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The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Justice for Floyd edition (Read 646960 times)

Started by Ricepigeon, March 22, 2017, 08:42:19 pm
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Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: The Calm Before the Storm
#721  October 13, 2017, 07:25:39 am
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Today, Trump signed an executive order that will eventually rewrite key ACA regulations, and potentially allow individuals to purchase short-term health insurance that don't cover the ACA mandated essential health benefits (i.e., stuff like preexisting conditions and other stuff that makes health insurance actually worthwhile), which pretty much every expert agrees will destabilize the existing healthcare marketplaces, and see an exodus of young, healthy people who will go buy the very cheap, very skimpy health plans, leaving the existing marketplace full of sick and elderly people (who can't use those skimpy plans), which will naturally cause premiums to skyrocket. It's an idea that no one in particular seems to love (except Rand Paul, I guess), but I guess spite is a good way to govern!

But it's not all bad: this order doesn't do anything immediately, it just sets up a process by which those regulations will eventually be rewritten. So there's always a chance cooler heads could prevail, and no disastrous decisions are made. No need to panic right this second...

Except, oh wait, in an even more massive bombshell, the White House announced tonight that the government will no longer pay the cost-sharing reductions to the insurance markets that help keep the premiums affordable. Such a move is almost guaranteed to cause the ACA markets to implode; uncertainty about whether Trump would cancel the payments or not have already caused a big increase in premiums for 2018, and that's only the beginning. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that premiums will increase by 25% by 2020, and that the deficit will increase by $6 billion in 2018 and $21 billion by 2020.

So uh yeah, things are pretty fucked up right now.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: The Calm Before the Storm
#722  October 13, 2017, 03:05:31 pm
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My mother became ill literally the week after getting her ACA coverage. Luckily for her, they covered the overwhelming majority of her $80,000 bill. Plenty of other people with cancer and other horrible diseases depend on it or they would be up a creek without a paddle, otherwise. He doesn't care though. Instead trying to fix what's wrong this asshole is intentionally fucking everything up.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Obamacare is DEAD... sorta
#723  October 14, 2017, 08:30:06 pm
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Trump made a speech at an anti LGBT hate group event, praising them for their good work and assuring them that he will protect Christian values in America.

Can't wait for Snakebyte to come in and explain to all us libtards how this is a fake news conspiracy and how openly condoning discrimination and hate speech is actually a bold, presidential action that proves how much Trump cares about equal rights.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Obamacare is DEAD... sorta
#724  October 14, 2017, 08:32:40 pm
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Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Obamacare is DEAD... sorta
#725  October 15, 2017, 04:39:46 am
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Trump made a speech at an anti LGBT hate group event, praising them for their good work and assuring them that he will protect Christian values in America.

Can't wait for Snakebyte to come in and explain to all us libtards how this is a fake news conspiracy and how openly condoning discrimination and hate speech is actually a bold, presidential action that proves how much Trump cares about equal rights.

You know you're not going to convince people that you have legitimate concerns about this country's future when you make comments like this, right?
 
In actuality, it makes you look like an douche. Just saying.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Obamacare is DEAD... sorta
#726  October 15, 2017, 05:13:34 am
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Your own snyde remark would have more weight if it added something to the conversation.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Obamacare is DEAD... sorta
#727  October 26, 2017, 09:54:54 pm
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Every time i think trump is at his worse.I get proven wrong each day.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#728  October 30, 2017, 04:03:55 pm
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Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#729  November 02, 2017, 10:06:28 pm
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Today, Trump signed an executive order that will eventually rewrite key ACA regulations, and potentially allow individuals to purchase short-term health insurance that don't cover the ACA mandated essential health benefits (i.e., stuff like preexisting conditions and other stuff that makes health insurance actually worthwhile), which pretty much every expert agrees will destabilize the existing healthcare marketplaces, and see an exodus of young, healthy people who will go buy the very cheap, very skimpy health plans, leaving the existing marketplace full of sick and elderly people (who can't use those skimpy plans), which will naturally cause premiums to skyrocket. It's an idea that no one in particular seems to love (except Rand Paul, I guess), but I guess spite is a good way to govern!

But it's not all bad: this order doesn't do anything immediately, it just sets up a process by which those regulations will eventually be rewritten. So there's always a chance cooler heads could prevail, and no disastrous decisions are made. No need to panic right this second...

Except, oh wait, in an even more massive bombshell, the White House announced tonight that the government will no longer pay the cost-sharing reductions to the insurance markets that help keep the premiums affordable. Such a move is almost guaranteed to cause the ACA markets to implode; uncertainty about whether Trump would cancel the payments or not have already caused a big increase in premiums for 2018, and that's only the beginning. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that premiums will increase by 25% by 2020, and that the deficit will increase by $6 billion in 2018 and $21 billion by 2020.

So uh yeah, things are pretty fucked up right now.

News form the Washington Compost? Seriously? Of course they'll spin it to look bad. It'll be just fine in the long run. Hopefully government run healthcare will implode and they can give it to the open market. Like it should be. Government should never be a part of healthcare. That's socialism. Give it to the open market and watch the prices for insurance drop. More then likely this is the end game. Get back to pure Capitalism.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#730  November 02, 2017, 10:26:17 pm
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#731  November 03, 2017, 01:06:53 am
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Hopefully government run healthcare will implode and they can give it to the open market. Like it should be. Government should never be a part of healthcare. That's socialism. Give it to the open market and watch the prices for insurance drop. More then likely this is the end game. Get back to pure Capitalism.

