Hello everyone.Well, it finally happened. I made a Persona character. As per usual, he uses a custom gameplay style that is heavily based on his Cross Tag moveset while having a couple of things from Ultimax.Spoiler: More Screenshots (click to see content)Get Yu here:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H6XfZu_II2qASws-PlNytlXGqkdd2t79/view?usp=sharingHave fun.
Nice, gonna test him soon. Also voted for Yumi but Blitztank or Akatsuki will probably win this round anyway.
And fixed. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote- Fixed an error where two Izanagis could be on the stage at the same time under certain conditions
A suggestion.Why not using sound effects from BBTAG not only on Yu but your creations as well?These sounds from Super Smash Bros. for 64 seems too off.
Glad you managed to fix the bug when Izanagi appears twice in Yu's attacks. I couldn't find other ways to make him appear twice, so I never knew there's another one that I didn't know.Now that Yumi and Blitztank are in the poll thanks to 2.0, I know who am I going to vote for.Mysticus said, December 08, 2019, 10:46:47 pmA suggestion.Why not using sound effects from BBTAG not only on Yu but your creations as well?These sounds from Super Smash Bros. for 64 seems too off.Because it's his style and his characters was never aesthetically source accurate to BBTag since Yang. Always has, always will. You wouldn't question a PotS style character not being aesthetically source accurate to CvS2, would you?
Good_Wall533 said, December 08, 2019, 05:36:21 pmAlso voted for Yumi but Blitztank or Akatsuki will probably win this round anyway.lol, and now she's dominating the poll!
Here's a extra paletteGarry and Red Eyes from Ib GameAdachi and Magatsu IzanagiShizuru and KumaSatoshi Uujima and Irisu Kyouko from Irisu Syndrome!
If you look at the poll, there's clearly something rigged with Yumi and Blitztank, I somehow doubt all those votes are legit. Maybe you should disqualify them both.
GF202020 said, December 09, 2019, 08:13:49 pmIf you look at the poll, there's clearly something rigged with Yumi and Blitztank.I think maybe because Yumi and Blitztank are becoming popular with people (especially Blitztank, because....come on, it's a tank with a fucking skull on it, what more needs to be said?)
They're both at 150+ votes now, which we're lucky if polls in the past have that many votes IN TOTAL ACROSS ALL OPTIONS.
Yeah, there's clearly something wrong going on in the poll. Yumi was winning by a landslide with more than 70 votes and Blitztank only had more than 20 votes this very morning (in my timezone anyway), now BOTH of them have more than 160 votes? Something's very fishy here.
You guys may be right, but I’d rather not disqualify them, as it wouldn’t be fair to the people who legitimately voted for them.I think the best solution may be to start a new poll with the CAPTCHA turned on. What do you guys think of that?
Starting over with a CAPTCHA poll would be fair.Though maybe as a punishment leave those 2 out of it just for this poll, then bring them back next one.
I think starting over without those two is unnecessary. I think it's best to try again with CAPTCHA with those two on the poll again but if a similar problem persists, then remove the two as punishment since I agree that it's not fair for those who legitimately voted for them.
I've always had a suspicion that it may have been literally one person resetting their IP or abusing VPN to increase their vote count absurdly. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen either. Maybe having people post their votes in the thread is a more secure method since they're easier to judge. In any case, I voted for Nanase.
Nep Heart said, December 09, 2019, 09:53:37 pmI've always had a suspicion that it may have been literally one person resetting their IP or abusing VPN to increase their vote count absurdly. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen either. Maybe having people post their votes in the thread is a more secure method since they're easier to judge. In any case, I voted for Nanase.I also agree with voting within the thread.
GF202020 said, December 09, 2019, 09:56:49 pmNep Heart said, December 09, 2019, 09:53:37 pmI've always had a suspicion that it may have been literally one person resetting their IP or abusing VPN to increase their vote count absurdly. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen either. Maybe having people post their votes in the thread is a more secure method since they're easier to judge. In any case, I voted for Nanase.I also agree with voting within the thread.I second that too.
Agreed with that too. Anyway, i voted for Yumi but i also wanted to see what OHMSBY can do with Hilda.
As much as I agree that the poll has been rigged, Yumi was winning with Blitztank going second before that happened, so I think it would be even more unfair to take both out of the poll. The best thing to do right now is close the poll and consider Yumi the winner, because she was the one winning before the problem showed itself, and in the next poll, add a captcha or just use the forum's own poll feature.
Macaulyn97 said, December 09, 2019, 11:34:15 pmAs much as I agree that the poll has been rigged, Yumi was winning with Blitztank going second before that happened, so I think it would be even more unfair to take both out of the poll. The best thing to do right now is close the poll and consider Yumi the winner, because she was the one winning before the problem showed itself, and in the next poll, add a captcha or just use the forum's own poll feature.Giving Yumi the auto-win isn't fair because who's to say her 70+ lead to start with was legit? We should just start over.
