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Started by Shamrock, May 19, 2010, 06:08:57 pm
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#1  May 19, 2010, 06:08:57 pm
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I woke up all happy. School is out and the economy leaves me with no work, so I just got up and was enjoying a Baileys filled Coffee. My happy ass danced over to my computer while drinking from the mug without spilling it. Then I got a phone call, of should I say a future booty call (Hell yeah it is going to be a good weekend)

In short I was having the perfect morning, but then

Fucking Vozilla sends me this.

you either...

- are comfortable with lying to back your friend rajaa
- forgot what you said regarding gill to me
- twisted the truth to whatever ends

you never said anything about some warning about do not flame gill. what you said was do not post in that thread. for you to say you gave such a warning in the admin thread is as fucked up as rajaa banning due to future intentions.

also, had you said warning to never flame gill i'd have gone off as he is the one always instigating everything. plus, your on drugs if you do not think he did not think he was wanting to take a shot at CVG in that request thread.

i stopped giving a shit about what makes you happy when you showed yourself to be a hypocrit. and its a fact, you posted in the admin board you gave me some warning about flaming gill, when you did not. all you said was don't post in response to gill's flame because darkflare needs some message.

i probably would have to begin with, but rajaa turned off my pm's with that ban. for now, there is no point in appealing as can't go back in time. but that said, due to how things went down, i can think what i want about you and rajaa both.

He is saying I'm lying about something and something, says Rajaa stopped him from sending PMs I tried explaining that we can't do that, it is a forum software issues and that I told Val (Actually Iced) about and now he won't believe me unless Val tells that to him.

I've returned to these PMs in a rather rude manner. I don't take well to being called a liar.

I can no longer ban him or anything at this point though, because I'm to involved.

So Discuss.
Last Edit: May 19, 2010, 06:33:30 pm by Shamrock
Re: Vozilla
#2  May 19, 2010, 08:09:44 pm
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He was banned because he sent me a rude personal message saying that he would not listen to what I say and that he would continue to poke shots at Gill. So, yeah I banned him because of what he said he would do, and if I catch him doing it again I will ban him even longer.

He acts like banning somebody to prevent future disruptions is bad, when it is not.

He's very immature and doesn't know how to handle situations; judging by his behavior during the chess game, the angry pm he sent me because I told him to stop bickering with Gill, and the current user name and signature he has.

Here's the pm, I posted it in the public staff thread earlier.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

In short, don't take his long personal messages of personal insults too hard. You're not too involved to ban him. He's being a dick because he's accusing people of ridiculous things yet he fails to see the problem, himself. It's common for people to want to blame their faults on other people. He is wrong, he is not in anyway right at this point.
Re: Vozilla
#3  May 19, 2010, 08:15:50 pm
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That reminds me. In a Pm I got on MI from him, said that you banned him because you were upset about a conversation in the chess thread. He basically said it was a way of getting even LOL.

He is pissing me off.

Also no. I can't mod him, because I've reacted badly to his stupid bullshit. Here is an example.

Shut up.

Stop fucking crying to me about Rajaa banning you. Accusing me of lying about anything in a PM is not going to make me happy.

I don't have to justify anything to you. I will, in the hopes that you will shut the fuck up. I did send a warning to gill. I don't work for you. I do not need to tell you everyone I send a Pm to, even Gill.

As far as Rajaa goes, he has a level head and is someone I usually agree with and respect. I no longer respect you, because of your recent behavior and the way you have treated me and my fellow staff.

In short, stop crying like a little girl.
Re: Vozilla
#4  May 19, 2010, 08:20:00 pm
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I don't see why he's still picking at that nonsense. He's still hurt over not getting an undo. And he's still hurt over being banned. He needs to learn to let things that don't really matter go.


Oh wow, yeah, you pretty much hurt his feelings. If you ban him now, you'll be doing it out of personal bias. =D
Re: Vozilla
#5  May 19, 2010, 08:22:39 pm
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I also forgot that when I kept removing his flame, he said that he would let it go, if I gave him Gill's IP address.

I told him that he must have lost his fucking mind.

Someone other than me, babysit this fucking guy. If I have to deal with him anymore, I'm going to get personal with him, and no one wants to see that.
Re: Vozilla
#6  May 19, 2010, 08:25:19 pm
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I also forgot that when I kept removing his flame, he said that he would let it go, if I gave him Gill's IP address.


Wow, seriously? That is going too far for an internet grudge. He wears his heart on his shoulder. Poor boy.
Re: Vozilla
#7  May 19, 2010, 08:29:32 pm
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#8  May 19, 2010, 10:11:18 pm
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For a brief period (following the Tony 3rd "scandal") I placed myself on "Receive PMs from Admins and Friends only" to silence people who were continuing it.

