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#1  September 10, 2018, 12:58:40 pm
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#2  September 10, 2018, 01:25:01 pm
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Oh, man. Loving this~! Another arcade fighting game icon returns!
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#3  September 10, 2018, 01:30:03 pm
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Wow, that's some work on the backgrounds and the filters.
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#4  September 10, 2018, 02:30:57 pm
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I really hope to god that this game gets a Western release... after the mess that Sen was, it would be great to see Samurai Shodown make it's triumphant return.

It's great to see classic characters as well. I saw at least 5 (Haohmaru, Jubei, Nakoruru, Earthquake and Galford) and if this is a reboot of the series, then most of the classic cast should return.
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#6  September 10, 2018, 03:10:42 pm
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Full image of the illustration that appears on the side screens of the Sony pre-show while the trailer of the new Samurai Shodown was shown:
11 characters ? That sounds rather short unless it's really a reboot of the first game. I just want Kazuki but that's not looking too good for him.
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#7  September 10, 2018, 04:23:50 pm
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I can't believe SNK is making another Samurai Shodown! It's been 10 long years since "6"!
I'm so happy!
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#8  September 10, 2018, 04:32:11 pm
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YEEEEEESSSSS!!!

Finally, my favourite series might be able to regain some respect after Sen. Does look like a reboot of the first game, but I'm eager to see more... so glad of Galford's looks, but oddly... I'm really looking forward to seeing Charlotte or Gen-An. :)
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#9  September 10, 2018, 04:49:22 pm
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hope there's gore in this one.

it looks good i was expecting janky animations and weird faces like kof 14.
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#10  September 10, 2018, 06:07:52 pm
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It looks a lot like Street Fighter 4 graphically.
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^ There’s a part in the trailer where Nakoruru stabs someone and gets covered in blood spatter, so there’s definitely some level of gore happening here.

Getting some Street Fighter IV vibes from the art style.
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#12  September 10, 2018, 07:18:13 pm
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Well most big cuts have a giant blood spatter (almost as big as the characters) coming with it so yeah, there's blood, but do people get actually cut in half and such ? That'll be the question.
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#13  September 10, 2018, 08:49:50 pm
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I don't think thay want to get a PG-18 rating.
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#14  September 10, 2018, 09:49:07 pm
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I think the sumi-e/Street Fighter 4 style really suits Samurai Spirits, I'm really hoping that the soundtrack is similar to the originals too, I loved SS4's OST.

EDIT: (Just realised, the picture that states the characters is wrong... it's not Genjuro in the bottom left corner, but Wan-Fu. Genjuro has his giant ponytail, whereas Wan-Fu was almost bald.  So, the base cast is the entire SS1 line up at least!)
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#15  September 10, 2018, 10:03:29 pm
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This one does have a ponytail.
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#16  September 11, 2018, 04:52:01 am
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Daigo Ikeno (SF4 artist) is the art director for the game sooooooooooo...
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#19  September 11, 2018, 02:12:53 pm
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It takes place in 1787, a year after the events of SS5 and before the events of SS1. It is also blatantly referenced at the beginning of the trailer.

Also, despite not most likely playable (unless DLC), Gaoh (SS5 Boss) makes a cameo at the beginning.
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#20  September 11, 2018, 10:18:45 pm
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EDIT: (Just realised, the picture that states the characters is wrong... it's not Genjuro in the bottom left corner, but Wan-Fu. Genjuro has his giant ponytail, whereas Wan-Fu was almost bald.  So, the base cast is the entire SS1 line up at least!)
This one does have a ponytail.
Eventhubs has a much better screenshot
https://www.eventhubs.com/imagegallery/2018/sep/10/samurai-spirits-trailer-characters/1/
Obviously Genjuro (also obviously Tam Tam on the top left despite Eventhubs thinking it might be Wan Fu).
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#21  September 11, 2018, 11:10:31 pm
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Ah so it is, thanks for showing me the better image Byakko. It's a lot clearer!  I do hope they add more of the cast, it would be good to see Kazuki or Sougetsu again. Does seem a little odd that Gen-An wasn't in that first line up, but hey...
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Genan has not played a major role in the series since appearing in the first game.

