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Iori Yagami

VDMsound and the Allegro error
#1  December 04, 2003, 04:17:05 pm
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I know alot of people have had some trouble
with XP and it's sound(usually it's scrachy and slow)so they use VDMsound to fix it,but that also causes a high frequency of Allegro errors,
so here's what to do:when you go to make a VDMsound configuration simplely uncheck all the
other emulation options except soundblaster
emulation,since all you want is good sound right?This should reduce if not eliminate all Allegro errors associated with VDMsound.It worked for me and I use to have
Allegro errors every match,which made Mugen
unplayable,but now after I did this I haven't had
a single Allegro error. 8) ;D







P.S.I have not tested this on 2000 or NT but just
because I haven't tested it on those OS's doesn't mean it won't work.Try it out,what do have to lose except those horrorble Allegro errors. :thumbsup:




Edit:If you have some problems from turning off
Adlib and Midi then just turn off joystick emulation and leave the other two on and turn Adlib synthesis up to 44100;D









 
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Last Edit: December 15, 2003, 07:50:55 pm by Iori Yagami

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Re:vdm sound and the Allegro error
#2  December 04, 2003, 04:21:40 pm
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you had a brilliant idea posting this. it works really fine ! i can finally finish my mugen now!
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Last Edit: December 04, 2003, 05:57:25 pm by kusanagi ky0

Iori Yagami

Re:vdm sound and the Allegro error
#3  December 05, 2003, 12:01:12 am
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Thanks!I see you edited your post,but I'll reply
to your old post because the answer may help
others with the same questions about Vdm sound.It seems that Adlib and joypad emulation
aren't compatible with Mugen,whether you use
them together or apart.Using software/hardware with Mugen is a hit and miss
situation:you may hit good with a nice controller
but miss big with a bad video card,or realy miss
big with the wrong OS.Maybe they will be compatible or maybe not even necessary in....
dare I say it WINMUGEN duh duh duhnnn. ;D







 
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Re:vdm sound and the Allegro error
#4  December 05, 2003, 06:30:28 am
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Hmm.... When I use this with VDMSound. The sound is delayed?

Example. If Guile or Ryu throw a projectile, you do not hear 'Sonic Boom' or 'Hadoken' until after the animation is done. That is how late the sound plays for me using my VDMSound.

Do you know way to fix this for sound to be more accurate to the correct timing?

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Re:vdm sound and the Allegro error
#5  December 05, 2003, 06:45:31 am
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tried increasing game speed? That used to happen to me, until I did that.

But the sound is clear though, right?

Iori Yagami

Re:vdm sound and the Allegro error
#6  December 05, 2003, 08:45:07 am
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Hey MMZero did you try changing any of the options on the soundblaster tab,I found out that
I could uncheck the box for the output device(which is my sound card)and still have sound
using just the soundblaster emulation,try it and
if it doesn't work then try changing the dsp version(which is the soundbaster you are emulating)to anything besides soundblaster16. 8)












 
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Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 08:46:43 am by Iori Yagami

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Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#7  December 05, 2003, 01:41:29 pm
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but when i start mugen with VMDsound
i get the following error.

exiting due to signal SIGSEGU
General protection Fault at eip=001037af
eax=ffef0000 ebx=ffef0000 ecx=00000348 edx=fff00000 esi=0016040c edi=00002010 ebp=001e3548 esp=001e3634
program=c:\Mugen\Mugen.exe

Iori Yagami

Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#8  December 05, 2003, 02:00:49 pm
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Did this happen before or after you turned off
all the other emulations?Remember you have to
turn off all emulations except soundbaster(that
includes MIDI,Adlib and joypad). :)
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Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#9  December 05, 2003, 02:14:42 pm
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ya..i turn off all the other things,
but i still get this error >_<

Iori Yagami

Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#10  December 05, 2003, 04:02:26 pm
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Well this is kind of strange,usually VDMsound errors happen before the start of a match,I've
never heard of it happening while Mugen was
trying to start up,but anyway seeing is how
every thing alse is off you should keep your
attention on the compatibility tab(which is used for memory)and the soundblaster tab.In the compatibiity tab change the [EMS] option to its
highest setting then try Mugen,if that doesn't
work then turn [EMS] and [XMS] off then try again,also you could try changing the IRQ from
7 to 5 or turning off the output device(your sound card) in the soundblaster tab.As a last resort try turning off Windows compatibility(so Windows can't emulate any other OS's).It could
be your computer or maybe the version of your
XP,I had the same exact problem without VDMsound on WIN98se,which made installing 98se a complete waste of time(so much crying :'( and so many cus words :furious3:)





P.S.If none of this works then just take Ignatius
advice and try sound fx2000 ;D 8) ;D
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Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 11:40:58 pm by Iori Yagami

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Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#11  December 05, 2003, 04:35:13 pm
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if mugen have a windows version...
i can't understand why elecbyte gave up their great project....

