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Ryu Update:September 2019 (4th Update)
#1  August 21, 2019, 08:32:42 pm
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===<Late August(Post-RagingRowen's Update 2019>===
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2nd Update:
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3rd Update:
- Metsu Shoryuken has a small aesthetic change
  -Ryu.def Metsu Shoryuken has remapping palette effect with palette fx during remapping.
  -NormalRyu.def has glowing palette fx due to no Evil Ryu palette available to remap with.
- Metsu Shoryuken can be performed by Evil Ryu by D,DF,F,D,DB,B,2k
- Removed Aura like the past-games(SFZ2-CVS2) iterations
- Removed Classic Kuuchu Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku for Normal Ryu
- Balanced out Damage of Shoryuken
- Impeferct Shin Shoryuken damage increased
- Shin Shoryuken damage decreased
- Sounds Added in some moves
- SF4 Voices have been removed for CVS lines

Revert to CVS Update:
- Fixed Midnight Bliss Animation
- Removed Moves like (Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki, Reppuu Jinrai Shou, Seichuu Nidan Tsuki)
 to have focus for Street Fighter and CvS mixed moveset.
- Ashura Senkuu is reverted back to 2p/2k button
- A.I Fix (still not new, only fixes super cancels)
- Removed Super Text in Shun Goku Satsu Kanji Background

To Do:
-Better and Updated AI
-Option for Denjin as LV2 Super with Mixed Properties of SF5 and SF3
-Extended Color Seperation
-EX Ryu(?)
-Normal Ryu only mode fixed Evil Ryu palette when remapping palette during Metsu Shoryuken
-OG Shakunetsu Hadouken
-SF5/SF4 Voice Pack clean and repacked



Thanks to:
RagingRowen: for his edit of my edit of mrwly's edit
PotS: for the OG Character
Victorys: for the CS Sprites and Shin Messatsu Goushoryu Move codes
MFG for supporting and giving feedback
Last Edit: September 20, 2019, 11:50:49 am by 1.8.7

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#2  August 21, 2019, 08:49:51 pm
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Welcome back dude !

Your link is broken though.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#3  August 21, 2019, 08:53:16 pm
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I'm not fully back but thanks. ^_^

Link fixed.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#4  August 21, 2019, 08:55:11 pm
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Aye 1.8.7 welcome back ! If you plan to update ryu once more i got some cs'ed sfv basics laying around,i wanted to edit ryu myself but i can't code for shit,i was gonna release them as a resource eventually with more custom ryu sprites

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#5  August 21, 2019, 09:01:29 pm
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KOFHERO77 said, August 21, 2019, 08:55:11 pm
Aye 1.8.7 welcome back ! If you plan to update ryu once more i got some cs'ed sfv basics laying around,i wanted to edit ryu myself but i can't code for shit,i was gonna release them as a resource eventually with more custom ryu sprites

I do plan to update him more but mostly on how he feels as the lore "Ryu" along with balanced gameplay elements
Please do release the sprites, I may use them on EX Ryu for his 2.5D/3D-mode move variants if I didn't lazy again.

Hope you enjoy this Edit of an Edit of an Edit of an Edit of PotS Ryu. ^_^

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#6  August 21, 2019, 09:03:13 pm
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Ill see,btw i only cs'ed the sprites,not made them.I'm not sure about who made them,i took them from memo's ryu

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#7  August 21, 2019, 09:06:32 pm
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KOFHERO77 said, August 21, 2019, 09:03:13 pm
Ill see,btw i only cs'ed the sprites,not made them.I'm not sure about who made them,i took them from memo's ryu

if i recall correctly, memo's ryu didn't have the same extensive cs sprites as victorys' did
if i ever made a mode for ryu(and not laze off again), then i'll surely credit them.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#8  August 21, 2019, 09:07:51 pm
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1.8.7 said, August 21, 2019, 09:06:32 pm
KOFHERO77 said, August 21, 2019, 09:03:13 pm
Ill see,btw i only cs'ed the sprites,not made them.I'm not sure about who made them,i took them from memo's ryu

if i recall correctly, memo's ryu didn't have the same extensive cs sprites as victorys' did
if i ever made a mode for ryu(and not laze off again), then i'll surely credit them.

