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CUSTOM Sagat NEW FOCUS ATTACK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#1 June 08, 2015, 05:03:22 pm

hi to all,

i post in a new 3d my work on sagat new kicks. I used cvs joe higashi base.

I think they're more muay thai accurate.

sorry for the poor quality.

Here you are a test of new kicks of sagat.
the char is from divinewolf (obviously i've asked its permission to edit).
since i'm not a coder and i'm not able to add a complete new move, i've edited low and high punches to add the 2nd hit to show you the "slash" version of the 2 kicks:

there are still some palettes/ colors problem, but i'd like to show you my progress so far.

what do you think?

Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 03:59:48 pm by M206

FeLo_Llop

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#2 June 08, 2015, 05:18:54 pm

¡Ni p*ta ni santa! ¡Digo!

I like'em!! The third becomes a bit blurry, but they're good overall

I swear there was something cool here!!

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#3 June 08, 2015, 05:39:54 pm

thanks, yes you're right, i didn't have to much time to clean and polish some sprites..

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#4 June 09, 2015, 09:56:58 am

found some time to try fighters factory.

here you are the results:

finished low kick:

finished middle kick:

finished high kick:

what do you think?

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#5 June 09, 2015, 10:50:27 am

3 hit combo multiple middle kick:

2 hit combo low to high kick (bruce irvin inspired):

Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 10:59:24 am by M206

MotorRoach

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#6 June 09, 2015, 12:11:20 pm

Shit

The animations in here have a really nice flow. Only thing it lacks now would be polishing the shading and it would be pretty much finished.

Shit

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#7 June 09, 2015, 12:21:15 pm

thanks.

about polishing the shading, unfortunately i'm not so good in that..

maybe someone could help??

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#8 June 09, 2015, 03:40:03 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

I'm definitely using this

JustNoPoint

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#9 June 09, 2015, 03:43:31 pm

They animate nicely but the fact that the upper body does the exact same pose in all animations makes them lose "value" as a whole.

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#10 June 09, 2015, 04:03:21 pm

Shao-San said, June 09, 2015, 03:40:03 pm

I'm definitely using this

great!!

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#11 June 09, 2015, 04:06:11 pm

Just No Point said, June 09, 2015, 03:43:31 pm

They animate nicely but the fact that the upper body does the exact same pose in all animations makes them lose "value" as a whole.

well if you check carefully, there are some very little differences, so it's not completely the same, btw even in the classic kicks you'll find they used the same upper sprites (except for the high one)..

anyway i'll see if i can do something.

Flowrellik

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#12 June 09, 2015, 06:18:39 pm

Raging Fist

I can actually see these kicks as an alternate kick set for Sagat or even used for a Maxed out Tiger raid, like he would start with a crouch kick, then the new low to med to high kick with a spin with the raid finish.

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#13 June 10, 2015, 10:31:07 am

M206 said, June 09, 2015, 04:06:11 pm

Just No Point said, June 09, 2015, 03:43:31 pm
They animate nicely but the fact that the upper body does the exact same pose in all animations makes them lose "value" as a whole.

anyway i'll see if i can do something.

here you are the 3 kick with some changes:

low kick var1:

middle kick var1:

high kick var1:

which one you prefer?

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#14 June 10, 2015, 10:39:13 am

then, based on the var1 low kick, i've prepared 1 new low kick (SVC inpired):

low kick closed (not the same var1):

low kick wider:

in my mind, we could keep all 3 low kicks.

in normal condition standard low kick (maybe i prefer var1).

when the opponent is near the closed version.

then forward+lk will perform wider version.

what do you think?

Trololo

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new kicks

#15 June 10, 2015, 10:45:32 am

Objection! Sustained!

Nise stuff!
Keep it up!

