The Mugen Fighters Guild - Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out)

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1941 May 04, 2015, 09:03:53 pm

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what

Segatron

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1942 May 04, 2015, 09:11:45 pm

MUGEN IS MY LIFE /I promise from not to derail.

That Artwork really making me happy right now!!!!
But Whats all that for Rape joke appeared to be just a joke and again Black widow's scene is made a huge issue when i dont think it is!

Esaka rules Beat that.... Or Just Get outta my way

Thedge

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1943 May 04, 2015, 09:16:05 pm

Lazy spriter
Demon in heaven gotta carry a knife

They feel the need to be offended by everything.

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Gennos

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1944 May 04, 2015, 09:39:30 pm

lol they turned on him.
it's sad really. i like him.

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Speedpreacher

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1945 May 04, 2015, 09:42:04 pm

The story begins with who's gonna win

I can't thick of a clearer case of "biting the hand that feeds you" in recent memory

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No one's getting out of here alive
This time
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This time
It's a shame we have to disappear
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walt

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1946 May 04, 2015, 10:13:09 pm

SNK is life

It may have ABSOLUTELY gone over my head. What's the Rape Joke in the movie?

Edit: NEVER MIND, PRIMA NOCTA, GOT IT. Also, Google "mewling quim avengers" to see what was the "sexist" joke Joss Whedon managed to sneak into the first Avengers movie

Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 10:21:32 pm by walt

Titiln

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1947 May 05, 2015, 12:27:26 am

Iced said, May 04, 2015, 08:59:06 pm

with the movie release in america, the outrage machine has found a new target.

lol

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Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 12:53:37 am by Titiln

Foobs

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1948 May 05, 2015, 01:10:23 am

90's Kawaii
:thinking:

Ha ha ha!
The whole neutering talk felt awkward, and figured it'd rub some people the wrong way, but I never imagined that would be enough to destroy Whedon's feminist cred instantaneously. I mean, there was hardly any outrage when he called Widow an archaic cunt in the last movie.

Iced

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1949 May 05, 2015, 01:12:27 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

I thought it made sense in the context, Banner had just told her he cant have kids, she is showing him that she cant as well. They stripped her of all they could to turn her into a killing machine.

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Byakko

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1950 May 05, 2015, 01:22:48 am

Sure it totally did, but the actual wording is what makes it sound off. She insists one line too many, and right after that comes the "it made it easier" comment that was taken as slut-shaming. It's like you were expecting her to keep going and draw him a picture. It made sense in context to say it, but it was at the limit of being a bit too much. Compared to Banner, he said it in two lines and that's because it was a big thing to admit. She was just hammering it twice as much as him.
I myself don't have anything against the scene, mind you, but I can easily see why it could feel uncomfortable.

Titiln said, May 05, 2015, 12:27:26 am

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEMbl-pWIAAy2f7.png:large

Oh... I don't get the "made Wanda a Nazi sympathizer" comment (probably a moron who didn't understand they were abducted, tortured, and pretty much brainwashed - but then again that's only clear because of the mid-credit scene of that previous movie where they were in a cage), but the comment on "the idea that women who can't bear children are monsters" actually is totally valid, since it's the entire point for the whole cast, that they're all monsters - and that's what Widow brings forward as her example. Good point...

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Foobs

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1951 May 05, 2015, 01:29:04 am

90's Kawaii
:thinking:

I know it makes sense in the context of the movie, "you're not alone/I'm aware we can't have a 'normal' relationship, but.../I've gone through nasty dehumanizing shit too" but it still feels awkward. If you were sitting in the movie theater and a couple in the back row had the same convo, it'd feel awkward too. I suppose that makes it a good scene.

Iced

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1952 May 05, 2015, 01:42:50 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

Well she was "raped" body and soul, they broke her and reformed her to a point where shes a killer with nothing to look forward to. It felt painful for her to admit the extent of what they did to her. I can understand it being an awkward point of comparison but the sterilization is just the last step of all the things that were done to her. I dunno if the mcu version also has genetic alterations done but in the comics she had several.

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Bea

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1953 May 05, 2015, 02:48:58 am

MUGEN Grandma

I am yet to see the film (bloody lack of 2D screenings), but yeah, as someone who can't get pregnant at all, from all that is being described, that scene will feel REALLY uncomfortable to watch.

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Xhominid

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1954 May 05, 2015, 03:21:42 am

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DKDC said, May 05, 2015, 01:22:48 am

Oh... I don't get the "made Wanda a Nazi sympathizer" comment (probably a moron who didn't understand they were abducted, tortured, and pretty much brainwashed - but then again that's only clear because of the mid-credit scene of that previous movie where they were in a cage), but the comment on "the idea that women who can't bear children are monsters" actually is totally valid, since it's the entire point for the whole cast, that they're all monsters - and that's what Widow brings forward as her example. Good point...

Well if I can take the other perspective, I think that Whedon had the right idea but may have flubbed it up and this is me not seeing the movie. For females, I can easily see that if you choose to have kids or not is a big decision. So to not have that decision at all can easily...well be like a massive hit to the stomach.
You will never get the choice at all and some people can easily take it the wrong way on top of that since abnormal can easily make you seem inhuman to some.

So I can see why Black Widow would see herself as a monster because some people would see themselves like that just being abnormal. But I can see others who have the same thing not liking the fact that it can be taken to them being seen as monsters.

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Iced

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1955 May 05, 2015, 11:35:19 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-hater-s-guide-to-avengers-age-of-ultron-1702062494/+charliejane

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Byakko

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1956 May 05, 2015, 11:42:50 am

Xhominid said, May 05, 2015, 03:21:42 am

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Yeah, it's a weird situation because on one hand, you have the arc that everyone thinks they are a monster, and on the other hand, you have that particular discussion with Banner revealing he can't have kids and Romanoff responding to that. I suppose her line should have been more something like "it's *just one of the things* they did *when* they made me into a weapon, a monster", rather than skipping and saying "I can't have kids, it made it easier to be a monster". It would also have blunted the slut-shaming subtext.

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DatKofGuy

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: DO NOT SPOIL movies that were just released.

#1957 May 05, 2015, 11:54:11 am

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Aspiring Sprite Animator

do SJW have to ruin everything? I mean are you really that bored with your life. God some of those comments were ridiculuous. "movie ruined my life" are you fucken serious. Its coz of stupid internet shit like this that I feel Ultron was right.