I believe he tried to send ME PMs during that time, because I received one at Renegade MUGEN about his ban (which I don't even visit) asking if his PMs were disabled which may have caused him to think his PMs were disabled, then just now when I ninja checked my account at work, he sent another PM.

Spoiler: PM with my reply attached (click to see content)

That's all I have to say on the subject for now.
you can't mixup a blind man, and you can't out think a brick ~skisonic
Street fighting is all about analysis, prediction, and reaction. That's it.

Re: Vozilla
#9  May 19, 2010, 11:46:39 pm
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tell you what, i will drop everything if you tell me orochi gill's ip. you have no idea how badly i want to add a ban trigger for that at CVG.

What the hell? o_O

This Vozilla person clearly has issues.

Although (if I get this right) he's still banned right now, correct? We can't really do much while he's banned.

His attitude is really... bad (after reading some of his posts). He actually seems to be looking for trouble.

For now I think it'd be best to keep things cool and see what he does. Maybe give him a honest warning when his ban period is over, possibly under the public staff topic and backed up with this discussion.

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Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 12:04:56 am by Vans
Re: Vozilla
#10  May 19, 2010, 11:56:35 pm
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nah, he got unbanned, the ban lasted a week.

Spoiler: =O (click to see content)

Banned. One Week. I gave Orochi Gill the same warning and he didn't respond this way at all. All he said was that he has told Volzilla the same thing. Which he has.
Re: Vozilla
#11  May 23, 2010, 03:08:13 pm
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http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115490.0

first check out the thread title of the previous one


now read up on this

this is pretty much bullshit how shamrock acts. he's on drugs if he doesn't believe gill wasn't flame baiting. total hypocrite. and this is the 3rd time he's done this.

i'm on permanent warning to where if i say a damn thing to gill i'm in trouble...and you know gill knows this. heck, i even tried to respond to a flame of his and shamrock wouldnt let me...but he sure as hell didnt care that the dickhead flamed me to begin with.

and regarding that incident i just spoke of, shamrock lied in the warning thread saying he warned me about flaming gill. what he said was he did not want me responding to gill's flame because darkflare needed to see some message.

not to mention, i still think its pretty fucked up that rajaa banned me from posting and being able to send pm's for a week due to "future intentions"


now, on to his sig.
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The new name means this: Apparently i got banned because Rajaa is so sure I will do something in the future. I'm convicted of something I have not done yet? And did no one take into account I was venting due to who it was from staff giving whatever warnings, since I thought Rajaa=douche before it all.

In short, it's pretty fucked up that I got banned for something I have not done but someone thinks I might do in the future.

I don't know my future intentions until they happen, so for someone else to claim they know them and convict me on what they think will happen already is crazy fucked up.

and some people still think its a graceful powerful thing to act as janitorial staff, sheesh...
Steps towards vollzilla? While  I could try to calm him down this has happened a lot, should we do something about orochi? He keeps attracting negative attention
Re: Vozilla
#12  May 23, 2010, 04:05:00 pm
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I've never seen that thread(split). He has issues. Certainly, he does.


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I don't know my future intentions until they happen,

Lol? This makes no sense, and neither does his ranting. I sent Gill the same warning I sent Volzilla. Gill accepted it, and I haven't seen anything since. Then I again, I haven't been keeping an eye out for them like I should. The reason he was banned in the first place was, as I mentioned,  because he said he doesn't care what I say and that he's going to do what he wants, I had to show him that that's not how it's going to go down, ever.


Gill attracts negativity, but he never blows his head like the people who are attracted. It's a amazing, it makes you think if he's even part of the negative attention that he attracts. I personally think it' because he has no emotion and tone in his posts. No smileys or anything, people are intimidated and get his messages taken the wrong way, maybe.

Then there are the times when he is flame baiting, and even still never puts any emotion into it. So you can't be sure. He usually states what I would call "facts," except for the ones that are clearly opinion. I think if he's convinced to not always post even if he has something to say, then a lot of negativity could be avoided. Anyways, everyone has some negativity towards them ;people that hate them. Gills amount of enemies don't exceed any amount from any active user in the community. Some people just don't get a long.

Volzilla, needs to be told his place, and he needs to stay in it. He can't do whatever he wants. he can't say he won't be listening to the moderator who's moderating him. He's not an internet gangsta, and he has problems. If he wants to add a ban trigger to somebody who doesn't even visit his forum, and his way of obtaining the ban trigger is through bribe, he most certainly has issues.
Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 04:09:00 pm by Malisa Persaud
Re: Vozilla
#13  May 23, 2010, 04:08:23 pm
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Volzilla is the MFG terrorist.
Re: Vozilla
#14  May 23, 2010, 08:45:19 pm
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Every time I warn Gill. He listens. What more should be done?