None of that will solve the rampant cronyism within the industry, nor would it eliminate the FDA's stranglehold over the availability of drugs. I'm not big on Obamacare either but the problems extend beyond that.

This is why Trump's promise on congressional term limits (will never happen btw) was such an appeal point.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#732  November 03, 2017, 01:19:59 am
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News form the Washington Compost? Seriously? Of course they'll spin it to look bad. It'll be just fine in the long run. Hopefully government run healthcare will implode and they can give it to the open market. Like it should be. Government should never be a part of healthcare. That's socialism. Give it to the open market and watch the prices for insurance drop. More then likely this is the end game. Get back to pure Capitalism.
LOL, would you prefer a link from the New York SLIMES? Or maybe the Chicago TRASHBUNE? Or the uh... Des Moines RAGISTER? ok i'm done

anyways, every other first world nation in the world has better health care than the US, and all of them (not just the ones with single payer like Canada or Britain) have the government involved to a large degree. Health care just doesn't work in a free market. We already had an open market for health care before the ACA was enacted, and guess what: millions of people were simply unable to get any kind of health insurance before the ACA, and now they can. The ACA is obviously an imperfect solution (and indeed, many of the people behind it hoped that it would be a stepping stone towards moving to a more European-style health care system), but it was written under the assumption that, as had happened in the years past with every other huge piece of legislation, the two parties would be able to come together and compromise later on to fix any problems it might have. Of course, that never ended up happening...
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#733  November 03, 2017, 01:59:12 am
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Obamacare at least succeeded in convincing people America needs single payer.

Problem is the democratic party is in complete shambles and republicans think socialized healthcare is the devil, so a single payer healthcare system is as much of pipe dream as as it has ever been.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#734  November 03, 2017, 02:03:45 am
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Call me crazy but I think 'full capitalism' is better than the ACA... and single-payer is better than both.
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#735  November 03, 2017, 10:20:48 am
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so trump is gonna get busted because he was offered intel by russians that hillary sold uranium to them? hahahahahahaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaahahaaaahaaaa!
Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#736  November 03, 2017, 01:30:31 pm
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LOL, would you prefer a link from the New York SLIMES? Or maybe the Chicago TRASHBUNE? Or the uh... Des Moines RAGISTER? ok i'm done
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Why would I prefer those when I don't even respect the Washington Compost? Dumb comeback.

Any of you who think single-payer is a good thing are completely ignorant. Canada has better healthcare than the US? Freaking stupid. Do you know how long it takes to get an MRI appointment there? Do you know how many people come to the US from Canada to get their surgeries and treatments? What are you guys talking about? Their ability to treat their own citizens is sub par because everything is so expensive. Since their government pays for everything the prices have sky rocketed. So there's not enough to go around. The ACA wasn't meant to do anything but open up a door for Socialism/Communism. It was supposed to fail. You guys are so blind. Obama is a Communist. A Marxist pure and simple. The ACA was made to fail during Hillary's presidency so that single-payer could be ushered in to "save the day". When in actuality it would be the way to get this country into communism. The globalist movement is trying to dominate this country and ignorant people like you guys are helping it along. The government has no business in healthcare. Giving it to the free market will fix way more then any other solution at this point. You'll always have sorry individuals making money the wrong way. But it's better then giving complete control of something like healthcare to the government. Wake up.
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Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
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#738  November 03, 2017, 02:21:53 pm
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Re: The Donald Trump Political MAGAthread: Manafort charged with money laundering
#739  November 03, 2017, 02:35:38 pm
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Corporatism is the real problem, socialism is just the buzzword used to detract the Dems.

Even right-leaning websites acknowledge that the government should have some involvement in healthcare (non-rich elders, sudden emergencies). And Obamacare did get right the notion of healthcare for kids, up to age 26 is kinda lol though.

It'll never happen here in the duopoly here because:
The Dems (some knowingly) say that more regulations will help, but only makes life harder for small business and citizens.
The Repubs give no shits about poor people and between the free-market lines are "we'll sellout to big corporations and fuck over small business and citizens."

Neither of which will mention lobbyists pocketing millions of dollars while people are denied access to care/medicine that's more accessible in other countries.
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#740  November 03, 2017, 03:54:54 pm
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There was already healthcare for kids before Obamacare. What are you talking about? Obamacare didn't do anything for the kids. Ever heard of CHIP? Been around for years long before the ACA. Free healthcare for all kids. All you have to do is sign them up. All Obama did was allow kids to become leeches until they're 26. So stupid. Get a job and get your own insurance.

Any right leaning website supporting socialism is garbage. More then likely they're becoming more left leaning as time goes on. You can't be on the right and support socialism. That's like saying your a Jewish Nazi.

Republicans do care about the poor. That's why they push for less welfare and government aid. People need to get off their butts and get a job. Too many people abuse handouts. It only weakens them. Physically and mentally handicapped, elderly, and disabled vets should be some of the only ones getting welfare. Everybody else should be working. Dems don't give a crap about the poor. Giving them more welfare and more "help" only keeps them under slavery for more votes and more power. The Dems used slaves for work back in the 1800's and now they use them for votes.

I'm not Republican but if I have to choose a side I'm on theirs. No neither side will admit anything about lobbyists making buttloads of money on the side. But Trump does. So I back him.