GF202020 said, December 09, 2019, 11:58:35 pmMacaulyn97 said, December 09, 2019, 11:34:15 pmAs much as I agree that the poll has been rigged, Yumi was winning with Blitztank going second before that happened, so I think it would be even more unfair to take both out of the poll. The best thing to do right now is close the poll and consider Yumi the winner, because she was the one winning before the problem showed itself, and in the next poll, add a captcha or just use the forum's own poll feature.Giving Yumi the auto-win isn't fair because who's to say her 70+ lead to start with was legit? We should just start over.When I first checked, she wasn't so far in the lead, but she was still leading by a good ammount. I know its not fair, but I'd rather spare the guilty along with the innocent, she had a legit lead before, and the people who voted for her without cheating shouldn't be punished because of others' lack of honesty. We can cover this mistake in the next poll.
Macaulyn97 said, December 10, 2019, 12:02:52 amGF202020 said, December 09, 2019, 11:58:35 pmMacaulyn97 said, December 09, 2019, 11:34:15 pmAs much as I agree that the poll has been rigged, Yumi was winning with Blitztank going second before that happened, so I think it would be even more unfair to take both out of the poll. The best thing to do right now is close the poll and consider Yumi the winner, because she was the one winning before the problem showed itself, and in the next poll, add a captcha or just use the forum's own poll feature.Giving Yumi the auto-win isn't fair because who's to say her 70+ lead to start with was legit? We should just start over.When I first checked, she wasn't so far in the lead, but she was still leading by a good ammount. I know its not fair, but I'd rather spare the guilty along with the innocent, she had a legit lead before, and the people who voted for her without cheating shouldn't be punished because of others' lack of honesty. We can cover this mistake in the next poll.If her win was legit, you have nothing to fear of a redo. We shouldn't just give her a auto-win.
So I like the idea of using the poll option for the thread now that its something that I can actually do. The only problem with it is that it only allows for 5 options. Should I just put the top 5 in there and rotate through different sets of the current poll characters for each release thread?
OHMSBY said, December 10, 2019, 01:23:29 amSo I like the idea of using the poll option for the thread now that its something that I can actually do. The only problem with it is that it only allows for 5 options. Should I just put the top 5 in there and rotate through different sets of the current poll characters for each release thread?That's a good idea
Alright then, its settled. From now on, I'll be using the Poll option for the thread. The current Poll characters are now split into sets that will rotate each release thread, starting with the previous top 5. So start voting again.
Noside said, December 10, 2019, 01:59:09 amNo Adler in the poll??Adler's not revealed for BBTag yet (or in this case, he'll probably never will..ah well), anyway voted for Blitztank cause why not
I guess whoever voted Yumi and Blitztank wanted them so badly as you're willing to make them already once their resources are ripped. I'm actually one of the poeple voted for Yumi as she'll have a conversion only a couple of weeks after 2.0 is out. But since your doing the poll option, I changed my mind for Akatsuki instead since I like to see him once he appeared in 2.0 and you'll bring him back.Also, I found two minor things on Yu's update after testing a little longer (Which I never spotted previously):-The normal shockwave's position when the opponent hits the ground during the air throw got slightly misaligned (The strong one is now the consistent position, but the normal one where they touch the ground is not).-Yu can't summon Izanagi again right once he disappears (I noticed his hitbox is still there after his disappearance, which prevents him from appearing again. It's good thing you fixed the Izanagi duplicates, but this causes his cool down summon to be too long and makes Yu open for attacks).-Yu doesn't die if the opponent hits Izanagi when he has barley any health left (Probably this may be intentional and I haven't tried this in the source game, but thought I ask for confirmation). (Confirmed by Darkflare.)
SolidZone 26 said, December 10, 2019, 02:27:15 am-Yu doesn't die if the opponent hits Izanagi when he has barley any health left (Probably this may be intentional and I haven't tried this in the source game, but thought I ask for confirmation).It was like that in BBTAG. You can't KO a P4A character through hitting their Persona.
Darkflare said, December 10, 2019, 02:49:07 amIt was like that in BBTAG. You can't KO a P4A character through hitting their Persona.Gotcha, that's something I wasn't able to do using two controllers by myself or I'm not doing it fast enough as the Persona disappears too quickly when I start using the other controller. With that out of the way, that just makes two minor things.
Yu has gotten another quick update according to Solidzone's feedback. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote- Fixed an error where Izanagi wouldn't appear under certain conditions- Fixed a misaligned shockwave after the opponent hit the ground from the air throwSolidZone 26 said, December 10, 2019, 03:05:43 amthat's something I wasn't able to do using two controllers by myself or I'm not doing it fast enough as the Persona disappears too quickly when I start using the other controller.In Cross Tag's training mode, there is a record function that lets you take control of player 2 to record some inputs, then play those inputs back with a press of a button. Its way easier than switching back and forth between two controllers.ICPJuggalo said, December 10, 2019, 02:48:30 amUmm... where do I go to vote? The Poll isn't appearing for me.If the option to vote is not showing up above this thread, then you might need to make a certain amount of posts on this forum (10 I think) in order to participate. Looking at your profile, you have made 8, so that's 2 more to go.
