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#1  March 01, 2013, 09:02:33 pm
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I have no idea about this game, but apparently it's getting a PC release. Anyone knows anything about it?
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#2  March 01, 2013, 09:32:26 pm
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Fuck yes!! I cant believe its actually coming to PC.
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#3  March 01, 2013, 10:16:41 pm
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This game looks nice.
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#4  March 01, 2013, 10:42:58 pm
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I just saw the announcement video on YouTube.
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#5  March 02, 2013, 12:03:16 am
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I remember Novril making a big deal about it one time, but that's it.

Still, it gives a chance for some of us to finally be able to try it.
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#6  March 02, 2013, 12:04:39 am
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The sprites are amazing.
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#7  March 02, 2013, 12:16:47 am
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I remember it was a broken POS. Don't know if its been updated or whatever.
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#8  March 02, 2013, 03:07:23 am
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I remember it was a broken POS. Don't know if its been updated or whatever.

but you havent even played it :ball:

the game itself is footsies based, with most of the damage coming from counterhit combos. thats all i know
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#9  March 02, 2013, 07:02:43 am
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That HUD.

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#10  March 02, 2013, 07:07:14 am
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I like the way this looks a lot. That stage looks pretty awesome as well.  :P
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#11  March 02, 2013, 02:24:13 pm
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I played this at Round 1. The game isn't that good... that or I didn't really spent a lot of time trying to learn the weird critical hit mechanics.
The sprites might look good in the video but in the actual arcade you can tell they're not that amazing (They're pre-rendered 3D models, like those in Ragnard)
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#12  March 02, 2013, 05:22:55 pm
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critical hit on a fighting game?
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#13  March 02, 2013, 05:49:58 pm
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yeah, he said weird.
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#14  March 03, 2013, 09:12:47 am
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i always like new stuff in fighting game, a critical hit would be fun though.
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#15  March 03, 2013, 10:00:56 am
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New? So a counter hit with long hitstun properties akin to KOFXIII's critical counter system, GG/P4A/BB's Fatal Counter, etc., is something "new"?
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#16  March 03, 2013, 06:57:33 pm
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Aw man. I wish you didn't remind me of The King of Fighters XII.
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#17  March 03, 2013, 09:02:08 pm
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Sorry to say, but as much as the game looks cool with those sprites, I've seen some videos and the gameplay doesn't seem interesting at all. The matches are kind of boring, in fact.

In fact, I'm surprised it's even getting a release outside Arcades. I don't think it was really popular on them.
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#18  March 05, 2013, 02:27:02 am
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i've done some researching about the game and it's popularity, the first koihime musou was a adult visual novel and quite popular among perverts and romance of the three kingdom geeks (well they're mostly girls so maybe scratch the last part).
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#19  March 05, 2013, 02:45:30 am
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yeah, it somehow managed to be worse than ikkitousen.
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#20  March 05, 2013, 05:15:05 am
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hey~ ikkitousen is the greatest manga series ever!
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#21  March 05, 2013, 05:44:25 am
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#22  March 05, 2013, 08:57:06 pm
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The game was in fact updated a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately they pulled an Examu and the update is an expensive USB drive add-on.
So far the reaction to the update has been positive.

If you want to pick up the arcade board yourself, lol.
http://www.rain.co.jp/order.php
At the very least the specs are more reasonable compared to the price than the Ex-Board ever was.
Last Edit: March 05, 2013, 09:00:40 pm by Uncomfortable Bro Hug
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#23  March 06, 2013, 09:21:36 am
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Any information about what the update brings?
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#24  May 26, 2013, 12:47:58 pm
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A trial version for Shin Koihime Musou has been released 2 days ago before the pc version is released on the 31st of this month.
The only character allowed to be played in the trial is (Kanu)
Link: http://koihi.me/pc/index.html
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#25  May 27, 2013, 02:15:04 pm
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#26  May 27, 2013, 08:24:23 pm
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I played the demo and it was kinda... awful. I can't judge the entire game with such small (But still freaking big in size) demo but it wasn't appealing at all.

The music was quite forgettable (And annoying during a fight).

