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Orlando Shooting (deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history) (Read 32713 times)

Started by GTOAkira, June 12, 2016, 05:09:25 pm
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#181  June 17, 2016, 06:00:17 pm
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http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/06/14/marine-vets-quick-actions-saved-dozens-lives-during-orlando-nightclub-shooting/85860320/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/war-veteran-imran-yousef-saves-dozens-during-orlando-nightclub-shooting-omar-mateen/
http://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/ex-marine-of-indian-origin-saved-many-lives-in-orlando-massacre-1420157

Imran Yousef, an ex-marine who worked as a bouncer at the Pulse, was able to create an exit during the shooting, an action that saved upwards of 70 people.
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#182  June 17, 2016, 06:38:21 pm
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Trump actually tried to use it as fire fuel for his cause to ban Muslims (even though the parents practically have no control over the shooter's actions).

He really makes me wanna spit in his face.




Hillary and Obama dare not to point out the etnicity and religious background of the perpetraror (that would allude the fact that he was possibly part of an ISIS cell infiltrated in USA soil, thus conceding Trump some credit in his approach to counter terrorism) and instead are using this event as 'fire fuel' for their cause to repeal the 2nd amendment.
 
Just as the attack and then death of Jo Cox was attributed to the Brexit movement by EU advocates, and even BLM used the death of a gorilla to further the agenda of dismantling 'white supremacy' until it was revealed that it was to save a non-white boy...

Politics and political movements will politisize any relevant event in order to gain sympathy for their cause, no matter how tragic it may be; you'd have a lot of faces to split if you are objective. And also parents do have a responsability in raising their children; saying it was because he was a muslim when they are many decent people who are muslims is not even a excuse either.


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#183  June 20, 2016, 06:31:31 am
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Hillary and Obama dare not to point out the etnicity and religious background of the perpetraror
Both of them did, this week. Neither of them have made it a huge focus of their remarks, though.

Which was good, because that's a distraction from more pressing issues. While the investigation is still ongoing, it's looking increasingly unlikely that this shooting much to do ISIS or the like. Evidence continues to mount about how Mateen was very probably gay, and most people who knew him described him as not being particularly religious (he seems to have become more religious in the last few years, but managed to be so poorly informed that on the night of the shooting he claimed to be a member of ISIS, Al-queda, and Hezbollah, all of which are in open conflict with another, and two of those groups are Sunni, while the other is Shi'a, something that would've been immediately obvious to the most casual observer, paying the slightest amount of attention).
 
Just as the attack and then death of Jo Cox was attributed to the Brexit movement by EU advocates
That literally is what happened, though. The killer is a Neo-Nazi who gave his name as "death to traitors, freedom for Britain" in court, and reportedly shouted "Britain first!" when he attacked Cox (who incidentally was well known for her support for refugees and advocacy towards remaining in the EU)
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#184  June 20, 2016, 09:13:55 pm
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That literally is what happened, though. The killer is a Neo-Nazi who gave his name as "death to traitors, freedom for Britain" in court, and reportedly shouted "Britain first!" when he attacked Cox (who incidentally was well known for her support for refugees and advocacy towards remaining in the EU)

In the end Mair was indeed involver in the Brexit Movement, but the british Pro-EU media involved him before they had any concrete evidence... even before Cox was pronnounced dead. And are exploiting this even as a merely political one.

The Thomas Mair was an medicated metal patient he cannot be put on par with, Omar Mateen, a sane man with an extreme ideology. Its like puting an average vegan in the same bag as a person suffering from carnophobia.
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#185  June 20, 2016, 09:22:41 pm
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Omar was very clearly not sane.

and, as Jmorphman has just pointed out, he was not particularly religious either.
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#186  June 20, 2016, 09:29:09 pm
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Mateen had a lot of moral dilemas, but I cannot picture him as insane... he was a man pushed to the edge. Mostly by the fact that he could not cope his religious beliefs and his sexuality... and he chose his religious beliefs in the end it seems. :S
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#187  June 23, 2016, 12:22:09 pm
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A witness has turned up and, after being interviewed by the FBI, said on a hispanic tv channel that he was Mateen's lover, they saw each other over 15 times in 2 months after meeting on Grindr, and last time he saw Mateen, Mateen complained that two Portorican guys did something bad to him (one of them was seropositive) and Mateen was going to make them pay. Apparently, Mateen also told him his father thought gays were the devil and needed to die.

.. So, yeah. This probably needs confirmation by the FBI, but at this point, that's pretty much where it's going.
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#188  June 23, 2016, 12:24:06 pm
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Another witness , a black gay said that in the shooting the killer screamed at the black dudes to get out that he didnt want to shoot them as they had suffered enough.
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#189  June 23, 2016, 06:05:54 pm
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so a passional crime gone horribly wrong because of access to heavy weaponry.