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#1  April 20, 2012, 12:58:14 am
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Reminds me that I never actually found a bookstore where they sold the other Street Fighter Alpha manga parts.
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#4  April 20, 2012, 01:23:27 pm
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when the characters were supossed to be cool, not silly parodies of their former selves

This article is about manga where Elena talks to trees and the author's Mary Sue Karin stands on top of a pyramid of jocks just to look defiantly at Sakura.

The guy may do decent action scenes and be daring enough to have Ryu doing plausible criminal work and dan fighting competently, but there's plenty of silliness there Capcom didn't shy away from embracing.
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Quality wise, for completely original stuff, is hard to do these days. Remember that Street Fighter 2 had some of the most stereotypical character creations ever. Guile was based off of the common American action hero, like Stallone and Schwarzenegger. Fast forward to today, and our stereotypes for the American include Rufus and Bob. You went from a strong stereotype to a fat and lazy stereotype. They got that part right.

On the other hand, yeah, stop fucking with consistency Capcom. Killing off a main character adds shock value for sure, but the aftermath from fans isn't pretty. I remember when Boon and Tobias decided to remove Scorpion from MK3's initial release. The game was great (IMO) without him, but would you know it, he was brought back in the Ultimate update.
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Its not as if capcom was adapting what ryu final did. You never saw ryu used as a final boss or anything like that if anything they adapted a few ideas and hints here and there, but ono has kept doing that, the evil ryu from sf4 having the hole in his chest from final manga , the wind fist being the same used in final manga, etc.

>when the characters were supossed to be cool,
I dont see how that changed from alpha to 4, maybe you are just jaded?

>not silly parodies of their former selves,
I dont see this at all?

> when a dead character stayed dead
What "dead" character? Charlie being killed dozens of times? Bison being killed and "rebuilt" ?
Dan dying in the end of alpha 3? There was never any "dead" characters in street fighter, they just phased them out and tried new ones.
Maybe Gouken? But even then he was never shown to be dead, just said to be by narration.
This complaint is extra weird considering we are talking about the manga where
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>and character would feel remorse for killing;
Who? Where?

I loved those books, got them right here in a shelf, but arent you rose tinting this too much? Sure, it would have been fun if they had forwarded the story like the manga intended, making Ryu a new hidden boss character and all, but capcom never once showed any intention of doing any of this, decades before ono name even popped around the sf games.
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> when a dead character stayed dead
What "dead" character? Charlie being killed dozens of times? Bison being killed and "rebuilt" ?
Dan dying in the end of alpha 3? There was never any "dead" characters in street fighter, they just phased them out and tried new ones.
Maybe Gouken? But even then he was never shown to be dead, just said to be by narration.

Nearly everyone that Akuma supposedly killed permanently by the time SF3's story came back.

Gouken
Gen(kinda died on his own though)
Adon(supposedly, don't really know where that came from though)
M.Bison(understandably why he came back, but he was supposed to be dead for good after SF2)

To be fair Charlie hasn't come back...yet. He actually died in SFA3 and has stayed dead so far. Also Goutetsu is still dead. SSF4 just made Akuma seem really weak and inefficient compared to what he was in SF3.
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Goutetsu is still dead, and the only person that Gouki had killed other than him was Gouken.

Gen had the whole "sick and dying " storyline but he didnt die "on screen" so its relatively up for grabs.
Charlie died in sfa1, sfa2, sfa3 ( and xmen vs streetfighter )
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Yeah but he OFFICIALLY died in  SFA3. :P Also, Adon being killed by Akuma is from somewhere but I dunno. Maybe from Udon? Making it not official. But whatever.

And Bison being permanently killed by Akuma at the end of SF2 was supposed to be a permanent thing and kind of a big deal. Shun Goku Satsu killing his soul or something like that. But nope!
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Adon ending had him going after Akuma, never was it said he was dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEcaRtR_Eo4

Gen ending had him face bison and complain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gTkG8BjyZk
Not die.

Akuma and Gen face in shin akuma ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ji1kBLLC5u4#t=490s
but it fades off with them dashing at each other.

Sf2 had akuma jump in and kill bison, but bison was killed a heck of a lot of times in that alpha 3 endings.

There are endings with sodom blowing himself up even. but adon and gen dying didnt happen anywhere.
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bison move from one body to the other, he never really dies.
but it is about time capcom design new costume for these chars.
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To be fair Charlie hasn't come back...yet.
Didn't he supposedly save Abel?
Then again, we don't know when that took place.

