...given the fact Lee is Yun's and Yang's uncle, would it be possible to use some of their techniques for Lee?

KingPepe2010 said, June 04, 2014, 06:40:13 pm

...given the fact Lee is Yun's and Yang's uncle, would it be possible to use some of their techniques for Lee?

Actually Lee has some moves of Yun and Yang or I want say Yun and Yang has some moves of Lee, but is very posible that add more moves of Yun and Yang even a special intro with them.

Trololo said, June 20, 2014, 04:00:24 am

varo_hades said, June 20, 2014, 03:58:52 am

Wow looks really great your Joe my friend 

Thanks! I also waiting for Chuchoryu's sprites.
You know... Mine main problem is legs. Maybe he will make some new kicks that i can edit.

Yeah I know as you feel is because that I can't do much with Geki and Retsu :/

Well the special move of punch of Yun is in Lee's special moves for default, maybe more mix special moves of Yun and Yang for a while sounds good no?

A special intro shouldn't be too hard to make after they are both finished. After I got the template for the project: Ryu, finished I was considering tweaking Joe a bit for universal MUGEN in POTS/infinite style just for kicks anyway.

Trololo said, June 24, 2014, 01:46:33 am

Joe- Ghost.rar
SND- https://yadi.sk/d/MhmNLjexUTKtN
SND I U-loaded on Russian, do find a "Скачать". It's download.

Is really great for Ghost mode, about the sound I admit that I was accustomed to old voice, but is great for him because looks arrogant and reminds his days when was champ.

Trololo said, June 24, 2014, 02:03:37 am

varo_hades said, June 24, 2014, 02:01:40 am

Trololo said, June 24, 2014, 01:46:33 am

Joe- Ghost.rar
SND- https://yadi.sk/d/MhmNLjexUTKtN
SND I U-loaded on Russian, do find a "Скачать". It's download.

Is really great for Ghost mode, about the sound I admit that I was accustomed to old voice, but is great for him because looks arrogant and reminds his days when was champ.

Yes. Combination "MvC 3 Dante + some higher tone for effect of Young man" made his work perfectly.
And you know, I SOOOOO FREAKIN' LOVE MY WORK THAT I WANT MAKE HIM PRIMARY JOE.

I know how you feel, is your first character that make sprites and all, and I know that you will include all you can jeje.

Trololo said, June 24, 2014, 02:40:30 am

Thanks!
And one more question: what with Mike? Will we use Chuchoryu's sprites or again "To take the bull by the horns" myself?

Well I like the Mike's Chuchoryu but is some disproportionate his arms and his head, if you believe can make Mike like your Joe go for him my friend.

Trololo said, June 25, 2014, 08:25:33 am

varo_hades said, June 25, 2014, 08:20:52 am

Trololo said, June 24, 2014, 02:40:30 am

Thanks!
And one more question: what with Mike? Will we use Chuchoryu's sprites or again "To take the bull by the horns" myself?

Well I like the Mike's Chuchoryu but is some disproportionate his arms and his head, if you believe can make Mike like your Joe go for him my friend.

And here is bad situation- we have not a good plot.
But I think about Sagat... His upward part on this sprite looks good.

Mike must be buffy, but not like this.
Joe in on one screen with him looks so tiny!
But I will wait the end of his work- I believe in him and i hope that his work will be great. If not...

Nice Dash for Sagat I like.
Well then, we need to trust on Chuchoryu's next update and hope that he make better size. And with Geki too, because is some short.

Yeah we need to comment all our recommendations for Chuchoryu.

Trololo said, June 25, 2014, 09:16:20 am

varo_hades said, June 25, 2014, 09:06:22 am

Yeah we need to comment all our recommendations for Chuchoryu.

No. It's still early. Sagat hame a much of good punches, but they are not from Boxing. If try use hands of Balrog on body of Sagat...
And bonus:

Wow man this sprite looks really awesome, looks completely to cvs style very nice work 

Trololo said, June 26, 2014, 03:37:01 am

varo_hades said, June 25, 2014, 09:37:54 pm

Trololo said, June 25, 2014, 09:16:20 am

varo_hades said, June 25, 2014, 09:06:22 am

Yeah we need to comment all our recommendations for Chuchoryu.

