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Bison-Possessed Ryu (Muteki)
#1  October 01, 2013, 01:33:25 am
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Some of you remember Marancv's old Muteki WIP, right? I'm going to be picking that up, though I know nothing about coding and have no plans to learn, too time-consuming for me between my job and housework. For now I'm just going to sprite him and see what happens. He might be in the Special Operations project if the leader likes the idea but I haven't gotten a response, might not be. Either way I hope to have him coded in Spec Ops style.


He will have fifteen specials (four air) and ten supers (two air) which is about as many as I THINK Sevil Nahte and Dark Bolt have.

I'll post more when I have more time.
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Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 01:12:34 am by Kaizaran
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u know, i knew that sprite looks familiar it's m.bison with ryu's head, right?
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#3  October 01, 2013, 04:29:14 am
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That's right.

Here's the list of specials.
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And the list of supers.
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Special Intros
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Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 12:11:13 am by Kaizaran
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I would go with a Bison/Vega Warp instead of the Asura-Warp considering it's Vega controlling Ryu's body, so he'd be more inclined to use M. Bison's moves, as Bison is the dominant personailty ...

Also, let me know if you need help doing additional head-swaps ... Umihei's SF3 Vega has sprites of Bison doing a Dive-Kick and a Shoryuken in the folder you could possibly refrence in making some of the sprites for his moves ...
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#5  October 02, 2013, 01:17:07 am
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I appreciate the offer, but for now all I need is a good VA that can pull off a voice that's like the combined voices of Bison and Evil Ryu and a S.O. style coder.

Updated list with Supers and Special Intros, replaced Fist Flurry with Bison Warp. Keeping Ashura Warp because there can be a few good warp-chain strategies that way, and I'm basically using those two as rolls anyway.
I added a lot of non-SO intros because they aren't that hard to make, generally, aside from dialogue intros. And I can see some interesting reactions to Muteki from the listed characters, especially Rose and Gouken.
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#6  October 02, 2013, 03:50:40 am
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Double post but why the hell not in the name of a quick update? I finished the Tatsumaki.

As we can see here, Bison has put his own spin [hee hee] on the move. Next up is either Inverted Tatsumaki, or Shinkuu versions of them or Hadouken.
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#7  October 03, 2013, 01:36:08 am
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#8  October 03, 2013, 02:05:20 am
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Wow, man, thanks a ton! That slices my workload into like, a quarter of what it was.

So I guess now I'll just be finishing the specials, supers, intros and the remainder of Duracelleur's animations. Wow ^_^ The world may see Muteki yet!

What do you guys think about the headband? It's no trouble to remove it, I just want to know if you guys think he should keep it as a token of his victory or something.
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#9  October 03, 2013, 08:19:58 am
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Ah cool to see someone finishing this project, I was kinda dissapointed when I heard it was dead. Good luck with that.

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#10  October 03, 2013, 05:25:06 pm
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I'd remove it and maybe add Bison's cap.
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#11  October 03, 2013, 05:31:13 pm
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If you add Bison's cap, he'd look straight up like Bison :P
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#12  October 03, 2013, 05:40:33 pm
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I say remove it to symbolize bison's victory over him.
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#13  October 03, 2013, 08:04:05 pm
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Cool project
I'll suggest you to go without cap and without headband.
So it's Ryu body, but no sign of his past.
Also, the cap would be too bison-ish. To recognize Ryu, his head have to be "uncaped"

Do you have idea for his voiceset?

BTW your work is nice, Dura!

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#14  October 03, 2013, 08:07:41 pm
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I would keep the headband, it makes animations more interesting and keeps that Ryu nostalgia intact. There is already so much Bison and so little Ryu as is.
Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 08:18:50 pm by ink
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#15  October 03, 2013, 10:48:24 pm
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We could be discussing this all day, but I think a poll in the opening post would be better to prevent polluting the thread :P

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#16  October 04, 2013, 12:13:10 am
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Added poll to OP.
I myself voted for take it off during intro, as it could just be one of his randomized intros.

Working right now on changing the hair color of Dura's work and removing the headband. Thanks a ton, man!
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#17  October 04, 2013, 12:52:09 am
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He might be in the Special Operations project, might not be.
Sorry but...I don't know what you are talking about.
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#18  October 04, 2013, 01:11:36 am
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On the Power Gear thread, Muteki was in the list of suggestions, and he was well recieved, so I said, hey I'll go ahead and start making him and if O Ilusionista likes it then he can be in, if not then he can be a special ops style char.

I actually planned on editing the OP to say pretty much that, but I didn't have the time for it when I had posted that and it slipped my mind. Since you're here though, what do you think?
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Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 01:15:28 am by Kaizaran
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#19  October 04, 2013, 05:18:18 pm
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Sevil is the souless body of M.Bison/Vega on the history, his soul was transfered to another body (secret). About the Muteki, I neither like the idea neither think it will fit (its CVS sprites, they are skinner than MVC ones), sorry. I will contact Ethan about it, but I personally am against this idea. But thanks for the suggestions.

But continue your char as a stand alone char, it have some potential.
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#20  October 04, 2013, 05:28:37 pm
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I agree. Marancv's original idea wasn't the SpecOps storyline, but more like other, more canon oriented what ifs, like Asura being God Rugal's what if ending.

