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Started by The Lord of the Flies, August 09, 2007, 02:07:12 am
Your Recommended Creators
#1  August 09, 2007, 02:07:12 am
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I was boringly browsing a little, and found this post from Cybaster:
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Creators you have to take chars from (I'm only speaking about KOF, that is) :

- CCIronMugen
- OrochiKOF97
- Orochi Herman
- Vans
- NeoGouki
- Sander71113

Creators that are not perfect, but release fairly good stuff :

- Sunboy
- Fervicante
- Gonzo
- Jin (from time to time)
- Mouser
- Warusaki3, though I'm not so sure anymore

There's that Iori by Yagami & I_can_t_remember_who.

You may want to take a look at Rikard's characters too : completly edited chars with KOF style gameplay.
Hopefully, we'll soon be able to add Elix to the list of must-have.

People you should avoid :
- Zzzasd
- Tin
- Beppu
- Bug
- Ahuron (though, IMO, some chars aren't SO bad, whatever...)

And since I've got nothing better to do ATM, I decided to make a thread about this. Who, in your opinion, are authors you'd recommend. Which are authors that sometimes give good stuff, which are guaranteed failures, etc. It can be for stages, characters, screenpacks, whatever.

Let me start.
For stages, creators I strongly recommend are:
- NeoGouki
- Caddie
- PotS
- and my favourite, Black_Dahlia_Isis

For overall good characters, creators who I'd recommend are:
- Warusaki3
- Muteki (for the Guilty Gear fan)
- NeoGouki
- Sander
- PotS
- CCI

New (and not so new) creators you should keep an eye on them:
- Ermacwon
- Elix
- Reza
- Dunno who else.

Well, let's see how this thread fares.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#2  August 09, 2007, 02:27:33 am
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i see topics like these as bad ideas, seeing as how no two members have the same taste nor view on what is good, or what is shit


best example? I love Ahurons Older KOF edited characters, and some of his newer KOF characters, but not everyone here does. in fact, 2 or more people off the top of my head REALLY don't like his creations

so, leads to conflicts, ie people defending what they like

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#3  August 09, 2007, 02:31:01 am
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i see topics like these as bad ideas, seeing as how no two members have the same taste nor view on what is good, or what is shit


best example? I love Ahurons Older KOF edited characters, and some of his newer KOF characters, but not everyone here does. in fact, 2 or more people off the top of my head REALLY don't like his creations

so, leads to conflicts, ie people defending what they like
But, If you look at The Lord of the Flies's post it he doesnt have "People you should avoid".

But to avoid that you could just change this topic to "Favorite Creators"?
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#4  August 09, 2007, 02:33:10 am
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I really cant understand why people dont like ahurons chars, hence the "Ahuron's my ass" thing o_O I like his chars, they're definitely better than alot of the crap I find online.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#5  August 09, 2007, 02:37:51 am
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i see topics like these as bad ideas, seeing as how no two members have the same taste nor view on what is good, or what is shit


best example? I love Ahurons Older KOF edited characters, and some of his newer KOF characters, but not everyone here does. in fact, 2 or more people off the top of my head REALLY don't like his creations

so, leads to conflicts, ie people defending what they like
But, If you look at The Lord of the Flies's post it he doesnt have "People you should avoid".

But to avoid that you could just change this topic to "Favorite Creators"?
I did this thread so users could also post creators they don't recommend. But if things get to nasty, I'll change the thread's name, as you suggest.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#6  August 09, 2007, 02:39:03 am
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I really cant understand why people dont like ahurons chars, hence the "Ahuron's my ass" thing o_O I like his chars, they're definitely better than alot of the crap I find online.
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#7  August 09, 2007, 02:40:03 am
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The point is they're not *the* best you can find, yet people use them anyway. Not to mention that many of his XI characters play nothing like they should. Hell DuoLon didn't even play like he did in 2k3. He could've at least stuck to that.

