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Bejiita Z-Type by Seifer Firehart
#1  August 18, 2011, 05:10:25 am
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Im releasing mine Bejiita. I would want that it was already beta but my hard disk is kind off different opinion. Anyway, some info.
Version: Alpha v0.01 (Why just 0.01? Just basics, no super attacks, no transformations, look inside read me file for non basic moves)
On YT you can see Beta version which is unreleased. Sprites in Beta will be based on MV open source sprites, not on Roken sprites like it is now. I just have some problems with my HD and wanted to release a playable version to let you try my style of gameplay. Im very eager for your comments, write a lot of feedback, bugs (o there's a lot of them like no loose animation) and other shieet.
Name: Bejiita
Version: Alpha v0.01
Author: Seifer Firehart
Download Link: You don't need that for bitching or offtop.

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Last Edit: August 20, 2011, 04:23:08 am by Seifer Firehart

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#2  August 18, 2011, 05:17:19 am
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WTF is Bejiita? Dont you mean Vegeta? Cause I see Vegeta.

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#3  August 18, 2011, 05:23:03 am
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Bejiita is the original version, in Japan.  --; Im not basing on english or other versions. BTW what the hell of a reply is that? It is no feedback just whining about name. Man... at least you spelled it right, it's rarity.
Forgot the bonus
Last Edit: August 20, 2011, 06:48:33 am by Seifer Firehart

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#4  August 18, 2011, 05:37:50 am
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Yea umm what you want to do is put a screenshot up of your character so that people would know what they are downloading. Also instead of putting your youtube channel up you should have posted a video of how the character is, so far this is the last video you posted of him so here is the link to a video of his character it maybe not a update video but its a video of his character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iCKeyBWTw8&feature=channel_video_title

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#5  August 18, 2011, 05:57:12 am
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I've seen that someone embedded a video on this forum but it seems no one know how. So it has now big difference if it will be the main account link or video. Anyway, the videos were also in project topic which you apparently missed. If you need a video that much, I will do new up-to-date. And some... feedback?

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#6  August 18, 2011, 06:34:26 am
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the only feedback i can get is whenever he punches and kicks close, it drains the power bar, that's it, in dragon ball z fighting games, the only way to drain the power bar is to use ki blasts and super moves, and when he's at a maximum level, it can still hold for long until it can let go on its own, speaking of which, ki blasts and punches and kicks do little damage
Last Edit: August 18, 2011, 07:20:55 am by drewski90

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#7  August 18, 2011, 07:17:11 am
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#8  August 18, 2011, 07:22:55 am
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And if in other DBZ games is this kind of gameplay, then in every other must be the same. The power bar functions as well as stamina bar. When you on full, you deliver fast hit, but when it goes down 1000, you deliver slower but stronger hit. This forum has definitely lack of Mod power, most of posts are fucking offtop shit. I knew that posting here is not a good idea, there's not much normal people left here. Ehh...
Last Edit: August 18, 2011, 07:28:51 am by Seifer Firehart

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#9  August 18, 2011, 07:34:21 am
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#10  August 18, 2011, 08:31:11 am
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But in japanese they does not say Vegeta.

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#11  August 18, 2011, 12:06:42 pm
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Doragon Boru Zeto is the best anime ever :buttrox:

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#12  August 18, 2011, 11:11:55 pm
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Hell yeah! But what this has to do with character or with mugen?  --;

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#13  August 19, 2011, 12:17:07 am
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It has to do with the fact you called him Bejita when his real name is Vegeta, and when you said "but they don't pronounce it like this", one can argue that they pronounce the name of the anime "Doragon Boru Zeto" while the official name is Dragon Ball Z.

Feedback later probably.

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#14  August 19, 2011, 02:39:54 am
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Seifer Firehart said, August 18, 2011, 05:23:03 am
BTW what the hell of a reply is that? It is no feedback just whining about name. Man... at least you spelled it right, it's rarity.
Forgot the bonus

Oh, im so sorry you didnt get the "Nice car +1" comments that the typical IMT user would post without ever even trying the character out. Also, I was making sure it was Vegeta and not some fan made DBZ character.... God knows theres billions of those.