Sheng Long

Re:VMDsound and the Allegro error
#12  December 05, 2003, 07:42:34 pm
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kkkkkkk said, December 05, 2003, 04:35:13 pm
if mugen have a windows version...
i can't understand why elecbyte gave up their great project....

Yes they need to release winmugen for those with Win XP especially.

Also, about the sound. The sound is much better less static with VDMSound yes, but I'm still hearing it as late timing. I changed the sound blaster options and still nothing happened. Maybe someone can 'show' me what exactly I need to change to fix my sound timing bug?

BTW, before I got XP, the sound was perfectly fine. But because of XP, it's all ruined now.  ::)

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#13  December 10, 2003, 03:08:07 am
Hello, I'm having a different kind of problem. I used to get these Allegro errors all the time, so I tried to upgrade VDMsound with the update package 2 and the launchpad. Now, for some reason, MUGEN freezes when it gets to "Initializing Keyboard". Anyone know what's wrong here?

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#14  December 10, 2003, 04:23:48 am
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Do not apply Update Package 2.  Repair or reinstall version 2.0.4 and try the solution at the top of this forum.

Unverified, but Possibly Useful, Tip:

Sometimes removing ID Tags from an MP3 file can slightly improve playback quality and volume in MUGEN.  It works for me.
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Iori Yagami

Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#15  December 10, 2003, 08:45:00 am
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MMZero maybe you should try using Adlib.
just turn it back on and change some of the options,is it just sound effects or is it the stage music that delays as well.







P.S.Soundfx2000 sucks big time :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :furious3: >:(
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Last Edit: December 10, 2003, 08:48:56 am by Iori Yagami

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#16  December 11, 2003, 04:42:44 am
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when i start mugen with VDMS...
i got this error
Load error:no DPMI -Get csdpmi*b.zip

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#17  December 11, 2003, 05:04:54 am
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Taken from a site after passing csdpmi through the Yahoo.com search engine:

Quote
5.5. What is CSDPMI*B.ZIP and why do I need it?

   If you boot to MS-DOS instead of Windows and try to use GNU sed
   v1.18 or 3.02, you may encounter the following error message:

      no DPMI - Get csdpmi*b.zip

   "DPMI" stands for DOS Protected Mode Interface; it's basically a
   means of running DOS in Protected Mode (as opposed to Real Mode),
   which allows programs to share resources in extended memory without
   conflicting with one another. Running HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE is
   not enough. The "CSDPMI*B.ZIP" refers to files written by Charles
   Sandmann to provide DPMI services for 32-bit computers (i.e.,
   386SX, 386DX, 486SX, etc.). Download this file:

      http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2misc/csdpmi4b.zip
      [ftp]ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2misc/csdpmi4b.zip[/ftp]

   and extract CWSDPMI.EXE, CWSDPR0.EXE and CWSPARAM.EXE from the ZIP
   file. Put all 3 CWS*.EXE files in the same directory as GSED.EXE
   and you're all set. There are DOC files enclosed, but they're
   nearly incomprehensible for the average computer user. (Another
   case of user-vicious documentation.)

   If you're running Windows and you normally use a DOS session to run
   GNU sed (i.e., you get to a DOS prompt with a resizable window or
   you press Alt-Enter to switch to full-screen mode), you don't need
   the CWS*.EXE files at all, since Windows uses DPMI already.

kkkkkkk

Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#18  December 11, 2003, 12:49:46 pm
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i got the csdpmi4b.zip,
wath do i need to do next?
i unzip them to my Mugen folder....
but i still get the error message...

protected mode not accessible
Load error: no DPMI - get csdpmi*b.zip
Last Edit: December 11, 2003, 12:52:04 pm by kkkkkkk

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#19  December 11, 2003, 01:52:24 pm
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Launch cwsdpmi.exe, then mugen.exe

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#20  December 11, 2003, 05:02:36 pm
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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#21  December 11, 2003, 06:40:24 pm
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Oops, I just realized you've hi-jacked a Mugen Tips and Tutorials.