And Vozilla is a freaking drama queen. Frankly I'm tired of his shit. I've been keeping him and gill from flaming each other on this forum for years. Both would back off in the past, but now Vozilla has gone off the deep end.

If I don't mod gill the way Vozilla want him modded (Also known as a permaban) then we are not doing our jobs. Listen Vozilla is not a mod, Rajaa and I are the mods.

So tell Vozilla if he doesn't like the way we run this forum, he is welcome to go to another.

Keep in mind that this Vozilla character used to defend us and say we were the best mods, as soon as we don't take his side or should I say, give into his demands, then we are scum.
Re: Vozilla
#15  May 24, 2010, 11:36:51 pm
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Vollzilla, I have reviewed your case, checked up everything.
Truth is, you and gill have been going at each other far too often, and you went and on top of not accepting when a moderator asked you to step back, you even asked him for Gill Ip. As if you could force them to do something in order to keep you being civil.

There isnt much to say here, except what everyone already said, stop arguing with Gill, everytime you do it, you lose your cool absolutely while he walks off calm and collected, no moderator can do anything when they tell both people to stop, one stops and the other flies off the handle.
Being insultive towards rajaa and shamrock doesnt make you look any better either.

Reconsider if thats the attitude you want to show others.


For your appreciation before I send.
Re: Vozilla
#16  May 24, 2010, 11:49:18 pm
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Cool
Re: Vozilla
#17  May 25, 2010, 01:15:41 am
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Change insultive to insulting.

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and you went and on top of not accepting when a moderator asked you to step back, you even asked him for Gill Ip.
Needs rewording as well. I think removing "and you went and"

would do it.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: Vozilla
#18  May 25, 2010, 01:29:19 am
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Vollzilla, I have reviewed your case, checked up everything.
Truth is, you and gill have been going at each other far too often,  you went and on top of not accepting when a moderator asked you to step back, you even asked him for Gill Ip. As if you could force them to do something in order to keep you being civil.

There isnt much to say here, except what everyone already said, stop arguing with Gill, everytime you do it, you lose your cool absolutely while he walks off calm and collected, no moderator can do anything when they tell both people to stop, one stops and the other flies off the handle.
Being insulting towards rajaa and shamrock doesnt make you look any better either.

Reconsider if thats the attitude you want to show others.
Re: Vozilla
#19  May 25, 2010, 01:32:55 am
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Lets edit this.

Vollzilla, I have reviewed your case and investigated the situation.
Truth is, you and gill have been going at each other far too often. You also failed to accept when a moderator asked you to step back. You even went as far as to ask for Gill's Ip in exchange for your civility.

I have nothing to add to what my Moderators already told you. Stop arguing with Gill. When you argue with him and lose your cool, Gill walks off calm and collected and listens to the moderators. When a moderator tells both people to stop and one stops while the other flies off the handle, the moderator can't do anything to the person who stopped.
Being insulting towards rajaa and shamrock doesnt make you look any better either.

Reconsider if that is the attitude you want to show others.


Fixed
Re: Vozilla
#20  May 25, 2010, 01:49:42 am
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Vollzilla, The tyrant has reviewed your case and investigated the situation and all pertaining matters to the full extent of its abilities.
Verily, Subject Vollzilla and subject gill have been in discord in far too many occasions. Orders and requests by moderation staff have been ignored when presented and outright denied. There are records of user vollzilla requesting User Gill's Ip in exchange for his civility. A sort of bribe, must investigate further.

There is little to add to what the moderation staff has already informed you.
Stop discord with User Gill. the outcome of the small fights between both users are followed by User gill leaving calm and collected and user vollzilla on a state of mental disarray. When moderation staff issues requests to both persons to stop bouting and one obeys while the other doesnt the staff cant do anything more than process the one that doesnt stop to the full extent of the law.

Being insulting towards rajaa and shamrock is justified, they are ugly.

Reconsider if that is the attitude you want to show others.


Futher Fixed
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Re: Vozilla
#21  May 25, 2010, 01:54:56 am
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We are the MugenGuild Staff. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Re: Vozilla
#22  May 26, 2010, 12:46:31 am
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im gonna need feedback from rajaa before processing this. since it involves him.
Re: Vozilla
#23  May 26, 2010, 01:02:05 am
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Vollzilla, The tyrant has reviewed your case and investigated the situation and all pertaining matters to the full extent of its abilities.
Verily, Subject Vollzilla and subject gill have been in discord in far too many occasions. Orders and requests by moderation staff have been ignored when presented and outright denied. There are records of user vollzilla requesting User Gill's Ip in exchange for his civility. A sort of bribe, must investigate further.