OHMSBY said, December 10, 2019, 04:16:20 amYu has gotten another quick update according to Solidzone's feedback. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote- Fixed an error where Izanagi wouldn't appear under certain conditions- Fixed a misaligned shockwave after the opponent hit the ground from the air throwSolidZone 26 said, December 10, 2019, 03:05:43 amthat's something I wasn't able to do using two controllers by myself or I'm not doing it fast enough as the Persona disappears too quickly when I start using the other controller.In Cross Tag's training mode, there is a record function that lets you take control of player 2 to record some inputs, then play those inputs back with a press of a button. Its way easier than switching back and forth between two controllers.ICPJuggalo said, December 10, 2019, 02:48:30 amUmm... where do I go to vote? The Poll isn't appearing for me.If the option to vote is not showing up above this thread, then you might need to make a certain amount of posts on this forum (10 I think) in order to participate. Looking at your profile, you have made 8, so that's 2 more to go.That's a weird rule, but who am I to argue with it?
There is a very noticeable error in your update, if Izanagi fails the 2B, it reappears making the same movement, without having touched the 2B button again, apart from reappearing in a position more to the left than in its position correspondent
previously I voted for three characters (jin, akatsuki and tank) now I can only choose one, tough choice but to go with tank
P-L-A-T-A-M-O-N said, December 10, 2019, 04:09:35 pmThere is a very noticeable error in your update, if Izanagi fails the 2B, it reappears making the same movement, without having touched the 2B button again, apart from reappearing in a position more to the left than in its position correspondentFixed. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote-Fixed an error where Izanagi would apear again if 5B whiffed
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2462830Welp, proof that he was the one rigging the polls, AND tried to rig this one too.Yumi should be disqualified.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 12:35:54 pmI'll admit, I did it but believe me I didn't vote for her.I don't believe that because why the alternate accounts then just to vote on THIS one?You were caught and should be punished.Else, if we just let Yumi win, it will just invite more of this behavior.
Let me explain myself here before it gets too crazy: I was the one who messed up the first poll by constantly voting for Blitztank. (I don't know who did all the of the other votes.) And for this poll I decided to vote for Akatsuki. One was an actual vote and the other was because I wanted to know if you really could do a couple of votes without anyone knowing, Which obviously didn't happen. I'm sorry for not being fair to all of the ones who voted fairly.
And btw, I couldn't even vote 3 times if I wanted to because the admins, caught on to what I was doing.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 12:54:45 pmLet me explain myself here before it gets too crazy: I was the one who messed up the first poll by constantly voting for Blitztank. (I don't know who did all the of the other votes.) And for this poll I decided to vote for Akatsuki. One was an actual vote and the other was because I wanted to know if you really could do a couple of votes without anyone knowing, Which obviously didn't happen. I'm sorry for not being fair to all of the ones who voted fairly.I still somehow doubt you were the Bliztank voter because you originally wanted to give Yumi the auto win, and were adamant for that.Continuing to lie only digs bigger holes for yourself, you know.
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:05:28 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 12:54:45 pmLet me explain myself here before it gets too crazy: I was the one who messed up the first poll by constantly voting for Blitztank. (I don't know who did all the of the other votes.) And for this poll I decided to vote for Akatsuki. One was an actual vote and the other was because I wanted to know if you really could do a couple of votes without anyone knowing, Which obviously didn't happen. I'm sorry for not being fair to all of the ones who voted fairly.I still somehow doubt you were the Bliztank voter because you originally wanted to give Yumi the auto win, and were adamant for that.Continuing to lie only digs bigger holes for yourself, you know.I am not lying I really did vote for Bliztank all those times. (Mostly cause I don't like Yumi and I didn't want her to win.) I used an IP hider to vote for Blitztank all those times, And it still didn't do any good. Even with the hundreds of IP's I used.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:14:26 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:05:28 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 12:54:45 pmLet me explain myself here before it gets too crazy: I was the one who messed up the first poll by constantly voting for Blitztank. (I don't know who did all the of the other votes.) And for this poll I decided to vote for Akatsuki. One was an actual vote and the other was because I wanted to know if you really could do a couple of votes without anyone knowing, Which obviously didn't happen. I'm sorry for not being fair to all of the ones who voted fairly.I still somehow doubt you were the Blitztank voter because you originally wanted to give Yumi the auto win, and were adamant for that.Continuing to lie only digs bigger holes for yourself, you know.I am not lying I really did vote for Bliztank all those times. (Mostly cause I don't like Yumi and I didn't want her to win.) I used an IP hider to vote for Blitztank all those times, And it still didn't do any good. Even with the hundreds of IP's I used.Your story doesn't add up. if you were the Blitztank voter, why is Yumi in the lead again now? Why did you try to cheat then for this poll with Blitztank doing so badly and Yumi getting the lead over night? And doing your damnest to draw fire away from Yumi...unless you want her to win regardless of all your bullshit.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:14:26 pmEven with the hundreds of IP's I used. Oh my fuckin' God...