Yea,i only cs'ed the ex tatsu and sfv basics from his ryu

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#9  August 21, 2019, 09:17:30 pm
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Why not change the Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki back to QCF,QCB. It's odd to have the MAX version be MK/HK. Also, I renamed it to Metsu Shoryuken becuase that was its name in Alpha 3. You also messed up Evil Ryu's Messatsu Goshoryu, because it can only be done with LK.
Also I would suggest making the Imperfect Shin Shoryuken follow-up use up one less power stock becuase it doesn't do enough damage for a Level 3.
Also why did you remove the Evil Big Port from the SFF? The Evil small ports still remain.
My only complaints for now.
WIP Schedule:
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Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 09:24:46 pm by RagingRowen

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#10  August 21, 2019, 09:27:35 pm
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RagingRowen said, August 21, 2019, 09:17:30 pm
Why not change the Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki back to QCF,QCB. It's odd to have the MAX version be MK/HK. Also, I renamed it to Metsu Shoryuken becuase that was its name in Alpha 3.
Also I would suggest making the Imperfect Shin Shoryuken follow-up use up one less power stock becuase it doesn't do enough damage for a Level 3.
Also why did you remove the Evil Big Port from the SFF? The Evil small ports still remain.
My only complaints for now.

-It would be weird for Metsu Shoryuken as a LV1, I'm also considering the Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki as a vanilla version of Metsu Shoryuken.
-I'm considering Metsu Shoryuken to be only accessible by being in low health while also disabling the Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki like Ryu did against Sagat in the lore.
-QCF,QCB feels weird for my taste tbh, it is also closer to Alpha 3
-I redid the sff because FF3 messed up the sff by Auto-Arrange while fitting the extra small portraits into the normal palettes.

PS: I also forgot to include the SF3 Stance.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#11  August 21, 2019, 09:35:11 pm
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1.8.7 said, August 21, 2019, 09:27:35 pm
-I'm considering Metsu Shoryuken to be only accessible by being in low health while also disabling the Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki like Ryu did against Sagat in the lore.

Wouldn't that be too gimmicky for Ryu? This sorta reminds me of how it was for the Shin Shoryuken in MvCI where at low health the animation would change to have the Satsui no Hadou involved.

Tbh, I'll probably update my original edit instead of this one, though taking some snippets from this like the Messatsu Goshoryu and Shinkuu Hadouken stuff.

WIP Schedule:
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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#12  August 21, 2019, 09:45:29 pm
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Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 10:28:24 pm by Mark85

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#13  August 21, 2019, 11:34:02 pm
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RagingRowen said, August 21, 2019, 09:35:11 pm
Wouldn't that be too gimmicky for Ryu? This sorta reminds me of how it was for the Shin Shoryuken in MvCI where at low health the animation would change to have the Satsui no Hadou involved.

Tbh, I'll probably update my original edit instead of this one, though taking some snippets from this like the Messatsu Goshoryu and Shinkuu Hadouken stuff.
I use "life < (number)" code from the SvC chararcters exceed move to meet the requirement if QCF,QCF,K = Metsu Shoryuken or Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki
I'm testing that right now.
Preview:
Mark85 said, August 21, 2019, 09:45:29 pm
also why did you remove the sf3 stance or is it missing stuff
I forgot to put it in while redoing the sff....

Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 11:52:17 pm by 1.8.7

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#14  August 22, 2019, 01:57:46 pm
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Updated Ryu, check the first post for the changes.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#15  August 22, 2019, 03:02:49 pm
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Metsu Shoryuken for NormalRyu.def doesn't quite look the same because the def doesn't use his Evil Palettes.
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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#16  August 22, 2019, 04:05:43 pm
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RagingRowen said, August 22, 2019, 03:02:49 pm
Metsu Shoryuken for NormalRyu.def doesn't quite look the same because the def doesn't use his Evil Palettes.

I could fix them but that would mean the sff version will be converted in to 2.0 rather than the standard 1.0
And it will remove the exchanging and adding palettes like the OG PotS Ryu have.

I will find an alternative fix to this.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#17  August 22, 2019, 04:07:53 pm
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nice to see you back, I had your Ryu, Gouki and Terry  ;) as for Ryu Ex if you plan on adding it, maybe you would like to check out Victorys' Ryu where he posted his readme in his wip thread to have some ideas if you need: http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2211365 all the best  :iog:

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Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 04:11:41 pm by tehdevil

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#18  August 22, 2019, 05:10:16 pm
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Good to see you're still around. Here is my feedback.
- You have some typos in the readme, such as Nidan Shoryu Tsuki and Metsu Shoryuken being "D, DF, F, D, DB, F, k".
- I think Imperfect Shin Shoryuken should do more damage, I wouldn't want to spend 3 bars for a damage like that if I can spend 3 on normal Shin Shoryuken.
- Metsu Shoryuken for Evil Ryu is stated as D, DF, F, D, DB, B, k, with no indication like in Normal Ryu version, but I still can only do it only with HK, I think you should modify it to 2K (since is a MAX) or at least state that is only HK and not any K.