The sprites looked awesome in low res 30 FPS videos but in game? Ugh not so much. Is not even SNES quality, it reminds me of those Doujin games with preset models with different wigs, and they're not even that smooth (Why not just using the freaking 3D models instead of rendering them like this is beyond me).
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#28  June 13, 2013, 07:43:17 pm
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lol

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so, there is finally a game for which we don't have an excuse for not getting 100% accuracy ?
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#29  June 14, 2013, 07:17:48 pm
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I wasn't expecting them to use a good engine for this fighting game (after all, the game isn't really that great), but using MUGEN as a base... well, I do hope it's legal to do that.
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#30  June 14, 2013, 08:14:07 pm
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Technically the only things MUGEN-related you can see are the .air files which are pretty much nearly in the exact same format. Besides that, none of it looks familiar.
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#31  June 14, 2013, 09:51:29 pm
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Technically the only things MUGEN-related you can see are the .air files which are pretty much nearly in the exact same format. Besides that, none of it looks familiar.

Evidence in the state files:
trigger#
triggerall
ctrl
playerpush
movetype
animelem
physics (A/S/C)
guard_dist
pos.x/y
enemy.pos.x < Redirect triggers are the same

Evidence in the AIR file:
Portrait uses sprite 9000,100
Stand is anim 0
Turnarounds are 5 and 6
Crouching, crouch, and standup are 10,11,12
Loads directly into mugen without modification
ETC.

KFM used as a base:
Normal attacks are anims 200+
crouching attacks are 400+
air attacks are 600+
Throw anims are 800+
Mugen required gethit sprites are all present (but not all of the required anims that use them)



Let's examine one of the states on its own, this is at the top of the file COMMON_DAMAGE_GUNSHI.STATE
Code:
[STATEDEFINE 3500]
#SET{
anim = 5051
movetype = H
ctrl = 0
system.ko_mode = 0
push_dv.x = 0.0
push_dv.y = 0.0
dv.x = 0.0
var_player_facing = enemy.mirror
dv.x = 3.0 * var_player_facing
dv.y = dv.y - 44.0
bound = 2
voice = 33
var_flag0 = 1
3500_combo_y = 0.0
}
#LEAVE{
ctrl = 1
}

#TRIGGER{
triggerall var_flag0 == 1
triggerall enemy.ID != 9
triggerall anim == 5051
triggerall enemy.combo > 20
trigger1 pos.x <= 200.0
trigger1 var_player_facing < 0
trigger2 pos.x >= 3000.0
trigger2 var_player_facing > 0
}EXEC{
var_flag0 = 0
3500_combo_y = 0.2 * enemy.combo
dv.y = dv.y + 3500_combo_y
}

#include common_movie_stop_auto.state

#TRIGGER{
trigger1 dv.y >= 0.0
trigger1 anim == 5051
}EXEC{
anim = 5061
}

#TRIGGER{
trigger1 bound <= 1
trigger1 bound_time == 0
trigger2 bound == 0
}EXEC{
state = 5075
return
}
I took the liberty of removing a lot of whitespace and comments.  Look familiar?  Let me rewrite it into a form you recognize.


Code:
[STATEDEF 3500]
anim = 5051
movetype = H //Valid types - H, L, I, K  (gethit, liedown, idle, attack.  Look familiar?)
ctrl = 0
system.ko_mode = 0
push_dv.x = 0.0
push_dv.y = 0.0
velset = 0.0
var_player_facing = enemy.mirror
velset = 3.0 * var_player_facing //System is a bit less robust, velocities must be flipped manually depending on facing
velset = Vel X, Vel Y - 44.0 //Gethit velocities are standardized.
bound = 2
voice = 33
var_flag0 = 1
3500_combo_y = 0.0 //Yes I know velset is in there three times, but that's literally what was written.  In this script you have the ability to set arbitrary variables.

[State 3500, Varset]
type = varset
triggerall var_flag0 == 1
triggerall enemy.ID != 9
triggerall anim == 5051
triggerall enemy.combo > 20
trigger1 pos.x <= 200.0
trigger1 var_player_facing < 0
trigger2 pos.x >= 3000.0
trigger2 var_player_facing > 0
var_flag0 = 0                                    //Arbitrary
3500_combo_y = 0.2 * enemy.combo //Variable
Vel Y = Vel Y + 3500_combo_y          //Setting

[State 3500, Changeanim]
type = changeanim
trigger1 = Vel Y >= 0.0
trigger1 = anim == 5051
value = 5061

[State 3500, End]
type = changestate
trigger1 = Gethitvar(isBound) <= 1 //lolololol redundant code
trigger1 = bound_time == 0 //bind.time in targetbind
trigger2 = Gethitvar(isBound) == 0
value = 5075
ctrl = 1 //The ctrl moved here because it used to be part of the LEAVE block executed by the return command.