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:18:42 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:14:26 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:05:28 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 12:54:45 pmLet me explain myself here before it gets too crazy: I was the one who messed up the first poll by constantly voting for Blitztank. (I don't know who did all the of the other votes.) And for this poll I decided to vote for Akatsuki. One was an actual vote and the other was because I wanted to know if you really could do a couple of votes without anyone knowing, Which obviously didn't happen. I'm sorry for not being fair to all of the ones who voted fairly.I still somehow doubt you were the Blitztank voter because you originally wanted to give Yumi the auto win, and were adamant for that.Continuing to lie only digs bigger holes for yourself, you know.I am not lying I really did vote for Bliztank all those times. (Mostly cause I don't like Yumi and I didn't want her to win.) I used an IP hider to vote for Blitztank all those times, And it still didn't do any good. Even with the hundreds of IP's I used.Your story doesn't add up. if you were the Blitztank voter, why is Yumi in the lead again now? Why did you try to cheat then for this poll with Blitztank doing so badly and Yumi getting the lead over night? And doing your damnest to draw fire away from Yumi...unless you want her to win regardless of all your bullshit.I'm not responsible for Yumi being in the lead. She was like that since yesterday afternoon. Which was before I started voting.
Orochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.
【MFG】gui0007 said, December 11, 2019, 01:27:09 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:14:26 pmEven with the hundreds of IP's I used. Oh my fuckin' God... That admin did state that "You were never going to accomplish your goal to skew that poll." And he was right.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pmOrochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.You're still lying though, I know you're not the Blitztank voter.
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:37:56 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pmOrochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.You're still lying though, I know you're not the Blitztank voter.I am, and you know what? It wasn't even worth it.
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:46:47 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:37:56 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pmOrochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.You're still lying though, I know you're not the Blitztank voter.I am, and you know what? It wasn't even worth it.No you're not. You know why?I am the Blitztank voter.I didn't do it to get him to win though, I did it because I smelled bullshit of Yumi's 70+ lead and to prove strawpoll is bullshit when it comes to actual votes. You know how easy it is to spoof Strawpoll? All you need to do is turn on Airplane mode and then off. Boom, another vote. I was hoping my hypothesis was right and it was when the Yumi votes kept on getting ahead. The real goal of this was to move this to a more secure voting method, and I did nothing to this poll, knowing it was secure and you were caught again trying to boost Yumi.And now you're lying that you were the Blitztank voter in order to still have Yumi win. I will take any punishment deem fitting, but at least you were caught.So in conclusion, congratulations, you just played yourself.
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 02:14:43 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:46:47 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:37:56 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pmOrochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.You're still lying though, I know you're not the Blitztank voter.I am, and you know what? It wasn't even worth it.No you're not. You know why?I am the Blitztank voter.I didn't do it to get him to win though, I did it because I smelled bullshit of Yumi's 70+ lead and to prove strawpoll is bullshit when it comes to actual votes. You know how easy it is to spoof Strawpoll? All you need to do is turn on Airplane mode and then off. Boom, another vote. I was hoping my hypothesis was right and it was when the Yumi votes kept on getting ahead. The real goal of this was to move this to a more secure voting method, and I did nothing to this poll, knowing it was secure and you were caught again trying to boost Yumi.And now you're lying that you were the Blitztank voter in order to still have Yumi win. I will take any punishment deem fitting, but at least you were caught.So in conclusion, congratulations, you just played yourself. Just don't count my 2 votes, everyone who voted fairly shouldn't be punished for my actions. I was only thinking about what I wanted and I should be the only one punished not anyone else.
You still continously lied though, and what's to say you're not lying again right now and you have more than 2 in Yumi? Letting Yumi win now would be letting you get away with everything.
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 03:37:16 pmYou still continously lied though, and what's to say you're not lying again right now and you have more than 2 in Yumi? Letting Yumi win now would be letting you get away with everything. You do know that there's people who legitimately voted for Yumi, right?
ICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 02:58:50 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 02:14:43 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:46:47 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 01:37:56 pmICPJuggalo said, December 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pmOrochi Gill said, December 11, 2019, 01:20:48 pmSo you admit to intentionally trying to skew a poll.Really man? You blew your cover that easily?Well, the admins and GF202020 already publicly stated what I did, so I might as well tell the truth.You're still lying though, I know you're not the Blitztank voter.I am, and you know what? It wasn't even worth it.No you're not. You know why?I am the Blitztank voter.I didn't do it to get him to win though, I did it because I smelled bullshit of Yumi's 70+ lead and to prove strawpoll is bullshit when it comes to actual votes. You know how easy it is to spoof Strawpoll? All you need to do is turn on Airplane mode and then off. Boom, another vote. I was hoping my hypothesis was right and it was when the Yumi votes kept on getting ahead. The real goal of this was to move this to a more secure voting method, and I did nothing to this poll, knowing it was secure and you were caught again trying to boost Yumi.And now you're lying that you were the Blitztank voter in order to still have Yumi win. I will take any punishment deem fitting, but at least you were caught.So in conclusion, congratulations, you just played yourself. Just don't count my 2 votes, everyone who voted fairly shouldn't be punished for my actions. I was only thinking about what I wanted and I should be the only one punished not anyone else.Dudes! Get a damn life!You're abusing your comments for no reason!
