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varo_hades released B.B.Hood (PotS style)
#1  June 18, 2018, 01:21:50 am
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Odd, this was released like 3 weeks ago but no one's posted anything about her anywhere here.  gui0007, that's your video; why didn't you say anything?

Also, I'm not entirely sure if she's 1.0-only; please move the topic if I'm mistaken.

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#2  June 18, 2018, 02:06:33 am
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Great find, thanks.
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#3  June 18, 2018, 04:16:25 am
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I seriously thought this was posted already.  Either way, decent character ^..^

Slightly off-topic: He also released a Queen Bee if that hasn't been posted here yet either..
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#4  June 18, 2018, 04:39:28 am
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Does she has a config to turn off chain combo?
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#5  June 18, 2018, 11:03:45 am
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If varo_hades ever reads this, this my feedback on the character:

-Lifebar portrait doesn't share with the palette.
-Fire FX doesn't appear on the opponent when hit by weak and medium Cheer & Fire 2.
-Throwing the mine when crouching disappears 1 frame too early before exploding.
-xScale should be 1 because the hit box on Cool Hunting may not touch the opponent if they're all the way on the other side of the stage.

Overall, this is one of best conversions to PotS style he's done so far.

Edit: Forgot one, Apple For You doesn't have the explosion sound when it connects.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
Last Edit: June 18, 2018, 11:35:21 pm by SolidZone 26
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#6  June 18, 2018, 11:27:59 am
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#7  June 18, 2018, 12:03:11 pm
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#8  June 18, 2018, 12:07:26 pm
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Been kinda too busy to check, but is she color separated like Koopakoot's version?

-Lifebar portrait doesn't share with the palette.

That's a 1.1 thing, usually not the character's fault unless it also happens in 1.0.
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#9  June 18, 2018, 12:43:13 pm
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Been kinda too busy to check, but is she color separated like Koopakoot's version?
-Lifebar portrait doesn't share with the palette.
That's a 1.1 thing, usually not the character's fault unless it also happens in 1.0.
But it does happen in 1.0. If you view the SFF with Fighter Factory Studio, the colors are messed up. I wouldn't have said that if I was using 1.1. It probably has something to do with color separation.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
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#11  June 18, 2018, 04:38:57 pm
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This is an edit of KoopaKoot's Bulleta, shouldn't this be under edits?
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#12  June 18, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
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Definitely should be, and that portrait is mine, too.
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#13  June 19, 2018, 01:00:44 am
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t03DogO2Rk[/youtube]

lol, it's my video presentation of her. ;P
Detail that Varo released her in May.

Varo not only released Bulleta but some others Darkstalkers chars edits in POTS Style and it's more to come soon.
I'm planned to do a thread with all his Darkstalkers edits in POTS Style so far, since some people asked me to do that, but i want to talk with Varo himself. I'm trying it but it's hard to find him online when i came here.
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#14  June 19, 2018, 02:33:50 am
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After testing and comparing KoopaKoot's Bulleta with his, I like to add more important feedback to the list:

-The intro where she walks into the stage, the character aligns a few frames before the round starts.
-The voice sound where she sprints to the opponent is missing.
-Her iconic back sprint is replaced with a back dash (That should not be removed as it's part of her character).
-Heavy Cheer & Fire is the same as the weak and medium (KoopaKoot's heavy Cheer & Fire aims at a angle, but varo_hades's is the same).
-Her Hyper Apple For You is missing.

I take back what I said about this being the best conversions. It's not bad, but it's decent. I realize some issues in varo_hades's weren't present in KoopaKoot's. I hope he reads the feedback because he shouldn't be removing stuff that are part of the character.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
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#15  June 19, 2018, 03:01:16 am
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Well, at least removing stuff that are part of the character is still much better than adding stuff that are very much completely out of character.

...cough.
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#16  June 19, 2018, 03:21:41 am
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Well, at least removing stuff that are part of the character is still much better than adding stuff that are very much completely out of character.

...cough.

Eng: But that at least part of the credit, right?  --;
Esp: Pero que al menos que de parte del crédito ¿No?  --;
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#17  June 19, 2018, 05:44:15 am
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#18  June 19, 2018, 06:37:37 am
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Well, at least removing stuff that are part of the character is still much better than adding stuff that are very much completely out of character.

...cough.
Well since your name is "Baby Bonnie Hood," you should have known those things were missing when you play-tested her. Aren't you the one who made a Baby Bonnie Hood released in 2003 or am I talking about someone else that uses the same name as you?

-Her Hyper Apple For You is missing.
What? But it showed in my video, she have the Apple For You move. :P
That was the normal Apple For You. KoopaKoot's Bulleta has a hyper version of the same move where she trips on a rock and drops explosive apples or guns the opponent down with her Uzis and throws the explosive apples on them if it connects. Don't know why varo_hades would cut this move out instead of leaving it in.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 06:50:42 am by SolidZone 26
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#19  June 19, 2018, 11:49:01 am
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Maybe he thought it was too MvC and didn't fit the PotS style.

Aren't you the one who made a Baby Bonnie Hood released in 2003?

