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Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019) (Read 13682 times)

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Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#1  May 09, 2019, 01:46:17 am
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Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 11:39:58 pm by Zzyzzyxx
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#2  May 09, 2019, 01:34:09 pm
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Stat bars that lag the engine when recording a video as usual from him, too. (either that or an edit of one of his works)

Nonetheless, I shall her out.
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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi WIP (05-08-2019)
#3  May 16, 2019, 05:04:41 am
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Ohgaki updated Chichi (now it's a Beta 2), adding a super move and fixing some bugs.
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#4  May 16, 2019, 05:39:20 am
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Thanks for the heads up!
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi WIP (05-08-2019)
#5  May 16, 2019, 09:09:14 am
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Wow nice, an OG Chi-Chi. Didn't see this coming. We really need more of this DB character instead of another Goku and Vegeta...even FighterZ does that...
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi WIP (05-08-2019)
#6  May 22, 2019, 11:37:24 pm
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Chichi is officially released at May-23-2019 (22, for Westerners).

He updated plenty of chars as well:

Akari
Princess Athena
Cham-cham
Joe
Kanna
Kotaro
Lilith
May-lee
Nayu Mizuhara
Phewtith
Ralf
Kaede (Seiran)
Kaede (Seiryu)
Unyuho
Yagumo
Yuri Sakazaki

There's also a new folder added to his Onedrive:

パッチ 18禁グラパッチ (18+Graphic Patch), with a few alternate R-18 sffs for some characters.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#7  May 23, 2019, 06:31:19 am
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uh... I think the main link should lead to "kof system" folder where chichi is located instead of the root folder and not mention the 18+ folder because you know... loli...
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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#8  May 23, 2019, 08:47:02 pm
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uh... I think the main link should lead to "kof system" folder where chichi is located instead of the root folder and not mention the 18+ folder because you know... loli...

I think the current link is fine, just tell people to avoid the 18+ folder because of ecchi stuff. Then again, you have to idiot-proof everything to make sure people can't point fingers.
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#9  May 24, 2019, 09:57:25 pm
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Love it!  :smitten:
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#10  May 25, 2019, 12:43:11 pm
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i was actually gonna comment about people will lewd her ... then i remember it's ohgaki. well at least he had made it optionable this time.

did he made the sprite from scratch or is this from an existing game or something? it's good , i really like the movement.

i always wondered why chichi dresses like that , was there any reason why? and why she just became a normal chinese girl at the later part of the story?
Last Edit: May 25, 2019, 12:47:48 pm by 地獄の花
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#11  May 25, 2019, 05:30:50 pm
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did he made the sprite from scratch or is this from an existing game or something? it's good , i really like the movement.

All from the scratch, just like some of his other chars.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#12  May 25, 2019, 06:29:08 pm
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with that quality that's impressive.

anyway dl'd her she's quite messy character , i can't do her shoryuken move properly sometimes it does work sometimes it doesn't.
Last Edit: May 25, 2019, 06:33:31 pm by 地獄の花
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#13  May 25, 2019, 08:18:50 pm
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The frame window available to pull off that move is too small (12 frames).

EDIT: and QCF + attack is placed above (thus, having higher priority than) DP + attack in her cmd. No wonder it's so hard to pull that thing off.
Last Edit: May 25, 2019, 08:41:48 pm by Zzyzzyxx
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#14  May 26, 2019, 03:22:35 am
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The frame window available to pull off that move is too small (12 frames).

EDIT: and QCF + attack is placed above (thus, having higher priority than) DP + attack in her cmd. No wonder it's so hard to pull that thing off.

That happend with other chars like Lilith. I had some trouble to learn Lilith moves cause of the difficulty to pull them off.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#15  May 26, 2019, 03:30:22 am
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with that quality that's impressive.

anyway dl'd her she's quite messy character , i can't do her shoryuken move properly sometimes it does work sometimes it doesn't.

6236 → hadouken
23623 → shoryuken
623236 →hadouken

最後に入力完了したコマンドが優先されます。
The last command completed is given priority.
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#16  May 26, 2019, 03:38:35 am
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Oh wow, I love your work!
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#17  May 26, 2019, 03:54:23 am
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Hey, looks who appeared. Glad to see you here Ohgaki. :)
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#18  May 26, 2019, 04:04:39 am
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すげー!大垣さんをここで見つけるとはとても驚きだなぁ!
"Wow! What a surprise, seeing you here!'