No need to cry tears of rage over a question about a name....

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#15  August 19, 2011, 11:47:29 am
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Can you at least put the screenshots of this Bejiita/Vegeta char.

Most people here usually doesn't touch the download link if there are no screenshots to pleases their eyes.

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#16  August 19, 2011, 12:18:59 pm
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Shadow_Dio said, August 19, 2011, 02:39:54 am
I was making sure it was Vegeta and not some fan made DBZ character.... God knows theres billions of those.
Wahahahaha! Now I just fell down from chair. Tell me which Bejiita is not a fan made character. Maybe there is a official one, eh?  :eaugh:
I know why you are so stubborn with a "Vegeta". But I, opposite to all of you, hate the english shit-dub.

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#17  August 19, 2011, 01:01:18 pm
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Are you guys seriously still disputing the name?  ::)

Will try out character. Feedback later.
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These palettes better make me cum rainbows when I see them.

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#18  August 19, 2011, 05:09:12 pm
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Seifer Firehart said, August 19, 2011, 12:18:59 pm
I, opposite to all of you, hate the english shit-dub.

Ah, you're one of those people.  Okay.

PS: You're still wrong.  The absolutely correct name is not Bejita.  It's ベジータ.  Some weeaboo you are.

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#19  August 19, 2011, 05:30:12 pm
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@Seifer Firehart You are not going to put up a screenshot now, are you?
何故諦める必要がある？　何を迷うことがある奪い取れ。今は悪魔が微笑む時代なんだ。

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#20  August 20, 2011, 03:35:05 am
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Yoma Komatsu said, August 19, 2011, 05:09:12 pm
PS: You're still wrong.  The absolutely correct name is not Bejita.  It's ベジータ.  Some weeaboo you are.
And do I write Bejita? Bejiita (or Bejīta) is the same as ベジータ just in romaji not katakana. And who's the weeaboo. (FATALITY)

Screenshots are on the way.

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#21  August 20, 2011, 03:50:22 am
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Seifer Firehart said, August 20, 2011, 03:35:05 am
Bejiita (or Bejīta) is the same as ベジータ just in romaji not katakana.

And Vegeta is the same as Bejita just in official romanization not romaji.  So by that extension, Vegeta is the same as ベジータ.  Yet you only insist on two out of three even though they're all correct in the end.

Man, all of this has made me hungry for some bejiitables...

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#22  August 20, 2011, 04:23:16 am
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There is no Bejita. You are a fucking retards (with some exceptions). I see no reason why I should release something more here. Why didn't you keep bitching when Neocide released his Bejita. This is not Mugen Fighters Guild, it's Mugen Bitches Guild.

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#23  August 20, 2011, 04:35:54 am
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And nothing of value was lost.
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#24  August 20, 2011, 06:25:52 am
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i hope you guys are happy, now we'll never have PAFEKTU SERU!

.... kanpeki seru?

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#25  August 20, 2011, 06:38:15 am
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Its sad how terrible his understanding of English is or he would have realized nobody here insulted him or his creation. OR cared about the spelling of the name. (Which IS retarded btw)

All that was said was Vegeta and beegeeta are one and the same. Babble fish obviously is not the greatest of translators if he is taking any of the posts as direct insults to him or his character....  :-\



As stated above. Nothing of value lost.  ;P

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#26  August 20, 2011, 06:39:47 am
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S.D. said, August 20, 2011, 04:35:54 am
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Do you perhaps know what means "Wahaha!"?
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And of course, in the end... a bonus!
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#27  August 20, 2011, 06:55:48 am
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You're not helping your image or your situation, you know that right?

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#28  August 20, 2011, 07:01:51 am
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That and posting an image macro like that makes you look like even more of a joke. Just stop while you're ahead man or else you're gonna make everything worse. 