Besides that, there are the nitpicks I told RagingRowen on his topic but you don't need to worry about these.

Oh, and I loved the Metsu Shoryuken changing palette, nice idea! :)

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019
#19  August 23, 2019, 09:01:42 am
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Well damn that didn't last long, yet another new update of Pot's Ryu this soon already xD

Interesting you reverted some of the changes RagingRowen made, but as I said in his topic I always liked how Nidan Shoryuu Tsuki can be canceled into the Shin Shoryuken, so glad you brought it back.
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Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#20  August 28, 2019, 03:44:56 am
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3RD UPDATE IS LIVE (Check First Post)

DeathScythe said, August 22, 2019, 05:10:16 pm
Good to see you're still around. Here is my feedback.
- You have some typos in the readme, such as Nidan Shoryu Tsuki and Metsu Shoryuken being "D, DF, F, D, DB, F, k".
- I think Imperfect Shin Shoryuken should do more damage, I wouldn't want to spend 3 bars for a damage like that if I can spend 3 on normal Shin Shoryuken.
- Metsu Shoryuken for Evil Ryu is stated as D, DF, F, D, DB, B, k, with no indication like in Normal Ryu version, but I still can only do it only with HK, I think you should modify it to 2K (since is a MAX) or at least state that is only HK and not any K.

Besides that, there are the nitpicks I told RagingRowen on his topic but you don't need to worry about these.

Oh, and I loved the Metsu Shoryuken changing palette, nice idea! :)

- Fixed
- Added more damage but it can't get to its OG PotS Ryu damage tho
- Done

Thanks for the compliment about the changing palette and feedback about the character ^_^

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#21  August 28, 2019, 03:58:29 am
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If you add palfx to transition your transformation, it’ll look cleaner.
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#22  August 28, 2019, 04:16:27 am
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#23  August 28, 2019, 05:51:37 am
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Thanks for the updates! :D
I did some testing and found an error on his readme: it says in master mode that Nidan Shoryu Tsuki is LK only and Metsu Shoryuken is MK and HK, however when I do MK he still performs Nidan Shoryu Tsuki.
Other than that everything seems to be ok. Also thank you for removing the aura, he looks a lot better without it. :)

Edit: oh, and I'll also take a look here to see what I can do to make the palette transition even better, if I come up with something I'll contact you.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#24  August 28, 2019, 08:28:02 am
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DeathScythe said, August 28, 2019, 05:51:37 am
I did some testing and found an error on his readme: it says in master mode that Nidan Shoryu Tsuki is LK only and Metsu Shoryuken is MK and HK, however when I do MK he still performs Nidan Shoryu Tsuki.
It seems I forgot to change Master Ryu's Section in the readme...
I might bring back some OG PotS Ryu stuff to make him closer to pre-SF4 games like his OG Chargeless Shakunetsu and update the list of fighters will receive bonus damage from Shun Goku Satsu.
I have been thinking of removing some intros vs old characters that PotS gave him.

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#25  August 28, 2019, 09:30:57 am
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Gave this feedback to RagingRowen, but never got around fixing it. Can you look at these since you're updating him now?:
SolidZone 26 said, August 04, 2019, 03:06:16 am
-His dodge still doesn't have a light kick swing sound.
-Tomoe Nage doesn't have a heavy kick swing sound when the opponent is thrown.
-Senpuu Kyaku should be a medium hit sound instead of a heavy one since it's using the B command and that the damage is weaker.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.

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#26  August 28, 2019, 09:42:02 am
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This is great news, I even suggest Rowen to make the chargeless shakunetsu + no aura to ressemble his CVS appearance, at least as a config option, good to see you're going for it!

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#27  August 28, 2019, 10:44:06 am
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SolidZone 26 said, August 28, 2019, 09:30:57 am
Gave this feedback to RagingRowen, but never got around fixing it. Can you look at these since you're updating him now?:
SolidZone 26 said, August 04, 2019, 03:06:16 am
-His dodge still doesn't have a light kick swing sound.
-Tomoe Nage doesn't have a heavy kick swing sound when the opponent is thrown.
-Senpuu Kyaku should be a medium hit sound instead of a heavy one since it's using the B command and that the damage is weaker.

-Done
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DeathScythe said, August 28, 2019, 09:42:02 am
This is great news, I even suggest Rowen to make the chargeless shakunetsu + no aura to ressemble his CVS appearance, at least as a config option, good to see you're going for it!