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#23  September 12, 2018, 12:57:53 am
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iirc genan is mai's great grandfather, give a few generations.
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Oh man, i'm so happy! SamSho will back!! :D :D

Well, as it seems, will be the second prequel of the series since will be the direct sequel of SamSho V / Samurai Spirits Zero.
I hope this could be great, SamSho deserves a glorious comeback.
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What do we know from the trailer:

* The game will be set in 1787, one year after SS5 and one year before the original game.
* Haohmaru, Jubei, Nakoruru, Earthquake and Galford are confirmed.
* That picture on the trailer shows almost the entire cast from the original game plus Genjuro, with the only missing characters being Gen-An, Wan-Fu and Amakusa.
* We'll have blood. Tons of blood.
* Those grayscale on red background cut-ins will probably be fatalities/finalizations.

My predictions:

* We'll be getting the entire cast from the original game.
* Either we'll be getting a new boss, or it'll be Amakusa again.
* Since Genjuro will definitely be in as well we'll probably be getting some of the newcomers from II, III and IV as well (they're pretty much fan favorites so there's no reason to not include them).
* I doubt we'll be getting any of the newcomers from Samurai Shodown V, though since the story seems to involve him directly Yoshitora may be coming back, but that's it.
* Also doubt any of the Tenkaichi newcomer's we'll be coming back, since this game wasn't canon.
* Maybe we could get some of the characters from the 64 games, though I highly doubt it.
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#26  September 12, 2018, 05:14:30 pm
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I am placing bets on whether or not iroha will make it.
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#27  September 12, 2018, 05:53:21 pm
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That's a HUGE speculation there.
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#29  September 12, 2018, 09:14:22 pm
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Like, speculating diago was the director, the director is still oda and it seems like it's being made by the same team as kof14 and heroines, his tweet is hard to read.
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* We'll be getting the entire cast from the original game.
* Either we'll be getting a new boss, or it'll be Amakusa again.
* Since Genjuro will definitely be in as well we'll probably be getting some of the newcomers from II, III and IV as well (they're pretty much fan favorites so there's no reason to not include them).
* I doubt we'll be getting any of the newcomers from Samurai Shodown V, though since the story seems to involve him directly Yoshitora may be coming back, but that's it.
* Also doubt any of the Tenkaichi newcomer's we'll be coming back, since this game wasn't canon.
* Maybe we could get some of the characters from the 64 games, though I highly doubt it.

* Surely they'll be in. But specially i want to see Amakusa!
* These are my predictions about the characters (except Genjuro since he's already confirmed) > Amakusa, Genan, Wan-Fu, Sieger, Cham Cham, Gaira Caffeine, Rimururu, Basara, Kazuki, Sogetsu, Yoshitora and MAYBE Iroha instead she's from SamSho VI which is non-canon but Iroha is a fan favorite. I hope that Shiki will be in too, she's such a badass and a fan favorite aswell.

Don't think that Nicotine Caffeine and Rasetsumaru will be in. Yunfei, Yumeji and Mina are canonically dead so they won't be in for sure. And just forget Kusaregedo. :P
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#31  September 13, 2018, 01:29:26 am
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Shiki is a fan favorite but it always feels weird and disconnected when they just dump her in a game without going over the whole Asura storyline (i.e. almost all the games she ever showed up in), so I dunno, I feel she deserves to be kept off for a fleshed out sequel where she's actually part of the story.
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#32  September 13, 2018, 10:18:25 am
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Although Sen is universally reviled. I think one character might possibly make it. It may be Kim Hae Ryeong. Thanks to Kim Kaphwan (and to some extent, Kim Sue-il), he'll easily translate into 2D-style gameplay.

BTW, Yumeji is still alive (as a monk or something), based from Rasetsumaru's Ending.

Since the leaker got some things right, I think we'll get Shiki along the way (whether part of the initial roster or DLC, it remains to be seen).
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#33  September 13, 2018, 11:45:40 am
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hope they update charlotte's ugly ass armor and movesets .
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What about some guest characters from The Last Blade!? :thinking:
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#35  September 13, 2018, 11:52:40 am
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that's actually a great idea. but that's a full hundred years.  but seeing nakoruru is in kof14 why not.
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#36  September 13, 2018, 09:23:29 pm
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* We're likely getting the original cast save for Amakusa who has not been resurrected yet and Gen-An who is kinda a maybe because of his lack of popularity in japan.

* Genjuro, as usual, is the only character from 2 that's getting in the base game. Though Cham Cham is a very likely DLC candidate.

