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Sprite Multiplies!?
#1  May 17, 2010, 06:31:44 pm
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Victim: Kyo AKOF (Helper type edited to "Player")
Suspect: Gustav & Yukino (Zelgadis')

The problem happened if:
1. Kyo's Mushiki got countered by Gustav's Counter SDM.
2. Kyo got hit by Yukino's Lightning Reincarnation HSDM while performing Mushiki.

While Kyo got thrown by either move, he WILL clone himself.
In Yukino's case, after he falls and stand up, he reverts to normal (no clones)
But in Gustav's case... His clone will remain...  --;

Any solution to this?

PS: Sorry, no screenshots. Haven't figured out yet how to put screens...  --;

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#2  May 17, 2010, 07:30:17 pm
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More than likely this is an issue involving either helpers being put into custom states due to not having a HitOverride or a Reversaldef coded without an "attr = " parameter.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#3  May 17, 2010, 08:26:08 pm
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Wait, wait *take notes*
Which character is responsible?
Any example on the coding?

BTW, tried Kyo's Mushiki against Orochi's Bright Light and Gelato's Full-Screen. Nothing happened.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#4  May 18, 2010, 05:00:43 am
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need hitoverride and destroy self for the helper involved in kyo's mushiki.
Last Edit: May 18, 2010, 05:05:46 am by navetsea

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#5  May 18, 2010, 03:16:33 pm
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Like this?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Doesn't work, sadly. :(

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#6  May 18, 2010, 03:42:11 pm
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hmm, try to hitoveride it into another statedef (sort of state dedicated for destroying unwanted helper)  and there add destroyself, I think it is a sure way to turn off the helper.

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; bombslow helper
[Statedef 1004]
type    = S
movetype= A
physics = N
velset = 0.6,0
anim = 6005   

[State 1004, 1]
type = nothitby
trigger1 = 1
value = ,NA,SA,NT,ST,HT

[state 1004, void]
type = hitoverride
trigger1 = 1
attr = SCA, AA, AP, AT
time = -1
stateno = 4000

[State 1004, exit]
type = DestroySelf
trigger1 = anim = 6015 && animtime = 0
trigger2 = movecontact

;------------------------------------------------------

[Statedef 4000]
type = S
movetype = I
physics = N
anim = 4000
velset = 0,0
ctrl = 0

[State 4000, exit]
type = DestroySelf
trigger1 = time = 0

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#7  May 18, 2010, 03:54:32 pm
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In your example, anim 4000 is an empty animation, right? Will try.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#8  May 18, 2010, 04:13:06 pm
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yes, an empty anim

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#9  May 18, 2010, 04:16:22 pm
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Mushiki Helper
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Part of MAX Mushiki Helper
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Destroy Helper
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Still not working... :(
It's like, Gustav and Yukino able to attack Kyo's helper...

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#10  May 18, 2010, 04:48:12 pm
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Try adding a slot number to the hitoverrides and see if that changes anything. I doubt that it will though, but if all else fails then its probably a problem with the characters attacking Kyo. Is it a specific move they're using? If its a counter move then I see the problem. If not then check to see if they have a Reversaldef active.

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#11  May 18, 2010, 04:58:46 pm
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Slot number?

For Gustav, yes. It's a counter SDM.
For Yukino, however, it's a full-screen attack.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#12  May 18, 2010, 05:05:49 pm
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Tomoyasu said, May 18, 2010, 04:58:46 pm
Slot number?

For Gustav, yes. It's a counter SDM.
For Yukino, however, it's a full-screen attack.

might wanna post the code for those.. I have a strong suspicion about Gustav

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#13  May 18, 2010, 05:11:59 pm
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Gustav's
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Yukino's
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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#14  May 18, 2010, 05:30:14 pm
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My suspicion with Gustav was right

Add the following line to Gustav's code (the one thats bolded):

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[State 1000, ReversalDef]
type = ReversalDef
trigger1 = 1
pausetime = 0,0
sparkno = -1
sparkxy = 0,0
hitsound = S13,17
reversal.attr = SCA, NA, SA, HA
attr = S, HT
numhits = 0
ignorehitpause = 1
p1stateno = 1135


[State 800, Repel]
type = ReversalDef
trigger1 = anim = 2006
reversal.attr = SCA, NA, SA, HA
attr = S, HT
pausetime = -2,0
priority = 99, hit
numhits = 0
sparkno = -1
sparkxy = 100, -100
ground.cornerpush.veloff = 0
air.cornerpush.veloff = 0
down.cornerpush.veloff = 0
guard.cornerpush.veloff = 0
airguard.cornerpush.veloff = 0
fall.xvelocity = -3.27272725105286
fall.yvelocity = -3.25555985694885
p2stateno = 2006

see if that resolves anything.