No. It's still early. Sagat hame a much of good punches, but they are not from Boxing. If try use hands of Balrog on body of Sagat...
And bonus:

Wow man this sprite looks really awesome, looks completely to cvs style very nice work 

Yeah. For stance Sagat is good. But punches...

Yeah but as you said Sagat has a lot of punches, anyway Mike is very similar to Balrog if we need more punches of Mike we can use of Balrog only changing the boxing gloves.

Trololo said, June 27, 2014, 03:00:05 am

i'll try.
But I don't think they will wook like one character. But I'll try.

OK no problem, try then, I think that your skills are improved

And one moar new;
-I think I found a good enough donor of legs.

varo_hades said, July 07, 2014, 06:50:56 am

Trololo said, July 06, 2014, 02:54:48 pm

And one moar new;
-I think I found a good enough donor of legs.

Yes can be a good base for the next sprites of Joe/Ghost

Yeah.
Maybe I'll try to hach some of his usual sprites into new intro.

Trololo said, July 09, 2014, 09:17:05 am

I here thinked about one question...
 SF1 Character's popularity is growing. (For "Unpopular" characters to have minimum 3 sprite systems... It's already need to be full value characters of universe. And Joe is already STAR! XD)
 Who's sprites we will use?

Ohh well maybe put an alternative .sff for each Joe? or maybe put a poll.

Trololo said, July 10, 2014, 12:56:39 pm

varo_hades said, July 10, 2014, 06:32:09 am

Trololo said, July 09, 2014, 09:17:05 am

I here thinked about one question...
 SF1 Character's popularity is growing. (For "Unpopular" characters to have minimum 3 sprite systems... It's already need to be full value characters of universe. And Joe is already STAR! XD)
 Who's sprites we will use?

Ohh well maybe put an alternative .sff for each Joe? or maybe put a poll.

Not enough...
I talked about all characters.
All five characters will have some sprite systems.
So questions:
-What Joe we'll select? Edited sprites of Sean Ality? (Edit his haircut.) Chuchoryu's sprites? Or our Joe will be "Ghost"?
-What with Mike? We will wait MFG's sprites? Use Chochoryu's sprites? Or again to take everything in mine hands? (I don't want... I just cunno worthy enough plot for Mike. +It will be much harder than Joe.)
-And what with all other characters?

-About Joe I would like to see as see the Sean Alty sprites with the different haircut. And well my friend if you like continue making the sprites of Joe I mean not necessarily for the project, for complete your Joe like a release because you made a good and hard work on him.
-About Mike I understood that MFG, doesn't interested make new sprites or pay for new sprites because they focus on Retsu, Lee, and Geki sprites, then probably wait for Chuchoryu's sprites.
-With the rest only we can wait Chuchoryu and MFG sprites for decide the best.

Well yeah, we are going to try to get those four and not Mike. We feel Mike Bison (Boxer) and Mike from sf1 are the same character.
After those 4 we would rather try to do SF4 characters that are not in MUGEN instead of spend time making another Balrog

Trololo said, November 22, 2014, 01:08:56 pm

Well, yeah. We're not writed her for a long time...
So, I have a question for you...
A Mike is dead. Duraceleur not sprite's him, Chuchoryu's version is strange and I have not any plot for him. So, what abiut redesign?

Well, the new question would be, exist full sprites for the redesing? Because if aren't exist, we are in the same trouble, or even we try to contact david_bazbar and he can finish the sprites is an idea.

Trololo said, November 24, 2014, 01:02:30 pm

Couple of anims.

Nice anims, I see that even you applied the color separation

varo_hades said, December 31, 2014, 02:37:20 am

Nice present my friend, and any news for Mike or Joe

I don't know why, but I already long time not worked wth Mike...
And Joe... I just wait Sean_Altly's sprites.

