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#1  June 23, 2008, 11:33:25 pm
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So I found my old NES the other day and started playing alot of the games. All I can say is: Holy crap are some of these hard. So what I wanna ask you guys what are your top 10 hardest games of all time? A Hard game can be defined in 3 ways:

1. It is hard because it was made that way. (EX. Contra, Ninja Guiden 1-3.)
2. It is hard because it's confusing. (EX. Castlevania 2, Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask.)
3. It is hard because the game sucks. (EX. Silver Surfer, Fester's Quest.)

Anyways, here's my top 10:

10. Ghosts n' Goblins (NES)
9.Silver Surfer (NES)
8.Super C (NES)
7.Superman 64 (N64)
6.Bubsy (SEGA Genesis)
5.Megaman X (SNES)
4.Castlevania 2: Simons Quest (NES)
3.Dr.Jekyl & Mr.Hyde (NES)
2.Wario Land 3 (GBC)
1.I Wanna Be the Guy (Freeware)

Please post your top 10 like mine.
10= Easiest
1= Hardest.
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8. Sonic the hedgehog(06) : It's hard because it's stupid, it's confusing, and sucks.
7. Ninja Gaiden : It's hard because it's stupid, and sucks.
6. Megaman 2 : It is hard because it was made that way.
5. Donkey Kong 2 : Towards the end it get's really stupid.
4. God Hand : It is hard because it was made that way.
3. Kamen Rider(SNES) : It's hard because it's stupid, and sucks.
3. Resident Evil 1/2/0 : It's hard because it's stupid, and sucks + shitty controls.
2. Spiderman and Venom - Maximum Carnage : It's hard because it's stupid, and sucks.
1. The Addams Family(SNES) :  It's hard because it's stupid, confusing, and sucks.
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#6  June 24, 2008, 02:40:55 am
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Gradius III.
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Donkey Kong Jr. Math and Donkey Kong(Original not Country).
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F-Zero GX
Goldeneye: Rogue Agent
Mario Kart Double Dash (just the All Cup Tour on Mirror. Oh god....)
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#10  June 24, 2008, 03:34:41 am
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BattleToads (Genesis)

they made that game hard for a reason...to prevent you from reaching the end...cuz let me tell you...it just gets disappointing near the end. fuck that game.

oh, and any R-Type game..especially R-Type 3 for the SNES.
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Double Dragon 3 and Mike Tyson's Punch-out!! I can't get past sandman.
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#12  June 24, 2008, 04:48:04 am
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Street Fighter 2
KOF '99

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Street Fighter 2 because the AI is amazing and I can never beat anyone after the 1st stage. The controls are really unresponsive, too. Also, everyone knows how fucked up the damage in every SF2 is, how just about 3 J. HK -> C. HK's will kill you. It's way too high for me to like.

KOF 99...only reason being that just to use regular Kyo and Iori, you have to beat the game with a random team, but every time you advance to a new team to fight, your team randomizes again, so you might get someone you use and/or like, and you might get bottom of the barrel shit characters. Also, you have to get over 9000 400 battle points, which, unless you're ultra-pro, is near IMPOSSIBLE even if you DON'T use continues.

Both games just plain piss me off.

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#16  June 24, 2008, 05:25:57 am
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Super Mario Bros. 2 (FDS) I still haven't beaten it. All of the Legend of Zelda games. They're just too confusing for me. I agree with Uryuu, especially in SF2. As soon as you reach Ryu, he'll spam hadokens like a bitch so your pretty much screwed.

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Street Fighter 2 because the AI is amazing and I can never beat anyone after the 1st stage. The controls are really unresponsive, too. Also, everyone knows how fucked up the damage in every SF2 is, how just about 3 J. HK -> C. HK's will kill you. It's way too high for me to like.

I suppose so. I've played the one that came with that Street Fighter 3 package and it was pretty good along with the SF2 version on XBL. I can at least get a few good wins under the highest, but it's usualy just the first few characters you fight.

KOF 99...only reason being that just to use regular Kyo and Iori, you have to beat the game with a random team, but every time you advance to a new team to fight, your team randomizes again, so you might get someone you use and/or like, and you might get bottom of the barrel shit characters. Also, you have to get over 9000 400 battle points, which, unless you're ultra-pro, is near IMPOSSIBLE even if you DON'T use continues.

Okay, now that sounds liike BS and really nothing I can say about that, well besides thats a hunka bullshit to do for 2 characters. I hate when some fighting games forces you to play threw the hardest level to unlock a character you love. I know this is kinda off topic, but it reminds me of DBGT: Final Bout and playing thrw on Hard Mode just to get SSJ4 Goku.  >:(
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Super Mario Bros. 2 (FDS) I still haven't beaten it. All of the Legend of Zelda games. They're just too confusing for me. I agree with Uryuu, especially in SF2. As soon as you reach Ryu, he'll spam hadokens like a bitch so your pretty much screwed.