Anyway

- CCIronMugen
- OrochiKOF97
- Warusaki3
- Vans
- NeoGouki
- Sander71113
- Phantom.of.the.Server (Haven't been called that in a while have ya?)
- Sunboy's vs. characters. Not KoF. God forbid.
- Splode
- Jango
- Caddie
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 02:45:06 am by Jesuszilla
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#8  August 09, 2007, 02:46:01 am
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#9  August 09, 2007, 02:47:58 am
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The point is they're not *the* best you can find, yet people use them anyway. Not to mention that many of his XI characters play nothing like they should. Hell DuoLon didn't even play like he did in 2k3. He could've at least stuck to that.

Anyway

- CCIronMugen
- OrochiKOF97
- Warusaki3
- Vans
- NeoGouki
- Sander71113
- Phantom.of.the.Server (Haven't been called that in a while have ya?)
- Sunboy's vs. characters. Not KoF. God forbid.
- Splode
- Jango
- Caddie

Strangely, I agree entirely with this dude.
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#10  August 09, 2007, 02:50:25 am
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There aren't any particular creators I have my eyes on, just particular creations. I haven't been around long enough to really say who's my favorite creator. That. and I'm not really out to get a bunch of characters. The only one in particular I'm "waiting" for is SPORyu, Bass, and MegamanX (I forget who's making the previous two, just that they're both on the IMT).
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#11  August 09, 2007, 02:51:43 am
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Errr... I think I just saw my name in the list o_O You humble me, LotF, but I'm not a creator yet... officially (I haven't released Serious Kyo) :)
And can I ask politely... what good creations in your opinion has CCI made?

I give two votes for Don Drago. This guy is amazing. Not understood by many. I have an honor of talking with him. Don Drago has enormous MUGEN and overall fighting experience. He has reached that level of self-concious that he's invented his own gameplay within his characters (a Drago groove, which is a mix of different SNK games of different years).
Ahuron, Fervicante, GM, PotS, Warusaki3... All of them are good. zzzasd's Kyo 2002 is by far the most accurate Kyo in MUGEN. ^_^
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#12  August 09, 2007, 02:55:24 am
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i see topics like these as bad ideas, seeing as how no two members have the same taste nor view on what is good, or what is shit


best example? I love Ahurons Older KOF edited characters, and some of his newer KOF characters, but not everyone here does. in fact, 2 or more people off the top of my head REALLY don't like his creations

so, leads to conflicts, ie people defending what they like

i agree a 100% with that, do you know how much time theses creators spend to make thes chars you simply get for free, its not easy. you should respect peoples work and the effort they put into it. i'm not impressed by your post , let people find out for themselves. one man's poison is another mans bread.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#13  August 09, 2007, 02:57:12 am
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w/e, ill go and post my list, despite some names people may see on it


Ahuron
Jin
P.o.t.S
CCIronmugen
Rikard
Sepp
Mr. X File
Fervicante
Aiduzzi
Byakko
Choto-mahn
Waru-Sahn
Eli
Gonzo

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#14  August 09, 2007, 03:15:37 am
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Best:
- Phantom.of.the.Server
- Loganir
- Byakko
- warusaki3
- Choujin
- XCB/Eli
- Rednavi
- Kamek
- Sander71113
- Aiduzzi
- Dark Roken
- Caddie

Good:
- Borghi
- Chotto-Komaru
- Majita
- Neocide
- Rikard
- CCI Ironmugen
- Tukemon
- Don Drago
- Reu (for DC cuz Evil Duo are broken)
- Jesuszilla
- Taruse
- SayiaJin Mui (for stages)
- CKenni
- hyouga
-"H
- Sumi
- 9
- Bardock

Bad:
- Ex-Inferis
- Jack Bandit
- Drowin
- Gulthor
- Francynaldo (creator of Goku SSJ5 and others useless popular shit)
- Gai & Rei
- supermystery (sorry dude I know you are working hard but old ugly UB22 sprites with strong cheap gameplay is no no in my roster)