"OKAY, BABY!"

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Begining to edit sprotes if Joe.
I will not delete this...thing in his head. I just make it shorter.
Also I think to change his stance. Maybe.

Trololo said, January 03, 2015, 07:39:25 am

Now?

Yeah, I can see the image now , and looks better Joe now

Trololo said, January 03, 2015, 08:30:13 am

Nope, I just tried. Looks like siht.

P.S.: that FF slowed down stance! in fact, it's reallt faster. But anyway, it looked like...
So, I can't change it's style.

I see, with more speed probably will look more fluid and don't worry looks good

Yup. Again doubleposting. Anyway...
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Specials concept:
-Of course Power Kick. But I think to use sere some kind of Falchion's balanse:
-----Weak: local strong version.    Medium: SLighty more far and higher.     Hard: Falchion's, or Original Jump version.
-Of course Rising Knee. But because of sprites he can't be continued into P.Kick on to have much of priority on the ground. So, NOW it's gonna be much more Anti-air then Knockdown.
-For this Idea I need run sprites. I just disagree with Sliding Specter. I thing about something like this:

Also I think IT can be useful as follow-up of EX Ghost Step/Fade.
-I think to use Ghost Step/Ghost Fade like it is. EX version is gonna be invincible.
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Still thinking about supers. But I'm not sure I can use there Violent Knee... Maybe shorter version.

varo_hades said, January 07, 2015, 07:52:08 am

Trololo said, January 07, 2015, 05:13:14 am

Yup. Again doubleposting. Anyway...
=============================
Specials concept:
-Of course Power Kick. But I think to use sere some kind of Falchion's balanse:
-----Weak: local strong version.    Medium: SLighty more far and higher.     Hard: Falchion's, or Original Jump version.
-Of course Rising Knee. But because of sprites he can't be continued into P.Kick on to have much of priority on the ground. So, NOW it's gonna be much more Anti-air then Knockdown.
-For this Idea I need run sprites. I just disagree with Sliding Specter. I thing about something like this:

Also I think IT can be useful as follow-up of EX Ghost Step/Fade.
-I think to use Ghost Step/Ghost Fade like it is. EX version is gonna be invincible.
=============================
Still thinking about supers. But I'm not sure I can use there Violent Knee... Maybe shorter version.

Very nice concepts, I like and the image is funny and cool xD

Yeah. "I've punched you once- I'll punch you twice!". XD
I also plans to make a little reprise of his airal eblow strike (strong punch).

Or more frankenspritibg for more moves. But as a first I need to finish his haircut.

Well, still not finished with Joe (lazyness), but now my target is Adon.
I'll try to add LVL 2 J.Avalanche. + there was lil rewamp of J.kick.
So, wait for update.
(And, BTW: you don't know, how to delete here transperecy color of sprites in Macromedia Flash 8? I just made such bullsh*t and this pink ruins everything! I dunno do I even need to upload it on Youtube...)

varo_hades said, January 14, 2015, 02:12:31 am

Trololo said, January 13, 2015, 04:37:36 pm

Well, still not finished with Joe (lazyness), but now my target is Adon.
I'll try to add LVL 2 J.Avalanche. + there was lil rewamp of J.kick.
So, wait for update.
(And, BTW: you don't know, how to delete here transperecy color of sprites in Macromedia Flash 8? I just made such bullsh*t and this pink ruins everything! I dunno do I even need to upload it on Youtube...)

I never used Macromedia Flash 8 but if you wanna transparency in one sprite only need to check what is the last color in the sprite and this color apply in the zone that you want the transparency, I usually use photoshop or fighter factory, if you wish could you send me the sprite/s and I can apply without problem

Ps: Usually fighter factory and fighter factory 3, invert the order of the colors of the sprites.

Maybe. But it's even not understand PNG somewhy... But it understand BMP.
And man, Sagat, dancing Geddan, I think, looks really nice. But as I said already- one thing make it bad.
Anyway, thanks! I'll try to change it color place.