As for Yukino, I dont see what might be causing it, unless its in the code for his helpers?

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#15  May 18, 2010, 05:39:48 pm
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Will try right on.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#16  May 18, 2010, 05:49:57 pm
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Still not working... :(

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#17  May 18, 2010, 05:50:51 pm
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Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#18  May 18, 2010, 05:57:47 pm
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I don't know why, but if I changed the helper type to "Normal", his helpers will go through the enemy. If you do a zero distance Mushiki, the helpers wont hit.
Will try, though.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#19  May 18, 2010, 06:04:35 pm
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Tomoyasu said, May 18, 2010, 05:57:47 pm
I don't know why, but if I changed the helper type to "Normal", his helpers will go through the enemy. If you do a zero distance Mushiki, the helpers wont hit.
Will try, though.

If its not hitting at close range then thats most likely a problem with the Width controller, or lack thereof.

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#20  May 18, 2010, 06:13:56 pm
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This?
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[Statedef 3510]
type = S
movetype = A
physics = S
anim = 3302
poweradd = 0
velset = 0
ctrl = 0
sprpriority = 9

[state 1000]
type = hitoverride
trigger1 = 1
attr = SCA,NA,SA,HA,NP,SP,HP,NT,ST,HT
stateno = 20000
time = -1

[State 170, –³“G]
type = NotHitBy
trigger1 = 1
value = SCA,NA,SA,HA,NP,SP,HP,NT,ST,HT
ignorehitpause = 1

[State 210, •¨—“I‚ȃLƒƒƒ‰‚Ì•]
type = Width
trigger1 = 1
edge = 20,0

BTW, still no luck, either... :(

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#21  May 21, 2010, 04:23:10 pm
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Since I can't figure out the problem either, I decided to use an alternative method.
Even though it bugs me, for now, this case is closed.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#22  May 21, 2010, 06:47:49 pm
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I'm kinda lost on exactly what it is you're trying to do here, my guess is a helper is being reversed resulting in an unwanted clone, If I'm right then I have a solution

Tomoyasu

Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#23  May 21, 2010, 07:10:07 pm
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A helper being reversed? You mean... being countered? Yep.

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#24  May 21, 2010, 07:24:42 pm
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Tomoyasu said, May 21, 2010, 07:10:07 pm
A helper being reversed? You mean... being countered? Yep.

Ok then

If you haven't already done so, find common1.cns in your data, make a copy of it, and put it in your character folder

Open your copied common1.cns and put this code in EVERY common state

[State DestroyHelper]
type=destroyself
trigger1=ishelper
ignorehitpause=1
pausemovetime=9999999
supermovetime=9999999

I actually recommend every creator / editor do this, being a former ""nukewar"" author, I know very well how annoying reversaldefs can be if they lack attr, cloning your helpers left and right to a point where the system can no longer generate them, if you do this, you should pretty much never ever have to worry about clones again

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#25  May 21, 2010, 07:30:59 pm
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Will try.

Wait? If the char already got his own common.cns? Is it OK to modify that one instead?

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Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 07:38:57 pm by Tomoyasu

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#26  May 21, 2010, 08:26:22 pm
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It worked flawlessly. Thanks a bunch.

One last question, though. With the code of yours, if I do a helper-based move (eg: Yami Barai), then Kyo got hit before the helper hits the enemy, will the Yami Barai disappear?

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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#27  May 21, 2010, 08:41:46 pm
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Re: Sprite Multiplies!?
#28  May 22, 2010, 10:01:10 am
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Ah, I see. Thanks a bunch, friend.

This case is as good as closed!

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