* Rimururu, Sogetsu, and Kazuki are safe bets as they're series staples. Shizumaru is a possiblity. It would be great now that the technology they have isn't as limited as it was back when they had to cut Shizumaru from 64 because his Umbrella was tricky for them to render.

* It is with a heavy heart I must say that my man Basara is not getting in. There doesn't seem to be a plot reason to include him and he's not exactly a very popular character in the series. My hopes are not even remotely up for him...

* I strongly doubt we're going to see anyone from 5, save maybe Rera as an alt costume or DLC. They're all either busy with more peaceful professions, dead, imprisoned, or in Rasetsumaru's case: is a severed head.

* Nobody introduced in 6 is likely to make it because the game is not canon.

* Nobody from 64 is making it in because Shiki is the only one anybody remembers and she would likely be too young to fight in this game's timeline. Nobody from Sen is going to be in either because Suzu is the only character the fans didn't hate and if she was in this game, she would be like, 4 years old or something. Those two could be DLC though, where it doesn't have to make sense. Just ask Rock.

So my prediction for the line-up is Haohmaru, Genjuro, Ukyo, Charlotte, Tam Tam, Wan Fu, Earthquake, Hanzo, Galford, Nakoruru, Rimururu, Jubei, Gen-An?, Gaira?, Kyoshiro, Kazuki, and Sogetsu. The rest of the cast is new characters.


Also, from gameplay observations I can see that Issens will be back meaning we're getting rage explosion and possibly concentration 1. Also, that stab move Nakoruru does hints to either the return of Zetsumei Ougis or the introduction of max supers. Characters get drenched in blood as the fight goes on so I don't doubt there's going to be death animations at the end of a fight regardless. The heavy hitstops on fierce slashes are back, now with instant replays (assuming that wasn't cool editing) which hints towards the return of classic Samurai Shodown gameplay.

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#37  September 14, 2018, 06:10:08 pm
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I'm interested in seeing new characters too, they must have some.
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#38  September 15, 2018, 08:39:09 pm
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Canon or not canon, Iroha will most likely make it in considering how popular that character is. Pretty sure SNK can find a way to fit her into the timeline.
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She not being canon makes it easier to fit her in, actually.
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#40  September 15, 2018, 10:08:09 pm
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Uh ? Iroha is not canon ? How is that ?
She's from... VI, right ? I never followed the Samsho timeline but Eventhubs says that's in 1799, with this game happening in 1787, that's... Well who cares she's a crane spirit right ? I don't remember her story particularly limiting the time frame in which she could possibly appear, it shouldn't be a problem to have her just be around already.
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it'll be a young hipster looking character i'm sure of that.
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Uh ? Iroha is not canon ? How is that ?
She's from... VI, right ? I never followed the Samsho timeline but Eventhubs says that's in 1799, with this game happening in 1787, that's... Well who cares she's a crane spirit right ? I don't remember her story particularly limiting the time frame in which she could possibly appear, it shouldn't be a problem to have her just be around already.

truth to be told a lto fo people are saying taht samsho tenka/iroha are not canon and I did not bother to check if it was true. As you said, she being a crane , the timeline does not matter.
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I hope Ryuhaku Todoh has a cameo again.  ;D
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Uh ? Iroha is not canon ? How is that ?
She's from... VI, right ? I never followed the Samsho timeline but Eventhubs says that's in 1799, with this game happening in 1787, that's... Well who cares she's a crane spirit right ? I don't remember her story particularly limiting the time frame in which she could possibly appear, it shouldn't be a problem to have her just be around already.
6 is a dream match game with no actual bearing on the story, so as it stands she is currently non-canon along with Magaoh, Andrew, Ochamaru, and Suguroko. Granted this game can change that.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#46  September 16, 2018, 02:09:02 pm
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You all know what character is the best and most worthy choice of them all;

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You all know what character is the best and most worthy choice of them all;

I just guess that is a Joke right? ö.ö

I don't see why not.

Uh ? Iroha is not canon ? How is that ?
She's from... VI, right ? I never followed the Samsho timeline but Eventhubs says that's in 1799, with this game happening in 1787, that's... Well who cares she's a crane spirit right ? I don't remember her story particularly limiting the time frame in which she could possibly appear, it shouldn't be a problem to have her just be around already.