Spoiler: Yeah, by the way. I have ideas for win quotes (For now only SF1 and SF2 chars): (click to see content)

-Ryu- use classic win quote "Try again, kiddo".
-Ken- use the same, as the "SF1 Ryu".
-SF1 Adon- You're my best pupil... But you are NOT A KING!
-Adon- I think my lessons don't give any effect on you...
-SF1 Birdie- Just go home and heal from that flu. You'll do it better, that fight me.
-Birdie- Brutal strengh. No ability.
-Eagle- And you think your [enter sticks name] sticks can hurt to the King?
-Lee- Such weakness... LET LOST!
-Gen- You just an old senile if you decided to fight me!
-Joe- Junky street "fighter"...
-Mike- Aren't you was a professional boxer? I expexted better fight.
-Retsu- The same as Gen.
-Geki- Go back to your clan. Cushed and ashamed.
===========(SF2 timeline. Because our Sagat SF1... These win quotes will be for him situation "What If?".)=======
Just imagine, what if Sagat WON the First Tournament?
-Ryu- You was strong... But even you will bow before the KING!
-Ken- Hmph... I hope your friend became stronger, than you.
-Chun Li- Just go away from the ring, girl!
-Cammy- Hmph... You're not changed, you know?
-Blanka- You're just a dirty animal, what are you doing in tournament?
-Guile- I though Amry men much stronger... I guess I was wrong.
-E.Honda- Sumo?
-Zangief- How can you hit me if you're so slow?
-Balrog- Know your place, bastard! (I'm sure in hierarchical ladder Sagat was higher than Balrog and Vega. So, this quote have two sences.)
-Vega- And you're in Bison's Elite...
-M.Bison- Pathetic... I've waited something REALLY BETTER from boss...

P.S.: here. I think it's gonna be a good default palette. If you need I'll upload the file.

varo_hades said, January 16, 2015, 12:12:01 am

Nice win quotes I will add it, and the default palette thanks my friend, and well the edit will have both modes SF1 Sagat and SFA-4 Sagat, only I would like change the super combo level 3 for another for SF1 Sagat, any ideas?

Yeah, thanks.
About portrait... Well, there isn't much images of scarless Sagat. So, use his artwork from SF1. Or search on DeviantArt for any picture. Maybe there exists some good variant. As last variant, try to edit any another image os scared (From SCAR word).
P.S.: SFA-4?
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Spoiler: Another winquotes pack. Now for SFA Krew. (click to see content)

Ryu, Ken, Adon and Birdie already was in previous pack.
Again the same "What if..." situation.
-Guy- This fight is over. You're just not of my level.
-Charlie- Be happy you've not died in this fight... (Yeah, he anyway will die... XD)
-Chun Li- You... Just get lost, girl!
-Dan- Someone said: "Apple will not fall far from appletree"... If he borned nowadays and saw you he did never said it.
-Dan (Alternative)- I expected from Son of Go Hibiki at least talent.
-M.Bison- If you are weak Psycho Drive will never make you stronger.
-Akuma- Master of the Fist has fall to King's feets...
-Mirror match- Only one can be the King.
-Rose- What's wrong? Didn't you expected your fail? I though for know this not need to have such powers...
-Sodom and R.Mika- Are you serious?
-Rolento- And NOW you will show me how strong you without your weapons!
-Dolls (And SFA Cammy)- And now you will back on the base. And NO REFUSE!
-SFA Vega- Such shame I broke a face to my ugly colleague...
-SFA Balrog- You're not a fighter! You're a gorilla!
-Cody- I think your plase right in jail- the ONLY HOLE where YOU can beat someone!
-----Civilian Cody- use winquote as Joe's.
-Dhalsim (WHY AM I ALWAYS FORGET HIM IN SF2??? XD)- Your teleport... If you were more agressive... (Universal to all versions of him)
-Sakura and Karin- So young and on ring... I hope you will not forget this lesson.

