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**NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#1  June 08, 2018, 11:56:41 pm
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RETROVERSUS!!!! UPDATE 2.5 IS OUT NOW! NEW CHARACTERS, STAGES, FIXES AND MORE.....GET HERE.
FEATURING

GHOST RIDER
DEADPOOL
ZERO
Q
AND MANY MORE NEW FEATURED FIGHTERS!!!!







WEEKLY PLAY VIDEOS




I bring to you RETRO-VERSUS 2.5
OVER 156 STAGES
OVER 120 FIGHTERS
NEW TAG SYSTEM
NEW MOVES
TAG ESCAPE
Refined combat system
4K mode available
Faux 4player mode available

System Requirements
OpenGL 3.1
2gb Ram
Light VERSION of the game available.

I ACCIDENTLY LEFT THE VOLUME ON OFF....PLEASE TURN ON IN OPTIONS MENU AND CLICK SAVE

NORMAL VERSION
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n16s1910gqc393s/RETROVERSUS_2.5.rar/file

LIGHT VERSION
http://www.mediafire.com/file/j7na0d9ub4jshuh/RetroVersus+Light+2.5.rar

HAVING PROBLEMS LOADING IT- LOWER THE SCREEN RESOLUTION TO 640X480

Gameplay fixes, new characters, refined combat, new stages, new music.......SUPPORT ME..THANKSSSS
Last Edit: June 18, 2018, 05:33:02 pm by Ace-Million
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#2  June 09, 2018, 10:08:36 pm
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I've got a couple of complaints with this release:
1. Geese and Strong Guy's portraits are the most irrelevant imo. Geese's is his 'Young Geese' port from KOF Neowave and Strong Guy's is some Dragon fanart.
2. Violent Ken has some voice samples from his Normal Ken form.
3. Evil Ryu is called Shin Ryu instead.
4. Some characters (Ken and Ryo for example) don't have their normal palettes.
Last Edit: June 10, 2018, 11:59:14 am by HyperClawManiac
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#3  June 11, 2018, 06:33:45 am
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very good MUGEN game. good job. got it
thank you
I want to read characters but it packed
How can i read the chars file?   characters input command files.
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#4  June 12, 2018, 11:49:08 pm
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Thank you means alot! You cant read the files because its packed. I'm sorry, but all moves are particularly the same motions with all characters, anyone, in particular, you want to know more about ask me. :) Im sure to help
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#5  June 19, 2018, 07:35:31 pm
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Q1: WHy it at so big file to download at even light version? Some what 2 gb??
q2: What Mugen you used?
q3: How many these are YOUR own thinks?
q4: What one is... at yours style in Select.def?

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#6  June 19, 2018, 08:54:32 pm
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Q1: WHy it at so big file to download at even light version? Some what 2 gb??
q2: What Mugen you used?
q3: How many these are YOUR own thinks?
q4: What one is... at yours style in Select.def?

Music, stages, characters = BIGFILE

MUGEN 1.1

WTF? my own thoughts? as in techs? or characters? They have all been re-done to fit this game, completely, no one is the same.
(I did not sprite any character) some sprites were added from google or other existing mugen characters or sprites.

All characters are the same fighting style...
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#7  June 19, 2018, 10:59:15 pm
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Umm dude. :)
would it be possible to just download the updated stuff?

Or is it to protect your creations frome getting taken? :)

Keep it real, keep it original
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#8  June 20, 2018, 08:39:13 am
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Yeah STOP packing this into molebox. You're using other people's works. Stop being a dick. These people didn't molebox. You took from them and now you say people cannot take from you.