To recap, Tenkaichi only has a small excuse that Yoshitora and Andrew are hosting a festival to sign good relations between their countries. Iroha, Sugoroku and Ochamaru are basically staff of this festival, not having much story beyond that. Demon Gaoh on the other hand is just a space flea. As said before, the game is a dream match with the entire roster of the previous five games, influding the canonically dead characters.
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Haha, of course it was a joke.

Still, there are some other SNK owned characters that I'd love to see crossing over to the Samurai Shodown universe. These are actual personal wants. I might just go through some from the actual series soon.

From the Last Blade franchise;

Kaede.

Zantetsu.

And

Hibiki.


From World Heroes;

Hanzo or Fuuma.

and/or

Janne.
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#52  September 16, 2018, 06:42:00 pm
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What's with the Kusaregedo hate? Did you all get rolled over by good 'Gedo players when SSVSP came out on PSN :3c? He's a much better character than Iroha anyways.

I will admit he has like, zero chances to be in this game sadly.


it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#53  September 16, 2018, 07:21:23 pm
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It's unfortunate, but his chances are pretty much 0% since Earthquake is in. BAA
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#54  September 16, 2018, 07:30:25 pm
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Haha, of course it was a joke.
;D

Still, there are some other SNK owned characters that I'd love to see crossing over to the Samurai Shodown universe. These are actual personal wants. I might just go through some from the actual series soon.

From the Last Blade franchise;

Kaede.

Zantetsu.

And

Hibiki.


From World Heroes;

Hanzo or Fuuma.

and/or

Janne.

They are all good choices and if they put Last Blade Characters into the Game as non-canon DLC, then they probably add Kaede.

I would realy like to see Shikyoh/Mukuro and Akari, they have fighting styles that are not already featured in Samurai Showdown in some way.
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#55  September 16, 2018, 07:52:34 pm
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It's unfortunate, but his chances are pretty much 0% since Earthquake is in. BAA
They're completely different archetypes to be fair, but if this game is to have a grappler it's gonna be Gaira and any new characters long before 'Gedo.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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Gedo is just an uncool design, he has no cool poses or anything, even earthquake has some, Gedo is just ugly.
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Nothing is cooler (And more adorable) than the Shark Butt.

It's ok buddy I'll protect you from these unenlightened guilders just don't bite my fingers off as I pet you...

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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Kusaregedo isn't meant to be cool, he's meant to be creepy and funny, and he succeeds at both.
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Isn't he cheap? Or just top tier?
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Kusaregedo won't happen if even Gen-An can't get into the reboot(?).

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#61  September 17, 2018, 02:42:16 am
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#62  September 17, 2018, 02:45:45 am
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Kusaregedo is top tier in Samurai Shodown 5 and 5 special. He's bottom tier in Samurai Shodown Tenka.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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Kusaregedo is top tier in Samurai Shodown 5 and 5 special. He's bottom tier in Samurai Shodown Tenka.

Really? Is that because of the command throw shenanigans or is your favoritism for Kusaregedo showing up again?
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#64  September 17, 2018, 05:31:04 am
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It's not my tier list, I'm citing japanese tier lists. It's the Sharkbutt into 'Gedo slam,  his stupid good normals, he can control how you can even approach him with his vomit, and his range more than offsets his total lack of mobility with the fact that you are in danger absolutely everywhere.

In Tenka though, he's nerfed and just total juggle bait.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#65  September 18, 2018, 06:44:35 pm
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will they add any sen characters in this game? i really like suzu's design and weapon.
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More than likely not, given that Sen killed the franchise and this game is trying to revive it. It is true that Suzu is the one thing fans remember about the game but she would be like, 4 years old in this timeline.

...Wait I mean what the heck is Samurai Shodown Sen. That game never happened.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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who cares about the timeline as long as fans are pleased.

sen was a good game , the problem why it didn't do so good in sales is it's an xbox exclusive game. if it was on ps we might've seen a different outcome.

i did like the gore in that game it was limited to 3 or 4 death scenes and no special ones for each character like the older ones but at least they have it.

i don't think sen killed the franchise imo it was 6
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#68  September 19, 2018, 06:39:07 am
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Had Samurai Shodown Sen actually existed, it would've flopped horribly not only because it was exclusive to a console that wasn't very popular in japan but also because the radical departure from its roots to be more like a flawed Namco fighter would cause a number of fans to feel like SNK landed a fierce slash in their backs.