Adon being killed by Akuma? That's new to me.
As Iced said, for some reason Akuma appears in some of Adon's endings
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/d/sfa2ado.htm
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/b/sfa3ado.htm
But that's it.

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Also, I'd never take these awful articles seriously. Most of ANN's staff are just plain terrible when it comes to this, more so when they're analyzing a medium that is out of their field (video games)
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I don't remember where the Adon death was from. I believe it could have been in the Street Fighter Plot Guide. There's a couple of results on google saying that I didn't completely make that up but nothing official.
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Charlie died in sfa1, sfa2, sfa3 ( and xmen vs streetfighter )

In XvSF he's just experimented on to become Shadow in MvSF (the shadow character mini-subplot could have gone in interesting directions, too bad they stopped using it after MvC, since by then there were already 3 Capcom characters with such versions, so it's something they could have continued in their own games independently of Marvel) - XvSF already had hints for its sequel, such as Sakura and Dan being in one of the endings at least, and would later appear in MSHvSF as well.


As for evil Ryu becoming a final boss, isn't that essentially his role in the Asura's Wrath DLC, off-canon as that might be? (also the NGPC SvC, now that I think about it)
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#15  April 20, 2012, 03:31:17 pm
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Charlie death in xvs sf was just sort of hinted, like most of the other times he died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6AzG_-Ric
Guile finds his dogtags and comments on getting revenge, etc , nothing prevents charlie from being alive and Abel story seems to hint at him being saved by him.

Shit for all its worth Goutetsu could come back, even if he is the only person that Akuma has killed (related to others and not just random challengers)  so far.
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Charlie death in xvs sf was just sort of hinted, like most of the other times he died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6AzG_-Ric
Guile finds his dogtags and comments on getting revenge, etc , nothing prevents charlie from being alive and Abel story seems to hint at him being saved by him.

That's the interesting thing, they played with the expectation, but all we see is an operating table, mentions of excruciating pain and lost dogtags - but ni the following game, there he is, and in Shadow Lady's ending in MvC we see something of the sort happening to Jin in different circumstances: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7jKWSSAkqY (could only find it in spanish on a short notice)

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Shit for all its worth Goutetsu could come back, even if he is the only person that Akuma has killed (related to others and not just random challengers)  so far.

I'd like to see his gameplay (especially considering how different Gouken, Gouki and Oni play and him being their teacher), but I don't see Capcom bothering, he's not famous enough and most of the characters that are are much further ahead in the SF timeline. At most, maybe some unlikely crossover where oddball characters are welcome and timelines are even less of a concern than they were in SF4.
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Karin stands on top of a pyramid of jocks just to look defiantly at Sakura.
This sounds like the greatest thing ever.

Also, I'd never take these awful articles seriously. Most of ANN's staff are just plain terrible when it comes to this, more so when they're analyzing a medium that is out of their field (video games)
It felt like half the article was just the author talking about how the US cartoon could NEVER do anything as cool as these mangas. It really got on my nerves.

I also was rolling my eyes when he complained about how Guile was made into the main character in the movie; up to that point Ryu had absolutely zero connections with Bison so focusing the movie on Guile (and Chun-Li to a lesser extent), whose entire storyline was about getting revenge on Bison was just common sense.
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canon wise sfz1 and 2 are the same game storyline wise. so dictator thinks he kills charlie in sfz12 then he kills him for good in sfz3. Everything else has already been adressed by caddie.
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Akuma never killed Gen either btw, Akuma refused to fight him after finding out he was ill. 
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Even if that got changed into something less damaged, the reason for the "hanging on one side" Gi was because it was torn, as well as his head scar. Gouken's concept is that he survived whern Akuma left him for dead, which could be very plausible.

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#21  April 20, 2012, 10:48:31 pm
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i dunno man sounds like a "before it was mainstream" with a side of "the book (manga) is better".
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lol. it was far more mainstream before.
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#24  April 21, 2012, 12:06:36 am
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It was part of the designs for sf4 and i remember seeing it posted back then. If you consider the manga, you can see that gouken is replacing ryu in that thing. Down to being a secret character showing up and the damage on his body.