There is little to add to what the moderation staff has already informed you.
Stop discord with User Gill. the outcome of the small fights between both users are followed by User gill leaving calm and collected and user vollzilla on a state of mental disarray. When moderation staff issues requests to both persons to stop bouting and one obeys while the other doesnt the staff cant do anything more than process the one that doesnt stop to the full extent of the law.

Being insulting towards rajaa and shamrock is justified, they are ugly.

Reconsider if that is the attitude you want to show others.


Futher Fixed

LMAO! AT THIS ONE!


But seriously, I think the serious one is fine. Except in the last part I would change it all together.

From this:

Reconsider if that is the attitude you want to show others.

To this:

Change the way you act towards others. The way you have been handling other people and situations is not only rude, but it far from guarantees you any justification for your actions on this forum. Your incorrect, misguided, unjustifiable persistence has become quite a nuisance, and if you continue to act the way you have been acting, we will have to move beyond textual negotiation to settle this matter.
Re: Vozilla
#24  May 26, 2010, 02:24:03 pm
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Vollzilla, I have reviewed your case and investigated the situation.
Truth is, you and gill have been going at each other far too often. You also failed to accept when a moderator asked you to step back. You even went as far as to ask for Gill's Ip in exchange for your civility.

As it was already told you. Stop arguing with Gill. When you argue with him and lose your cool, Gill walks off calm and collected and listens to the moderators. When a moderator tells both people to stop and one stops while the other flies off the handle, the moderator can't do anything to the person that stopped and complied.
Being insulting towards rajaa and shamrock doesnt make you look any better either.

Reconsider if that is the attitude you want to show others.
The way you have persisted in handling other people and situations is not only rude, but it far from guarantees you any justification for your actions on this forum.


Seriously? Asking for his ip as a exchange coin? For shame.

Sending now
Re: Vozilla
#25  May 26, 2010, 04:27:44 pm
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first, the ip thing was partially a joke.

second. i f'n hate rajaa. hate him. he acted like a dick to me in a chess match. it turned into a case where ever single move he was saying something incredibly rude. this was before his mod deal.

again, did no one see that i said i might have been somewhat receptive to whatever if someone else said it?

and shamrock is biased, plain and simple. i've reported all kinds of flame baits by gill, and they are dismissed by him every time. there shouldnt be any kind of flames coming my way from that asshole anymore anyway. if i'm on constant alert to where i can't say shit to him (the reason for the ban) then the same should be on him period...especially since 9 times out of 10 he initiates everything. hell, more than that. the one time i ever initiated anything was in that thread.

i mean, how can i not be pissed off. gill's been a total thorn in my side forever, and pretty much not shit done to him ever. little tip, he ignores whatever little comments whoever says to him. you might think other wise, but then explain to me why he has to keep pick, pick, picking again later. i start something 1 time and i get modded by a person i f'n hate because i think he's a POS. so obviously, its gonna be hard to keep cool. but not only that, he removed my pm ability too
Re: Vozilla
#26  May 26, 2010, 04:38:27 pm
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lol.

I love how every faction on here says I'm bias. If that was the case, wouldn't one club of people say I wasn't. You can't be bias when everyone hates you lol. If you ban them you are bias, if you don't ban who they want you to ban, you are bias.

Ok joking aside.

He told you the same thing he told the rest of us, I'm not listening to you, and I don't care what you say. That is what I read. He is still even claiming that Rajaa stopped his PMs after at least two mods, Mods that don't even like each other, told him that Rajaa can't do that.

I say we just make this thread public so everyone has a laugh, and the next time he does something he gets banned. In fact, why are we being so nice to this guy?
Last Edit: May 26, 2010, 08:36:05 pm by Shamrock
Re: Vozilla
#27  May 26, 2010, 08:30:16 pm
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Screw him and his ranting. If he acts up, he gets punished. Doesn't have anything to do with a chess match; Doesn't have anything to do with Shamrock, because Shamrock had nothing to do with him being banned; Doesn't have anything to do with being biased. He said he wasn't going to listen, so he was banned. If he wants to try it again, he'll get the same results.

Leave him alone. He got his punishment, it's expired. Stop letting him punish us with his stupid ridicules and ranting. He's not doing anything but blaming-blaming-blaming-accusing-accusing-accusing. I don't care if he hates me. Him hating me is like Wolfmage loving Nekosage, it doesn't make any sense, and I really, really don't care.
Re: Vozilla
#28  May 26, 2010, 08:43:00 pm
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On that note; Orochi Gill doesn't necessarily take part in the argument, but he is extremely coy about instigating and probably needs to be punished for it at some time, it's unrealistic for us to expect someone to not respond to someone's constant badgering.
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Re: Vozilla
#29  May 26, 2010, 10:30:55 pm
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needs to be punished

You scare the shit out of me. I think you mean, how do we improve his behavior?