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#16 June 11, 2015, 09:56:08 am

some new punches (not so good like the kicks

)

new light punch:

new mid punch:

new hook punch:

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#17 June 12, 2015, 06:03:58 pm

some other news:

alt. new light punch:

alt. new mid punch:

new hook punch sx:

new 5 hit punch combo:

new 5 hit punch combo + step:

what do you think?

feedback are really appreciate.

i know i'd have to work on timings, i think they could be far improved..

MotorRoach

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#18 June 12, 2015, 06:32:05 pm

Shit

A good part of those punches could use one or two more frames to transition better. The hook punch looks pretty good, though.

Shit

demopan1478

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#19 June 12, 2015, 06:38:09 pm

These works are AWESOME!

But, I'm gonna be critical in this topic, because that could be much more helpful to you.

Good, but the axis is bit wrong IMO, and the motion could be a bit faster.

The same problem. The axis and the speed.

Fix the axis a bit. Others are fine. Headkick would be slow and powerful move, so I shouldn't be faster than this. Speed is just good.

Fine. A combination like mid-low-low, mid-mid-high can be become valid with additional keyboard input, like "HoldUp", "HoldDown"

Great.

Newer kicks

I think the older ones are better, but you can use the both of them, the older, and the newer.

Perfect.

Is there any difference? Making more difference will be better.

Too slow.

Not smooth. Needs more sprites.

Looks fine, but nothing differs from the upper one.

Not bad, but looks like an elbow. (Needs more sprites.)

Not smooth at all. Remove the "alt. new light punch".

This is perfect. Looks gorgeous.

I hope this one helped you.

Sinnesloschen

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#20 June 12, 2015, 06:38:16 pm

tired

The shading on the legs for most of the kicks seems really awkward. I dunno how to put it into words. $:-\$

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#21 June 12, 2015, 08:50:28 pm

@demopan1478

Thanks for your critics, i have lot of things to learn, it's just a week that i've start this new "editing" thing, i'm a newbie.

could you please explain me the "axis" matter?

i don't know what you mean.

about the timing i think it's quite difficult, maybe later i'll post the single sprites so you can suggest me which one to extend and which one to shorten.

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#22 June 12, 2015, 08:51:10 pm

Xan said, June 12, 2015, 06:38:16 pm

The shading on the legs for most of the kicks seems really awkward. I dunno how to put it into words. $:-\$

yes you're quite right, i'm not so good in shading..

Flowrellik

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#23 June 13, 2015, 03:33:48 am

Raging Fist

yeah the shading could use some work but overall....I can see this for an alternate mode for sagat in the future.
good job bud

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#24 June 13, 2015, 03:39:56 am

Nothing lasts forever Jack

demopan1478 said, June 12, 2015, 06:38:09 pm

These works are AWESOME!

But, I'm gonna be critical in this topic, because that could be much more helpful to you.

This is perfect. Looks gorgeous.

God, thats beatiful. That could help as an intro with Ryu's Reppu Jinrai Shou

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#25 August 03, 2015, 08:52:20 pm

sorry for long no posting, but the time is always less..

anyway, here you are my new mid kick sx:

and then new combo mid kick sx dx sx:

do you like it?

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#26 August 04, 2015, 09:22:55 pm

here you are the teep kick (cvs joe higashi base):

any feedback?

MotorRoach

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#27 August 04, 2015, 10:55:26 pm

Shit

I only think that the leg, when being extended forward, could look less still-- as in, move it a bit in the second frame of the impact, or something like that.

The animation still has a great flow to it, though.

Shit

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#28 August 04, 2015, 11:55:51 pm

yes you're full right, thanks, i've messed up with the sprites, i used the wrong ones in the last anim..

here you are the fixed one:

i think i understood what you mean

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#29 August 05, 2015, 03:54:15 am

Nothing lasts forever Jack

That's a really good concept, and flows great, I want you in my project

I only see one more frame missing, maybe he should move his kicking foot a bit. Keep the good work

I'm working a bit with your sprites, they're very creative

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#30 August 05, 2015, 09:53:58 am

thanks man, i've checked and, compared to cvs joe higashi i have, there are no missing sprites.

anyway, small tweaks on some details in several sprites and timing (exactly the cvs joe ones):

and the "strong" version (little changes in timings only):

which you prefer?

i think these are the definitive versions of my teep kick (no more tweaks if you agree), i'll go on with the next new move.