Nice!
Well, wasn't able to be in normal computer.
Sorry. No LVL2 J.Avalanche. My idea was TOO hard executable. So, update gonna be small.
-Intro VS your Sagat. The problem is "Raising arm" part because it need to CS them. But I think about little extention of it... If I will able to make it- I'll make it.
-Also I'll making a air throw.

Wasn't able to work on PC. (Man, do I need to copy progressed Adon on NB...)
So, just couple of ideas:
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-I just notised (And if what, you can call me a Slowpoke), that Retsu's plot was Butt. So, if we WANT to continue David_Bazbar's work...And he have a couple of interesting moves...

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-And I think I again have found some adventures on my ass. Because I found "Joe formula". Well, almost...

And now I even dunno what am I gonna do!
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Beta anim. I'll need to find another plot for body.

No, I not contacted with him.
About effects- use this one from Ryo by CrazyKoopa.

About Joe... It's gonna be an experiment. And if it fails- I returns to SeanAltly's Joe. But somewhy I sure- he will not fail...
P.S.: can you to advice me someone better for body?

varo_hades said, January 21, 2015, 06:21:29 am

Trololo said, January 21, 2015, 05:41:49 am

No, I not contacted with him.
About effects- use this one from Ryo by CrazyKoopa.

About Joe... It's gonna be an experiment. And if it fails- I returns to SeanAltly's Joe. But somewhy I sure- he will not fail...
P.S.: can you to advice me someone better for body?

Nice, then the effects don't will be a problem, but you mean to continue with Retsu sprites like editing the existents? or contacting with David?
OK, a good body for Joe maybe Adon or Joe (Kof) I mean for the chest.

Well, I dunno... I think we'll make it by oruself.
Ans no. I think Adon and Joe will not be there good. Adon is too flexible. Even slighty crooked. With Joe here is more problems- he is just the opposte (not enough flexible), need to make a closer to original stance and difference in drawing style... Os CvS, but I'm not a fan of him in CvS.

Trololo said, January 22, 2015, 02:59:36 pm

Okay, I'm using Pepe until first his fail.
Now, just because I want it, how about a discussion of ideas about specials of Retsu? Here is mine concept of him (I planed to make him before you said YOU makes him...):
-Of course Gadoken. But he must fly a full lenght. Yeah, he must be stronger, than Dan.
---About super-hadoken... There is 3 ideas:
-----Falchion's concept (3 fireballs. most unpreferable by me).
-----Usual concept (Shinkuu Gadoken. But again, not vanishing after a meter of flying.)
-----Just opened concept (Give us a work. Haoh Gadoken. Even Hadou Birst. Well, two-hand hadoken. Somewhy most preferable by me.).
-Of course ability to counter-hit. In Takuma style. But I need to watch Marco's sprites for that.
-Well, it's SOOOO attractive idea to amke him an usual AoF Karate-guy, but no... He must have something from SF. And I think about Huakki Shuu (I can to be wrong with name, but you understood...). the problem is sprites- Marco don't have an Somesault jump. So, I think we will make in slighty different. At least, Retsu, I think, mustn't to be an fast old man, as Gen, Gouken or Akuma. Let him be an HARDHITTER.
-Two of AoF, on of SF... Bad. So, how about modifiacted Tatsumaki? I've already made sprites. Will you paint him?

I wanted to make an Dan's Tatsumaki, but there is NO need knee bash.

I don't know who is Pepe xD
I didn't make yet Retsu for the sprites problem and effects, anyway if you wanted make Retsu you could told me, specially because you have more skills spriting than me, I choosed Retsu and Geki because you were working on Joe and Mike.
About the moveset I agree with City_Hunter some moves need to based on Kenpo
-For fireball I like with the two hands too.
-Counter is ok.
-An special move or super combo based on kenpo would be very successful.
-The Tatsumaki is a good concept, because Retsu and Gouken are good friends and Retsu perfectly can had some moves based on Anaketsu style.