Luckily, Samurai Shodown Sen never happened and it was 6 that the franchise died. Again. Though as a series swan song it wouldn't be a terrible one. Like, having all the characters with some new ones and the grooves gave fans a content packed game and the revamped combo mechanics interested some non fans.  A shame about the loss of blood and death animations due to modern japanese arcade game content policies but what'ya gonna do.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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what are amputation effects? breaking bones right?
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what are amputation effects? breaking bones right?

If it's getting an 18+ rating (which I believe is the Japanese equal to our 'M' rating), then I have reason to believe that the effects are going to be cutting off arms and legs for finishing moves. It's not like this series hasn't dabbled in that before.
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actually the samsho  games where you can't cut people in half, behead or amputate are the exception, not the rule.
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That damage output, wtf...
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Is that a normal to special cancel?
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The second one is after a disarm so maybe Galford had reduced defense, and the first looks like normal to super cancel ?
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Actually, I never played a SamSho character in mugen, still tho, seems too much even for SamSho standards.
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well its over the top in the spirit of the games so im fine with it
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#83  February 27, 2019, 02:57:36 pm
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Don't forget the damage output when you have a full super bar is always daft in SamSho. You had to make sure you didn't leave yourself wide open for a heavy slash or worse when the opponent had full meter.

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In samsho3 you wasted any opponent with 3-4 hard (C) slashes. When you countered this way, it worked even faster.
I always thought this being a "tribute" to the sword wielding in that game & made it rather tactical.

This new installment looks great & far more fluid than the combo system in samsho4.
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#85  February 27, 2019, 03:13:03 pm
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yeah samsho is a pretty fast paced game one wrong whiff and you could instantly die.
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-Ash- you clearly never played a Samurai Shodown game period.

Haohmaru's steel breaker slash always did that.


The series usually is not really about combos (Though links and hitconfirms still exist, contrary to what a number of mugen creators strangely seem to believe) as much as it about spacing, good neutral, making good reads, and landing devastating punishes.

From what it looks like in the trailer, not only do we have classic Samurai Shodown gameplay back, but notice Jubei and Haohmaru's DPs at the beginning. We're apparently getting rage enhanced special moves (A mechanic introduced in 4 and dropped beginning with 5) back.

Is that a normal to special cancel?
Yes. And those are a thing in the series. Again, contrary to what some MUGEN converters seemed to assume.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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The series usually is not really about combos (Though links and hitconfirms still exist, contrary to what a number of mugen creators strangely seem to believe) as much as it about spacing, good neutral, making good reads, and landing devastating punishes.
One of the reasons I kinda like its simplicity, shame I never understood how to execute their fatalities.
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One of the reasons I kinda like its simplicity, shame I never understood how to execute their fatalities.

Samsho fatalities always had some extra requirements that needed to be fulfilled in the battle before you where even able to use them if i remember it right.
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i think more samsho chars must be converted to CVS style or another modern style too.

sometimes the creators forget to use other chars for convertion and repeating the same chars at inumerous versions.
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One of the reasons I kinda like its simplicity, shame I never understood how to execute their fatalities.

Samsho fatalities always had some extra requirements that needed to be fulfilled in the battle before you where even able to use them if i remember it right.
I thought it was just activate some rage mode or something, but even then, I couldn't pull it off.

i think more samsho chars must be converted to CVS style or another modern style too.

sometimes the creators forget to use other chars for convertion and repeating the same chars at inumerous versions.
Well, Warusaki3 made CvS versions of SamSho characters which actually appeared in CvS, as well as some original ones, the thing is: lots of creators try to "convert" characters and end up making crap versions of them.
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In IV, it was a special motion you did in the deciding round only if the final hit makes the opponent lean forward. Then you do down, down, up, forward, forward+C for the finisher (or it was known in this game, a 'No Contest' move)

In V Special, you had to go into rage mode, then do D, DB, B+CD for your finishing move.

Outside of those two games, finishing an opponent tends to be random.
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#93  February 28, 2019, 01:29:35 am
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i think more samsho chars must be converted to CVS style or another modern style too.
No.

Now on the actual topic of talking about Samurai Shodown and not someone's MUGEN wish list...

I am assuming Macaulyn97 is referring to Samurai Shodown 5 special's Zetsumei Ougis.