Gill basically is very critical of releases, yet he does give feedback more than a lot of the followers of the release's bitch-a-thons.

Almost everyone he has problems with is because he was critical of their releases. I remember why him and Vozilla starting go at it, "It was because Voz keep posting shit about his blog everywhere, and GIll kept report it and talking shit in all the threads. The solution was to combine the threads, tell Voz to post only in one thread, and tell Gill to leave him alone.

The problem was solved except the hatred between them.

If anyone has any ideas about how to make these forum feuds (which Gill has a few) go away I'm all ears.
Re: Vozilla
#30  May 26, 2010, 10:59:42 pm
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Thing is, after Gill has made his original and very prickly feedback (like tengu sorta) he doesn't pursue it. If users post things they should expect bad as well as good. Going off cos it's Gill and he posts like that to everyone is irrational.


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They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: Vozilla
#31  May 26, 2010, 11:40:28 pm
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Um no, I really mean needs to be punished, how long has he constantly been a catalyst. It's not Him Vs 1 person anymore, it's him vs a group of people, sometimes several groups of people. Wow you're so quick to ban people who were reported, but never look at the other side of the spectrum, and you're the one that's scared? HIlarious
you can't mixup a blind man, and you can't out think a brick ~skisonic
Street fighting is all about analysis, prediction, and reaction. That's it.

Re: Vozilla
#32  May 27, 2010, 12:55:29 am
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I'll tell you what, you feel he should be "punished", go ahead punish him. Punish the guy on the internet. Get vengeance for all those people.

BURN HIM!

BURN HIM!

It is the internet. You can't punish him. What are you gunna do, give him a computer virus?

Yeah anyone who takes the internet as serious as you is a scares me. I worry for their health.
Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 01:26:22 am by Shamrock
Re: Vozilla
#33  May 27, 2010, 02:54:47 am
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It's not him vs anyone. I haven't seen him sit there arguing with someone for ages. He makes a post (unfair or not, whatever) and people attack him for it. If they dislike him they need to ignore it rather than rant. Or report things. I haven't seen many reports regarding him lately either.

I may not do much in reports but i check there relatively often and Gill hasn't been a massive target for how seriously this seems to be taken.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: Vozilla
#34  May 27, 2010, 03:15:57 am
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No lately he has been fine. In fact I haven't seen a major problem from him or Voz in over a year. That was until Voz decided he would no longer dial it back when we say to do so.
Re: Vozilla
#35  May 28, 2010, 12:32:47 am
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1: it has been proven that volzilla is an idiot and if he keeps being an idiot feel free to ban him. his behavior doesn't seem to improve
2: orochi gill really gets away with being a shithead most of the time and needs at least to be warned

any further questions
Re: Vozilla
#36  June 12, 2010, 06:21:54 am
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And another short argument with him in which he has overreacted to something Gill said. I have warned Gill off the topic and the type of comment he was making that volzilla is overreacting to. However volzilla is keeping up the complaints about it and as far as i'm concerned is not going to be happy until he manages to get Gill banned. Unless i see a genuinely banworthy offence i see no point.

I'm sure a number of you got PM's like this.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: Vozilla
#37  June 12, 2010, 06:42:30 am
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He's still using the, "I got banned for my future intentions" thing. How could someone be so hurt over a 7 day ban?
Re: Vozilla
#38  June 12, 2010, 06:43:44 am
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He has quoted 5 posts to me. 1 over a year ago. The other 9 months. I mean jesus fucking christ who CARES if it's that old. If you wanted to dredge up old shit that was ban worthy i should probably ban myself.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

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Re: Vozilla
#39  June 17, 2010, 07:39:48 am
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My reply

Orochigill has the right to have an oppinion on CVG. I wouldn't take actions on anybody for staing their dislike towards twilight or tekken or whatever as long as it wasn't disruptive on the thread at hand an on those cases they were either oppinion threads or he stopped at the time.

About you not announcing releases...I personally think it's better to keep it that way since nothing ood ever comes out of those threads.

While I do admit Gill's behavior isn't the best what are we supposed to do? It's a forum, he has the right to say what he wants on mugen discussion and the release boards.

And being totally honest...Volzilla's announcements are pretty bad more often than not. It's no wonder why he gets bashed so hard.
Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 07:46:32 am by Cyan Paul
Re: Vozilla
#40  June 17, 2010, 08:51:19 am
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volzilla takes what ever is written as a personal affront against HIM. It must be exposed! It must be destroyed!

He'd do it to everyone but he has a chip on his shoulder about gill. If someone releases something as part of a team most people who know of the rest of the work would compare to say it's better or worse. volzilla takes this as a personal attack and throws a sulk.


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Re: Vozilla
#41  June 17, 2010, 02:58:29 pm
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Is he still bitching about things from over a year ago?

Oh my fucking god.