Edit: Pure directionals are denoted by $ in front of the input such as $D $U $B $F
Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 10:00:35 pm by Uncomfortable Bro Hug
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#32  June 14, 2013, 10:03:59 pm
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So this is an edited mugen from the source code?

Or are all of those custom functions actually able to be added via common files?
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#33  June 14, 2013, 10:15:39 pm
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#34  June 14, 2013, 10:31:43 pm
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Technically the only things MUGEN-related you can see are the .air files which are pretty much nearly in the exact same format. Besides that, none of it looks familiar.
Evidence
I meant at a first glance tho. But even then i was too lazy to check out the state files, just assumed it was what errbody said. :V

That said, iunno if one could get in trouble for commercializing a clone engine.
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#35  June 15, 2013, 01:35:36 am
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they're trying to sell us mugen!
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#36  June 15, 2013, 05:30:19 pm
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Just got it last night.  Not really liking the game. But those effects and HUD. Dayum.
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#37  June 15, 2013, 06:56:37 pm
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I already warned that the game wasn't really great. I mean, I watched some arcade matches and there was nothing impressive worth watching. It's a pity, really. It could have been a good fighting game.
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#39  February 18, 2014, 07:17:15 am
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It's getting a sequel Koihime: Embu

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#40  February 18, 2014, 10:38:07 am
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And the PS3 port of the first game gets released this week after a billion delays.
This is still a pretty terrible game though.
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#41  February 18, 2014, 02:52:23 pm
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How can you tell? Have yuo played it before?
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#42  February 18, 2014, 04:10:24 pm
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Wow, a sequel? Unbelievable. Did this game even get enough sellings to justify a sequel? Just for the videos you can tell it's a really boring game.
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#43  February 18, 2014, 04:27:02 pm
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Why is your reading comprehension so damn terrible?
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How can you tell? Have yuo played it before?
JEEZ, can't you infer that from my post dUche?
It's not like the first game is easily available for the PC, and it's not like one of my semi-local arcades has it too ::)
Your posts are as disjointed as your brain cells.
#45  February 18, 2014, 11:13:01 pm
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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#46  February 18, 2014, 11:17:34 pm
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I was just joking with you, S.D.
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#47  February 19, 2014, 12:04:54 am
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Oh so you ask a semi-smart question (At least for you) and then play the "LOL I WAS TROLLING U" card? (And not even with the right timing)
Are you fucking stupid?
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#48  February 19, 2014, 12:34:53 am
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I purpose that this ceases before we drift this off-topic.
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#49  February 19, 2014, 01:34:41 am
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Deleting your post was clearly not needed. Now it looks like he double posted.

Anyway, I played Shin Koihime Musou (in PSP btw, and the three games. Yeah, no kidding there) and fandisk, and I'm really glad to see Nagi as a playable character. She was one of my favourite characters in the sequel. Too bad she has to appear again in this game.
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#50  February 19, 2014, 01:38:10 am
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is this the one that runs in mugen ?
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#51  February 19, 2014, 01:49:49 am
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Ugh, we know Uche isn't the brightest crayon in the box.
is this the one that runs in mugen ?
I believe so.
I wonder how many people played the Wii fighter, that was pretty bad too. I don't really see how they're able to continue this franchise. At least the guys from Phantom Breaker knew when to switch to a different genre.
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#52  February 19, 2014, 03:42:54 am
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I think they got the productoin cost fucking slow; we already know they have a dedicated if small fan base, considering that the fucking anime lasted 3 seasons.
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#53  February 19, 2014, 12:42:32 pm
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I wonder how many people played the Wii fighter, that was pretty bad too. I don't really see how they're able to continue this franchise. At least the guys from Phantom Breaker knew when to switch to a different genre.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlqkteD_99o[/youtube]

....*Slightly raises hand* ..I was curious, okay? (And I have to admit, it's... bleh. The gameplay felt too awkward, while some chars almost act the same, I think. Oh, and did I forgot to mention how much I hate playing the Arcade mode in the game?)

Anyway, the last Koihime Musou fighting game was kinda alright to me. Was fun at first, but then died down later on after playing a bit on the PC. (Doesn't stop me from using Sei in the game however, along with loving the snow stage). I wonder how they're going to do in the sequel.

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