*You need to be on your match deciding round.
*Your opponent's life bar must be at the point where it's glowing blue.
* You must be in Rage Explosion (A+B+C) and you must execute the Zetsumei Ougi before the meter runs out.
* Enter QCB, C+D on someone that's either really distracted, slow to react, or really committed to a false move.

I must wonder if that mechanic will return in this entry given the game's rating and that clip of a blood drenched Nakoruru reluctantly stabbing someone off camera.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#94  February 28, 2019, 03:49:09 am
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The blood splatters remaining on the attacking character's face during the match is already pretty brutal. Like battle damage but with your enemy's blood. It looks to me like they're going all in with that stuff, so anything's on the table IMO, as long as they're ready to model it for everyone. And since they're also going for that "classic" appeal, I'm expecting heads to pop and bodies to be sliced open.
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Sooo have they revealed stuff on rosters? Seems like the SS1/SS2 crowd are shoe-ins. I'd like to see Enja, Yoshitora, Andrew, Sieger and a couple others.
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Nothing new so far. I feel like the roster is gonna pretty much be most of the original cast (Likely no Amakusa and probably no Gen-An though), Genjuro, maybe Rimururu, maybe the brothers Kazama, and new guys. My hopes are not high for anyone from 5 or 6. Also, my hopes are not high for my boy Basara ;_;

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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I always forget about Rimururu, its like she's constantly living in Nakoruru's shadow.

A Basara rendered like the models in this game would be sick. Genjuro and the brothers are also likely choices. I'll honestly be happy with just my ride or dies Gen-An and Kyoshiro tho
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Kyoshiro is a safe bet. He's a mainstay since the original game, absent only from 64, 64-2, and Warriors Rage (All of which being early 3D games when SNK was just learning that stuff so probably not wanting to render his hair at the time)

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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we gonna get mina again so someone can report the game for brutalizing their favorite waifu?
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Pffft hahahahaha! Sadly she kinda already killed herself after having to put down Chample so likely no.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.

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IIRC, the rage-enhancement was there since samsho3.
I recall Kibagami to have a devastating uppercut move. Including a second swirl & a bat down with the girl's face in the fx for it.

Also I'm pretty sure the "no contest" finisher was even shown on screen & was the same for all chars in samsho4.

IMHO samsho4 was the first to break with the basic charm of the series.
Having the "no contest" move & a combo-launcher. But it allowed for extremely long ones, when additionally enraged.
Though the damage dampening on them still had the normal heavy slash being favourable on damage output against a careless opponent.

Most underrated move was the half-circle forward for parry throughout. Hope that one is still in this upcoming installment.
Using that even boosted the counter percentage..

Never got into 5 myself, so I can't tell for that one.

I also guess, the cast should have the stickies. So I hope they count in Hanzo & Galford as well & my favorite of samsho3 (felt kinda nerfed in 4) Tachibana Ukyo.

Always loved Basara myself, but always hated the move separation. Usually I played the bust setup, but loved the vanishing move & the special on normal way more. The former being rather pointless used against the CPU...
If they would bring TamTam back, that would be awesome as well.
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Samurai Shodown 3 didn't have rage enhanced specials. The enhanced Genjuro DP was in 4.

Also Deflects are back, as Haohmaru pulls one off on Galford in that trailer.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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mina was a cool character in tenka. now i wanna play tenka again, i had it on the wii. wonder if theres a netplay community
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I'm curious if Rera will be playnable at some point or if they just go for the "Purple Nakoruru" in that game.
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Honestly, it would be pretty bullshit if they didn't include the whole original cast sans Amakusa maybe, this game being set right before the first game and all.
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all this talk about samsho makes me miss the old arcade joint i used to hangout. they got a pretty decent collection too.

hope they keep some engrish dialogues for the characters , haohmaru's let's blade boogie and galford's saying hey poppy and WRECK!!!!! everytime he does his fatality..
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Now I'm curious if this game will be jump in combo friendly playing more like a CPS2 Capcom game. I remember doing  a lot of jump in combo with Haohmaru in the SNES version.

all this talk about samsho makes me miss the old arcade joint i used to hangout. they got a pretty decent collection too.