Toni

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#31 August 05, 2015, 10:44:09 am

1-Up

The animations look good to me, especially the second one, but the shading doesn't work. It doesn't make sense for the raised leg to stay that dark. Just look at the other kicks to see what it should look like.

Supergirl v2

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#32 August 05, 2015, 03:52:35 pm

uhm, i'm not sure if i totally agree with you, anyway here you are a little lighter raised leg

what do you think?

Odb718

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#33 August 10, 2015, 11:05:54 am

Shame on you!

All of the animations look great. Obviously they need a lot more detail(s). Just minor things that will polish the character's look.
Like the first and last frame of the Teep Kick, his shorts seem tight to his leg.
The wrapped look of his legs. Just the small stuff.
Overall they look pretty good.

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#34 August 28, 2015, 10:20:12 am

hello, i'm back, i changed my mind, i wanted to try to completely edit the cvs joe's low kick to find out how it could look like on sagat.

here you are the result.

i'm not sure if continue to completely edit the cvs joe moves into sagat (i think that cvs joe is the most accurate muay thai char, speaking about sprites and flow of the animations) or to continue with my previous edits (of course not so good like these last two - teep kick and low kick).

here you are the comparison:

new one:

old one:

Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 10:43:33 am by M206

MotorRoach

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#35 August 28, 2015, 01:43:24 pm

Shit

The differences really are night and day, between the new and the old one. Without a doubt, the new one looks much better, given that you've managed to give it a much natural flow. I just love how smooth you managed to make the animation as well. Good work.

Shit

Thagr8test

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#36 August 28, 2015, 02:01:07 pm

thats one fluid kick nice work man

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#37 September 04, 2015, 07:37:18 pm

thanks for your feedback.

here you are my new "hook" kick (or sort of), based from adon intro vs sagat.

i know it's not so good like the previous ones, but unfortunately the base sprite of adon are very few, i think some more sprite would needed to be more flow..

anyway i like the result.

what do you think??

AiRiC

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#38 September 04, 2015, 08:21:15 pm

I'm a llama!

His face needs to twist slightly and this would be coo if this move hit on both sides seeing how he's doing that back hand in case of a cross up.

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#39 September 05, 2015, 10:50:31 am

well myabe i'll try to improve it's face, but about the other hit it was not intended for this reason..

comparison between my two new "high" kicks:

i think i'll try to improve a little bit the second one.

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#40 September 05, 2015, 09:35:36 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

You blow my mind with your stuff even though that kick is incomplete it looks great

Flowrellik

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#41 September 05, 2015, 09:44:02 pm

Raging Fist

geez with a moveset like this I can safely say Sagat might see a brand new mode for him: EX Sagat XD

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#42 September 07, 2015, 08:30:59 am

thanks guys!!

Shao Jetstream said, September 05, 2015, 09:35:36 pm

You blow my mind with your stuff even though that kick is incomplete it looks great

why do you say that kick is incomplete??

in my mind i thought this kick to be something like "cobra sword" of bruce irvin..

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#43 September 10, 2015, 05:48:11 pm

hi, a little improvement in my last hook kick:

i've added one more sprite and slighty changed some other details..

do you prefer this one??

Odb718

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#44 September 10, 2015, 10:18:37 pm

Shame on you!

It doesnt look right in my opinion. It almost looks like his leg would be dislocated from his hip to be able to kick like that.
You may be able to make it flow right if the retracting has a different angle. To have the kick retract the same way it was kicked out look funky to me.