Best Newcomers
- JudgeSpear
- Yamachi (he is not newcomer really but still count in)
- Dany The Dog
- Kratos
- Elix
- ErmacWon
- Reza
- az cal
- Lord of The Files

and many, many others which I can't remember now....
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#15  August 09, 2007, 03:26:11 am
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I see people adding CCI Ironmugen in their good lists, can anyone explain me why? :S
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#16  August 09, 2007, 03:30:46 am
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I don't know, because he is good?  ::)
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#17  August 09, 2007, 03:34:28 am
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#18  August 09, 2007, 03:35:32 am
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i added him cause i LOVE his Jhoon, Chonshu, and Mature, mostly  :buttrox:

he makes some good edits to characters aswell, and they're good with chains and combos and whatnot

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#19  August 09, 2007, 03:36:44 am
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What's his best creation so far, in your opinion?

[size=1pt]I saw Jesuszilla said his Kyo is the best Kyo... Errrrrrrrrrrr... ... ...[/size]
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#20  August 09, 2007, 03:37:32 am
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I don't know, because he is good?  ::)
This cannot convince anyone and you know that :) OK, maybe it's just bad manners to talk about him badly? Wink me if so :)
Yeah his style could improve a bit both in gameplay and graphics, but it's the original content and wuv put into each char that makes him a favourite (of mine as well).
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#21  August 09, 2007, 03:39:11 am
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Yeah his style could improve a bit both in gameplay and graphics, but it's the original content and wuv put into each char that makes him a favourite (of mine as well).
I'm sorry, sir, have you tried his Iron Kyo?
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#22  August 09, 2007, 03:42:59 am
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The point is they're not *the* best you can find, yet people use them anyway. Not to mention that many of his XI characters play nothing like they should. Hell DuoLon didn't even play like he did in 2k3. He could've at least stuck to that.

Anyway

- CCIronMugen
- OrochiKOF97
- Warusaki3
- Vans
- NeoGouki
- Sander71113
- Phantom.of.the.Server (Haven't been called that in a while have ya?)
- Sunboy's vs. characters. Not KoF. God forbid.
- Splode
- Jango
- Caddie

What he said, along with:

-Jesuszilla
-Moldredd
-Muteki
-Chotto Komaru
-XCB/Eli
-Aiduzzi
-Choujin
-Byakko
-Jin
-Rikard
-Don Drago
-JudgeSpear
-The Lord of the Flies
-Saiyajin Mui
-9
-Kamek
-Rednavi
-DC vs Marvel team(entire team)
-Kamekaze
-Mr. Fong(I'm surprised nobody here mentioned him yet)

Might have missed a few.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 03:46:11 am by Shin RyuKen
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#23  August 09, 2007, 03:46:05 am
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#24  August 09, 2007, 03:51:20 am
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#25  August 09, 2007, 04:03:48 am
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I don't know, because he is good?  ::)
This cannot convince anyone and you know that :) OK, maybe it's just bad manners to talk about him badly? Wink me if so :)
Yeah his style could improve a bit both in gameplay and graphics, but it's the original content and wuv put into each char that makes him a favourite (of mine as well).
Um gameplay is accurate to KoF, dude.

But yeah I like his 2k3 Kyo and his Shermie. His Mr. Karate as well.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 04:07:00 am by Jesuszilla
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#26  August 09, 2007, 04:09:42 am
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I hate these threads.

Technically i should also write something on topic.

Infiinma
Bane84
KFM

less on anyone else cos i probably haven't tried it.


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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#27  August 09, 2007, 04:10:27 am
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Cannot air juggle with aragami after Kai (strong version). Yeah... accurate... :-X Don't want to upset you and describe how far he is still from KOF. In my opinion, zzzasd's Kyo 2002 is much more accurated.
I'm not saying CCI is a bad creator though. Not good for me either.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#28  August 09, 2007, 04:18:18 am
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#29  August 09, 2007, 04:29:49 am
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Okay, Mr. Accuracy.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#30  August 09, 2007, 04:45:58 am
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On the fifth try I was able to do it too... Well, you asked for this:
- Where is his DM from 2003 (2xqcf+A/C)?
- Where are correct animations?
- Where are correct velocities?
- Where is command buffering?
- Where are KOF cornerpushes?
- Whese is CLSN2 box in standing light kick attack?)

