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Who was the very first mugen creator to release a character to the community?

#1 October 02, 2014, 03:06:06 am

I was talking to a fellow mugen comrad and he asked this question and i was stumped. So who was the first brave soul to take a chance at coding a character and releasing it to the public? And what was that character?

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Last Edit: October 03, 2014, 01:49:31 am by Legendary DeMoNk@I

Jesuszilla

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#2 October 02, 2014, 07:16:46 am

Loyal to the Game

VK was pretty much behind the first Capcom/SNK conversions.

Before that was a slew of Dragon Ball stuff and god knows who did those things.

Cyanide

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#3 October 02, 2014, 07:59:46 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

You mean beside KFM who was originally released with mugen right? Given this was possibly in the year 1999. Bia, Rolento, XGargoyle, [E].

Can't think of anyone else from that early who is still active. I sure as heck don't know. 2000,01,01 was well established when i joined and there was rather a lot of stuff out at that point.

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Byakko

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#4 October 02, 2014, 10:44:54 am

Not active anymore, but what about TESTP ? Was there someone before them ?

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#5 October 02, 2014, 11:22:05 am

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TESTP = Elecbyte, so that would tick them off the list.

There were already some creators when I first got into Mugen. Some names from that era besides the above mentioned VK were Samus_Aran, Andre, Angel_Myst, Destino_pt, NeoGouki, Orochi Herman, Mattasaur, Deuce...

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#6 October 02, 2014, 11:37:20 am

Aww..this made me miss Kazmer13 =/

Violin Ken

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#7 October 02, 2014, 03:12:49 pm

Support me @ ko-fi.com/violinken

I've been around since the beginning (wow.. I feel old). I believe the first character outside of testp/elecbyte was Neogouki releasing a basics only Shingo without a palette (ie:noob saibot style).

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Byakko

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#8 October 02, 2014, 03:33:42 pm

XGargoyle said, October 02, 2014, 11:22:05 am

TESTP = Elecbyte

Oh, I never knew that, interesting.

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#9 October 02, 2014, 06:48:20 pm

What did the 5 fingers say to the face? SMAAACCCK!

I can def say I wouldnt know either cause I got n at the end of dos mugen days . By then it was stuff way already done. But yeah the question is mainly outside of elecbyte. That I havent a single clue to was the very first person.

MrChris

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#10 October 02, 2014, 07:25:42 pm

BIG COCK SMALL ASSHOLE.

Jesuszilla said, October 02, 2014, 07:16:46 am

Before that was a slew of Dragon Ball stuff and god knows who did those things.

You Mean those crappy dbz characters that came from Olds Website? haha dude I have a bunch of those Terrible creation.

lel.

First Lt. Ding said, October 19, 2014, 02:06:48 pm

I think the only H-Character I ever got was that Black Raiya edit and she had a super that forced the foe to suck her cock while classical music played.

Renzo F

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#11 October 02, 2014, 07:26:20 pm

I'm also remembering K3nShiN as a creator in the early days of Mugen. His Hien was the second character I downloaded; first one was Rock Howard by NeoGouki.

Bastard Mami

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#12 October 02, 2014, 08:11:42 pm

when I started already 100 characters existed for mugen, I know andre lopes made the first mai as he had already worked with kof91, I am thinking that samus aran made bruce lee, and J somethign made a ryu. oprobably someone who played with 256 life mugen remembers it better.

AlexSin

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#13 October 02, 2014, 10:00:49 pm

CreepyPasta_@u@ said, October 02, 2014, 07:25:42 pm

Do you mean those crappy DBZ characters that come from old websites? Haha dude, I have a bunch of those terrible creations.

I even know one website that is still up from 2000 or so.

For those who are interested:
http://members.xoom.it/babymugen/chars%20-%20o.htm
change the "o" with another letter in "chars%20-%20o" to have the other characters.

Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 10:08:38 pm by Alex Sinigaglia

Japanese Jesus

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#14 October 02, 2014, 10:02:23 pm

Was coding characters in the pre-Fighter Factory days as scary as it sounds?

Rolento

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#15 October 02, 2014, 10:04:52 pm

Figuring things out, one sprite at a time.

Coding not particular scary, just involved a bit more referencing if anything. Also recall things like MCM being around fairly early for sff stuff, would not be till some time later that it got clsn related functions although anyone who tried that version knew how wonky that tended to be.

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Renzo F

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#16 October 02, 2014, 11:11:32 pm

Now I feel like a grandpa. I never used FF, just a decent text editor like Textpad + Mugen Docs on a browser window

Plus, I never really liked MCM, it screwed SFFs in some cases and it cropped images. I like to have all the images within an animation/group with the same size.

Bastard Mami

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#17 October 02, 2014, 11:56:58 pm

everythign screwed the files they were supossed to edit, only the command line tools worked reliably; it was common to back up a character when you started working on it.

R565

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#18 October 03, 2014, 12:12:27 am

Oh look, I changed this thing.

Cool, the good old days of mugen's baby years.

C.R.O.M Lando

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#19 October 03, 2014, 01:10:13 am

What did the 5 fingers say to the face? SMAAACCCK!

I am so retarded. I got in mugen at 2000 and only name I knew right off the back that was from 1999 is O llusionista. It wasnt till after him I started to really know creators names. Asked my buddy on phone from years ago and he said same names yall tossing out .

I Still dont know who the first is though. Dang it.