Some mod: better split the out-topic posts in the help section, with an appropriate title. :yes:

kkkkkkk: what is your OS? How do you launch the files? In a Dos 'Box', or in a full DOS environment?

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#22  December 12, 2003, 01:13:48 am
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how do you configure  VDM sound??? i installed it, it works, but i have the allegro error.. i tried to see if control panel has it.. but it doesn't...how do you guys configure the program?

Iori Yagami

Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#23  December 12, 2003, 05:10:07 am
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Last Edit: December 12, 2003, 05:12:37 am by Iori Yagami

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#24  December 12, 2003, 08:02:55 am
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BlackJack said, December 11, 2003, 06:40:24 pm
Oops, I just realized you've hi-jacked a Mugen Tips and Tutorials.

Some mod: better split the out-topic posts in the help section, with an appropriate title. :yes:

kkkkkkk: what is your OS? How do you launch the files? In a Dos 'Box', or in a full DOS environment?

my OS is winXP <<with sp-1 installed>>
and i just install VDMsound, follow iori's steps to config my VMDS,
and then right click my mugen.exe and choose run with VMDsound.

BlackJack

Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#25  December 12, 2003, 08:13:11 am
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OK, kkkkkkk, go to Start --> Run
type "command.com" in the box, press enter
type CD\MUGEN
type CWSDPMI [enter]
type MUGEN [enter]

Be sure CWSDPMI.EXE is in the same folder as Mugen.


Edit: hmm... since you have Windows XP, I don't see why you would need CWSDPMI. Even if you've edited the properties of some programs. Unless VDMS is crappier than I was thinking. ???
Last Edit: December 12, 2003, 08:23:11 am by BlackJack

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#26  December 12, 2003, 10:35:02 am
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BlackJack said, December 12, 2003, 08:13:11 am
OK, kkkkkkk, go to Start --> Run
type "command.com" in the box, press enter
type CD\MUGEN
type CWSDPMI [enter]
type MUGEN [enter]

Be sure CWSDPMI.EXE is in the same folder as Mugen.


Edit: hmm... since you have Windows XP, I don't see why you would need CWSDPMI. Even if you've edited the properties of some programs. Unless VDMS is crappier than I was thinking. ???

when i type cwsdpmi.exe
i got this error..
"protected mode not accessible"

 

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#27  December 12, 2003, 12:30:50 pm
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ok now with this vdmsound i got less allegro errors, still some when i play two versus two chars, anyway nevermind. However, my problem is that when i see the ending of a char, the music is delayed...Any clue? i don' t seem to have problem with music during the fights.
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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#28  December 15, 2003, 07:31:47 pm
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Although I'm not sure if this will help Kyo Kusanagi
or Mmzero but here it go's,when I first started
using VDMsound I notice that the graphics where moving very slow untill I used one of the
filters,and the one that worked the best was
filter#3 the scanlines,after that the game was at
normal speed.I hope it works for you;D


Note:It seems that Adlib and Midi aren't causing
the Allegro error,it seems to be the joystick emulation,so you might want to leave them on
and just turn joystick emulation off. ;D



P.S.Also turn Adlib's synthesis up to 44100. :)










 
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Last Edit: December 15, 2003, 07:53:15 pm by Iori Yagami

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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#29  December 15, 2003, 08:05:53 pm
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Iori Yagami said, December 15, 2003, 07:31:47 pm
the graphics where moving very slow untill I used one of the filters,and the one that worked the best was filter#3 the scanlines

Because Mugen only has to display the normal number of lines divided by 2.

Iori Yagami

Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#30  December 15, 2003, 08:14:38 pm
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yeah,the other filters work they just look very bad(kind of like pastels) ??? :P
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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#31  December 16, 2003, 10:17:44 pm
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Some systems will outright eject 320x240 resolutions, esp those who don't have nvidia video cards. SO what do you do?

Use the doubleres=4 approach. Many people got better speeds and better performance because od doubleres. It doesn't have to be doubleres=4 though, although it would be better.

My guess is, sound speed is somewhat influenced by the kind of sound card, drivers, and cpu and bus speed. A good combination of these, coupled with large ram, can make your mugen run as if it were on DOS.
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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#32  May 29, 2004, 08:36:21 am
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Re:VDMsound and the Allegro error
#33  May 29, 2004, 06:46:13 pm
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