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#45 September 11, 2015, 09:18:42 am

maybe i've understood what you mean.

please be patient cause the central frame was drawn by scratch (handmade) and so it's not so easy to edit like i would like..

deddy95

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#46 September 11, 2015, 11:45:45 am

I don't really understand what advantages you get from bending your leg like in frame #6. Is there a video reference of this kick or anything similar you can show?

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#47 September 11, 2015, 12:08:50 pm

yes, it's a bruce irvin move, check from this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dor_IxmKLc

min. 2.05 name "cobra sword".

i know my work is not so accurate, but i liked to try out how this move could appear on Sagat...

deddy95

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#48 September 11, 2015, 01:52:48 pm

That move will be extremely difficult to get right without the right amount of frames and a good sense of perspective.
From what i see the motion includes more rotation of the torso and the right (our left) leg, the kicking leg should bend a little more towards our direction and not only towards the ground and these problems are all coming from the sixth frame. In my opinion that last "push" should follow the trajectory given by the 3rd, the 4th and 5th frame.
This animation is really tough but if you'll get it right it will be amazing!

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#49 September 18, 2015, 10:34:29 am

yes you're right, it's very difficult, and probably i'm not skilled enough to complete it with the missing frames..

btw, great work with your piccolo, can i take some inspirations from your sprites to create new moves for sagat?

deddy95

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#50 September 19, 2015, 11:05:40 am

Sure you can, PM me if you wanna ask me something!

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#51 February 03, 2016, 04:59:59 pm

Hello everyone, sorry about my absence..

anyway i'm here again with a new sprite edit.

here you are the new sagat stance (based on sf1 trololo/varo hades version).

i hope you like it.

feedback are appreciated.

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#52 February 03, 2016, 10:30:51 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

That is a great animation, but i have done some tweaks. I'm glad you're back

EDIT:
Imagine he is moving his left leg(our right)fordward and backwards, some kind of bounce

M206

Re: CvS (sort of) Sagat new moves (kicks, punches, and whatever)

#53 February 05, 2016, 05:47:04 pm

thanks, but i'd like to keep the leg in the way i posted above..

i think they're more muay thai accurate.

here you are a little enhanced version using your colors:

what do you think?

TheHateThatHateMade

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#54 February 07, 2016, 05:55:14 pm

Hate is just confused admiration.

Shao's stance is closer to a Muay Thai stance, your stance looks more like a wrestler who is looking to shoot. That stance is too wide, just think about balance. You couldn't launch proper kicks or even check kicks with that stance.

Examples:

It's all the same in the end, matter and motion, simple or complex. No difference, finally. Death, transfiguration. Ashes to ashes and slime to slime, amen.

Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 06:08:10 pm by TheHateThatHateMade

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#55 February 07, 2016, 07:09:11 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

Actually, his right hand(our left) is immpossible to turn like that, but it looks great

Do you mind if i borrow some of this and that?

hatter

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#56 February 07, 2016, 07:52:08 pm

Somewhere between Guilty Gear and real rap
ey b0ss

..... what turning? Where are you even looking?

The Hate That Made Hate, where did you get that GIF from? I'd love to know the source, and thanks for sharing it.

This is a generic forum signature.

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#57 February 07, 2016, 08:05:44 pm

TheHateThatHateMade said, February 07, 2016, 05:55:14 pm

Shao's stance is closer to a Muay Thai stance, your stance looks more like a wrestler who is looking to shoot. That stance is too wide, just think about balance. You couldn't launch proper kicks or even check kicks with that stance.

Examples:

uhm, i don't agree with you too much..

the stance you posted is correct, but it's the defensive stance.
in muay thai there are at least 2 kind of stances, attacking and defendig one.
i wanted to reproduce the attack one.

example:

shao, try to look closer, i think that the hands are correct.

of course you can.