Byakko

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#20 October 03, 2014, 01:17:04 am

Hey isn't that the second time in a row that you post in this thread to say literally nothing more than OH WOW GOOD QUESTION I HAVE NO IDEA

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#21 October 03, 2014, 01:48:36 am

What did the 5 fingers say to the face? SMAAACCCK!

Sadly yes. Sorry bout that.

Jesuszilla

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#22 October 03, 2014, 07:11:18 am

Loyal to the Game

Japanese Jesus said, October 02, 2014, 10:02:23 pm

Was coding characters in the pre-Fighter Factory days as scary as it sounds?

As someone who started in the pre-FF era, it sucked.

Cyanide

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#23 October 03, 2014, 07:22:25 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

SFF's weren't so bad. Nor were SND files. Air files however were MISERY. There was nothing good about creating an air file.

Code was code, you copy pasted more than now but that's about all that was hard there.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

XGargoyle

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#24 October 03, 2014, 08:56:58 am

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Cyanide said, October 03, 2014, 07:22:25 am

Air files however were MISERY. There was nothing good about creating an air file.

Totally agree. Elecbyte's AirEdit was probably the least user-friendly tool ever made and you could consider yourself lucky if it ever ran on your computer and didn't corrupt your air file.
Here's an AirEdit tutorial for those Mugen archaeologists:
http://strider.mjjprod.free.fr/mugen/tutorial/page7_e.htm

There was also MuGenerator, the first user-friendly AIR editor that had the "feature" of destroying your files.
After some time, tools like MCM, MEE or ZCharCAD allowed the edition of AIR files, but these tools usually had one good feature and two bad ones. So it was rather common to use one tool for editing the SFF, another tool for making the SND and another one for the AIR. Code was all made in Notepad.

Cyanide

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#25 October 03, 2014, 09:34:23 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

I tried mugenerator ONCE. I loaded up an early Broli by necromancer. I changed the size of a clsn1. Nothing else, just a clsn1. Saved. Somehow this turned into Broli + a helper of broli at half scale bound up and left, and ANOTHER helper from there, up and left, i still don't know how the tool did that.

MCM's air editing was ick too as no clsndefaults. MEE's clsn editing was acceptable but not great as you had to save every frame you did.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

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Websta

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#26 October 03, 2014, 09:40:31 am

play more SNK games
I FUCKING LOVE PLATINUM!

This may sound weird but, am I the only person that still uses Notepad for all coding?

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#27 October 03, 2014, 09:42:30 am

ah ah ah Cyanide!

I can imagine you, waiting in front of the screen, being afraid to click on the "Save" button.

And after that, saying Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

ah ah!

Byakko

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#28 October 03, 2014, 10:28:55 am

Websta said, October 03, 2014, 09:40:31 am

am I the only person that still uses Notepad for all coding?

No.
I do use FF now for the SFF and AIR and SND, because the DOS tools don't work anymore, but if I'm only tweaking the code, I go with Notepad++. Before that I loved the DOS tools for the SFF, and I used MCM to check what I was doing on the AIR.

I tried Mugenerator once, on a Rugal, I didn't even change anything, I opened it, looked around, didn't understand anything, saved and closed, and the character was fucked. I didn't understand, I thought the character was just made that way.

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#29 October 03, 2014, 12:09:02 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

Websta said, October 03, 2014, 09:40:31 am

This may sound weird but, am I the only person that still uses Notepad for all coding?

Nope, same as Byakko for me. FF update 3 or FF3 for SFF, SND and AIR.
Notepad++ all the way for all the coding.
I just launch FF3 on the coding to check for syntax errors when the char is done.

Cyanide

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#30 October 03, 2014, 12:35:10 pm

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Thanks to the fact that FF3 has a very customisable sctrls list i use it for coding. Need a leaping attack? I double click the one i have pre-coded and tack some numbers in, KoF velocity slow down? Double click, change some numbers. 90% of the sctrls are set up with their most common features for their most common uses. At the same time, all the additional parameters are listed in order of how likely i am to need them. If i don't need them i can just delete from a point down. I have a simple [statedef ] etc etc set up for when i need a new state.

If i need to edit something quick though or simply check a bit of code, basic notepad is loaded up cos i don't need to see the rest.

The best of the lot before FF came out was MEE. MCM 1.5 and lower was good at SFF files. I used MCM 2.0 for SND because TheRancid's SNDsGood stopped working altogether for me.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

Renzo F

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#31 October 03, 2014, 03:48:48 pm

I remember AirEdit sometimes went further into destroying your work: it deleted your .air files

Umezono

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#32 October 03, 2014, 04:18:18 pm

Hephaistos31 said, October 03, 2014, 09:42:30 am

ah ah ah Cyanide!
I can imagine you, waiting in front of the screen, being afraid to click on the "Save" button.
And after that, saying Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ah ah!

i like your old eastern european millionaire laugh

MrChris

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#33 October 03, 2014, 11:56:38 pm

BIG COCK SMALL ASSHOLE.

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I even know one website that is still up from 2000 or so.
For those who are interested:
http://members.xoom.it/babymugen/chars%20-%20o.htm
change the "o" with another letter in "chars%20-%20o" to have the other characters.

Some characters link are Down Though loul.

lel.

First Lt. Ding said, October 19, 2014, 02:06:48 pm

I think the only H-Character I ever got was that Black Raiya edit and she had a super that forced the foe to suck her cock while classical music played.

inktrebuchet

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#34 October 04, 2014, 01:23:54 am

WTF! I came in this thread thinking I would learn something but I know about all of this.

Gezzzzzz, How long have I been playing with this stupid thing!

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