Without going too long. As for me, I get much more KOF feel when I play zzzasd's Kyo 2002. Give him a try, Vans. :)
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#31  August 09, 2007, 04:55:57 am
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I did, and no. I prefer the gameplay in Iron's version.

-He screwed up the color of his flames.
-Hitpauses don't feel right.
-The way the opponent reacts to his red kick looks awful.
-Nice try, but his cornerpush is wrong.
-Timings are wrong for some moves.
-Shiki kai feels screwed up.

In addition better Gameplay > Accurate cornerpushes / "correct" velocities that just break the character.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#32  August 09, 2007, 04:59:30 am
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Juke Kisaragi
Orochi Herman
Jin

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
New #33  August 09, 2007, 07:29:37 am
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GM
Muteki
Warusaki3
P.O.T.S
Mouser
MMR
NeoGouki
Sander 71113
OrochiKOF97
Spolde
Caddie
Jin
Ahuron
Tin
Kgenjuro
Yong Ming
Gonzo
Cirio
Last Edit: August 10, 2007, 03:22:59 pm by Kibagami-Yagami
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#34  August 09, 2007, 07:36:19 am
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best example? I love Ahurons Older KOF edited characters, and some of his newer KOF characters, but not everyone here does. in fact, 2 or more people off the top of my head REALLY don't like his creations
Terry's good, IMO. And if Ahuron does the spriting for his characters, I don't know what to say but he does a damn good job at them. MI Kyo comes to mind as well.

- Jin
- CCIronMugen
- Vans
- Warusaki3
- GM
- Sander71113
- Mr. Fong
- Jesuszilla
- Byakko
- P.o.t.S
- KFM
- NeoGouki
- H"
- Mouser
- Juke
- Caddie

There's more but I forget.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#35  August 09, 2007, 08:27:36 am
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Lol @ topic starting from one of my posts. :P

Well, most of them were listed already. I'd remove some creators some people said, but as I don't want a fight or arguing for hours, I'll avoid that.

Let's just say that my whole time favorites are :
- POTS
- Warusaki3
- OrochiKOF97
- IronMugen

and BDI for stages.

But hell, there are many more very good ones.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#36  August 09, 2007, 11:24:31 am
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POTS
warusaki3
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Byakko
Muteki
Loganir
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#37  August 09, 2007, 12:01:20 pm
On the fifth try I was able to do it too... Well, you asked for this:
- Where is his DM from 2003 (2xqcf+A/C)?
- Where are correct animations?
- Where are correct velocities?
- Where is command buffering?
- Where are KOF cornerpushes?
- Whese is CLSN2 box in standing light kick attack?)

Without going too long. As for me, I get much more KOF feel when I play zzzasd's Kyo 2002. Give him a try, Vans. :)
Do you know what CCI label means? I guess no. Iron's creations are accurate but they're not straight conversions. I don't see what your first point has to do with accuracy.
His CCI Kyo is maybe not perfect but certainly not as crappy as zzzasd's creations. Yes I said crappy because they fail at lot of things, even his required/custom animations/axis are completely broken.

I'm really curious to see how good will be your Kyo after this discussion.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#38  August 09, 2007, 12:50:58 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#39  August 09, 2007, 02:43:42 pm
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Good: 
Raien Makoto
9
Rouge Noir
minstral
Alchemist
Pots
Warusaki3
Rikard!!  (except for Dark Cloud's new portrait)
KFM
Lord of the Flies
Rainman
DABA
nana
Third
butti

Bad:
Arcturus
Ex-Infernis
Drowin
Gulthor
Anyone who made REALLY crappy DBZ characters.
BIRD
shazzo
oohwap
Arcturus again.  And again.
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
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#41  August 09, 2007, 03:12:29 pm
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Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 03:23:08 pm by Elix

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#42  August 09, 2007, 03:22:15 pm
1. Read properly then as it's not his Kyo that I covered.
2. The best Kyo converted so far is Sander's Kyo, fixed with the patch Winane (or [E], can't remember) published to correct old DOS Mugen hit/block pauses trick.
3. Arguments ? Do you really need arguments if you read that review ? Let me quote it for those who didn't read it yet.