大垣さんのオリジナルキャラクター、素晴らしいだよ!!特に奈優、大好き!チチちゃんもすっごくかわいい\(^o^)/
"Your original characters are amazing! I especially love Nayu-chan! Chichi-chan is adorable, too!"

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Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 04:42:13 am by Zzyzzyxx

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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#19  May 26, 2019, 06:50:18 am
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6236 → hadouken
23623 → shoryuken
623236 →hadouken

最後に入力完了したコマンドが優先されます。
The last command completed is given priority.

Please translate for me Zzyzzyxx:

That's not the way MUGEN prioritizes commands. In the CMD, you must put the difficult commands ABOVE the easier ones. Top to bottom, like this:

623236 →hadouken
23623 → shoryuken
6236 → hadouken

You must also give the more difficult commands a higher time allowance, so they can be performed by a person. Here's some suggested times for those moves:

shinkuu hadouken - time = 28/32
shoryuken - time = 16
hadouken - time = 15

Your sprite work is amazing indeed. Great work and thank you for sharing.
Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 07:09:48 am by DW
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#20  May 26, 2019, 06:20:34 pm
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Well, my priority in regards to Japanese always had been on reading manga and listening, not on having actual communication with native speakers, therefore I still don't have the required amount of skill for such a thing (not to mention all the complicated fighting game terminology and all), but I'll give a try anyway.

DivineWolfの投稿を翻訳してみる。

でも、MUGENのコマンドに優先権を持つ方法はこのようにじゃないけど。

CMDでは、難しいコマンドを簡単なものの上に配置したほうがいいですよ。 上から下へ、最も難しいものから最も簡単なものへ:

~D, DF, F, D, DF, F+アタック →「最も難しい=最高の優先」
~F, D, DF+アタック → 「普通=中」
~D, DF, F+アタック → 「簡単=最低の優先」

昇竜拳のコマンドは波動拳のコマンドより難しい。だから、もっと優先されなければならない。

その上、これは私のコマンド入力受付時間お勧めです。
真空波動拳 = 28/32フレーム約
昇竜拳 = 16フレーム約
波動拳 = 15フレーム約
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#21  May 26, 2019, 07:39:23 pm
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Zzyzzyxxさん、日本語が上手で素晴らしいです。
こちらの翻訳も可能ならばお願いします。

コマンド優先順位は知っています。
ですが、このキャラはどちらも意図的に入力する事が出来るように作っています。
MUGENの仕様では昇竜拳コマンドを優先すると、~F,D,DF,Fと入力した時のように、波動拳コマンドで終わっていても昇竜拳が出ます。(前歩きから波動拳が出せない)
波動拳コマンドを優先すれば、~D,DF,F,D,DFと入力した時のように、昇竜拳コマンドで終わっていても波動拳が出ます。(しゃがみから昇竜拳が出しづらい)
チチはhelper.cnsの記述により、~F,D,DF,Fでは波動拳が、~D,DF,F,D,DFでは昇竜拳が出せるように作られています。
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#22  May 26, 2019, 08:37:41 pm
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難しすぎる(笑)。でも、やってみる。
"It's way too hard (lol), but I'll try nonetheless."

Mr. Zzyzzyxx, I'm impressed with your skill with Japanese language.
I'd appreciate if please, you could translate this message for me as well.

I'm aware of the command priority system in MUGEN.

However, this command system is arranged so that it accepts either command intentionally performed by the player.

Even if one assigns higher priority to the Shoryuken motion, the way MUGEN usually parses special commands interprets an input like ~F, D, DF, F as a motion for Shoryuken, making it impossible, for example, to perform a Hadouken while walking forward.

By giving higher priority for ~D, DF, F, if a player executes a command like ~D,DF,F,D,DF, it results in a Hadouken even if the command technically ends with the command for Shoryuken (it's not easy cancel a crouching attack in a Shoryuken).

According to the description in Chichi's file helper.cns, the code is made so that ~F,D,DF,F results in a hadouken, but ~D,DF,F,D,DF results in a Shoryuken.



So, in fewer words, he assigned priorities so that you have to execute more precise inputs in order to perform Shoryukens and whatnot. He's dealing with the overlap between the commands of hadouken and shoryuken in a different way than usual.