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#9  June 20, 2018, 08:51:58 am
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Aye.. So.. Is that music for the stage really Bobby Brown? ayeee ha
Also I think it'd be interesting to finally set in stone what people are/aren't able to claim as "mine" as everything derived from an official source can not truly belong to anyone. I.E an edited image. Things of that nature. Also how molebox has been a thing for idk how long, now its a dick move.
Last Edit: June 20, 2018, 09:35:43 am by ;x
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#10  June 20, 2018, 09:44:31 am
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split the archive please. its too big
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#11  June 20, 2018, 01:27:28 pm
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Aye.. So.. Is that music for the stage really Bobby Brown? ayeee ha
Also I think it'd be interesting to finally set in stone what people are/aren't able to claim as "mine" as everything derived from an official source can not truly belong to anyone. I.E an edited image. Things of that nature. Also how molebox has been a thing for idk how long, now its a dick move.

he took sprites and coding that people worked hard on creating from scratch like all of team z2's stuff that's in there, some of which JnP spent years doing. the least he can do is not it lock up.

molebox has always been a dick move in most cases to most people except for a few projects that literally cannot be taken out of regular mugen whatsoever. people complained when IMT did this stuff a decade ago, now they released a version of their latest game specifically with all the stuff unlocked, people will still complain now.
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#12  June 20, 2018, 02:53:48 pm
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I’ve always thought molebox was a dick move. I’ve said it before. But it’s worse on a project like this and irritates me even more because my work is locked. Everything I do is meant to be open source. Taking my work that is meant to help people and locking it up isn’t cool
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#13  June 20, 2018, 03:20:56 pm
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I’ve always thought molebox was a dick move. I’ve said it before. But it’s worse on a project like this and irritates me even more because my work is locked. Everything I do is meant to be open source. Taking my work that is meant to help people and locking it up isn’t cool

Listen I can't please everyone, I offered to release you characters separately when you came to me about this before.. My characters will break any normal Mugen period I spoke to you about this. I also have already released all my characters before, every single one is already out.

*Here is all my characters get them if you want*
https://BLACKLISTED WEBSITE.com/forums/downloads.php?do=cat&id=95-mvc-arrange&page=8

My stages for my new game is not locked, all the music, file.def everything is literally up for grabs. I have done hundreds of stages and released them and now I'm hounded for a character that already been edited and is open source? Like what do you want me to do? I have worked so hard on every single character in this game and to come at me like I'm just throwing ppl in and trying to discredit anything is ridiculous. I'm sure you don't even enjoy the game to care if the character is locked or not. I don't want a million emails of people now telling me to edit my characters over because they don't work in their mugen. Plus your original characters the tow Z2s is 100% better suited for normal Mugen, and if anyone wanted them again look above. I do streaming, and editing from what people find, when they are playing my game it's easier to know these characters have only been edited by me, that way I can fix them...I really wish we get off this bad guy good guy thing start back appreciating the artist and trying to help each other curate something special. It seems like every post I have you try to bring yourself in and do this? What can I do to fix it. You want me to personally send you the characters so you can release, or you can get them above, they have been released a long time ago. *mugen archive* or just google acemillion characters...Like i said they will not work in normal mugen... Even though this post is big its no hard feelings and I really would like feedback, gameplay videos, and help from you guys to making this project the best it can be. That is truly my only intentions.
Last Edit: June 20, 2018, 03:25:57 pm by Ace-Million
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#14  June 20, 2018, 03:36:43 pm
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I just don’t want you moleboxing chars that are not your own. I don’t get why that’s hard to understand. Add a disclaimer that they won’t work outside of your game and it’ll make things easier for everyone.
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#15  June 20, 2018, 03:47:11 pm
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I just don’t want you moleboxing chars that are not your own. I don’t get why that’s hard to understand. Add a disclaimer that they won’t work outside of your game and it’ll make things easier for everyone.

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DISCLAIMER: Characters will not work outside of this mugen!
MOLEBOXED
If you are seeking my characters personal files - they were taken and released on Mugen archive or you can google ACEMILLION CHARACTERS and Stages

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#16  June 20, 2018, 03:48:19 pm
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I think its just the thought of, but I feel you on the damned if you do, damned if you don't. You probably just do it, as it gives it a more authentic feel, so no one will edit the game or what have you. While either argument is valid, with the recent discovery of the unmolebox thingy I didn't think it'd really matter as anyone could just unbox it. Sometimes people just say things just to say it, tilt, spite etc, but this isn't it in this case. For original characters(sprites included) I think that's where the line is where you can legitimately ask, but even then its not mandated. I've seen people attack people for doing commissions to seeing it being supported on the board. That's why I was saying it ought to be settled because from past experience it has been not what, but who.
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#17  June 20, 2018, 04:10:00 pm
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Umm dude. :)
would it be possible to just download the updated stuff?

