The Mugen Fighters Guild - 1.0 Projects section?

Orochi Gill

1.0 Projects section?

#1 July 14, 2010, 06:23:01 am

I am hilarious
and you will quote everything I say

Since Your Releases, 1.0 has been given Found and Edits subcategories, I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have a projects section for 1.0 material, just to neaten things up, and give a sense of clarification as to which mugen that the creation is being made for?

Thoughts?

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Average Mugen Guild Poster

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#2 July 14, 2010, 06:23:54 am

im finally just like everyone else

Interesting idea, might help with getting things on the right page.

fucking bad poster asshole that home32 bitch

Nucka

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#3 July 14, 2010, 06:44:52 am

I still think the 1.0 section should be scrapped all together and add MUGEN 1.0 to existing message icons. The MUGEN 1.0 part can sit above the main lettering and cut a few pixels higher than what the icons already are.
Message icons aren't limited to just 15 pixels in height.

Luis Alejandro

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#4 July 14, 2010, 07:00:06 am

DCB | Vato

^^no, mugen 1.0 has grown alot since the initial release and has releases(chars screenpacks etc) for it coming out more frequently

Nucka

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#5 July 14, 2010, 07:14:23 am

Yes, but I don't think it's different enough to warrant its own section. It would've been like opening a separate Hi-Res when Winmugen Plus came out.

Isn't 1.1 supposed to be completely incompatible? For that, you would open a new section.

Luis Alejandro

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#6 July 14, 2010, 07:16:51 am

DCB | Vato

mugen 1.0 is more different then when hr mugen came out because of the new coding and features that 1.0 offers plus its not a hack like those. Im not too sure about 1.1, but when it does release a simple name change can be done

Titiln

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#7 July 14, 2010, 07:22:25 am

The Doctor said, July 14, 2010, 06:44:52 am

I still think the 1.0 section should be scrapped all together and add MUGEN 1.0 to existing message icons. The MUGEN 1.0 part can sit above the main lettering and cut a few pixels higher than what the icons already are.
Message icons aren't limited to just 15 pixels in height.

this was considered but that'd be way too many goddamn icons

fanfictionimg

Nucka

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#8 July 14, 2010, 07:30:52 am

Ah, I forgot about the icon filter display. That could be remedied with a hovering dropdown menu gimmick.
You put your pointer on "Character" and you get "Charatcer", "Character Hi-Res", and "Character 1.0". That keeps it neat.

And on a similar note...what about HD releases? Shouldn't there be an HD icon for the 1.0 section?

Cyanide

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#9 July 14, 2010, 09:35:19 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

In 1.0 it doesn't matter. The HD and HR stuff works natively. You don't need a special version of mugen to run it.

In addition, treating the 1.0 stuff as "special" is the wrong way to go. Technically if you were going to differentiate with icons, you'd do it with the older version of mugen. We want to support Elecbyte with their current version, not hold onto the old one.

It is the "official" version of the engine after all.

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They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

Cybaster

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#10 July 14, 2010, 02:36:35 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

Only problem is with the 4:3 VS 16/9 stuff for 1.0, but I don't think there's any need to create special icons to differentiate this.
However, if we're going to keep LR and HR stages icons in 1.0 section, might as well add a HD one.

I don't think a 1.0 section for Projects is needed, as the differences are not subsequent enough. Plus, most people make their stuff compatible with both engines, in the sense that if the char is 1.0 only, it also includes a patch or something to make it compatible with old winmugen. (Kamekaze, Jmorphman, me, etc.)

Ricepigeon

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#11 July 14, 2010, 05:06:32 pm

Thanks and God bless

Cybaster said, July 14, 2010, 02:36:35 pm

Only problem is with the 4:3 VS 16/9 stuff for 1.0, but I don't think there's any need to create special icons to differentiate this.
However, if we're going to keep LR and HR stages icons in 1.0 section, might as well add a HD one.

Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt the whole purpose of the LR and HR stage icons for those who stuck with the old winmugen and those who use winmugen+? 1.0 doesnt have that distinction as it supports LR, HR, and HD. So if a stage is for 1.0 only then there is no real need to label it as LR, HR, or HD since it cant be run on older versions of MUGEN anyway. I could see this happening if the Older MUGEN and MUGEN 1.0 sections were merged into one, but if 1.0 is going to be kept separate then there is no need for multiple stage icons based on the stage's resolution.