Equating the manga to be "Before ono" is weird and I dont know why you are painting it as that when Ono has been adapting more stuff from the manga than it was adapted before.
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I don't know what's with the worry about characters becoming "silly parodies" either.  A lot of the goofballs in SF (Honda, Zangief, Blanka, Dan, etc.) have always been that way even before Ono.  You could probably make a case for Ken being more of a joke punchline these days though, with Akuma being Ryu's "real" rival now.
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no, but he really feels that way, he's stated it more than once how he just can't get on board WITH THE MOST AWESOME STREET FIGHTER YET SSF4
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Street fighter before ono was THE F***ING SHIT , became instint classic that Capcom kept remaking more times then we could take

Ono pretty much decided to end the infinit lop of remaking by given us SF4 , damn was im happy and dispointed at the same time, was happy SF finaly have a new game, but dispointed that the graphics turned 3D
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#29  April 21, 2012, 08:05:33 am
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On ryu
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Charlie death in xvs sf was just sort of hinted, like most of the other times he died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6AzG_-Ric
Guile finds his dogtags and comments on getting revenge, etc , nothing prevents charlie from being alive and Abel story seems to hint at him being saved by him.

that looks like a reference from kamen rider
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no, but he really feels that way, he's stated it more than once how he just can't get on board WITH THE MOST AWESOME STREET FIGHTER YET SSF4

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Muppets theme. Anyway sf with ono is like final fantasy without sakaguchi.
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afaik, adon survived his fight against gouki in sfz2.
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Adon being killed by Akuma is from somewhere but I dunno. Maybe from Udon? Making it not official.
Dee Jay killed Adon canonically
Really?
According to SFA3 yeah

Adon shows up in SF4 which takes place after SFA3  , there is also the passiblity that some incounters between characters never actaully happened , and since Adon is pretty much alive in SF4 means that he never was killed
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You realize I'm joking since it's kinda common knowledge everything Dee Jay did in SFA3 was non-canon, right? Otherwise Sagat would've been dead too.

Basically I was joking around with a common point of ridicule of Dee Jay's character is that instead of showing him as a strong fighter aesthetically (ie: Ryu channeling his energy into fireballs, Dhalsim stretching his limbs, Blanka fighting like a beast), they do it by ham-fisted storylines where he's just somehow able to take down series mainstays easily when common sense says he's crap and was slapped together with no thought on design.
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You realize I'm joking since it's kinda common knowledge everything Dee Jay did in SFA3 was non-canon, right? Otherwise Sagat would've been dead too.

Basically I was joking around with a common point of ridicule of Dee Jay's character is that instead of showing him as a strong fighter aesthetically (ie: Ryu channeling his energy into fireballs, Dhalsim stretching his limbs, Blanka fighting like a beast), they do it by ham-fisted storylines where he's just somehow able to take down series mainstays easily when common sense says he's crap and was slapped together with no thought on design.

some may actaully believe it, I don't think alot of people here played the game for the story
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#42  April 22, 2012, 12:26:49 pm
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- Devil Raptor B: Stop acting as if you were the LAW in SF. SF4 was a EPIC retcon to the SF story. People here has played SF since the SF2 or even from SF1. We actually know the story behind and etc. SFZ2 retcons SFZ1m, SF3:GA retcons SF3:NG, OF COURSE, but not at the same point as SF4.

Mistakes that SF4 has:
- Dolls: They find the freedom after Cammy/Killer Bee's sacrifice in the end of SFZ3. So, Doll agents in SSF4 are not possible.
- Sagat "was" beaten by Dan in SFZ2. And I sea "was" because Sagat left Dan to win the fight, since his wish of reveange blinded the jap/chinese guy too much for being focused in a real fight.
- Rose and Vega(M.Bison) are dead during SF4. Teir souls are connected, and when Gouki/Akuma executed the SGS on the dictator in the end of SF2...well, they both died. Till the moment, Vega's essence was "alive", since his soul was going from one body to other, ut SGS attacks the soul itself.
- After Vega's dead, Shadowlaw went into Bison's(balrog, boxer) hands, who ruined it.
- Because of this, Chun Li, Guile, Cammy, T.Hawk and etc doesn't have a real motivation to enter the tournament, since their nemesis has dead.
- etc etc stuff I forgot now.

Street fighter before ono was THE F***ING SHIT
 
They made a game with serious characters. If that's a Shiat for you, then play Rakuga Kids, you'll be more OK with it. OR, create your own game.

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became instint classic that Capcom kept remaking more times then we could take

That's why they re-did SF4 with SSF4 and SSF4:AE. Brilliant.