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#58 February 07, 2016, 08:13:48 pm

TheHateThatHateMade said, February 07, 2016, 05:55:14 pm

Examples:

and anyway, (unfortunately just like 99% of people that think about muay thai), that kind of stance is incorrect.
in the right way to stay in "stance", the forearms don't have to go up and down, but slightly forward and back.
at least this is the way my kruu (master) teached us.

and that's the way i tried to reproduce with my sagat.

check this video, it's quite explaining what i mean. check 0.55 and 1.10.

or this video too:

Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 08:32:04 pm by M206

DelusionTrim

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#59 February 08, 2016, 12:48:31 am

Seize the coveted miracle in the game of death.

Nobody seemed to have mentioned it but the toes on his right foot look odd... maybe you should make them a bit larger.

(DeviantART) - Ignore my username on DA as it was made long before I learned what the fanbase was like...

TheHateThatHateMade

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#60 February 08, 2016, 01:23:18 am

Hate is just confused admiration.

No offense but what you animated looks nothing like anything in any of the examples you posted. Stance is still too wide, even by what the examples you posted state. Also, that right leg position looks very unnatural but we can agree to disagree. I'd love to see some one with that stance in front of me cause i wouldnt have to worry about any power coming from a leg kick.

Zaitsu it's from here

http://muaythaipros.com/boxing-vs-muay-thai-everything-know/

It's all the same in the end, matter and motion, simple or complex. No difference, finally. Death, transfiguration. Ashes to ashes and slime to slime, amen.

hatter

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#61 February 08, 2016, 01:49:41 am

Somewhere between Guilty Gear and real rap
ey b0ss

TheHateThatHateMade said, February 08, 2016, 01:23:18 am

Zaitsu it's from here

http://muaythaipros.com/boxing-vs-muay-thai-everything-know/

Thanks!

This is a generic forum signature.

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#62 February 08, 2016, 03:30:57 pm

ok, i've try to modify the previous stance.

i've kept the original leg and applied my torso.

here you are the result:

then i've tried to speed up (sligtly) my previous version, same speed of the above.

here you are:

sincerely, i prefer my own new version, and not the one with original legs. :/

what do you think??

Trololo

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#63 February 08, 2016, 04:20:59 pm

Objection! Sustained!

M206, yes, your one looks good. But I prefere upper one. Just really, the King of Muai Thai must have a real Muai Thai stance.
Nice work.
-----------------------
P.S.; you got the glitch in the handband. It's transperent. Not white. Try to fix it.

Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 04:29:32 pm by Trololo

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#64 February 08, 2016, 04:49:08 pm

thanks trololo.

ok let's see what happen.

yes you're right, i'll fix it soon.

here you are new forward walk:

some colors and details are not properly fixed yet, this is just to see how it come out.

what do you think?

soon the backward walk.

Trololo

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#65 February 08, 2016, 05:03:12 pm

Objection! Sustained!

Definetely better, than original one. But I think his left arm would be better for backward walk. Still, I want to see your b.walk version first.
Keep it up!

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#66 February 08, 2016, 05:13:25 pm

thanks, unfortunately i've lost some work on b.ward sprites.

this will take some more time to come out..

S. Jetstream

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#67 February 08, 2016, 06:12:37 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

Totally awesome!!

But if you see my sprite you'll notice i've resized his leg, i dunno why but i felt those legs were a bit wide and big. Think about the upper body, it's a totally CVS meanwhile the lower part is a SFA "resized".

>>>

i dunno i'm mad about perfectionism

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#68 February 09, 2016, 07:51:11 am

Shao Jetstream said, February 08, 2016, 06:12:37 pm

Totally awesome!!

But if you see my sprite you'll notice i've resized his leg, i dunno why but i felt those legs were a bit wide and big. Think about the upper body, it's a totally CVS meanwhile the lower part is a SFA "resized".

>>>

i dunno i'm mad about perfectionism

thanks!!

i'm not sure if i agree with you, i think that the proportions between legs and arms are slightly more "natural" in my version, no offence but in your one the legs seems too small.. points of view..

and furthermore then i should have to redraw all the 4 sprites..