Ohgaki-senpai noticed me. All that time spent reading loli porn in Japanese finally paid off.
Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 08:57:28 pm by Zzyzzyxx
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#23  May 26, 2019, 08:43:46 pm
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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#24  May 26, 2019, 08:47:12 pm
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Don't need that much info about yourself, my dude
Oh, why must I tell 'em again?
What must I tell 'em, my friend?
That we are born into sin
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Nothing but evil duplicitous men
I know you heard of 'em all
We should just murder 'em all
We should just murder and ball
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#25  May 26, 2019, 08:54:13 pm
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Mega Yikes, did not need to know that.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#26  May 26, 2019, 09:21:29 pm
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Great quality on the spritework, for real. You were already really good on ChamCham sprites but this is definitely something else.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#27  May 26, 2019, 09:37:27 pm
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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#28  May 26, 2019, 09:39:02 pm
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Zzyzzyxxさん、日本語が上手で素晴らしいです。
こちらの翻訳も可能ならばお願いします。

コマンド優先順位は知っています。
ですが、このキャラはどちらも意図的に入力する事が出来るように作っています。
MUGENの仕様では昇竜拳コマンドを優先すると、~F,D,DF,Fと入力した時のように、波動拳コマンドで終わっていても昇竜拳が出ます。(前歩きから波動拳が出せない)
波動拳コマンドを優先すれば、~D,DF,F,D,DFと入力した時のように、昇竜拳コマンドで終わっていても波動拳が出ます。(しゃがみから昇竜拳が出しづらい)
チチはhelper.cnsの記述により、~F,D,DF,Fでは波動拳が、~D,DF,F,D,DFでは昇竜拳が出せるように作られています。

hey Idk if you can understand what im saying exactly but I love your characters nice to finally talk to you.
You'll fix chuchoryu ? Sounds like a plan. How about you code him from scratch instead ?
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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#29  May 26, 2019, 09:39:48 pm
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Mega Yikes, did not need to know that.

Don't need that much info about yourself, my dude

Yikes

Don't mind me, I simply happen to feel amused by seeing the reactions of average people to lolicon. But, anyway, let's move on the conversation to what actually matters.



Keep in mind you guys, I am afraid that I might not be the best person to act as an interpreter between the Western community and Ohgaki, or another Japanese creator who happens to have an account here because I'm not used to actually write in Japanese, only to reading. But I'll still try to do my best in this regard.

Laharl の投稿の翻訳。

大垣さんは私が言ってること、わかってるかどうかは知りませんけど、大垣さんのキャラは大好き。私には大垣さんと話せるのは光栄です。

KarmaCharmeleonの投稿。

ドット絵のクォリティー、素晴らしい。チャムチャムのドット絵はとてもいいけど、チチの格好は本当にファーストクラスですよ。
Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 10:08:01 pm by Zzyzzyxx

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Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#30  May 26, 2019, 09:54:16 pm
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It doesn't have to be perfect. You seem to be doing just fine. As long as you can convey the gist of it, the respective parties can fill in the blanks.
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#31  May 26, 2019, 09:55:13 pm
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Don't mind me, I simply happen to feel amused by seeing the reactions of average people to lolicon. But, anyway, let's move on the conversation to what actually matters.

You say that as if lolicon isn't morally wrong.

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#32  May 26, 2019, 09:56:03 pm
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What the fuck are you talking about?
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#33  May 26, 2019, 09:57:08 pm
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oh sorry, you posted ahead of me and I forgot to quote.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#34  May 26, 2019, 10:05:26 pm
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Fellas, when I posted earlier it wasn't an invitation. It was "this is not your blog".

This is my serious hat. Keep the release thread about the release and post a thread in All That's Left if you want to have the other discussion.
Oh, why must I tell 'em again?
What must I tell 'em, my friend?
That we are born into sin
And we are worshiping murderers
Nothing but evil duplicitous men
I know you heard of 'em all
We should just murder 'em all
We should just murder and ball
We dance on the ruins we looting from all of they palace's walls
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#35  May 26, 2019, 10:27:23 pm
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Speed's right, either way it's awesome that Ohgaki actually responded to the thread and hopefully can get feedback from here as well. I personally don't mind the timings of the input that much, but I can see some people having trouble with it.
Re: Ohgaki released Young Chichi (05-23-2019)
#36  May 26, 2019, 10:36:59 pm
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Indeed. It's not like it's easy to get used to that priority system, and the difficulty to pull off special moves somehow seems to be even more noticeable in Chichi than in his previous chars.

Nonetheless, I like her. She doesn't have much combo ability and many of her moves are slower than average, but I still find her fun to play. This is what counts in the end.