I missed the old days of 2D but SNK China has to make more money. At least they've learned their lesson not to make another inaccessible game like NBGC or SVC targeted solely to the SNK/KOF purist market.
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didn't like ngbc , but they have cool looking protags too bad their movesets are lazy and awful looking.

hope they add at least one last blade character even if it's a dlc. i'll gladly pay for it. or suzu from samsho sen.

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I had the same problem wiht nbc that i had with svc; it feels liek crippled kof. AOF, samsho, fatalfury , they all feel like their own games, nbc and svc feel like kof with less mobility.


Honestly, it would be pretty bullshit if they didn't include the whole original cast sans Amakusa maybe, this game being set right before the first game and all.

First time I hear that, good to know, tho I wish it was set far back enough so that they can add some characters from the prequels.
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Now I'm curious if this game will be jump in combo friendly playing more like a CPS2 Capcom game. I remember doing  a lot of jump in combo with Haohmaru in the SNES version.
Jump-Ins are a fighting game thing in general, not just a capcom thing. SNK definately loves its jump-ins with KOF. Samurai Shodown is actually not an exception. Charlotte is known for doing some nasty jump-ins do to her cross-up friendly air heavy and her hefty yaccel. My Basara tactics often utilize the soul sphere and a wall jump cross-up jump heavy. Ideally, the jump heavy connects, then the Soul Sphere, and then I do another heavy which won't actually make the opponent fall because it doesn't count as doing 2 heavies in a row: meaning I have mix-ups. It's just you can't air block so you can't just attempt jump-ins whenever you want.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#113  February 28, 2019, 06:52:25 pm
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First time I hear that, good to know, tho I wish it was set far back enough so that they can add some characters from the prequels.

V was the only prequel and was set two years before the first game. This one is set between the two.
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#114  February 28, 2019, 07:07:02 pm
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iirc, were not ukyo and nako supossed to have died in 2 and so 3 also comes before 2?
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#115  February 28, 2019, 07:17:13 pm
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Ukyo keeps thinking he's going to die from his illness but he ends up not dying.

Nakoruru doesn't actually die so much as transcends humanity and becomes one with nature to heal it from the damage caused by Mizuki's attempt to merge earth with the demon realm. Basically, she becomes an avatar at the end of 2. She can regain her physical form during times of need such as the events of Samurai Shodown 64 and 64-2.

The timeline order goes
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This upcoming one
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Some terrible nightmare of a game that never actually happened.
Warriors Rage

5 Special and 6 are dream match games and not really part of the time line.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#116  February 28, 2019, 09:58:09 pm
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Thanks for the timeline.

Now I want iroha to be there, if just because snk needs to sell extra merchandise.
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Looks like SNK's owners are doing this one on their own and not lending outside to publish.
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#122  March 25, 2019, 02:43:07 pm
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play of game

People are also saying that Shiki and Yoshitora are confirmed but I don't have enough time to watch all 44 minutes to confirm.
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Yes they're 100% confirmed!!!
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Great to see Yoshitora and Shiki. I'm relived the roster won't be limited to the earlier games.
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I wonder if Kuroko is gonna make it and do moves from newer SNK chars like Shun-Ei and Najd?
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#127  March 25, 2019, 06:27:51 pm
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Yoshitora and Shiki getting in dispells my theories on who will and won't be in the line-up which is actually really good. It opens the door on some really pleasing surprises.

Or would if we didn't only have 1-2 unrevealed returning characters left. DLC will be fun though.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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Cool to have Shiki in a Samurai Shospirits game for once.
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#130  March 25, 2019, 08:36:38 pm
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Damn, look how high Haohmaru flies with his Kogetsuzan.
And that Senpuu Retsuzan tornado effect reminds me of Joe's tornado in CvS2, visually.
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Wonder who will be the boss of this game?
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Yes they're 100% confirmed!!!
This looks hot  :truestory: I am surprised to see Shiki in, now this makes me wonder if there will be a chance to see Asura in, maybe he might be DLC character  :P
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I believe this will have a new boss, like it always happened in previous games. Would be cool if Ambrosia finally appeared as an actual boss.

I'm also hoping they announce Gen-An and Wan Fu, so far they're the only characters from the original cast still missing.
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I'm kind of hoping they bring back Zankuro for the final boss. He was a legit threat as a big man who could swing a mean sword.
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i missed the half second clip of hanzo. does this mean gen-an is the only original rep left to be confirmed? or did i somehow miss him too
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