MotorRoach

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#69 February 10, 2016, 12:05:32 pm

Shit

I honestly prefer Shao's legs for Sagat. The legs in your stance look a little too generic for me to like it.

Shit

lui

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#70 February 10, 2016, 12:11:25 pm

I agree, I prefer Shao's legs as well

M206

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#71 February 10, 2016, 12:22:07 pm

ok ok i'll keep the stance with my torso and original legs.

lui

Re: CvS Sagat NEW STANCE and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#72 February 10, 2016, 10:05:21 pm

i just overall like shao's better, since he edited the shading to be cvs-accurate, but your anim is fine as well, maybe combine the two?

M206

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#73 February 24, 2016, 06:01:50 pm

here you are a new mid kick inspired from omega mode of ultra street fighter 4.

don't mind the quality, it's just a test to try the animation, i'm planning to mod it again, it's not the final version of course.

feedback are welcome.

M206

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#74 February 25, 2016, 09:39:24 am

quick test 2.

1 sprite added and some sprites slighty modified.

what do you think?

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#75 February 25, 2016, 09:58:56 am

Objection! Sustained!

Previous one looks better, if to be honest.
Good job.

Odb718

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#76 March 01, 2016, 06:16:26 am

Shame on you!

I think the extra frame is part of the back spin where the foot is still out front? Maybe make it a little bit blurred or add a streak effect to it?
But as it is, the first one looks faster and smoother

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

M206

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#77 March 01, 2016, 02:44:32 pm

thanks guys, i'll try to improve it anyway.

S. Jetstream

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#78 March 01, 2016, 04:15:29 pm

Nothing lasts forever Jack

You are not using Joe as a base anymore?

AlexSin

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#79 March 01, 2016, 05:04:49 pm

There's still a bit of Joe in the animation: the arms and the legs when he attacks.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#80 March 01, 2016, 05:57:21 pm

not completely...

in the slash kick i've use my "new mid kick" (that has some joe parts as ispiration in the legs) and several adon's part (obviously resized) for the arms and the torso.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#81 March 03, 2016, 11:38:41 am

here you are an improved version of my new mid slash kick..

what do you think??

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#82 March 03, 2016, 11:42:20 am

Objection! Sustained!

Now we're talking!
It really looks better now. Good Job!

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#83 March 03, 2016, 11:52:37 am

thanks!!

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#84 March 03, 2016, 05:39:38 pm

here you a test version of a new LOW slash kick..

what do you think??

DelusionTrim

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#85 March 04, 2016, 01:45:58 am

Seize the coveted miracle in the game of death.

There's a wrong shade of color (grey) on his pants and legs, other than that it looks fine I think.

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AlexSin

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#86 March 04, 2016, 10:52:59 am

Also the shading is totally different from Sagat's (it's Joe's shading, of course) and that clashes a lot with the sprites Sagat has.
He also moves the arms too much when recovering/turning to stand position.

Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 11:12:40 am by Sin-

lui

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#87 March 04, 2016, 10:56:37 am

yeaaah, the frankenspriting is way too obvious, try to edit the muscles alot more

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#88 March 04, 2016, 11:45:16 am

yes, you're all right, i'm frankenspriting with a little edit, of course it's simpler.. :/ :/

anyway, here you are the improved version with the colours corrected..

what do you think?

maybe i can slow down it a little..

i agree with sin about the arm's movement, but i don't know how to improve this..

edit:

here you are a slower version:

Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 11:49:42 am by M206

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#89 March 04, 2016, 12:32:25 pm

Objection! Sustained!

M206 said, March 04, 2016, 11:45:16 am

i agree with sin about the arm's movement, but i don't know how to improve this..

You didn't have this problem on the FIRST original anim of it. Try to look at this as a reference.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#90 March 04, 2016, 03:01:15 pm

Trololo said, March 04, 2016, 12:32:25 pm

M206 said, March 04, 2016, 11:45:16 am
i agree with sin about the arm's movement, but i don't know how to improve this..