That review hosted on RandomSelect said:
Misaligned sprites, completely off velocities, wrong required sprites, missing KOF gethits ... and that's only the beginning

AHURON & ZZZASD ARE NOT MY GODS. Sorry.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#43  August 09, 2007, 03:37:48 pm
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1. A typo. "this" -> "his". I've read a review on his Clark. Just re-read it.
2. Where this patch is hosted?
3. - Sander's Kyo has no less misaligned sprites and incorrect CLSNs, I can prove it anytime;
- zzzasd's Kyo has inversed commands, Sander's hasn't;
- zzzasd's Kyo has a an accurate command cancels, Sander hasn't;
- zzzasd's Kyo has an alternative of command buffering, which works fine, Sander's hasn't;
- zzzasd's Kyo has better cornerpushes while Sander uses a standard MUGEN one;
- zzzasd's Kyo has the exact juggling system;
- zzzasd's Kyo's animations are 99% correct;
- zzzasd's Kyo has the correct hit/guard pausetimes and doesn't need patching;
- zzzasd's Kyo's damage/power values are correct.

AHURON & ZZZASD ARE NOT MY GODS. Sorry.
They're anyone's gods, they're humans :P But you can worship whoever you like :)
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#44  August 09, 2007, 03:54:36 pm
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#45  August 09, 2007, 03:56:54 pm
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That's the 1% he missing :mugoi:
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#46  August 09, 2007, 04:07:21 pm
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The 1% being 1 X pixel and 1 Y pixel :sadgoi:
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#47  August 09, 2007, 04:08:53 pm
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Imagine what it would have been if the character was 100% inaccurate. :sugoi:

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#48  August 09, 2007, 04:17:14 pm
The 1% being 1 X pixel and 1 Y pixel :sadgoi:

And the concerned example is the IDLE STANCE.  :o :o :o

ZZZ Kyo / Damage data : since when KOF uses different values for basic standing fierce punch & standing fierce kick ?

Not getting BASIC STUFF done right is the first step of being hated, you know.
More to come (found a bounce glitch on 236 K,K x 2 then 236 K,K within 30 seconds -> opponent bounces one more time on the ground when he shouldn't).
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#49  August 09, 2007, 04:28:59 pm
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I can juggle after: Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (1 hit).

So much for exact juggling.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#50  August 09, 2007, 05:50:08 pm
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Wee...

My favs.
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XCB (Except Tetsu. God, I hate Tetsu.)
Kamek - Some of the funniest and best made chars I've seen. Except Magikarp, but he doesn't count.
Rikard - SPO Ryu FTW.
9 - The best Melty Blood conversions out there.
Choujin - DBZ chars that are actually balanced? BLASPHEMY!
BBH - I love BBH (the char), and Yoma is very well made, although a tad overpowered.

Other excellent ones
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PotS - Don't use his chars, but they are excellent.
Judgespear - Homer.. Nuff said.
Warusaki - Some of the best CvS conversions out there.
Borghi - Awesome original characters.

Avoid
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Arcturus
Shazzo
Oohwhap
Supermystery
Ex-Inferis
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#51  August 09, 2007, 05:53:34 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#52  August 09, 2007, 06:01:14 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#53  August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pm
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- zzzasd's Kyo's animations are 99% correct;
ROFLMAO
Start digging Sander's or CCI's Kyo and you'll get much more than 1X-1Y dispersion.
Not to mention that 1 pixel difference affects gameplay even less than 1%.
ZZZ Kyo / Damage data : since when KOF uses different values for basic standing fierce punch & standing fierce kick ?
Since KOF 94. Dunno, maybe even earlier ;)

I can already see how much of a KOF specialist you are.
I can juggle after: Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (1 hit).