That is it, this thread is going public.
Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 03:06:50 pm by Shamrock
Re: Vozilla
#42  June 17, 2010, 03:30:57 pm
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then thats fucking bullshit that you condone breaking your first rule, condone harrassment, and the fact that he can say whatever the fuck he wants, but if i respond, i get in trouble.
Listen, I don't give a flying fuck if you think it's harrasment. Your "every negative post in the same thread that I post in is a direct attack towards me" is ridiculous and I'm not going to make people shut up about CVG because you could get butthurt.

You were banned for being an obnoxius asshole and claiming you'd stir shit up if you wanted and for ignoring a staff warning.

Move on and start using the forum properly or get out.

Knowing him his reply is going to call us pricks and assholes. I say perma if he also pulls the same shit he did with Rajaa. Why would we keep someone that hates us all?
Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 03:43:23 pm by Cyan Paul
Re: Vozilla
#43  June 17, 2010, 04:43:48 pm
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He is still personally messaging each member of the staff in hopes of finding one of us who will bend to his ridiculous grudge towards Gill? Like seriously, get over it, you have no credibility, especially after the IP address incident.

If he pulls that, *I'm-gonna-say-and-do-what-the-f**k-I-want-F**k-you-and-the-rest-of-the-staff* crap again, I say ban him from a year to permanently. Let him say and do what he wants on his on accord, not here. What good is it if we have him trying to bribe us and then if we don't bend to his will, he then proceeds to calling us assholes and afterward request some stupid shit like this? *He edited it at the beginning of this month as to hide something, but we all know what he posted*
Re: Vozilla
#44  June 17, 2010, 07:11:55 pm
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I'll tell you what, you feel he should be "punished", go ahead punish him. Punish the guy on the internet. Get vengeance for all those people.

BURN HIM!

BURN HIM!

It is the internet. You can't punish him. What are you gunna do, give him a computer virus?

Yeah anyone who takes the internet as serious as you is a scares me. I worry for their health.
You are incredibly fucking dense. I left this topic with hopes that you wouldn't reply like a retard weeks ago, but when I'm lolforced to check it now, lo and behold.

What do you consider a ban, or a mute if that isn't punishment to you? Get a clue dude you're stupid as hell.

P.S. do the English language a favor and don't reply to this, because I'm better off pretending you don't exist.
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Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 07:18:52 pm by TempesT
Re: Vozilla
#45  June 17, 2010, 08:02:04 pm
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Shut up Tempest. Go "punish" something, like at small animal or something.

@ Vozilla. Please, stop pulling this mom against dad stuff. We want you around, just not if you plan on turning every thread into a grudge match against people you do not like.

In short, enough with you and Gill fighting.


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#46  April 29, 2011, 12:07:50 am
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Coming into this position I was warned about what was going to happen with V-Zilla and Orochi Gill. It didn't take long for me to start getting pms from him asking for me to "stand up to the other staff" that he doesn't have any respect for by deleting all of Orochi Gill's posts.

So apparently this has been going on for a long time now? Where he'll abuse the report feature and then harass staff to try and get Orochi Gill banned?

Well now he has

"don't be a dick" - this means you orochi gill

or something like that in his sig. I'm sure it's come up before. I do think that Orochi Gill has some reponsibility in that he posts in practically every CvG thread, with stuff like "I have my doubts about this because of who made it" and overly exaggerated feedback mostly just to find faults with the characters, usually followed with a cheeky wise-crack at the team.

Anyone else think that something should be done about this? It's apparently gone on way too long. I could post some of the pms V-Zilla sent me to show you the kind of stuff he's been saying to me since I became a mod if yall wanna see.
Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 12:16:11 am by Caddie
Re: V-Zilla
#47  April 29, 2011, 12:11:08 am
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Im so sick of v zilla incessant bickering.
Re: V-Zilla
#48  April 29, 2011, 12:40:17 am
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You don't really need to post the messages, we already know what he said. I mean, he's the same person who tried to get Tempest and Shamrock against the other staff too. He also tried to get Gill's IP address by saying he'll stop complaining if he gets it. He wanted to ban Gill's IP at a forum he doesn't even go to...

He thinks he can keep trying to put staff against each other just to get someone banned? He's being really stupid and I would have thought he'd give up on this stupid shit now. It's been about 2 years.

Post the personal messages. I'm probably going to ban him because he thinks he is sneaky. Trying to "corrupt" a new staff member. Any objections?