You didn't have this problem on the FIRST original anim of it. Try to look at this as a reference.

at which first original anim of it are you referring to??

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#91 March 04, 2016, 03:20:49 pm

Objection! Sustained!

M206 said, March 04, 2016, 03:01:15 pm

Trololo said, March 04, 2016, 12:32:25 pm
M206 said, March 04, 2016, 11:45:16 am
i agree with sin about the arm's movement, but i don't know how to improve this..

You didn't have this problem on the FIRST original anim of it. Try to look at this as a reference.

at which first original anim of it are you referring to??

At this one. Ot it's too fast so I don;t see any hand movement, or this is usual hand movement.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#92 March 04, 2016, 05:04:07 pm

ok, i've tried to change the arm's movement,

do you think this one's better??

Odb718

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#93 March 04, 2016, 07:29:49 pm

Shame on you!

When his arm comes down at the full kick, you have him raise both of his arms as he twists.
Keep his right arm flat as he turns and ends. The arms going up with the hands out like that look like a tech-hit kind of snap back pose. Like he's breaking free of a grab or a guard crush or something.
Another big problem is that he opens and closes his fists a few times. Stick with one or the other, or just switch one time.

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#94 March 07, 2016, 08:27:05 am

Odb718 said, March 04, 2016, 07:29:49 pm

When his arm comes down at the full kick, you have him raise both of his arms as he twists.
Keep his right arm flat as he turns and ends. The arms going up with the hands out like that look like a tech-hit kind of snap back pose. Like he's breaking free of a grab or a guard crush or something.
Another big problem is that he opens and closes his fists a few times. Stick with one or the other, or just switch one time.

maybe i've understood what you mean, but it's quite difficult for me to mod it.. i'm mainly able to do "frankensprites", and that arm should be drawn from 0..

anyway i'll try..

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#95 March 07, 2016, 09:04:48 am

Objection! Sustained!

M206 said, March 04, 2016, 05:04:07 pm

ok, i've tried to change the arm's movement,

do you think this one's better??

No, I wasn't about that. Try to keep his right arm down all over anim, like in original one.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#96 March 07, 2016, 05:46:19 pm

here you are a redrawn version.. i like how it come out, but i'm sure i could do better with the shading.. i'm definetely not good with that..

i closed the left punch, and redrawn the right arm movement..

what do you think? :/ :/ :/

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#97 March 07, 2016, 06:28:11 pm

Objection! Sustained!

Nice! But try to make him keep his right hand more straight.

DelusionTrim

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#98 March 07, 2016, 06:33:35 pm

Seize the coveted miracle in the game of death.

Looks better imo, much more realistic and less stiff

Took a closer look at the animation, it seems like his eyepatch is of the wrong color before and during the kick, instead of it being black it looks like it has the same color shade as his skin...

Also it looks like you forgot to put his chest scar in these animations?

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M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#99 March 08, 2016, 11:44:03 am

ok, i've redrawn some sprites to try to make him better, and i've fixed the small issues (eyepatch and scar)

here you are the result.

do you like it?

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#100 March 08, 2016, 03:16:07 pm

here you are the "old" sprites list:

here you are the "new" sprites list:

i think the newer is better..

Odb718

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#101 March 12, 2016, 11:07:23 pm

Shame on you!

It looks a lot better! The shading could use a tiny bit of work but overall it looks pretty good. Tucking the arm in looks good. All the arm changes look good imo

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#102 March 14, 2016, 06:57:59 pm

thanks man!!

here you are some other ideas jsut for fun..

2 hit combo

3 hit combo

of course a lot of sprites and timings has to be tweaked..

MotorRoach

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#103 March 14, 2016, 09:18:18 pm

Shit

Loving the flow of the combo so far.

Shit

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#104 March 15, 2016, 11:11:48 am

thanks man!!