This will make a great standalone char within the CVS/SF expanded mythos, and it doesn't need to stick to other fan games to be successful :P

(no offense to O Ilu's game, don't get me wrong)
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#21  October 04, 2013, 05:56:40 pm
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No offense taken :) Spec Ops storyline is an alternative storyline, its not the big issue.
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#22  October 05, 2013, 12:26:09 am
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Oh no that's perfectly fine, no problem. I guess he'd just be a S.O. ripoff style char (kinda like how there are MVCEOH style chars that aren't actually in EOH) in that case. While that's not Marancv's original intent, that's how I see him myself. I might actually attempt to learn coding just for that exact sake; to make him in that style.
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#23  October 05, 2013, 01:09:42 am
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Just a suggestion, but you're welcome to use these color separated sprites to give him a sleeveless look with some palettes. 
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#24  October 05, 2013, 03:58:56 am
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No offense taken :) Spec Ops storyline is an alternative storyline, its not the big issue.


Is the actual Spec Ops storyline written anywhere? I'd love to read it
Muteki's looking great btw, can't wait for some gameplay videos.
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#25  October 05, 2013, 04:20:21 am
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Muteki's looking great btw, can't wait for some gameplay videos.

Thanks for the compliment, and I would be glad to oblige for you on that one but as of right now I still need a coder and VA. For now I have to pull an Asura/Mel Masters and keep on spriting 'till I get a coder, and then sprite some more. The best I could do is spriteswap POTS' Vega, as if his chars aren't already spriteswapped a lot.

Here is everything that has been completed so far.
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Last Edit: October 05, 2013, 04:48:30 am by Kaizaran
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^ As do I,  I feel like the sleeveless look would help give him that unique mix feeling. Glad to see Duracelleur's stuff get picked up as well, always loved his signature.
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#28  October 05, 2013, 09:46:12 pm
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I think it would look even better if Muteki could have Ryu's gloves.
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#29  October 06, 2013, 01:56:36 am
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I think I actually will do that, thanks!

Headband poll closed.
The winner is...no headband! Which is fine because it's what I was already doing. I'm now going to hold a poll that will determine the style of Muteki's outfit. You can vote above as always.
Please note that I am a person who tends to operate on bias and may end up going with Option 5 (Colossus-Style with gloves) because I like it most.
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Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 02:04:47 am by Kaizaran
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#30  October 06, 2013, 07:10:58 am
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man i am looking forward to this, good luck with it , awesome
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#31  October 06, 2013, 08:04:36 am
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I personally don't think He should be wearing Ryu's gloves, because it wouldn't make to much sense (story-wise). Bison himself doesn't wear gloves in combat, so I'd assume he wouldn't wear em' just because he's in Ryu's body. But then there's a chance that Bison would be like "Damn... these gloves are very stylish..." :P

I vote sleeveless with no gloves :D
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#33  October 08, 2013, 12:52:13 am
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The winner of this poll was Normal Bison Style in 1st, with Sleeveless with Gloves in 2nd. However, because I have an extreme bias in favor of Colossus-style with gloves [it's the most unique, guize], Palette 1 [A, if you're doing an ASDZXC setup] will be Colossus Style and Palette 4 [Z in my setup] will be Bison-style with gloves.

Now I know, I know, why have the poll if I'm going to overrule half of it? Honestly it's because I'm just crazy like that. Really depending on how you normally play, the Bison outfit is kind of like his default :D It's not like I'm gonna find a way to encrypt the def so that he ALWAYS has Colossus-style as palette 1, you can always move it around.
 
So, here's a preview of Muteki with color separation.

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I know his stomach looks weird but if you change the BG color to something darker then it just looks like muscle lines. On that gray BG it looks like his shirt is still there but skin-colored.

I added a poll on what you guys want Palette 2 to be, and I'll keep doing that up to Palette 12. Beyond that you guys can make palette packs and such.
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#34  October 11, 2013, 03:34:44 am
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Finished the palettes!
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If you'd like a template to make your own palettes beyond my basic 12, use the animated color-separated gif's posted by SanjiSasuke.
I have made twelve palettes as is the norm; Muteki, Evil Muteki, Ryu, M. Bison, Sevil Nahte, Carlos Blanka, Killer Bee Cammy, Sagat, Vega, Balrog, Morrigan, SFII Bison. I might make a palette pack with Chun-Li, Colossus, Dan, Akuma, Shin Akuma and Juli [Doll] palettes.
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#36  October 12, 2013, 02:44:09 am
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But of course.

From left to right: Normal Muteki, Evil Muteki, Ryu, M. Bison, Sevil Nahte, Carlos Blanka, Killer Bee Cammy, Sagat, Vega, Balrog, Morrigan Aensland, SFII Bison
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#37  October 12, 2013, 02:49:54 am
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You may want to use a darker tone for Muteki´s shoes in the Killer Bee palette. Right now it looks very bad.
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#38  October 12, 2013, 03:47:23 am
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If I do, then his hair will also be darkened. That is quite literally the only thing that hasn't been color separated. But I do see what you mean and have darkened it to a light brown [something like the Vega palette]
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#39  October 12, 2013, 03:52:08 am
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Oh, you used the boots colors of the original color separated bison sprites for his hair?? I see. Well, that answers my question.
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#40  October 13, 2013, 09:59:23 am
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Some of those palettes remind me of fist of the north star characters don't ask me why but they do but this project has my attention keep it up