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- Devil Raptor B: Stop acting as if you were the LAW in SF. SF4 was a EPIC retcon to the SF story. People here has played SF since the SF2 or even from SF1. We actually know the story behind and etc. SFZ2 retcons SFZ1m, SF3:GA retcons SF3:NG, OF COURSE, but not at the same point as SF4.
the old gamers know for sure, I dunno about the newcomers here, so im not really trying to be the LAW in SF,  clearly your not understanding me

Street fighter before ono was THE F***ING SHIT
 
They made a game with serious characters. If that's a Shiat for you, then play Rakuga Kids, you'll be more OK with it. OR, create your own game.


dude , when I said its was the F***ing Shit , it was another way of saying it was damn awesome
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Mistakes that SF4 has:
- Dolls: They find the freedom after Cammy/Killer Bee's sacrifice in the end of SFZ3. So, Doll agents in SSF4 are not possible.
and the twelve dolls are gone in sf4, down to t hawk searching for juli that has gone missing since sfa3?
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- Sagat "was" beaten by Dan in SFZ2. And I sea "was" because Sagat left Dan to win the fight, since his wish of reveange blinded the jap/chinese guy too much for being focused in a real fight.
And in sfa3 he was out to get sagat to join his dojo, and in sf4 he was out to get some publicity to his dojo, it also explained why he wasnt in sf2, his phone had been cut off for lack of paying.

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- Rose and Vega(M.Bison) are dead during SF4. Teir souls are connected, and when Gouki/Akuma executed the SGS on the dictator in the end of SF2...well, they both died. Till the moment, Vega's essence was "alive", since his soul was going from one body to other, ut SGS attacks the soul itself.
Thats assuming shungokusatsu works that way, which was only on plot books, a martial arts move that "kills the soul" is a pretty iffy thing, specially considering how bison transfering his soul between bodies had been shown before. Even if bison soul had been "dragged to hell" that still dosnt say that rose soul was, since they have been divided for a while and its not like what happens to one happens to another.
If shungokusatsu killed the soul forever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTZ82NG63uM
why was bison in sf2?


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- After Vega's dead, Shadowlaw went into Bison's(balrog, boxer) hands, who ruined it.

Plot guide you read on the internet, translated from plot guides released in japan, not really something shown in game.


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- Because of this, Chun Li, Guile, Cammy, T.Hawk and etc doesn't have a real motivation to enter the tournament, since their nemesis has dead.
Any fighting game character wont have a "motivation" to show in a fighting game until you sketch up one. If "their story is done" was a thing, you would have a full cast of new characters every episode of a fighting game out.
From vampire hunter to vampire savior you would lose donovan ( become a devil story is done) , phobos ( was the boss, failed, story is done) , felicia ( is a superstar meow meow story is done ) , rikuo ( got his family back, story is done ) , hsienko ( ressurected in new bodies, story is done) , bishamon ( contained armor, story is done)  etc etc etc...
Fighting games have paper thin motivations.
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- Devil Raptor B: LOL. I misunderstood the "the Sh*t" thing, my apologizes.

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[Dolls]: in her SFZ3 ending, Cammy gives freedom to the dolls, "sacrificing" herself. If this ending its not canon, Vega's "dead" could be the trigger to de-activate the PsychoDrive, so it's a "yes-yes, we're free!" situation IMHO.

[Sagat/Dan]: You're totally right.

[Rose/Vega]: Dunno where I read it(MAYBE Vasili's guide, dunno), the SGS attacks the soul, and ONLY Gen was able to survive it because of an abbility(whatever) he has. Vega was not prepared to this during SF2(only canon fight they had), and given his and Rose's soul are linked(because of the good side etc), Vega's dead is 100% sure, not at all with Rose(since vega doesn't has a good side right now). So in SF2, Vega's soul hasn't had the chance to be "transfered" to another body, since it was in it.
SFZ3 ending is somehow a mixture of some of them, being the canon where he dies because of the explossions, but...it seems this to be parallel to his fight against Rose, transfering his soul into her, and her being saved by Guy(who felt the presence).

[Bison]: I read it somewhere, but not 100% sure. I'll check it again :).

[Not returning characters]: Well, Guile, T.Hawk, Cammy etc are not back in SF3. ONLY Chun, and because of her motivation to fight against Urien...who kidnapped that little girl.

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[Dolls]: in her SFZ3 ending, Cammy gives freedom to the dolls, "sacrificing" herself. If this ending its not canon, Vega's "dead" could be the trigger to de-activate the PsychoDrive, so it's a "yes-yes, we're free!" situation IMHO.
According to the Juri OAV, the Dolls were still working for Bison up to the SFIV era. So Cammy never got a chance to free them.