Cybaster

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#12 July 14, 2010, 08:12:12 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

Yeah, you're right, but some people don't have a PC powerful enough to run HD stage (not that I care

).
In this case, Widescreen VS 4:3 would be the only distinction which could be done.

Nanashi_1337

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#13 July 14, 2010, 09:28:57 pm

Unity of Hearts

The main priority now should be to create images for each section. Just like the ones that the Winmugen place has. Or reuse the ones from that place. I hate to see just a white sheet there.

ExShadow

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#14 July 15, 2010, 12:09:22 am

JoJo is boring

Why not just have 1.0 in the topic title? That makes sense.

Orochi Gill

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#15 July 15, 2010, 12:13:21 am

I am hilarious
and you will quote everything I say

That could work, but what if the title is long enough to where this is not possible?

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ExShadow

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#16 July 15, 2010, 01:55:59 am

JoJo is boring

Hmm, I see what you mean

Nucka

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#17 July 15, 2010, 02:27:53 am

An HD stage has to be 16:9? I never looked into it.

Cyanide said, July 14, 2010, 09:35:19 am

Technically if you were going to differentiate with icons, you'd do it with the older version of mugen. We want to support Elecbyte with their current version, not hold onto the old one

You can code all resolutions to be 1.0 exclusive, so of course you need to differentiate releases with appropriate resolution icons.

The old one is still the leader now, where as most people are not using 1.0.
1.0 still needs to catch up.
Winmugen is to DVD as 1.0 is to BluRay.

Another thing that has to be considered is how many boards will there be once 1.1 comes out?

Sooner or later Old Mugen and 1.0 Mugen need to be merged.

Orochi Gill

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#18 July 15, 2010, 02:28:52 am

I am hilarious
and you will quote everything I say

Why screw with what works

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Foobs

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#19 July 15, 2010, 02:32:59 am

90's Kawaii
:thinking:

Later then. Elecbyte is not even done with the stable 1.0 yet, no point is worrying about 1.1 for now.

Last Edit: July 15, 2010, 02:36:58 am by Cyan Paul

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Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#20 July 15, 2010, 05:25:02 am

Spoiler
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The Doctor said, July 14, 2010, 06:44:52 am

I still think the 1.0 section should be scrapped all together and add MUGEN 1.0 to existing message icons. The MUGEN 1.0 part can sit above the main lettering and cut a few pixels higher than what the icons already are.
Message icons aren't limited to just 15 pixels in height.

totally agree with him in this statement

there's no need of other section, just new icons to recognize 1.0 projects

Zorf Giudecca

Cyanide

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#21 July 15, 2010, 06:11:05 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Won't matter. Elecbyte have stated that the code for older creations will continue to be supported but there will be a point where it is no longer added to. Ie, if you create something that's 1.0 it will still run on 1.1's system.

2.0 i'm not 100% sure about but even with the code change i think they're going to keep the older stuff available. They have a player base right now, removing that compatibility would basically make the engine start again.

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Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#22 July 15, 2010, 06:14:33 am

Fuck You.

My guess is that they're gonna have a compatibility patch for later versions (1.1, 2.0) akin to the "dos2win" program. It'd make alot of sense for creators who just wanna move their things.

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one by one they all just fade away...

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Ricepigeon

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#23 July 15, 2010, 06:30:56 am

Thanks and God bless

EXShadow said, July 15, 2010, 12:09:22 am

Why not just have 1.0 in the topic title? That makes sense.

If its in the 1.0 section then there is no reason for that. It's assumed to be for 1.0. If it were reverse compatible, it would be in the winmugen section. In my eyes, anything in the 1.0 section is not reverse compatible by default.

Duos.act

Re: 1.0 Projects section?

#24 July 15, 2010, 06:32:51 am

Palette God? Champion? AntiChrist? Something.
I AM THE KING OF PALETTES!!

The release section has similar rules to that. If posted in "Your Releases, Older Mugen" it usually means it works with both. If posted in "Your Releases, Mugen 1.0" it is usually exclusive to that.

As far as a 1.0 projects section. I'm kind of on the fence. It seems a bit pointless to me, but then again...eh why not?