Some tweaks:

2 hit combo

3 hit combo

Thedge

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#105 March 15, 2016, 01:35:11 pm

Lazy spriter
Demon in heaven gotta carry a knife

I think there are some franes thta the shadowing varies so much, specially in the first sprites that he shows his back, then the eye patch possition changes in a couple of frames.

That’s when I thought, “good grief”
Just ain’t my belief
Until I saw the holes
Inside his hand

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#106 March 17, 2016, 11:13:34 am

yes you're right, i've used some adon and joe bases, so the shading is a little different..

anyway here you are a new kick:

of course it's inspired from joe's slash kick

what do you think?

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW SLASH KICK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#107 March 22, 2016, 04:29:01 pm

high kick nearly completely redrawn:

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#108 March 24, 2016, 01:50:07 pm

check the 1st post!!

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#109 March 24, 2016, 02:21:30 pm

Objection! Sustained!

Checked your vid.
Looks nice. But I don't think such anims looks nice with 2 hits at one anim.

M206

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#110 March 24, 2016, 02:29:23 pm

yes yes i know, it's only to show you the slash low kick and the slash high kick (as i wrote in the 1st post i'm not a coder and i don't know how to add a complete new move)

M206

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#111 April 06, 2016, 08:56:43 am

ok, in the meanwhile i've slighty improved my coding skills, i've been able to fix several things.

I've released a beta in Project.

Feedbacks are really welcome, thanks!

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#112 April 06, 2016, 10:24:05 am

Objection! Sustained!

Tested him out.
Looks beautiful. But on MY personal oppinion as a knockdown kick must be not F+LK, but F+HK.
And to fix a such issues like misaligned sparks.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#113 April 06, 2016, 10:35:49 am

thanks!

about the knockdown kick, i'm not sure, i could agree with you, in my mind the best would be F,F+Lk, but i didn't check yet out to mod that kind of command.

About the misaligned sparks you're fully right, i've simply copied the states from another kick, so they're wrong..

I'd need help in this.. could you help me?

Trololo

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#114 April 06, 2016, 10:54:09 am

Objection! Sustained!

M206 said, April 06, 2016, 10:35:49 am

thanks!

about the knockdown kick, i'm not sure, i could agree with you, in my mind the best would be F,F+Lk, but i didn't check yet out to mod that kind of command.

About the misaligned sparks you're fully right, i've simply copied the states from another kick, so they're wrong..

I'd need help in this.. could you help me?

I can help you only telling you how it works.
sparkxy = -10 + 0 * (var(35) := 55), var(36) := -82
See this? Look at the values of var(35) and var(36).
-Number os var(35)= X position of spark.
-Number of var(36)= Y position of spark.
It's easy, cause it works with the same way. Just don't touch anything but values.

M206

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#115 April 06, 2016, 12:08:57 pm

ok thanks, i'll try asap.

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW TEST YOUTUBE VIDEO and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#116 April 07, 2016, 03:59:24 pm

new focus attack:

Odb718

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW FOCUS ATTACK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#117 April 07, 2016, 07:53:48 pm

Shame on you!

Nice work on the focus. Youre getting a lot better at this. The top of his Right forearm needs a highlight. Maybe his right calf muscle. Looks great though.

vVv Ryuko718 Updated 10/31/22 vVv

lui

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW FOCUS ATTACK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#118 April 07, 2016, 09:27:08 pm

you still need to fix the obvious cvs shading that you took from joe, it's pretty jarring to say the least

necro bump

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW FOCUS ATTACK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#119 April 13, 2016, 10:14:16 pm

O_O This is the best Sagat I've ever seen! The best of the best!! Finally it seems him a muay thai fight! My sincere congratulations! I will monitor their work and wait anxious for downloading it!

M206

Re: CUSTOM Sagat NEW FOCUS ATTACK and moves (kicks, punches, etc etc)

#120 April 20, 2016, 07:41:30 am

thanks man!

i really appreciate your feedback.

there's beta1 available for download in edits & addons 1.0 section.

i'm working on beta 2..

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