Or is it to protect your creations frome getting taken? :)

Hey Peng....the problem is every character was updated with multiple things...So this one is a full patch.
I did some new adjustments to tag, new adjustments to special gauges, and air combo/launching and otg properties.


To the other posters, Sorry didn't know how to double quote.

When the words "own" gets thrown into mugen...I have to separate myself from it. Its literally what built mugen and any creator knows that...We all could be hit with lawsuits if that was the case. I cant give any more energy to the negative side of Mugen anymore. Download the game enjoy it, help me make it better, anything else. I cant care about, or give energy too, just making this game took long enough.... let alone this update. Like I said anyone that would like to be credited or have their characters released that I edited/created/full game. Please let me know... But also check MugenArchieve as they may already be released. I'm just trying to share my mugen to everyone, I hate that it's always about something else. Let's get back to creating and not arguing every single post. *Also these characters if you played the game, has been edited so much, it wouldn't even be recognizable to the original author, and that is not to discredit them what so over.*And I'm definitely not saying that my edits are better*

Its moleboxed and will continue to be, and I will start to put a disclaimer on it. I have worked on each and every aspect of characters that listed in my game and no one will discredit me from that. So with that being said, how do you like the update?
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#18  June 20, 2018, 04:49:00 pm
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Fair. I was just wondering.
I'll take a look when I get home. :)

Keep it real, keep it original
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#19  June 20, 2018, 05:09:53 pm
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The site you host it on unpacked also wants the HDBZ devs to quit. That site is blacklisted here for many reasons. I don’t know why you wish to molebox works based off other people but whatever. Please remove HDBZ stuff. Especially things I code. Piccolo, Goku, ssj Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks are all coded by me.

If you don’t, well whatever. I’m not going on a crusade or anything. This is the last energy I’ll put into this. It just seems very hypocritical of you to lock the files of chars that were open for you to edit. I wasn’t taking anything away from the work you added. I just find it in terrible taste to lock the files. Telling anyone to go to MA is bad too but I wasn’t even trying to get into that.
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#20  June 20, 2018, 07:04:23 pm
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Fair. I was just wondering.
I'll take a look when I get home. :)

Fair. I was just wondering.
I'll take a look when I get home. :)

Thanks Peng


JustNoPoint:
No disrespect but I didn't ask to have my stuff was unpacked there. Someone has unpacked my game on this site(mugenguild) and boasted about doing so. I said you could google it also, idk about all this blacklisting crap, they want you to quit working. That's above my pay grade. lol

I wish you would have left a disclaimer before you released anything especially it being open sourced. I asked you did you want me to release the characters here, instead you tell me either make my full game unmoleboxed or be punished!! Like really understand your approach, I'm not removing the characters, we talked about this a whole year ago, you could have asked me then. I'm not about to just destroy it after taking them out before and you saying I didn't have to do that. You are literally the only person asking why is it moleboxed, its already unmolebox i keep it this way to stop rogue edits and videos online where it won't accurately portray the game. I said this 1000x times, I have Gohan and Piccolo in this game, for the longest and its always been moleboxed and been out for years at this point. I have worked too hard on getting them to fit right. If you want them released to the public cool, I can do that, but you cant threaten me to unmolebox the full project or delete them out...That's just trashy. So if you will like Piccolo and Gohan unmoleboxed on the next release I wouldn't mind doing that and having them in their own folder. And if I find another character to fit in their spot I will delete them, but right now, I cant do that, it's unfair and goes against why we do this. I played so many full games with my stages in them, molebox and unmolebox and when I tell you its not something you want to try to fight for it's not even worth it. Im not trying to have this problem every single time I release this game, So like I offered a year ago if moleboxing YOUR edits is an issue. I can resolve that be releasing them today. PLEASE TELL ME YOU ATLEAST PLAYED THIS GAME!  :argue:


So if the resolution can be resolved with you getting the characters you coded released fine, no one else has mentioned or asked for Gohan or Piccolo (not saying they are not awesome)but I can surely release them...If not, then come give me a hug bro, take a beer or coke, and a breather, cause my hands hurt from texting too much. 

Help me make this game better, help keep the community worth visiting, lets stop arguing about things, thats over both of us. People truely steal work moleboxing has always been a practice more so to keep a full game intact. My characters will suck a** outside of it, or just literally fall into abyss as soon as you dash. lol even on the archive people are complaining about my characters outside of my game breaks their mugen, of course, it does....lol. But bro, I wish you the best in all honesty and still a fan of you guys work...Whether this turns into a 2pac style beef or ends here im not pushing this issue any further. rr

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#21  June 20, 2018, 07:47:13 pm
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He doesn't care about you releasing characters. It's really just a respect thing. Just as MA takes permissions for everyone stuff, takes away our opportunity to do so, much like anything pirated. He wants everything related to their stuff be as it was released by "them", open source. I get it, especially when its original sprites, etc. Not owned by any company. It sucks, but, if you don't pay any mind to it, it won't matter. This is literally what mugen is. You can't stop it once its online.

Aye & I know it feels like "it doesn't matter" "he is overreacting" let it happen to you & see that it doesn't make you feel some type of way, justified or not.
Last Edit: June 20, 2018, 07:54:54 pm by ;x
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#22  July 21, 2018, 11:18:18 am
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when i click the mugen exe it just open then closes. no errors or nothing. just open and closes. sf perfect never did that to me. this retro old and new does this when trying to play game. what do i need to do to run it ?

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M.U.G.E.N ver 1.1.0 Beta 1 P1 (2013.08.11) status log
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Parsing command line...
Command line: C:\Users\platn\Desktop\RETROVERSUS 2.5\mugen.exe.exe
Parse command line OK
Initializing...
Allocating game variables
Reading configuration file...Setting language "en".
OK
Initializing timer...performance timer enabled...frequency 2437502...OK
Initializing keyboard...configuring...OK
Initializing input engine...OK
Initializing sound...OK
Initializing BGM...  OK
Initializing graphics...gameCoord 1920x1080...render mode 2_22...trying 1920x1080x32 mode 0x0...

i dl the big boy version.
Intel Core i5 (7th Gen) 7300HQ / 2.5 GHz
gtx 1050 ti 8 gig
8 gig ram

is this were i change the resolution ?

;Game native width and height.
 ;Recommended settings are:
 ;  640x480   Standard definition 4:3
 ; 1280x720   High definition 16:9
 ; 1920x1080  Full HD 16:9
GameWidth =  1920
GameHeight = 1080

the first retro ran on entry level amd gaming laptop. ever since i got a better one they dont run at all. i played around with the resolutions and render modes, nothing works. it just open and then closes, no error message or anything. is it nvidia graphics card ?
Last Edit: July 22, 2018, 04:46:41 am by bwoods81
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#23  July 25, 2018, 07:12:06 am
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Try the light version it comes without the graphics engine. Windows 10 did an update that made it difficult for certain people to run SweetFx. Thats all it is bro. If you still have problems let me know so we can get it fixed for you.