Also, this topic could go to the public area. It's nothing that needs to be confidential.
Re: V-Zilla
#49  April 29, 2011, 01:11:35 am
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From back in the Shamrock mess:

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And from yesterday:

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I finally sent this back to him:

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Edit: Think this should be kept private cause I posted his pms. :-X
Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 01:17:31 am by Caddie
Re: V-Zilla
#50  April 29, 2011, 01:52:24 am
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Hey just got this gem:

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plz do not pm me again as i know perfectly well where you stand.

you are just like the rest, pick and choose when to enforce procedure and when not to. he has been told to stay away and not do that sort of thing before. he say okay at one time, but then always come back later to act the same way. but because none of you have the backbone to actually enforce that because of him being one of your poster children for your absolute perfect mugen drama community.

cyan paul is an idiot if he thought the backhandedness had no ill intent.

his comment was full of intent at a backhanded slap and put us into a position where someone we banned can now create more drama.


but that is what this place is all about. letting people act like dicks and cause drama.

plz stop with the charade. remove the rule about treating others with respect and the staff comments about dont act like a dick. that is what pisses me off the most, how the staff can be hypocrits concerning those things because you say one thing and encourage another.
Re: V-Zilla
#51  April 29, 2011, 02:42:02 am
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"You choose to enforce." Um, yes. It's called discretion.

He's claiming people are acting like dicks while insulting your intelligence and integrity. His points don't make sense because they're extreme biased, especially looking on his history and desperateness for revenge.

We've been through this too many times before. He always tries to prey on new staff to get them to ban Orochi Gill. Then he brings up the "be respectful guideline." We're not enforcing action just because he wants it done. I don't know who he think he is but what he's trying to do is not acceptable.

I banned him for two months.



And just because it's a personal message doesn't mean this needs to be private. Only if it was something more serious. Like account stuff or something.
Re: V-Zilla
#52  April 29, 2011, 02:45:19 am
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At best we could ask Gill to never post in a CVG thread just so we don't have volzilla bleating at us AGAIN. Gill is actually really sensible about moderation and knows exactly when he's gone too far. volzilla just blows up regardless of the content.

He's been on about that "be nice" rule forever. They are guidelines as you say. And i wish he'd stfu about it because this is meant to be SELF moderation. We are not fucking nannies. Basically, if he want's gill banned, he has to be banned himself, probably for a longer period of time cos he's more of a cock about it.

Thread moves when needed, the occasional topic deletion or split. We shouldn't have to babysit 2 users who can't reconcile their differences or ignore each other.


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Re: V-Zilla
#53  April 29, 2011, 02:50:05 am
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3 things

1. Orochi Gill pm'ed about that sig. I told him not to take it too seriously - not that he did from the start- and let him be. Plus we just had a discussion about a very similar conflict some weeks ago and my stand was not to do anything about it. It would've looked biased if we removed because he was targeting Gill.

2. Volzilla is crazy and grudgesome 5mm thin skinned guy. Do not try to reason with him, nothing good will possibly come out of it. BUT I think I should have said that last night and not today as you find it out yourself  :-X

3. When the damage is done, leave the thread open to the public. It looks bad if we start talking about something publically but hide the end of the conversation. Worse than posting private messages. Nevermind, I misread some posts.
Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 02:58:27 am by Orochi Gill's fan/stalker number 2
Re: V-Zilla
#54  April 29, 2011, 02:52:20 am
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At best we could ask Gill to never post in a CVG thread just so we don't have volzilla bleating at us AGAIN. Gill is actually really sensible about moderation and knows exactly when he's gone too far. volzilla just blows up regardless of the content.

He's been on about that "be nice" rule forever. They are guidelines as you say. And i wish he'd stfu about it because this is meant to be SELF moderation. We are not fucking nannies. Basically, if he want's gill banned, he has to be banned himself, probably for a longer period of time cos he's more of a cock about it.

Thread moves when needed, the occasional topic deletion or split. We shouldn't have to babysit 2 users who can't reconcile their differences or ignore each other.

I agree, I talked with Orochi Gill a bit about a couple of his posts in one of those threads and he was very reasonable and accepting of everything I had to say. I think asking him to generally try and avoid those threads would be fair, though not outright saying "don't post in these threads" or anything like that.

As far as this being private and the whole pm things goes, I'm just a bit worried about people going "oh the staff is posting our private pms now, look at this!" and having it come back and bite us all. Other than that worry it's not important to me where this is.

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Re: V-Zilla
#55  April 29, 2011, 07:38:20 am
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Congrats Caddie, you've passed the v-zilla test.
You are now a full mod.
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Re: V-Zilla
#56  April 29, 2011, 08:06:45 am
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I think orochi , knowing that vzilla will throw himself to the ground clutching his leg and screaming foul , still dashes in all the time passing by closely.
Now, reasonably, he isnt doing anything much, specially not anything that deserves a ban, but he could avoid picking on him. He knows that Vzilla will be rolling on the ground sreaming FOUL FOUL at the moment he even speaks, but any ban on what orochi gill posts would be validating vzilla , and he would just start rolling on the ground more often.