[Not returning characters]: Well, Guile, T.Hawk, Cammy etc are not back in SF3. ONLY Chun, and because of her motivation to fight against Urien...who kidnapped that little girl.
But there's really no reason that says they couldn't have returned; at the bare minimum they could just be there because they want to improve their skills or something. There is nothing storyline-wise that actually prevents them from coming back.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#48  April 22, 2012, 08:15:11 pm
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[Rose/Vega]: Dunno where I read it(MAYBE Vasili's guide, dunno), the SGS attacks the soul, and ONLY Gen was able to survive it because of an abbility(whatever) he has. Vega was not prepared to this during SF2(only canon fight they had), and given his and Rose's soul are linked(because of the good side etc), Vega's dead is 100% sure, not at all with Rose(since vega doesn't has a good side right now). So in SF2, Vega's soul hasn't had the chance to be "transfered" to another body, since it was in it.
Sorry, all of that is wrong. The SGS doesn't attack the soul (there's never been any canonical explanation), Vega's and Rose's souls aren't linked to the point that one dying means the other dies too (and there's never been solid info saying how they were linked beyond the two being split from the same soul), and nobody in canon said Vega died for sure in SF2, the soul transfer was not impossible (please keep in mind that the whole soul thing didn't exist in SF2 so you're wrong by default, and the Turbo X something on GBA did not close the door on that, as far as I remember). Or at most, in SF2 everyone probably expected him to be really dead (without any official canon info on it), but someone changed their mind and there's no contradiction anywhere.
Please point out the game scene, the manual, or the official statement that says otherwise if you disagree.
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Re: Street fighter before ono
#49  April 22, 2012, 10:10:21 pm
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According to the Juri OAV, the Dolls were still working for Bison up to the SFIV era. So Cammy never got a chance to free them.

What juri oav?

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nvm, googled it, it's an ono thing, after he retconned everything.

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afaik, thawk is completely unrelated to juri, they just used her sprite//character as a place holder for noembelu.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#50  April 22, 2012, 10:29:47 pm
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@Iced: According to SF2 (or at least the terrible Gameboy Advance port), Mike Bison took over Shadaloo after Vega got killed, and he indeed did drive it into the ground. The ending even shows him thrown out on the streets crying about how he lost the massive corporation he inherited.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm guessing the reason most people don't know that is because in the English SF2 games, when Mike Bison won, his ending simply stated that he proved the American dream was still alive... While the graphics on the bottom show the Shadaloo army assembling.
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Re: Street fighter before ono
#51  April 22, 2012, 10:35:13 pm
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afaik, thawk is completely unrelated to juri, they just used her sprite//character as a place holder for noembelu.
As soon as they used Juli, T Hawk started to be related to her. The current explanation is, IIRC, that Juli is T. Hawk's girlfriend and Noembelu is a member of his tribe.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#52  April 22, 2012, 10:38:51 pm
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current explanation ~ street fighter before ono
Re: Street fighter before ono
#53  April 23, 2012, 01:07:01 am
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You act like Ono is in charge of everything related to Street Fighter.  He only directs the games, which he has done a somewhat questionable job on, he doesn't do anything to the plot or character designs.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#54  April 23, 2012, 01:20:41 am
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But he's not the director. He's the producer.
He's in charge of overseeing all the development of the games the outsourced companies are handling.
He greenlights dev ideas, which get greenlit by his superiors.
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Re: Street fighter before ono
#55  April 23, 2012, 01:30:35 am
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You act like Ono is in charge of everything related to Street Fighter.  He only directs the games, which he has done a somewhat questionable job on, he doesn't do anything to the plot or character designs.

which reminds me... who was the composer? Hideyuki Fukasawa?

Ever since he hopped on board in SF4 there was nothing but very bland remixes of the characters, sure capcom has done this since the beginning, but now it's more noticeable, i just wished he could pop out a few new songs from scratch from time to time (that isn't the stages' of course).
Re: Street fighter before ono
#56  April 23, 2012, 02:14:57 am
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I wish he went back to his Chaos Legion quality.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#57  April 23, 2012, 02:31:29 am
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Yeah me too actually.
Chaos Legion sounded like an actual fucking orchestra.
What he does now is like babby's first song in ableton live mostly because he lazily recycles a rather weak set of instruments.
Though his non-game musical work these days is some pretty raw electronica, he should try something else for fighters.
Re: Street fighter before ono
#58  April 23, 2012, 02:44:02 am
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Re: Street fighter before ono
#59  April 23, 2012, 02:52:21 am
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But Fukusawa's ups weren't consistent. Honestly I didn't have a problem with his stuff until like SSFIV when you could notice the templates he had done.
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