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#24  July 26, 2018, 08:16:17 am
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aite bet. im salty i have to use the light version. it is what it is. im look into that SweetFx. if i can find the update id remove that sob unless it was one of the critical ones. thanks for the info.

the light version works flawless but i want to play the big dog version. if you find a fix or work around let me know please. the light version will get me buy until i can play the main one.
Last Edit: July 26, 2018, 09:06:25 am by bwoods81
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#25  July 27, 2018, 01:45:54 am
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Wowzers the haters were out.... and none was about the gameplay... so that a good thing right? lmfao

AND... Molebox is for noobs to not break your game.... like the developer options... you gotta know how to turn that on...

anywayz good job Ace... and that Album is dope too.
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#26  July 31, 2018, 08:13:00 pm
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hey, bwoods just go and get the sweetfx graphics engine and install it to retro versus and I can tell you how to put it back on 4k. Also are you the guy that has this problem on youtube? Sounds like the same exact question

Thanks Unomic for checking out the album and understanding and trying out the game, I don't think this was haters just a misunderstanding, and a different outlook between creators, I'm sure its all in the love of Mugen and art.

P.s. we had a big stream yesterday from gaming fbook channel if you guys are interested and in staying updated with retro versus please send me facebook request.

Im also, still working to find issues or problems or fixes so if you come across any, leave them here so I can fix them.
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#27  August 09, 2018, 11:12:18 am
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#28  August 11, 2018, 02:50:49 pm
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Its fairly simple. Once you download it*Google SweetFx* youjust apply it to the game directory. Best to look up a tutorial pn what configurations to use...Keep in my mind my 4k mugen has it already installed the resolution could be lowered to where you maybe can run the high end version
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#29  August 12, 2018, 07:34:59 pm
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Having a lot of fun toying around with the game. 

Have you had any problem with the bottoms of the stages showing during Supers?  Anytime I perform a super it happens.   I did have to drop my resolution to get it to play (1280x800)  Would that have any bearing on the issue?
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#30  August 13, 2018, 03:06:49 am
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Having a lot of fun toying around with the game. 

Have you had any problem with the bottoms of the stages showing during Supers?  Anytime I perform a super it happens.   I did have to drop my resolution to get it to play (1280x800)  Would that have any bearing on the issue?

Yes, that would hurt the fidelity of the stages, but I don't see why 1280 by 720 would work for you. Have you tried that or 800x600 that definition you applied isn't a standard one

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#31  August 13, 2018, 06:56:39 am
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new to all this, tried to start it up and i get a pop up notification saying everything was good except "game coord 1920x1080... render mode 2_22...trying 1920x1080 mode 0x0... failed"
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#32  August 13, 2018, 05:39:19 pm
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new to all this, tried to start it up and i get a pop up notification saying everything was good except "game coord 1920x1080... render mode 2_22...trying 1920x1080 mode 0x0... failed"

Change the resolution in mugen to 1280 x720 you seem to have downloaded the heavy version...Maybe you should try light if that resolution doesn't work for you.
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#33  August 14, 2018, 04:06:54 am
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welp, i tried. the resolution thing helped. it atleast stopped the error message. no response from the empty select screen that opens up now. anyways, good job man. the game looked cool on the youtube video.
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#34  August 14, 2018, 10:15:39 pm
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Having a lot of fun toying around with the game. 

Have you had any problem with the bottoms of the stages showing during Supers?  Anytime I perform a super it happens.   I did have to drop my resolution to get it to play (1280x800)  Would that have any bearing on the issue?

Yes, that would hurt the fidelity of the stages, but I don't see why 1280 by 720 would work for you. Have you tried that or 800x600 that definition you applied isn't a standard one



That fixed it!  1280x720 was exactly what it needed.  Thanks!
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#35  August 15, 2018, 02:45:11 pm
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welp, i tried. the resolution thing helped. it atleast stopped the error message. no response from the empty select screen that opens up now. anyways, good job man. the game looked cool on the youtube video.

Hmmm, make sure you are clicking the red mugen icon- that say RETROVERSUS. I dont know why you have an empty select screen, are you using an official download release of my game?

Also try the light version, your windows10 could possibly disagree with the graphics that are applied.
Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 02:50:30 pm by Ace-Million
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#36  August 15, 2018, 04:21:58 pm
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Yo ace. Would you be willing to release the screen pack separately?
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#37  August 25, 2018, 04:26:50 am
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#38  August 26, 2018, 04:08:42 pm
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Love the dedication you have to your game.  Have yet to see a complete game rival yours.