I've beaten SMB2 (known as Lost Levels) on the GBC remake of SMB. They get brutal, but still beatable. 8-4 in the original SMB2 is insane though. LoZ isn't so bad, as a lot of time you're given hints as to where to go. Hell, LTTP told you exactly on the map where to go.

As for SF2, Ryu isn't that bad. It's Vega/Balrog. Fast, clings to walls, damn smart AI. Yet I've perfected him with Zangief o_O.
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#21  June 24, 2008, 06:39:32 am
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Castlevania [NES]
Ninja Gaiden [NES]
Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight [NES]
Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man [Arcade]
Metal Slug X and Metal Slug 5 [Arcade]
Codename: Viper [NES]
Geometry Wars [NDS - achieving those high scores in the final levels is a serious challenge I'd rather pass on]

5. Donkey Kong 2 : Towards the end it get's really stupid.

If you can't handle DKC2 then just give up on gaming.
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Not in the correct order at all, just thrown together.

Kid Chameleon, for the Sega Genesis: Some people refer to it as IWTBTG without as many continues, which on all hills of the warrior style stages is absolutely true.

Time Splitters 2 for the PS2 story mode on hard: I don't know if the version I rented was hacked or what, but after the third stage or so it became like a shmup where you needed to memorize annoying patterns. Enemies no longer have any accuracy chances, they will automatically hit, and if they have a sniper rifle they will automatically hit in the head. You need to memorize where enemies are and shoot them before they have a chance to fire, especially with how little life you often have.

Castlevania symphony of the night for the PSX: Not because the game was difficult, it was retardedly easy, but the fact that after a few days you haven't gotten up to do anything aside from going to the bathroom and your body hurts too much to play.

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#23  June 24, 2008, 07:00:37 am
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Super Vehicle 001- Metal Slug wants you dead...it gets hard on stage 5. I just remembered Captain Commando (SNES) and TMNT (NES) get difficult near the end as well.
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Yeah, the later Metal Slugs were designed to milk your quarters. Only way I can beat any of them is if I have an unlimited time card at GameWorks or play it emulated.

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#26  June 24, 2008, 07:15:22 am
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Because it's one of the worst games of all time. It's not hard if you don't even bother to play it.
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#27  June 24, 2008, 07:21:16 am
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The AI in most SF2 games is just utter bullshit unless you actually can be bothered finding holes in them, which is quite retarded when you can be focusing on mind tricks, execution and just getting better fighting humans in general. And in arcades, higher difficulty = they do more damage, you do less damage. Makes it even more stupid.

With characters like Deejay and Cammy, the AI just reads your inputs and their shit just throws you off. Then there is Sagat which is a load of stupid shit. Think Ryu but about 10x worse because his DP goes further than Ken's, his fireballs faster than Ryu's, he can fireball high and low, he's got one long ass sweep, combine it with inhuman AI and you have a seriously pointless character to fight.

I don't really play games outside fighting games, so FFXII was pretty hard on first run through, compared to FFVII/VIII/X/X-2.
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#28  June 24, 2008, 07:28:13 am
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I'd rather deal with SF2's cheap AI than MK2.
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#30  June 24, 2008, 08:39:30 am
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The AI in most SF2 games is just utter bullshit unless you actually can be bothered finding holes in them, which is quite retarded when you can be focusing on mind tricks, execution and just getting better fighting humans in general. And in arcades, higher difficulty = they do more damage, you do less damage. Makes it even more stupid.

With characters like Deejay and Cammy, the AI just reads your inputs and their shit just throws you off. Then there is Sagat which is a load of stupid shit. Think Ryu but about 10x worse because his DP goes further than Ken's, his fireballs faster than Ryu's, he can fireball high and low, he's got one long ass sweep, combine it with inhuman AI and you have a seriously pointless character to fight.

I don't really play games outside fighting games, so FFXII was pretty hard on first run through, compared to FFVII/VIII/X/X-2.
no final fantasy game deseves a spot in the hardest game of all time esecially ff 12
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#31  June 24, 2008, 08:48:24 am
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I haven't played any harder game.
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SF2, Special Champion edition, with the cheat to put it at Max Speed, at the hardest difficulty. Fighting Guile who throws 3 sonic booms in 2 seconds is a bitch. And when you jump, 100% chance he performs sommersault kick. >_<

Ikaruga... I never passed the 3rd Level at the easiest difficulty. --; (Yeah, I'm pretty bad at shoot'em ups, but still)
For the same reason : Radiant Silvergun on Saturn.

Super Robot Taisen series. But I guess not understanding Japanese and so many options doesn't help much.

F355 Challenge, the game which makes you think Gran Turismo is an arcade game a la Outrun.