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#29  August 20, 2011, 07:03:11 am
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#30  August 20, 2011, 07:48:54 am
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Why should I care? I posted here my char for feedback, bugs, ideas and everything I received is offtop bitching. Maybe I need to be careful to not be banned by some Mod? Any exist here? Well I probably WILL BE banned but - I repeat - why should I care? I don't need a forum which does not even have rule not to do offtops.

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#31  August 20, 2011, 07:51:39 am
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I'm only trying to help.

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#32  August 20, 2011, 07:53:46 am
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Dude, you could've simply ignored the stupid comments about the name,but instead you just added fuel to the fire
and now its spiraled out of control. I'll try to give feedback to this later.

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#33  August 20, 2011, 07:55:20 am
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Also add a screenshot to your release. I know you have a video but it's from May. It's outdated by now.

Edit: Ok you added shots but removed the download link? How is Neocide going to give you feedback if he can't even download the character?

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#34  August 20, 2011, 08:04:47 am
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Ok. How are you going to expect feedback if there's no DL link?

Common sense dude. Plus, you could've talked to a mod or something as far as I'm concerned about the concern of off topic.

If anyone got it, can they post here or send it over via PM?


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#35  August 20, 2011, 08:38:41 am
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ecthelionv2 said, August 20, 2011, 08:04:47 am
If anyone got it, can they post here or send it over via PM?

Really not that hard to find. This is the ONLY guy calling Vegeta Beejeeta (Spelled it wrong op.) Go to google and type it in and the author's name. This isnt the only forum he's posted this on.

Its a 4shared link. I would direct link, but I dont want to start any shit with anyone  :-\

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#36  August 20, 2011, 11:08:42 am
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Even if the creator ragequit, I feel the need to point out that to PUNCH an enemy takes YOUR meter away. That's just ridiculous. Even if it's been pointed out before, it's much worse than one could put into words. Look at this. Four bars, and I drain it in ten to fifteen punches. I don't get this. This is so ass backwards. In any other character, you attack to GAIN meter, not to lose it. Ye olde "My character is custom, it can do what it wants" is all fine and dandy, but changing something so standard as super meter gain and drain is just... Sacrilegious. Oh, and did I mention he has four bars? I did. Regardless, four bars. Why? Is three too good for the Prince of Arr Saiya-jins? Ugh.

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#37  August 20, 2011, 11:28:27 am
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Cpt. Commando said, August 20, 2011, 11:08:42 am


Even if the creator ragequit, I feel the need to point out that to PUNCH an enemy takes YOUR meter away. That's just ridiculous. Even if it's been pointed out before, it's much worse than one could put into words. Look at this. Four bars, and I drain it in ten to fifteen punches. I don't get this. This is so ass backwards. In any other character, you attack to GAIN meter, not to lose it. Ye olde "My character is custom, it can do what it wants" is all fine and dandy, but changing something so standard as super meter gain and drain is just... Sacrilegious. Oh, and did I mention he has four bars? I did. Regardless, four bars. Why? Is three too good for the Prince of Arr Saiya-jins? Ugh.
i think i already pointed out that his punches and kicks take little damage, why not increase the attack damage a bit?

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#38  August 20, 2011, 11:36:05 am
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I didn't say that they did little damage, which they do. I said that they take meter away. I could also say that it isn't my job to do something the creator should have done anyways, but I digress.

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#39  August 20, 2011, 11:46:16 am
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And I say go fuck yourself. Entire forum is retarded. I said that I use power bar as something like stamina bar. When you have less than 1000 of power you deliver a stronger hit. But of course all of you afraid of every fucking originality. You would just play with the same chars but newer sprites and gameplay from NES.

If any Mod will ever read this topic and ban me, please delete all my topics on this forum. At least it will remove some idiotic posts.

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#40  August 20, 2011, 12:11:29 pm
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Seifer Firehart said, August 20, 2011, 11:46:16 am
And I say go fuck yourself. Entire forum is retarded. I said that I use power bar as something like stamina bar. When you have less than 1000 of power you deliver a stronger hit. But of course all of you afraid of every fucking originality. You would just play with the same chars but newer sprites and gameplay from NES.

