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MUGEN 1.2 And New features - can it happens someday or everything is over? (Read 5498 times)

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MUGEN 1.2 And New features - can it happens someday or everything is over?
#1  August 16, 2018, 05:04:59 am
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MUGEN 1.2 And New features - can it happens someday or everything is over?




all the things mentioned below can be found at different simple games of past like was at the arcades cps1/cps2/cps3 and neogeo system and
everything aren't a new technology.

1 - Animated Portrait Config for selection screen (selecting and chosen char) and versus screen.
2 - Animated Stage Selection
3 - inner and implemented filter system to avoid pixelation on low-res sprites. (existent on older version of winmugen before)
4 - 2vs2 / 3vs3 and 4vs4 tag battle system implemented.
5 - score system based on light/medium/hard attacks and super/hyper attacks.
6 - scripts for a simple storyline building.
7 - scripts for winner screen with more interactivity. 
8 - scripts for here comes a new challenger and push start button.
9 - scripts for bonus game
10 - scripts for unlockable chars and selectable chars with use of start or special button.
11 - scripts for team member customization in order of fighting.
12 - scripts for interactivity of lifebar
13 - selection with color alternation and different pose.
14 - cutscenes and animated fade in and fade out
15 - compatibility for android/psp like openbor
16 - sound features to implement the name of chars when they are chosen.
17 - character style mode selection.
and more.....?


mugen engine is cool, but it´s missing life, the engine is very artificial.

all possibilities to make a quality fullgame with standardized cast and an original story and more worked without complex codes that's not accessible to anyone, mainly newbies or starters.

leave your comment or point of view about what you wish get better for this engine for your projects.
 
Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 08:01:19 am by Mazemerald.
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#2  August 16, 2018, 01:35:36 pm
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#3  August 16, 2018, 01:40:49 pm
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#4  August 16, 2018, 02:14:30 pm
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#5  August 16, 2018, 02:38:02 pm
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#6  August 16, 2018, 03:58:47 pm
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That's kind of already possible in the clones, but I don't see the comiunity moving to any of them.
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#7  August 16, 2018, 04:03:25 pm
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Too hard on MUGEN's background. I didn't do much with Ikemen Plus before I just deleted it, even though I admire what is possible in it, Ikemen's just too hard for me.
BTW, Mazemerald. Go check Ikemen Plus. It already has and NORMAL animated ports, and expanded Win Screen, and Extra Gaming Modes, and MANY more. The only problem there is how the hack can I customize it but Chars-Arenas?
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#8  August 16, 2018, 05:02:03 pm
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Too hard on MUGEN's background. I didn't do much with Ikemen Plus before I just deleted it, even though I admire what is possible in it, Ikemen's just too hard for me.

Yeah, I think that the key is to make the new engine even easier to use than mugen; though mguen itself is not that important as it ahs a lot of "helper programs" like fighter factory.
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#9  August 16, 2018, 05:26:07 pm
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I agree with you. It´s a shame but Mugen is death... Ikemen go plus it´s open source and with this people with coding experience can add all this things. Elecbyte will never release the code so it is impossible to update the engine. I hope someday we can see all these options available.
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#10  August 16, 2018, 05:36:15 pm
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Hopefully, Ikemen GO Plus will push it forward, because I have no faith on Elecbyte.
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#11  August 16, 2018, 07:57:27 pm
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Here's a question: How hard would it be to reverse-engineer MUGEN?
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#12  August 16, 2018, 09:28:31 pm
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My question is more like, what is the point of it ? ikemen already does what mugen does and more, yet it does not seem to be getting widely adopted; I might be wrong and the level of compatibility with mugen is what stops people from using it; I don't know.
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#13  August 17, 2018, 06:09:31 am
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The lack of compatibility is being worked on iirc, they plan to make Ikemen GO Plus compatible with mugen screenpacks.
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#14  August 17, 2018, 01:26:02 pm
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ikemen already does what mugen does and more, yet it does not seem to be getting widely adopted

My personal theory is that, while practically near infinite customizability is nice, many people don't feel the need for it. MUGEN 1.0 and 1.1 as it stands already fulfill many of the wants and needs of the people when it comes to fighting games and we still have many more characters to choose from and create still.

In addition, many of the features listed in the OP are not things I will not miss if they are not in the game. Animated portraits? I can live without. Same thing with the rest of the listed features.
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#15  August 19, 2018, 02:26:47 am
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ikemen seems to be hard to config for someone and it can be the reason to avoid it, maybe an easier interface can attract more users.

i would like to have a new engine to make more mugen games, but i really believe it won't occur more, with all the modern technology available today and we are stopped at the time. will the mugen engine last for how many years more now? it is hard to reply.
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#16  August 19, 2018, 04:06:42 am
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will the mugen engine last for how many years more now? it is hard to reply.

If nothing shows up that's better may be around 40 years more. If a new one does show up its not going to be an easy transition since most programmers are used to mugen already.
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#17  August 19, 2018, 05:40:57 pm
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with all the modern technology available today and we are stopped at the time

Well I remember 10 years ago.. mugen is NOT the same that is now ABSOLUTLY.. maybe we have to wait some more years.. the technology to get moving.
And the gamers always will play 2D fighting games.. because is classic, is fun, and is simple, I preffer 2d fighting games instead 3D.
2D games sill attracts people, Sonic it´s an example with Sonic Mania (and I preffer this!, instead that sega do a Sonic 3D for Xbox).
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#18  August 19, 2018, 08:58:44 pm
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All I really need is a real player VS AI mode. I don't like having to press Ctrl-1 every time. Sometimes it doesn't work and I take damage.
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#19  August 20, 2018, 04:13:07 pm
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ikemen seems to be hard to config for someone and it can be the reason to avoid it, maybe an easier interface can attract more users.

i would like to have a new engine to make more mugen games, but i really believe it won't occur more, with all the modern technology available today and we are stopped at the time. will the mugen engine last for how many years more now? it is hard to reply.

I think the best compromise would be to make it so the new engine has a program that can import mugen charactets to the enw engine's format, that way the new engine is not limited by what mugen can/can't do; and comapatibility is better understood.
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is this character compatible with the new engine ?
well, has it been ported to it ?
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#20  August 21, 2018, 01:08:16 am
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RPG MAKER has a world of features to help you edit a fantastic rpg game, then mugen could be so rich on features like as rpg maker.

the mugen engine has not neither the more primary features of an old fighting game, we play on an engine totally artificial and poor of options to set the game more realistic.

the mugen engine is very powerful, it only hasn't been added advanced options.

animated portraits and selection of colors and stages for me it´s not a hard thing to implement with the right coding.

the story mode script will give us the freedom to release a mugen with a real story and personality.
 
we need to join in favor the mugen engine evolution, like that we can build games in 2d with more quality.


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#21  August 21, 2018, 02:07:43 am
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with no one knowing elecbyte's whereabouts, mugen 1.2 can't happen.
also yes i am aware elecbyte is more than one person, which makes it even more difficult.
You know what i'm gonna do now?
no?
Well too bad I don't know either.
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#22  August 21, 2018, 06:14:50 am
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All I really need is a real player VS AI mode. I don't like having to press Ctrl-1 every time. Sometimes it doesn't work and I take damage.

Never had that happen to me. Maybe something wrong's with the character?
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