Any plans on making a version just strictly like POTS?  No juggles or any of that. Game is incredibly fast and hard for me to keep up hehe.

Good luck on your next update.
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#39  September 10, 2018, 07:35:38 pm
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I wanna clarify what I'm about to say right now because I wanna avoid being criticized for something that has no real weight in this world:

Don't take it pesonal nor take it as an insult, it's just a point of view and the way I see it.
And also, I'm not against nor in favor of anyone in this topic or the whole forum, ok?
I do respect every single post, creation or whatever might be here.
I REALLY REALLY wish I was talented enough to do things on my own just to be able to give even if it was a little something back to every person that created amazing characters, stages, music and everything else in here.

To begin with, MUGEN is an open source FREE coding program.
NO ONE of every single user here paid for MUGEN ever (at least, as far as I can tell).
Whatever you do with it, comes directly from your imagination and capabilities with it... coding, creation, sprite ripping or making your own sprites, etc.
Now... there's a thin red line between all terms on properties and creations. Why? Simple: most of the works in here come from different sources that were previously created by companies such as Capcom, SNK, Arc Systems, Midway (now Nether Realm studios if you wanna call it other way), Konami, etc.

So... to make it shorter: NONE of the works belong to anyone since they're completely based on something that existed before (only original creations from scratch could be called an exception here).
You can't go on every post claiming "this is mine" or "don't steal my job" because it was someone else's in the first place.
What would everyone do if Capcom & the gang came in here and said "hey, you know what... I wanna get paid for every single sound, sprite or stage you took from my games"?
Just to mention one of the possible worst case scenarios. If Bandai Namco or TOEI came here, they would shred everything in a matter of seconds.

What do I mean with all this? Well... if something is OPEN SOURCE do not complain later when it gets taken by others.
Why did you create it in the first place if you don't want to share it? Or why did you even release it? Keep it for your own use and only share screenshots or videos and that's it... no problem whatsoever.

And as for coding and credits on something anyone could've done... you should be claiming credit was given for it. Nothing else.
I don't really believe in things like "this is my creation" on a open source environment.
My opinion on that is just the same as above: didn't belong to you in the first place.
As long as the one who makes something out of it is not gaining a profit, making money or not recognizing your work, there's no reason to get pissed.

Finally... moleboxing and encryption on data... well, that's a low blow. Even if your edits do not work on any other MUGEN version, that's not yours to decide.
Even if you edited everything to fit properly... it wasn't done by you initially. If the creator didn't encrypt data... why would you?
At least, respect the original desire of who released his/her work as an open source in the first place.

Again: don't get angry. It's just how I see it.
I really love MUGEN, the idea of playing or seeing characters and things that normally companies don't do in one place... but I'm aware that EVERYTHING is done by heart. And as much as it can hurt seeing your work reflected somewhere else and claimed as someone else's job... it's something you can't avoid happening.
Only thing you can blame Ace in here if you want, is probably not mentioning on a disclaimer that characters were not his entirely and that credit goes to every editor. That's all.

And believe me... I've been in places where people stole my job and even got promoted at the office for something they didn't do... but as the phrase goes: shit happens.
Either you let it go and be fine with it or put lawyers and start legal actions over copyrights. But make sure you didn't modify something from any other company first... otherwise, legal actions are going against you instead.

Editors, creators and "compilers" (I call them that way when they put different works done by others in the same place) are their own bosses in here.
And I respect every single piece of work done a lot. I know what it means to be doing something for so long just to get discredited (does this word even exist in english? :P)... but feel proud that someone is using it for a good cause.
I feel Ace haven't done nothing wrong as any other in this topic did either.

Peace and keep it up, guys.
We're a community, not empires who want to destroy each other for power and control.
Last Edit: September 10, 2018, 07:43:04 pm by Arkillo1985
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#40  September 11, 2018, 03:34:44 am
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Okay I had eyes on this for a while now and I wanna ask anyone who has tried it already..

