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DC Television Universe Discussion Thread (Read 184602 times)

Started by Retro Respecter, May 14, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
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#261  September 21, 2018, 04:02:45 pm
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#262  September 21, 2018, 04:14:12 pm
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That's the benefit of being on a streaming service. You don't have to worry about issues like budget and movie and TV obligations.
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#263  December 10, 2018, 10:57:51 pm
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So you know how (one of) Arrow's problem is that it really wants to be Batman
This first episode of the Elseworlds crossover having Superman in the team (Tyler still knocking it out of the park BTW) made me realize that having Arrow and Flash start with their origin stories and try to be TV Batman and Superman before they got the rights still gave them a chance to do them right (by that I mean do Batman and Superman right). They're not fucking up Superman because they don't have to write over 20 episodes a year around him and risk having some major failures.
Long story short, seeing this Superman next to Flash made me think, when Batwoman works well enough to finally have Batman show up, but not as a leading role, maybe they'll finally do him right, just like how Superman shows up in Supergirl a few times here and there and nails it, because they don't have to actually put his character on the line and question his personality ever five minutes. The real Superman and Batman will already be the experienced, legendary figures that everyone looks up to in their respective universe, not scrawny idiot kids "discovering who they are" (looking at you too Gotham) (but Flash is still fine).
And Green Arrow is just the sacrificial lamb and it'll never recover, because who even knows what comic book Green Arrow is like anyway.

(oh and that trailer for the final season of Gotham was fucking awful, glad it's finally dying)
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#264  December 11, 2018, 10:43:42 pm
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Green arrow has a comic book ?

(semi serious because I don't know if he has ongoing series or is just used as a cameo in the jla stuff)
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#265  December 12, 2018, 01:52:01 am
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And Green Arrow is just the sacrificial lamb and it'll never recover, because who even knows what comic book Green Arrow is like anyway.
He debuted as a very blatant ripoff of Batman, and stayed that way for several decades. Like, it was just straight up 1:1; most of the time, he was Batman: But With Arrows. He had an Arrowcar, an Arrowcave, a kid sidekick (then again, everyone had a kid sidekick) even a jester themed villain, etc. It was pretty ridiculous.

It wasn't until the late 60s that he started to become distinct; the character is ostensibly based on and inspired by Robin Hood, but besides aesthetics and choice of weapon, there wasn't really much else in common between the two. That changed when Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams revamped the character as a much more direct take on the idea of a "modern day Robin Hood". They obviously couldn't get too radical (DC would've never approved of G.A. stealing from the rich, e.g.) but they were able to reshape the character as an outspoken liberal, who'd go up against corrupt corporations and fight for the marginalized—but was often pompous and pigheaded, prone to angrily calling his fellow Justice League members fascists over any disagreements.

This blowhard aging hippie persona proved to be the key ingredient in making Green Arrow a really interesting and unique character, but sometimes that aspect gets dropped or otherwise deemphasized, especially in live action versions. Both the version on Smallville and the current Arrowverse have gone back to the character's roots in the worst way, choosing to focus mainly on using G.A. as a Batman substitute—and, for a time, the comics followed suit. Thankfully they've dramatically changed course since the likewide Rebirth relaunch, but that's just the comics.
 
Green arrow has a comic book ?

(semi serious because I don't know if he has ongoing series or is just used as a cameo in the jla stuff)
For the longest time, he didn't! He debuted in the 40s, but didn't get a book to himself until the 80s (unless you count the ongoing Green Lantern/Green Arrow series from the early 70s, which co-starred both characters). But ever since then, his ongoing series has been pretty steady, with a few gaps here and there.
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New #266  December 12, 2018, 11:36:00 pm
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Damn, there was so much comedy and self burns in this crossover. Even some side burn Man of Steel because of course.
And "X-Ray vision. You really do have a lot of tattoos !" can these writers WANT there to be porn any harder ? Is this how the Supergirl series is these days ? Or is that how the Batwoman series will be ? I mean, it might be fun if that's how they decided to balance out the edgy...
Oh yeah and Legends simply went full force on the crazy and the fucking up massively, that was awesome.
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Last Edit: December 12, 2018, 11:53:55 pm by Byakko