Good_Wall533 said, December 11, 2019, 03:47:32 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 03:37:16 pmYou still continously lied though, and what's to say you're not lying again right now and you have more than 2 in Yumi? Letting Yumi win now would be letting you get away with everything. You do know that there's people who legitimately voted for Yumi, right?I only made 2 alts and used only one to vote cause the admins caught me. And I wasn't going to vote more than that cause making a new MFG account and waiting 10 minutes after posting 3 times. Was very time consuming. If I made more than 2 accounts I would've gone crazy.
Good_Wall533 said, December 11, 2019, 03:47:32 pmGF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 03:37:16 pmYou still continously lied though, and what's to say you're not lying again right now and you have more than 2 in Yumi? Letting Yumi win now would be letting you get away with everything. You do know that there's people who legitimately voted for Yumi, right?This is what happens when a rotten apple tries to game the system.If he's willing to rig voting for the next Mugen character, I have to wonder what other things in life he's willing to rig.
All this hilarious stuff made me realize I voted too quickly and missed Blitzy. Whoops.also dude, mugen
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 12:12:21 pmhttp://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2462830Welp, proof that he was the one rigging the polls, AND tried to rig this one too.Yumi should be disqualified. You don't get to decide that, and if the guy actually rigged the votes, he only got two votes more to Yumi.GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 02:14:43 pmI am the Blitztank voter.I didn't do it to get him to win though, I did it because I smelled bullshit of Yumi's 70+ lead and to prove strawpoll is bullshit when it comes to actual votes. You know how easy it is to spoof Strawpoll? All you need to do is turn on Airplane mode and then off. Boom, another vote. I was hoping my hypothesis was right and it was when the Yumi votes kept on getting ahead. The real goal of this was to move this to a more secure voting method, and I did nothing to this poll, knowing it was secure and you were caught again trying to boost Yumi.And now you're lying that you were the Blitztank voter in order to still have Yumi win. I will take any punishment deem fitting, but at least you were caught.So in conclusion, congratulations, you just played yourself. How does that help in any way, then? I voted for Blitztank, ONCE, and I wouldn't accept the character I voted for to be disqualified because of what YOU did. Because at the end of the day, your motives aren't relevant, you also rigged the voting. Are you actually naive enough to think this is the first time a poll has been rigged? The only reason people noticed it now was because the poll went out of control with two characters leading by hundreds, because the ones rigging it at this time were too dumb to be discreet with their rigging.Darkflare said, December 11, 2019, 04:56:44 pmThis is what happens when a rotten apple tries to game the system.If he's willing to rig voting for the next Mugen character, I have to wonder what other things in life he's willing to rig.Like I said before, I don't think this was the first time a poll was rigged, I only think this is the first time rigging a poll got out of hand. Regardless, I still think its all stupid, because in the end, its just a MUGEN char, like what the hell, before Blitztank was added to OHMSBY's polls, I voted for fucking Carmine, and he was nowhere near first place in any of them, people should just learn to accept when they're going to lose.OHMSBY, The choice is yours, but I must tell you, if people go as far as rigging forum polls, which is harder to do, because an account is needed, I think its safe to say there is nothing preventing people from rigging anything. The best that can be done is either make the next one a StrawPoll with a CAPTCHA and hope for the best (since StrawPoll is the only one that has enough options to cover your character choices) or just pick the character you want and make it, I know you wanted it to be a community decision, but we can never have a 100% honest voting.
Wow, I guess you don't even need VPN to fool Straw Poll. I feel Nanase will end up as Kuroko 2.0, but I'm sticking with her all the way regardless.
EasyPoll is much better than StrawPoll, the airplane mode trick doesn't work there, but these thread polls are still the most secure.
So... what's going on here is that ICPJuggalo was trying get Yumi to win OSHMBY's poll by using alternate accounts & IP/ISPs both here & on Strawpoll, so GameFreak202020 decided to do something similar in order to prove a point on how easy it is to rig Strawpoll? Do i have that correct?
DauntlessMonk7 said, December 11, 2019, 07:28:20 pmSo... what's going on here is that ICPJuggalo was trying get Yumi to win OSHMBY's poll by using alternate accounts & IP/ISPs both here & on Strawpoll, so GameFreak202020 decided to do something similar in order to prove a point on how easy it is to rig Strawpoll? Do i have that correct?That's correct
GF202020 said, December 11, 2019, 07:30:22 pmThat's correctAh, all right then. I wonder what OSHMBY's going to do involving the poll?