If any Mod will ever read this topic and ban me, please delete all my topics on this forum. At least it will remove some idiotic posts.
Don't get over reacted, man. There are still nice people here, also guys if is to waste time arguing over "Bejiita" or "Vegeta", then do a thread about it. Don't waste time arguing in a release topic just because the author wished a different name. As for the character mechanics, Bejiita may need adjustments in order to be in pair with other characters. Losing power while attacking may be a big de-advantage if you're fighting characters with hard ai and in special if you need to apply a super combo. If you wish your character to be more enjoyable and yet to have that idea, then how about making two cns files? One could be the way which you want, like losing powerbar during attacks and other which allow him gain power while attacking like any other character.
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#41  August 20, 2011, 12:15:37 pm
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Seifer Firehart said, August 20, 2011, 11:46:16 am
And I say go fuck yourself. Entire forum is retarded. I said that I use power bar as something like stamina bar. When you have less than 1000 of power you deliver a stronger hit. But of course all of you afraid of every fucking originality. You would just play with the same chars but newer sprites and gameplay from NES.

If any Mod will ever read this topic and ban me, please delete all my topics on this forum. At least it will remove some idiotic posts.


You don't need to be rude, he was not rude to you. NOBODY was rude to you, until you started posting hateful posts. I've been watching this topic since it started and, you're the only one getting so worked up about harmless comments regarding names and such, get over it.

If you really want a moderator to say something, then here's what I have to say: Stop posting like that. Stop telling people to fuck themselves because they pointed out something in your character that might not make sense for a fighting game character. Stop telling people they're whining, nobody is whining here but you.

It's not that people are afraid of originality, it's just that the things you're changing are opposite any other fighting game known to man, but you can still do what you want, but not everyone's going to like that.

And you keep asking for feedback, how the heck is anyone going to give you feedback when you have removed the download link? The only thing that people can comment on now IS the name and the sprites. So if you don't want people to just comment on the name you've chosen, then post the download link so people can give feedback. Stop being so uptight.


For everyone else. If you've made your point about something on the character, then there's no need to continue arguing with someone who isn't going to change their mind about something they've decided. Move on. There's no need to mock the name of the character anymore.

If I come back to this thread and it's shittier than it is right now, then somebody is getting banned.

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#42  August 20, 2011, 12:35:18 pm
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Cpt. Commando said, August 20, 2011, 11:36:05 am
I didn't say that they did little damage, which they do. I said that they take meter away. I could also say that it isn't my job to do something the creator should have done anyways, but I digress.
i think i already talked about whenever his punches and kicks hit, they drain the power bar by one-quarter or something

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#43  August 20, 2011, 03:01:45 pm
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Alright, it's a stamina bar.  Fine.  Is there any way to fill it up again, or am I stuck with slower but stronger attacks?

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#44  August 20, 2011, 04:51:12 pm
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Seifer Firehart said, August 20, 2011, 11:46:16 am
And I say go fuck yourself. Entire forum is retarded. I said that I use power bar as something like stamina bar. When you have less than 1000 of power you deliver a stronger hit. But of course all of you afraid of every fucking originality. You would just play with the same chars but newer sprites and gameplay from NES.

If any Mod will ever read this topic and ban me, please delete all my topics on this forum. At least it will remove some idiotic posts.

I would not mind using a custom system but I have tried him out and I will say this. This system is bad for a good reason. This character starts off with zero stamina at the start, making yourself a vulnerable target being slow. Now, I tried waiting over time for his stamina to gain, but it only goes to 1 full bar in a normal fight, giving you very limited options. And to make it worse, he loses stamina very fast. His basics do piss weak damage and even his strengthened damage still is piss weak compared to other characters'. Even in combos it hardly does any damage.

In other words, your system practically makes it impossible to win with him. There is no good reason why this system is a good idea in the first place. It needs a total overhaul.

Granted that I used the alpha version, but overall, the system in itself is pretty bad until you can prove to me and the rest of the community otherwise.