So much for exact juggling.
? I juggle Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (2 hits), like it should be.

Again, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors. Yet this attempt has failed. And to make it fair and square I should be listing some of Sander's mistakes, but I won't do that. I guess your hate for zzzasd lies beyond his characters.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 08:34:19 pm by Elix
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#54  August 09, 2007, 08:38:17 pm
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Start digging Sander's or CCI's Kyo and you'll get much more than 1X-1Y dispersion.
Not to mention that 1 pixel difference affects gameplay even less than 1%.

doesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.

? I juggle Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (2 hits), like it should be.

and i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.

Again, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors. Yet this attempt has failed. And to make it fair and square I should be listing some of Sander's mistakes, but I won't do that. I guess your hate for zzzasd lies beyond his characters.

No, you are just being an ass.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#55  August 09, 2007, 08:39:43 pm
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#56  August 09, 2007, 08:46:12 pm
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doesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.
Let me rephrase then. I won't use numbers now and just state that zzzasd's Kyo's CLSN boxes and animation times are more accurate than Sander's.
and i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.
Yes, this is indeed a mishap. But I can do the same with Sander's Kyo. Also I can hit liedown opponents with his yami barai :sugoi:
No, you are just being an ass.
Maybe I am. But this is my reaction to untruth being spoken.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 08:48:41 pm by Elix
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#57  August 09, 2007, 08:48:21 pm
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this is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell

...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#58  August 09, 2007, 08:48:51 pm
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doesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.
Let me rephrase then. I won't use numbers now and just state that zzzasd's Kyo's CLSN boxes and animation times are more accurate than Sander's.
and i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.
Yes, this is indeed a mishap. But I can do the same with Sander's Kyo. Also I can hit down opponents with his yami barai :sugoi:
No, you are just being an ass.
Maybe I am. But this is my reaction to untruth being spoken.
I'm sorry but I only see untruth coming from ONE person, and that is YOU, Elix.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#59  August 09, 2007, 08:51:57 pm
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this is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell

...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"
I couldn't help myself this time - have never discussed this topic before ;D
I'm sorry but I only see untruth coming from ONE person, and that is YOU, Elix.
Arguments? Or better leave it as it is. People could already see different opinions and it's their will to decide for themselves on which character is better.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#60  August 09, 2007, 08:52:58 pm
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The way i see you reacting: "This character doesn't have "X" system. AUTO SUCKS"

You are a hypocrite, you are asking for perfection and speaking untruth yourself.

And the last thing i'm going to say is this:

Good game play > You and your "accurate" systems.

No one gives a shit about what character is better, only you.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#61  August 09, 2007, 08:54:37 pm
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this is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell

...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"
I couldn't help myself this time - have never discussed this topic before ;D
I'm sorry but I only see untruth coming from ONE person, and that is YOU, Elix.
Arguments? Or better leave it as it is. People could already see different opinions and it's their will to decide for themselves on which character is better.
When you're using things such as accuracy in your arguments, you're not trying to defend an opinion, you're trying to prove a fact.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#62  August 09, 2007, 08:57:13 pm
Hey Elix, did you know that KOF saga had started long time before KOF2002?
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#63  August 09, 2007, 08:58:10 pm
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this is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell

...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"
Naw, you said you hated these threads because they turned into users arguing on who's a better author. Not into a "whose is more accurate" thread :P.
They are similar but not the same :mugoi:

Offtopic: Where do you guys get all that time to practically learn everything (axis, hitpauses, juggle points, combo-friendliness, etc) in a character? I now barely have time to post nowadays  :S.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#64  August 09, 2007, 09:06:59 pm
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completely forgot to add this name

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#65  August 09, 2007, 09:42:26 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#66  August 09, 2007, 11:16:25 pm
Mmm, I got it wrong I guess, didn't notice that for Kyo. Fine then.