Alright, I have come to a decision.I will let this poll run its course. Yumi is not disqualified, but she is getting a penalty of -3, which means that Akatsuki is currently in the lead by 2 votes.After this, no more polls, at least for a while. I’ll just following my own release schedule.
OHMSBY said, December 11, 2019, 08:21:27 pmAfter this, no more polls, at least for a while. I’ll just following my own release schedule.OHMSBY, better this way, so you don't have to wait to start work on the next character after a release.
I agree with this compromise, it's not only a benefit to the people awaiting for these characters, but it'll make it easier to take a more relaxed pace after the difficulty of producing characters at a quick rate from prior.
I wonder about one thing: is it really fair to punish Yumi's votes? I mean, Akatsuki is popular enough to have people doing the same to him...
Macaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 01:44:41 amI wonder about one thing: is it really fair to punish Yumi's votes? I mean, Akatsuki is popular enough to have people doing the same to him...But Yumi was the one who had he cheater.If someone made alts to boost Akatsuki, the admins/mods would have catched them as well.I still don't think letting Yumi win after all this is fair, but meh, it's his decision.
Jesus christ, what a shit show of a thread.OHMSBY handled it the best way he probably could. Revoking voting privileges is for the best if people are going to manipulate votes like this.
Thanks for your understanding everyone.Even with the -3 penalty, Yumi is in the lead by 2 votes, So that makes her my next project. I'll decide who comes afterwards later.
Well, even with all your cheating exposed, 2 polls tried to be rigged, and you even fucking lied about it, you still win in the end.yay...congratulations on avoiding fucking karma for your actions.
Just let it be guys, goddammit! Yumi wins the poll and that's it! OHMSBY already decided what he'll do about the polls.Can we just back on topic that is about Yu please?
I really don't care who wins, I'm just content with legitimate results even if that means my picks will usually come in late (Es was an exception). Anyway, hearing that Yumi is a rekka character in BBTag, that piques my interest in trying to explore her potential even if I'm neutral towards SK.
my only question is are you still going to do neo even though giang is? they will likely be different styles.
GF202020 said, December 12, 2019, 04:26:53 amWell, even with all your cheating exposed, 2 polls tried to be rigged, and you even fucking lied about it, you still win in the end. yay...congratulations on avoiding fucking karma for your actions. http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/warnings-v2-112183.msg2462880.html#newICP got called out by the admins & threatened with a permanent ban. That’s NOT avoiding karma. Well, not from what i can tell, anyway. Plus, other people legitimately voted for Yumi as well. That, & OSHMBY was planning on eventually making her anyway, despite the poll results.Believe me, I 100 % understand your frustration. I’m just saying that i doubt ICP got away with anything, especially since he got exposed for everybody to see.Anyways, back to Yu Narukami: I know this isn’t how he worked in Cross Tag, but is it possible for their to be like an “EX Mode” of sorts where j.C is his j.2A from Ultimax, & Raging Lion is a special (with stuff like a cancelable feint & an EX version) as it was in P4A? It’s not really needed, but it sounds fun to me when i think about it.
GF202020 said, December 12, 2019, 04:26:53 amWell, even with all your cheating exposed, 2 polls tried to be rigged, and you even fucking lied about it, you still win in the end.yay...congratulations on avoiding fucking karma for your actions. You're just being childish at this point, before Blitztank was added to the polls I've been voting for Carmine, a character that was never near first place, and you don't see me whining because it wasn't picked. Many people voted for Yumi without cheating, they have the right to get the character, there is no reason to punish them along with the culprits.
Laharl said, December 12, 2019, 05:37:10 ammy only question is are you still going to do neo even though giang is? they will likely be different styles.I thought adding 3 more characters to the poll along with bringing back Akatsuki and Hilda would be a little much and Yumi and Blitztank piqued my interest more so than Neo did. Now that I'm no longer restricting myself to the poll, maybe.DauntlessMonk7 said, December 12, 2019, 06:45:32 amI know this isn’t how he worked in Cross Tag, but is it possible for their to be like an “EX Mode” of sorts where j.C is his j.2A from Ultimax, & Raging Lion is a special (with stuff like a cancelable feint & an EX version) as it was in P4A? It’s not really needed, but it sounds fun to me when i think about it.I actually had the idea of making a Shadow Yu as well that would mostly be based on his Cross Tag moveset before the 2.0 update along with some other things. I'll keep your suggestion in mind if I ever decide to go through with that idea.
Macaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 06:57:50 amYou're just being childish at this point, before Blitztank was added to the polls I've been voting for Carmine, a character that was never near first place, and you don't see me whining because it wasn't picked. Many people voted for Yumi without cheating, they have the right to get the character, there is no reason to punish them along with the culprits.So? Doesn't change the fact he still rigged it. Because of his rigging, this now causes somewhat of an inconvenience to pre-release testers that they won't know what they will be testing (Look at the readme of his characters and you'll know who they are). So I think ICP still deserves punishment regardless of what you think.OHMSBY said, December 12, 2019, 07:10:18 amI thought adding 3 more characters to the poll along with bringing back Akatsuki and Hilda would be a little much and Yumi and Blitztank piqued my interest more so than Neo did. Now that I'm no longer restricting myself to the poll, maybe.Yeah, a character who's been in the poll for a while would always get overshadowed by the new character (Like the incident with Gordeau getting 2nd and always beaten by another character who's recently added in the poll). But this time, I find that an exception because of the 2.0 update. If you wait until everyone in the current poll was finished, then it would have took too long and you won't get to them until like a year later. Since you're removing that option, I hope you let the testers know what you're working on beforehand. It's helps them as much as it helps you.
SolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 07:24:58 amMacaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 06:57:50 amYou're just being childish at this point, before Blitztank was added to the polls I've been voting for Carmine, a character that was never near first place, and you don't see me whining because it wasn't picked. Many people voted for Yumi without cheating, they have the right to get the character, there is no reason to punish them along with the culprits.So? Doesn't change the fact he still rigged it. Because of his rigging, this now causes somewhat of an inconvenience to pre-release testers that they won't know what they will be testing (Look at the readme of his characters and you'll know who they are). So I think ICP still deserves punishment regardless of what you think..That has nothing to do with what I said.
Macaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 11:44:39 amThat has nothing to do with what I said.It has everything to do with what you said. No reason to punish them along with the culprit? Who knows if they also staged the rigging or are friends with him. This causes inconveniences for everyone, not just pre-release testers. What more do you not understand?OHMSBY said, December 12, 2019, 07:10:18 amI actually had the idea of making a Shadow Yu as well that would mostly be based on his Cross Tag moveset before the 2.0 update along with some other things. I'll keep your suggestion in mind if I ever decide to go through with that idea.You know, that just reminded me of something. If any character you made already does comes to BBTag later on (Terumi, Wagner or Kokonoe for example), why don't you turn them into shadow versions (I did remember you saying you wanted to make them EX versions if that happened)? I remembered in P4AU, shadow versions of the Persona characters like Shadow Yu use the original P4A movesets. So you can integrate the old hypothetical movesets in the shadow versions and based the new remakes on BBTag. That will give a reason to still keep both versions when you get around them. Thought I add a suggestion as well.
SolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 07:24:58 amSince you're removing that option, I hope you let the testers know what you're working on beforehand. It's helps them as much as it helps you.Of course. I'll probably announce who's next in each release thread. Either way, I'll be sure to keep you guys in the loop.SolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 12:37:53 pmYou know, that just reminded me of something. If any character you made already does comes to BBTag later on (Terumi, Wagner or Kokonoe for example), why don't you turn them into shadow versions (I did remember you saying you wanted to make them EX versions if that happened)? I remembered in P4AU, shadow versions of the Persona characters like Shadow Yu use the original P4A movesets. So you can integrate the old hypothetical movesets in the shadow versions and based the new remakes on BBTag. That will give a reason to still keep both versions when you get around them. Thought I add a suggestion as well.That's not a bad idea. Although in Ultimax, the shadow characters had different system mechanics from the normal versions of the characters, so it was almost like selecting a different groove in CVS2. I'm wondering if the same should hold true here or if the shadow characters should keep the same system mechanics as the rest of my characters.
SolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 12:37:53 pmMacaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 11:44:39 amThat has nothing to do with what I said.It has everything to do with what you said. No reason to punish them along with the culprit? Who knows if they also staged the rigging or are friends with him. This causes inconveniences for everyone, not just pre-release testers. What more do you not understand?Who knows? You certainly don't, and you have no right to accuse anyone else. You're really trying to bring up a conspiracy theory about this and its absolutely ridiculous, even if the one guy that voted three times had asked other people to vote as well, so long as they vote only once, they have the right to do so, its their choice, and, again, you cannot say which criteria they used because that is on them, not you. Stop being histerical over losing a poll.
SolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 12:37:53 pmI remembered in P4AU, shadow versions of the Persona characters like Shadow Yu use the original P4A movesets..Only the auto combo, and that's just for the returning cast. The real draw was Shadow Frenzy and being able to use Awakening supers at any time.
Macaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 02:43:33 pmSolidZone 26 said, December 12, 2019, 12:37:53 pmMacaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 11:44:39 amThat has nothing to do with what I said.It has everything to do with what you said. No reason to punish them along with the culprit? Who knows if they also staged the rigging or are friends with him. This causes inconveniences for everyone, not just pre-release testers. What more do you not understand?Who knows? You certainly don't, and you have no right to accuse anyone else. You're really trying to bring up a conspiracy theory about this and its absolutely ridiculous, even if the one guy that voted three times had asked other people to vote as well, so long as they vote only once, they have the right to do so, its their choice, and, again, you cannot say which criteria they used because that is on them, not you. Stop being histerical over losing a poll.Can we just go back ontopic? Jesus Christ, the poll is already over...