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#45  August 20, 2011, 05:07:00 pm
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Hey, you know that charging up thing they do in DBZ?  You can implement that to fill up the bar or something.

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#46  August 20, 2011, 05:21:28 pm
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#47  August 20, 2011, 05:30:15 pm
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Isn't that what his C does? He does have a power charge.

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#48  August 20, 2011, 06:10:56 pm
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Though most of his attacks and everything are still pretty weak in comparison to most others. Plus, unlike the other DBZ chars I've tried and seen, this one isn't really capable of doing explosive combos like them. The stamina system can work as a pseudo damage dampener, only giving you one bar for a full combo and letting the opponent go after one chain so that it doesn't become abusable.

Also on the system itself, I find myself charging very often with the simplest of combos, which makes gameplay flow breaking.

Also I have to say this:

Why does he have priorities on all his basics except one of his crouching kicks?

Consistency please in hitbox.


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#49  August 21, 2011, 03:15:55 am
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We should probably wait until he gives him projectile attacks.  Maybe then the bar will make more sense.

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#50  August 21, 2011, 03:35:27 am
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it'd be better if he just made a custom stamina bar, but it might be beyond his coding skills,that's  not taking a shot at him.
Also I don't think he's going to come back lol.

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#51  August 21, 2011, 03:42:21 am
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Probably not, which is sad, since I've only seen a few deliberately inflammatory posts in this thread. The rest of it was just us trying to help. Oh well, maybe he'll see this and fix that 'stamina' bar problem, along with the other problems brought up by ecthelion.

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#52  August 21, 2011, 04:14:08 am
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Not taking into account the pages of debates :

- Big portrait is wrong size and misaligned. Should be 140*120 pixels.
- No comment about the text file to rant on Ristar, etc...
- Missing system sounds such as jump up and land.
- Same goes for FX : some smoke when he jumps (like POTS or Rajaa) as well as when he lands would be welcome (especially when seeing the FX when he dashes).
- Ctrl+D is your friend : missing required sprites.
- Debug flood: in state 50: set sysvar out of range (7).
- CLSNs shouldn't really move during stance, and why can't I hit him on the head, he's already small enough.
- Overall, CLSNs are kinda clumsy: crouching has head CLSN misaligned, end of jump back CLSN are really odd.
- Crouching Z : Huh what !?
- Power Charge could get some envshake.
- Doing F,F+y/b (dash kick/elbow) quickly gives a cancel that doesn't produce any woosh sound nor voice.
- Why can I cancel back dash by pressing any button during startup ?
- This also shows that the startup time for backdash as well as forward dash is really slow.
- Also, if you press F,F or B,B without holding the button at the end, Vegeta just produces an animation but doesn't move at all.
- He has double jump, but he kinda misses some mobility in the air, such as air dash or something.
- Double jump doesn't have any sounds.
- The way aerial Z disappears when hitting the ground is not natural. It's missing an explosion, a spark or something. And why does it deal 5 hits ?
- Ki Punch is hard to perform on the ground because you used a statetype!=C trigger. No need for that, as you'll probably be in crouching state when doing the command, since you press Down at the beginning.
- Teleport is so slow it's just useless.
- Teleport attacks are all hard to perform because of the same reasons. You need to use statetype!=A in this case.
- Having the teleport attacks as standalone moves is fine, but you should do something so they can be chained easily. For example, I can't chain Teleport Attack 1 > Teleport Attack 2 properly, but I can do Teleport Attack 2 > Teleport Attack 3 fine since it sends the opponent in the air for follow up. Having the possibility to do follow-ups easily would be really nice and more natural too.
- The power system doesn't make any sense to me: basics sometimes give power and sometimes remove some, while I'm hitting exactly the same button in the same manner and dealing the same damage. If you want to put this system, do it for Ki attacks and specials. Doing that for basics and command moves... doesn't make any sense at all to me. A character doesn't lose stamina from the beginning of the fight from dealing a few hits with his punches.
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