am
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#12  February 18, 2011, 06:26:31 am
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SF2 sucks anyways. Smash Brothers basically renders every fighting game obsolete.
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#13  February 18, 2011, 06:27:07 am
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#14  February 18, 2011, 08:12:53 am
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every fps game is a ripoff of wolfenstein 3D/doom

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#15  February 18, 2011, 11:48:40 am
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So, Doom and Wolfenstein are a ripoff of each other? :trollface
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#16  February 18, 2011, 11:52:39 am
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All games are rip off's of Pong. Because they use pixels to display graphics and code to make things happen.


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#17  February 18, 2011, 12:34:07 pm
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And pong is the hack of an oscillometer, so all games are ripoffs of a hack.

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#20  February 18, 2011, 12:56:41 pm
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We had science classes, but when I'd imagine something like that would be coming up in the teachers lesson plan, the assholes in class would ruin it for everybody by not listening, causing trouble, or not allowing them to go over things before we left for the lab. God knows what other cool things I missed out on in grade school due to dipshits wanting to give teachers a hard time.  :(