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Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS] (Read 383785 times)

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Long John Killer

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#741  November 03, 2017, 05:32:59 am
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...So goes every Pokémon generation?  Or well, games in general, as they're supposed to go anyways.  They made improvements on the last game for a new one.  I'd give you that it sure felt like there should have been more to do in Sun/Moon post-game, but on its own for the main portion it felt fine as a Pokémon game.  An acceptable amount of new enjoyable content, retooling some old issues and some meta changes.

I mean, something in Sun/Moon's possible favor is it's the canon story.  Ultra Sun/Moon are devised specifically to take a non-canon route.  You're not playing the same game, rather starting from the same point as the last one and going somewhere else.  Presumably, the next game in line will reflect on Sun/Moon's world and story outcomes rather than whatever nostalgia trip we're getting here from Giovanni and Friends.

Also on the latest trailer confirming previous leaks...I won't lie.  I have an attachment for Ruby and Sapphire's Archie and Maxie over Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire's over the top redesigns.  For most of Honen, to be quite frank.  The girl avatar, Wally, the Team Aqua and Magma subordinates, some of the actual Pokémon like the Aggron or Gardevoir line. (Though that's more the case of transitioning from 2D to 3D)  To go back to them after ORAS's reboot is quite nice, personally.  And in such a non-canon offshoot like this is probably preferable for those who liked the redesigns, as it won't last beyond this.

It also just occurs to me that confirming Giovanni now helps cement the connection to Gold and Silver.  His kid's a big focal point in those, due to Team Rocket falling to Red and then Giovanni taking a sabbatical.  In this timeline, if Giovanni's won (And apparently kept his hands on Mewtwo), Silver the character would be around as an adult working for him.  Would be an interesting encounter to run into him, maybe with a sullen Red and/or Blue?  They got the models from last game to put to better use, anyways.
Last Edit: November 03, 2017, 05:54:58 am by Long John Killer

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Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#742  November 08, 2017, 05:54:58 am
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So, review copies are out now and leaks are starting to get crazy.
Spoiler: LEGIT STUFF, READ AT YOUR RISK (click to see content)
Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 06:17:02 am by NamelessOnlinePlayer

Ricepigeon

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#743  November 08, 2017, 06:29:35 am
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Name dumps courtesy of SciresM and Kaphotics:

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Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#744  November 08, 2017, 06:34:47 am
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Okay, on one hand, I kinda of regret looking at that spoiler.... On the other hand, I'm even MORE hyped for US/UM!

Seriously, all of these things just make me want the game even more now.

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#745  November 08, 2017, 07:41:42 am
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Huge spoiler regarding Necrozma's new forms:

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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 07:46:02 am by Ricepigeon

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Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#746  November 08, 2017, 02:35:23 pm
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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 02:43:01 pm by _Data_Drain_

Kirishima

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#747  November 08, 2017, 02:49:13 pm
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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 02:59:21 pm by Kirishima

Ricepigeon

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#748  November 08, 2017, 04:05:17 pm
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As if lowering Mega Beedrill's defense to an absurdly low 15 wasn't enough, they gave Stakataka only 13 speed.

I know the damn thing is a literal wall with shitty typing but damn they're trying way too hard.

Also:

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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 04:39:23 pm by Ricepigeon

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Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#749  November 08, 2017, 04:08:50 pm
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Ricepigeon said, November 08, 2017, 07:41:42 am
Huge spoiler regarding Necrozma's new forms:

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just like how in pokemon black 2 and white 2, you'll get the dna splicer where you can fuse kyurem with reshiram or zekrom to form black and white kyurem

Kirishima

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#750  November 08, 2017, 04:22:13 pm
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Ricepigeon said, November 08, 2017, 04:05:17 pm
As if lowering Mega Beedrill's defense to an absurdly low 15 wasn't enough, they gave Stakataka only 13 speed.

I know the damn thing is a literal wall with shitty typing but damn they're trying way too hard.
I like to point out that this thing is slower than Torkoal.

Has its VGC niche.

Ricepigeon

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#751  November 08, 2017, 04:53:42 pm
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Some story spoilers:

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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 04:58:45 pm by Ricepigeon

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Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#752  November 08, 2017, 05:06:12 pm
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that's interesting lusamine is still the main antagonist but instead of using nebby to go into the wormhole making ultra space her home, here she's kinda like lysandre where she blames a legendary pokemon for destroying their home but it's her beautiful paradise instead of the pokemon world

Ricepigeon

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#753  November 08, 2017, 05:31:05 pm
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Non-spoiler stuff:

Riolu/Lucario now gets Meteor Mash as an egg move
Kommo-o now gets Close Combat as an egg move, along with Drain Punch, Low Kick, Stealth Rock, Endeavor, and the elemental punches as tutors
Ribombee and Araquinid now get Sticky Web as an egg move
Buzzwole now gets Drain Punch as a tutor
Linoone now gets Extreme Speed as an egg move (previously an event-exclusive move)
Toxapex now gets Iron Defense as a tutor
Tapu Bulu now gets Synthesis as a tutor
Mimikyu now gets Let's Snuggle Forever as its exclusive Z-move (190BP physical Fairy, uses Play Rough as the base move)

Long John Killer

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#754  November 08, 2017, 06:49:01 pm
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Avoiding the spoilers, I can wait for the actual game.  Egg and tutor moves are good to know, though.  Now I know I can hold off on breeding a shiny Kommo-o or Lucario until finishing these games, Meteor Mash and Close Combat or Drain Punch sounds good on each of them.  Thanks.

Ricepigeon

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#755  November 08, 2017, 07:13:17 pm
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More datamined stuff:

Non-spoiler:
https://pastebin.com/raw/yy8wTD0G
Rotom, Tapu Koko, Hydreigon, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus(!!) all get Defog as a tutor move.

New evolution methods added to obtain Kantonian Raichu, Kantonian Exeggutor, and Kantonian Marowak from Alolan-bred Pikachu/Exeggcute/Cubone, respectively.

Spoiler:
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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 07:36:28 pm by Ricepigeon

Ricepigeon

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#756  November 09, 2017, 03:41:51 am
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Another major story spoiler:

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drewski90

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#757  November 09, 2017, 03:53:37 am
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Ricepigeon said, November 08, 2017, 07:13:17 pm
More datamined stuff:

Non-spoiler:
https://pastebin.com/raw/yy8wTD0G
Rotom, Tapu Koko, Hydreigon, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus(!!) all get Defog as a tutor move.

New evolution methods added to obtain Kantonian Raichu, Kantonian Exeggutor, and Kantonian Marowak from Alolan-bred Pikachu/Exeggcute/Cubone, respectively.

Spoiler:
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so in sun and moon have 3 of the 4 trial captains being members of the elite four with only one new member, now in ultra sun and ultra moon, we have 2 trial captains being members of the elite four and 2 new members of the elite four

Ricepigeon

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#758  November 09, 2017, 04:49:54 am
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You know that stuff was originally put in spoilers for a reason, ya know?

Spoiler-ish Necrozma stuff:
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R565

Re: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon [3DS]
#759  November 17, 2017, 02:05:10 am
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Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 02:19:33 am by R565

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#760  November 17, 2017, 05:05:04 pm
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After clearing the Rainbow Rocket storyline:

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And for some non-spoiler stuff; you are able to catch an unlimited number of the original 7 Ultra Beasts, as their spawn flag resets each time you enter their respective Ultra Space areas. The only Ultra Beasts that have a limited number available are Blacephalon, Stakataka, and Poipole/Naganadel.
Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 05:11:08 pm by Ricepigeon
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