I would like him with an evil aura if he was in his SF4-based but since OG PotS is CVS with mix of SF games throughout Arcade Era, I prefer having him without, just like SFA2 and 3, CVS1 and 2. About the making a config for such options, it would be hard since I don't have his list of variables and most of them are used in some way or another. I'm planning to remake Ryu(Mixed-Game oriented) but I'm quite busy for college and my daily grind on a certain mobile game.

Just Updated him a bit.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#28  August 28, 2019, 06:29:07 pm
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I see. I'll redownload him and take a look. If you want help with the config using both the aura + chargeable shakunetsu AND no aura + normal shakunetsu for those who still like it, I'm here.

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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#29  September 04, 2019, 03:02:28 am
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How about a config option to give Evil Ryu his SF4 voice back during Shin Messatsu Goshoryu? I liked that voice clip honestly. Personally his CVS voice while performing it honestly doesn't fit the move well, and especially since he often says the exact same line after if he wins a round with it.
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Re: Ryu Update: August 2019 (3rd Update)
#30  September 05, 2019, 03:18:37 pm
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DeathScythe said, August 28, 2019, 06:29:07 pm
I see. I'll redownload him and take a look. If you want help with the config using both the aura + chargeable shakunetsu AND no aura + normal shakunetsu for those who still like it, I'm here.

Thanks for the offer. I'm currently recoding Ryu, updates to this Ryu might take long.

GT Wonder said, September 04, 2019, 03:02:28 am
How about a config option to give Evil Ryu his SF4 voice back during Shin Messatsu Goshoryu? I liked that voice clip honestly. Personally his CVS voice while performing it honestly doesn't fit the move well, and especially since he often says the exact same line after if he wins a round with it.

I should be able to make a SF4 voicepack, SF4 voice feels out of place imo. But I'm thinking of removing Shin Messatsu Goushoryu, along with other supers, to keep him close to his 2D iterations with the exception of Evil Ryu's Axe Kick

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#31  September 05, 2019, 06:43:34 pm
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I should be able to make a SF4 voicepack, SF4 voice feels out of place imo. But I'm thinking of removing Shin Messatsu Goushoryu, along with other supers, to keep him close to his 2D iterations with the exception of Evil Ryu's Axe Kick

I really wouldn't do that if I were you honestly, POTs characters are usually meant to have all or if not most moves that they have canonically. Plus there's pretty much already a strictly-CVS based POTs styled Evil Ryu with Victory's version. Keep the supers in imo, otherwise using this Ryu won't be as fun.
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Re: Ryu Update: September 2019 (4th Update)
#32  September 20, 2019, 04:46:21 am
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Ryu updated.
- AI still feels something off than OG PotS Ryu. Please give feedback.

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#33  September 20, 2019, 12:30:25 pm
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It seems that you've forgot to post a real changelog.
Also I'd suggest tweaking the Metsu Shoryuken FX:

Edit: Also I gave the Evil LVL3 port the proper colors:
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Last Edit: September 20, 2019, 12:52:23 pm by RagingRowen

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Re: Ryu Update:September 2019 (4th Update)
#34  November 03, 2019, 11:47:22 pm
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Everything is ok well done boyz but i wanna ask one question. original Pots Ryu always beating this in Watch Mode. Did u nerf AI or something like dat ?

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Re: Ryu Update:September 2019 (4th Update)
#35  November 06, 2019, 01:28:18 am
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NBA01 said, November 03, 2019, 11:47:22 pm
Everything is ok well done boyz but i wanna ask one question. original Pots Ryu always beating this in Watch Mode. Did u nerf AI or something like dat ?

I didn't lower down anything in AI, I just ironed out some stuff on his AI to not feel glitchy or sumthing.
His AI before the update was doing Lv2 Shinkuu Hadouken despite having 1 bar.

I'm trying to work on Recoding OG PotS Ryu with new variables while maintaining(or improving) the old(cvs2 hitsparks) PotS gameplay.

I haven't been doing anything mugen-related as my pc just died but I'll work on it when I can.

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1.8.7 said, November 06, 2019, 01:28:18 am
NBA01 said, November 03, 2019, 11:47:22 pm
Everything is ok well done boyz but i wanna ask one question. original Pots Ryu always beating this in Watch Mode. Did u nerf AI or something like dat ?

I didn't lower down anything in AI, I just ironed out some stuff on his AI to not feel glitchy or sumthing.
His AI before the update was doing Lv2 Shinkuu Hadouken despite having 1 bar.

I'm trying to work on Recoding OG PotS Ryu with new variables while maintaining(or improving) the old(cvs2 hitsparks) PotS gameplay.

I haven't been doing anything mugen-related as my pc just died but I'll work on it when I can.

ok bro im waiting ^^

i hope one day someone can complete all cvs2 chars with last pots system :)
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