Really good char! You make a great work with your first Persona character. Waiting the others eagerly!
Take that Yu VA JPN https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-1RP-r38sTu8l5wYw2T0YwwbLg1XtKD5/view?usp=drivesdk
OHMSBY said, December 12, 2019, 02:38:53 pmOf course. I'll probably announce who's next in each release thread. Either way, I'll be sure to keep you guys in the loop.That's not a bad idea. Although in Ultimax, the shadow characters had different system mechanics from the normal versions of the characters, so it was almost like selecting a different groove in CVS2. I'm wondering if the same should hold true here or if the shadow characters should keep the same system mechanics as the rest of my characters.Cool, thanks!All you have to do is change the color of their eyes on the palettes, give them a shadow glow and you're done. Distorting the current voice clips of the characters is entirely optional and not required (I rather keep them as is since they're based on their own games). Unlike your original idea being EX, this makes them more unique and doesn't feel like a clone to your planned revamped ones closer to BBTag since their movesets in the original source game aren't the same. I find it cool that Ultimax did that instead of being just an aesthetic thing. But only do that to your existing characters that aren't in BBTag yet. If Nanase happens to gets finished after she gets officially announced in BBTag, you can try that on her first. Luckily, it's been over a year since BBTag is out and that hasn't happen yet surprisingly.Macaulyn97 said, December 12, 2019, 02:43:33 pmWho knows? You certainly don't, and you have no right to accuse anyone else. You're really trying to bring up a conspiracy theory about this and its absolutely ridiculous, even if the one guy that voted three times had asked other people to vote as well, so long as they vote only once, they have the right to do so, its their choice, and, again, you cannot say which criteria they used because that is on them, not you. Stop being histerical over losing a poll.Only a mod here would technically know that, but I wouldn't take any chances. Does it look like I care if I lose the poll? You have no idea who you're speaking to. The 4 people gets to test his characters for bugs and feedback beforehand, so it doesn't matter whoever wins to them. Knowing what the characters are is the only thing that matters. You're the one who should stop being hysterical.ArtistofLegacy said, December 12, 2019, 04:23:56 pmOnly the auto combo, and that's just for the returning cast. The real draw was Shadow Frenzy and being able to use Awakening supers at any time.Just thought I figure out ways to make OHMSBY's finished characters less cloney in case that happens. I don't want him to scrap the current work he's already done to them.
DeathScythe said, December 12, 2019, 04:47:28 pmCan we just go back ontopic? Jesus Christ, the poll is already over...Speedpreacher said, December 12, 2019, 11:30:35 pmEnough about the poll.Thank God i'm not the only one that saying that. Anyway, i diggin' the idea about Shadow Yu, will be great.
【MFG】gui0007 said, December 13, 2019, 12:08:46 amAnyway, i diggin' the idea about Shadow Yu, will be great.I say the same, it would be sensational
Same here, though I do wonder how they’ll be different if they won’t have Astral Heats to use, unless those will be different from their regular counterparts altogether.
Hey OHMSBY, I was wondering if I could be a tester for your characters? I literally have all of your Cross Tag Style characters compiled, which I play almost every day with friends.
Yu has gotten another update. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote- Fixed an error in the Incremental Corner Push code- EX Swift strike's follow up can now only be used 20 frames after activating EX Swift Strike- Fixed an error where Izanagi would dissappear whenever Yu uses any version of Zio while Ziodyne is active- Added special intro against Adachi
There was something that I overlooked concerning Izanagi, so Yu has gotten another quick update. Go ahead and redownload him again.Quote- Fixed an error where Yu couldn't use 5B whenever Izanagi was doing specific actions
One more update for now. Go ahead and redownload Yu.Quote- Fixed an error where Izanagi was unsummonable for a moment after using jB twice in quick succession
Sorry to bug you again. It seems that after I told you about the unsummonable Izanagi on jumping B though PMs, an old bug presented itself once again:SolidZone 26 said, December 02, 2019, 12:18:23 pm-Performing a jumping MA near the ground, a standing B command normal and finishing it with EX Zio will make another Izanagi appear which will also hit the opponent with another EX Zio:This can be performed if quick enough as the coding thinks Izanagi hasn't appeared yet. Both Izanagis will disappear shortly after.Luckily I didn't get around deleting this pic yet as I could do this same thing on this update, so no need for a brand new screenshot. Not your fault, even I had no idea this happened again. It seems like the bug will occur if the jumping MA connects to the opponent or doing standing MA, then Zio, rinse and repeat. At worst case scenario, it will have to be one or the other at this point.
I okay, I have figured out how to take care of both of the bugs. Hopefully this is the last we ever see of it. Go ahead and redownload him.Quote- Fixed an error where Two Izanagis could be on the stage at the same time under certain conditions (Again)
Yu's Japanese voice was updated for his special intro against Adachi, here is the link to download:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Cld2hl-DVhIY3H8xT2LhqlxIsqsF3iVk