So , yeah , orochi is passive aggressive a lot of times, but not enough for the reaction zilla gets every single tiny time. Pming him was a good idea.

You want to see someone that was doing it wrong?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115344.40
Darkflare, as reacted to by Tempest.



Futhermore, oz post here pretty much sums it up
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=126116.msg1283831#msg1283831


His new avatar also reminds us about what really matters to him. Getting his own way. Is gill too passive aggressive? Maybe. That would reason more of a talk than a "BAN PLEASE", specially considering how over reactive vollzilla gets everytime.
Re: V-Zilla
#57  April 29, 2011, 10:06:56 am
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If he was banned over this, then this thread should be public, btw.For transparency.

note: He has changed his profile to CADDIESUCKS etc and is now supporting darkflare on his sig as well.
Re: V-Zilla
#58  April 29, 2011, 10:49:39 am
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I agree 100% with going public with this thread.
Re: V-Zilla
#59  April 29, 2011, 03:38:34 pm
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yeah make this public
Re: V-Zilla
#60  April 29, 2011, 06:53:01 pm
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Re: V-Zilla
#61  April 29, 2011, 07:22:03 pm
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He doesn't pick favorites anymore.

I've never seen someone dislike a place so much and be so willing to stay.
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Re: V-Zilla
#62  April 29, 2011, 07:36:53 pm
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lol is he going to try and talk to us through his profile now
  can we disable that

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Re: V-Zilla
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Re: V-Zilla
#64  April 30, 2011, 12:15:09 am
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Hmm well I'm getting pms from his friends now that contain messages from V-Zilla. He asked me to post the one pm I sent back to him when he first started messaging me, so here it is:

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Thank you. I am trying my best to defuse the situation. I understand the long history of this place and Mugen in general and why the other mods feel like they do. It may not be how I would prefer things but this board is not my board. And don't worry I hope to bring down stuff like what's been in the release and project sections in my own way, it's why I'm even staff in the first place. This whole mess is not going to effect that at all. Thank you for the kind words.

This was before I was told about him messaging other staff before, and the "not how I would prefer things" was because at the time I felt that overly offensive posts should be deleted without warning. But as you guys saw in my posts from that time, regardless of how I felt I was going to take your advice.

I've talked with Iced since then and have become more aware as to why that stuff should be left to a warning instead of just deleting posts with insults, and in fact looking back I can't believe I felt like I did on the subject. :-\ I think it was just a post where a user said "fuck you" to another user and I was thinking what to do about it, and any option other than saying "hey come on guys, relax" felt like I would be making a mistake. Though the release and project sections is still a different story in my line of thinking, like I said in that pm.

Anyway, there is in an issue here in him asking his friends to send me his messages. The person who is sending them seems to be a nice guy, but I mean technically V-Zilla is STILL sending me pms. :-\ I replied to the guy saying, among other things, that him asking other people to send me pms isn't really going to help him in getting unbanned and that there was a little chance of that happening. But I got another pm after saying that.
Last Edit: April 30, 2011, 01:28:07 am by Caddie
Re: V-Zilla
#65  April 30, 2011, 12:26:52 am
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Unbanning is rajaa's decision anyway. Rolling over another mods decision/ban is not very nice.


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Re: V-Zilla
#66  April 30, 2011, 12:33:09 am
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Oh well ya of course that wasn't going to happen, I just meant there was very little chance of going "hey we should unban V-Zilla what do you think" and then having a vote or whatever he thinks was going to happen. :P
Re: V-Zilla
#67  April 30, 2011, 05:12:50 am
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lol is he going to try and talk to us through his profile now
  can we disable that
Cursed status activated, he can no longer edit his profile, feel free to kill his sig.

bans should not be debatable like that, he should really stop asking people to pm your opinions, you are just helping someone ban evade, whoever the nice friend is, v zilla should be thinking of them , instead of being selfish and using them .
Re: V-Zilla
#68  May 01, 2011, 12:06:29 am
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merged for continuity
Re: V-Zilla
#69  June 13, 2011, 02:46:52 am
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V-zilla has 2 weeks left on his ban. Anyone think we should go easy on him and let him off of the rest of the ban? I would just be totally ok with that, personally. As long as he stops pming me. :-X
Re: V-Zilla
#70  June 13, 2011, 03:23:04 am
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Ban is a ban is a ban.


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They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: V-Zilla
#71  June 13, 2011, 03:34:22 am
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His behaviour after being banned , with the profile changes and all, would usually lead to more ban time, not less.
Re: V-Zilla
#72  June 13, 2011, 10:23:51 am
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I understand that feeling, considering his name is still MFGStaffSucks or something like that. Ah well it was worth a mention.
Re: V-Zilla
#73  June 13, 2011, 11:02:41 pm
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