I am, I did, and I was just poking fun at myself because that adding out of character stuff was all me.  So I implore you to completely forget about my version and use this or Koopakoot's instead.

I do want to redeem myself one day, but I'm still waiting for Capcom to give her an English voice.
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#20  June 20, 2018, 04:07:07 pm
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She doesn't have "The Killing Time" no one said anything about that :/
The move you speak of is a combination of her pursuit attack from DS and the Hyper from MVC2, which was a great idea to go about that.

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You should make one and use the voices from ProjectxZone2
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#21  June 20, 2018, 04:12:11 pm
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PxZ2 didn’t have English voices.
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#22  June 20, 2018, 04:14:21 pm
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Yeah I know, but I'm just saying use those from it as they are cool imo.
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#23  June 20, 2018, 04:46:23 pm
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Killing Time, as in her Dark Force?  All it does is turn her punch attacks into shortcuts to her missile attacks, which I don't think anyone will ever find useful nowadays.  It'd have to be reworked if it's gonna be useful today; like say instead of missile shortcuts, her missiles explode larger and do more damage for the duration.

And I considered PxZ2, but ultimately decided not to for two reasons:
- She doesn't have enough voice clips to fill out a fighting game character due to the fact that she's an unrecruitable enemy-only unit so she has a very limited moveset and thus far less voice clips than the playable characters.
- I don't like her PxZ2 voice; she sounds like a completely different person in her serious voice compared to her cute voice, something that many other anime characters have already done.  In Savior, both her cute and serious voice sound pretty much the same; I feel that PxZ2 kinda screwed that up by making her sound like a generic yandere, and I'm having none of that.
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#24  June 20, 2018, 05:03:58 pm
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I’ll show you my take on it.
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Please don’t.
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#26  June 20, 2018, 05:30:26 pm
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Killing Time, as in her Dark Force?  All it does is turn her punch attacks into shortcuts to her missile attacks, which I don't think anyone will ever find useful nowadays.  It'd have to be reworked if it's gonna be useful today; like say instead of missile shortcuts, her missiles explode larger and do more damage for the duration.

And I considered PxZ2, but ultimately decided not to for two reasons:
- She doesn't have enough voice clips to fill out a fighting game character due to the fact that she's an unrecruitable enemy-only unit so she has a very limited moveset and thus far less voice clips than the playable characters.
- I don't like her PxZ2 voice; she sounds like a completely different person in her serious voice compared to her cute voice, something that many other anime characters have already done.  In Savior, both her cute and serious voice sound pretty much the same; I feel that PxZ2 kinda screwed that up by making her sound like a generic yandere, and I'm having none of that.

Good call keeping  her classic voice, I share the same opinion, its way cooler and fits way more with the char.
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#27  June 20, 2018, 06:02:03 pm
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Idk how you guys are friends with this guy, ruins everything, negative, rude for no reason. No home training.
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#28  June 20, 2018, 06:03:37 pm
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I'm not in the mood for this shit

Both of you take it somewhere else
Nevermind, there's nothing I can do
Bet your life there's something killing you
It's a shame we have to die, my dear
No one's getting out of here alive
This time
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This time
It's a shame we have to disappear
No one's getting out of here alive
This time, this time, this time
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#29  June 20, 2018, 06:21:51 pm
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Man I’m cool with the guy, I wish we could have been, but you see a pattern. I’m just trying to talk about the characters content, keep it fun. Apologies, if my comment was disruptive.

Also for the record, she has the same VA in projectXzone..
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#31  June 22, 2018, 07:51:22 am
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Since it's almost a month varo_hades released Baby Bonnie Hood, I'm beginning to think that he has no plans to update the character and will not address the issues I mentioned. I was thinking of making my own PotS characters fixes/edits thread and she will be one of my planned fixes/edits. I know Prime SC made one, but he hasn't done anymore fixes/edits since Juri 4 months ago and feel like he abandoned it. I wonder is varo_hades is still active here?

Maybe he thought it was too MvC and didn't fit the PotS style.

Aren't you the one who made a Baby Bonnie Hood released in 2003?

I am, I did, and I was just poking fun at myself because that adding out of character stuff was all me.  So I implore you to completely forget about my version and use this or Koopakoot's instead.

I do want to redeem myself one day, but I'm still waiting for Capcom to give her an English voice.
Regardless, I think she needs another super. 2 is not enough. At least a minimum of 3 level 1/2s and 1 level 3.

Nah, I still prefer using yours for my main client. Out of character or not, I find yours much funner to play especially against characters that have cheap AI. But I will use varo_hades for my PotS only roster although I don't feel 100% satisfied with it.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
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#32  June 22, 2018, 10:20:47 am
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It's a free community, so go ahead with those edits; I mean, all of my creations (except maybe Yoma) have been just edits in one form or another.  And regardless of the opinions of others on your edits, at least you fixed them in your eyes.

As for varo seemingly not updating B.B.Hood, he might just be busy with making other DS characters in PotS style.

And gosh, I guess I'm happy that someone still finds some entertainment out of my very first character.  I'm still gonna completely avoid watching any and all videos featuring her, however.
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#33  June 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
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