Is it worth playing? Tis good or anything?
To play or not to play: That is the question...
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#41  September 11, 2018, 04:20:47 am
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Okay I had eyes on this for a while now and I wanna ask anyone who has tried it already..

Is it worth playing? Tis good or anything?

I tried the previous release and it was cool, but now I see Ace added characters and tweaked stuff... so it could be better.
Gotta test it later.
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#42  September 11, 2018, 01:52:50 pm
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To play or not to play: That is the question...
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#43  September 15, 2018, 01:19:59 am
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You should give the game a try. Its really dope but im bias. lol...
Check out some of the reviews online and see if it fits the type of game you like first. Thanks again

If you have any questions im here. Every so often
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#44  September 15, 2018, 02:35:06 pm
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You should give the game a try. Its really dope but im bias. lol...
Check out some of the reviews online and see if it fits the type of game you like first. Thanks again

If you have any questions im here. Every so often

What reviews? Sources please.
To play or not to play: That is the question...
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#45  September 16, 2018, 01:35:40 pm
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You should give the game a try. Its really dope but im bias. lol...
Check out some of the reviews online and see if it fits the type of game you like first. Thanks again

If you have any questions im here. Every so often

What reviews? Sources please.

Geez... is this IGN or Gamespot?
We live in the 21st century, dude. Just download the file and play it. No better judge than yourself.
Plus... if I'm able to download it in like 10 minutes as much (and living in a shitty country as I do, with shitty internet services) why would it take that much for you to download it too?
No offense intended, but you're asking for something you can do on your own.
Give some value to Ace's hard work.
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#46  September 27, 2018, 07:48:09 pm
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I just want to add my two cents here. Ace is an awesome creator and he has a unique take on fighting game mechanics that he is sharing with us. Please if you download this game give it a good try, dont expect a traditional MVC or Arc System Works game. This is a beast of its own. If it is not for you then cool, but dont go btchn around about it, give constructive feedback so Ace can improve this gem. Also, the experience really lifts up when you plave versus someone else. When you understand and learn the mechanics (if you are a fan of fighting games it isnt that hard, the skill tree is not that big) you appreciate even more that someone has spent so much time thinking and forging this kind of game. So let us all enjoy projects like this and be thankful with the creators. Give this game a try its awesome!
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#47  October 03, 2018, 07:32:54 pm
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Wow guys thank you...I really appreciate the kind words. I am in some tough classes at the moment so updates take a little longer. I have fixed somethings here and there and updated alot of the movements and overall things that were issues, mostly character specific. If you guys find anything please post them here or in a video and it will 100% be fixed. I want this project as stellar as possible.
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
#48  October 03, 2018, 09:53:22 pm
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Wow guys thank you...I really appreciate the kind words. I am in some tough classes at the moment so updates take a little longer. I have fixed somethings here and there and updated alot of the movements and overall things that were issues, mostly character specific. If you guys find anything please post them here or in a video and it will 100% be fixed. I want this project as stellar as possible.

Well I think the attacks are a little too fast as you don't have any time to react to the jabs. (Also did you fix that bug in Ryu when you cancel a Shinkuu Hadouken into itself?)
Edit: Found an infinite for Iron Man
Stand Z, Repulsor Blast, Dash Cancel
Hopefully someday I'll be able to make the little puffball on my profile pic.
(Sprite edited from Scrollboss' sprite)
Last Edit: October 03, 2018, 10:08:11 pm by jenngra505
Re: **NEW** RETROVERSUS 2.5 || AceMillion
New #49  October 04, 2018, 01:13:03 am
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Very hard to do that repulsar infinite but I changed the properties of it. So fixed now and Ryu shinkuu special stacking isnt a issue. Its part of the system many characters can stack thier hypers.

What do you mean react to jabs? You mean if you are hit you dont have time to react?
Last Edit: October 04, 2018, 06:21:19 am by Ace-Million