I can already see how much of a KOF specialist you are.

Old news. Everyone here already knows that I am not a KOF specialist and that I made boring unaccurate conversions.
You know, if I really want to dig further into the character, I'll find stuff you don't even know about. Let me get the necessary stuff again.
BUT ! I still know what is good stuff and what isn't.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 11:23:31 pm by OrochiK0F97
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#67  August 09, 2007, 11:19:46 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#68  August 09, 2007, 11:28:54 pm
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Also I can hit liedown opponents with his yami barai :sugoi:
You fail hard.
An insult from a moderator. How should I reply that?

You can really hit DOWN opponents with yami barai on Sander's Kyo. I have the original version though, not Winane-patched (still would appreciate if anyone will give me the link).
Old news. Everyone here already knows that I am not a KOF specialist and that I made boring unaccurate conversions.
You know, if I really want to dig further into the character, I'll find stuff you don't even know about. Let me get the necessary stuff again.
BUT ! I still know what is good stuff and what isn't.
You've made a mistake and I was wrong for calling you unqualified. I'm sorry. I just don't want to show my ego here anymore.
Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 11:31:20 pm by Elix
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#69  August 09, 2007, 11:42:15 pm
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You can do that in KoF.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#71  August 09, 2007, 11:48:10 pm
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#72  August 09, 2007, 11:48:58 pm
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I guess I'll add my list;

Warner-
Claymore
POTS-
Beximus
Sander
Judgespear
Acey
The Great Matsutzu
Stig87
CHOUJIN
Kokuryu (even tho, he is nolong is mugen but Dragonranger84 can take his place)
Kamzer13 (he sure has made a wierd edit of Chun Li, hasn't he?

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Arcturus
Ex-Infernis
Drowin
Gulthor
SuperMystery
oohwap
Zero_Col
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#73  August 09, 2007, 11:58:56 pm
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
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Last Edit: August 10, 2007, 12:06:07 am by Kyouya Garyuu
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#75  August 10, 2007, 12:01:22 am
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#76  August 10, 2007, 12:03:34 am
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Seeing as many people can be easily fooled, I decided to do a translation from suppressed asshole to open asshole:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d45/vans1belmont/kof99034.pnghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d45/vans1belmont/kof99035.png

But ... dude ... this isn't KOF 2002 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o :o :o o_O o_O o_O :S :S :S >:( >:( >:( ??? ??? ???
Oh, what sarcasm :) Yeah, I don't oftenly play 99.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d45/vans1belmont/kof99034.pnghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d45/vans1belmont/kof99035.png

But ... dude ... this isn't KOF 2002 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o :o :o o_O o_O o_O :S :S :S >:( >:( >:( ??? ??? ???
Fuck you.

You fail so hard X2.
You succed at nothing either.

You fail so hard X2.
Fuck you too.

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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#77  August 10, 2007, 12:05:25 am
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Just a question...


Is this a good topic... I mean it kind of puts some people down.

It's just a "free game" where people are creating for those who want to download their chars.


Just maybe, saying to avoid certain people, or anything of the sort isn't the right thing to do... or maybe the nice thing to do ???
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Re: Your Recommended Creators
#78  August 10, 2007, 12:07:19 am
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Seeing as many people can be easily fooled, I decided to do a translation from suppressed asshole to open asshole:
Go ask someone to make translations of your posts, because I won't be doing this. =) My last post here.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#79  August 10, 2007, 12:08:29 am
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There's no need to. ;D
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#80  August 10, 2007, 12:10:16 am
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Again, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors. Yet this attempt has failed. And to make it fair and square I should be listing some of Sander's mistakes, but I won't do that. I guess your hate for zzzasd lies beyond his characters.

please do, i am updating that kyo as we speak.
Re: Your Recommended Creators
#81  August 10, 2007, 04:11:57 am
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Side discussion (more like topic hijack) should be split into a new topic.
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