The Adventures of Batman & Robin on Sega Genesis. This game is so ridiculously hard it's not even funny. >:(

Didn't play them much, but indeed, Ghost'n Goblins and Metal Slug series are really hard.
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#34  June 24, 2008, 02:38:22 pm
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Still no mention of Contra 4? Also Power Instinct Matrimelee and Rage of the Dragons just because Sissy and Johan are frustrating.
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#35  June 24, 2008, 03:16:11 pm
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Castlevania symphony of the night for the PSX: Not because the game was difficult, it was retardedly easy, but the fact that after a few days you haven't gotten up to do anything aside from going to the bathroom and your body hurts too much to play.

i dont understand your logic :S
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5.Megaman X (SNES)

Megaman X was a really easy game, to tell the truth. Once mastered, you could easily beat the game without being killed at all. During the early stages, going to the Armored Armadillo stage allowed you to easily refill your energy tanks. At the end of the game, you could easily refill them at Sigma's level where you must cling and climb the tower.

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#37  June 24, 2008, 03:19:11 pm
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Megaman X is supposed to be really easy? Holy shit I suck.
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Castlevania symphony of the night for the PSX: Not because the game was difficult, it was retardedly easy, but the fact that after a few days you haven't gotten up to do anything aside from going to the bathroom and your body hurts too much to play.

i dont understand your logic :S
too much playing with yourself?

Too much playing, not enough eat/sleep/essential to not die things. ergo since you can pass out from playing too long, eventually a monster would poke you till you died after passing out. =p

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most nes era games were either stupidly easy or annoyingly hard.
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Contra Series (especially the SNES one) : Okay....jumping on flying rockets?!?

Shin blahblahblah Nocturne: Um...can I get a turn now?

Mortal Kombat II (SNES) Hard Mode + Arcade Mode: Damn you CPU with your neutral jumping aireal kick/punch!!!!

Superman 64: Damn you floating rings!!!

Devil May Cry 3: Okay...where's the health power ups?

Tactics Ogre (SNES): Prepare to use multiple save states.

Ninja Gaiden (XBox):  :furious3:

James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing (co-op missions): Rain of bullets + dumb partner = multiple deaths

Tekken 5: *checks difficulty settings again....and again*

R-Type Delta: And this is just the second level?? Geez.

Final Fight (SNES) Leather jackets enable you to guard apparently. And damn you freaking BILLY!!!

Super Mario Kart (Snes): OMG Rainbow Road! *has a seizure*

Ghostbusters (NES): Try beating this without save states. I dare you.

Back to the Future (NES) Yeah! I got the bowling ball now succkas! Hey wait....bowling ball?? O_o

Command and Conquer: Generals (vs terrorists) Since when did missiles not need a power supply?!?!?

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Going to go ahead and throw in Dead or Alive 4.
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Too much playing, not enough eat/sleep/essential to not die things. ergo since you can pass out from playing too long, eventually a monster would poke you till you died after passing out. =p

so it's so addicting that it becomes hard to stop playing
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I have nearly every Contra game. (Missing the Konami GB collection version.) And the series was made to be hard, the same with the Megaman X Collection. I can only beat 4-6, when I play 1-3, I find myself yelling due to the difficulty.

Anyways, adding to the list:

Mischief Makers (N64)
Mario Clash (VB) *WHAT DO I DO!?*
Paper Boy (NES). *But it's probably just me.*
Dr.Mario(Various) *One of the most challenging puzzle games imo.*
Mickey Mania.(SNES) *Fun Game, but it gets harder and harder.*
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I simply don't understand how you could think MMX is difficult. 6 maybe...

7 was really hard for me because of the camera angles. I never beat that one.

The hardest game I remember was Dino Riki. I remember renting it as a child, stepping onto the screen and like 100 baddies swarmed me. I couldn't get past the 1st screen!

X Men COTA (ugh Magneto) and MK2/T
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Can we just drop it?
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1 - Ghosts And Goblins... just insane...
2 - Ninja Gaiden 1, 2 and 3 (Damn you eagles and other flying opponents that hit you exactly mid jump)
3 - Battletoads (nes) :( :( :(
4 - Ikari Warriors
5 - Megaman 1
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Ikari Warriors 2 was harder imo.
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1: The Simpsons: Bart vs. the Space Mutants. All about jumps and their minimum chances of success.
2: Mortal kombat 2. AI can do the impossible + plus all characters fights just the same except Khan and Kintaro.
3: Metal Slug 6.  It's like playing against "mu ni kaerou" spammers, but without guard. Horrible game.

Others that are fairly easy but seems to have all of it's effort at being hard placed in a single spot:

FFXII: Easiest of all FF, but that fight against those two judges inside Dreadnought Leviathan are a pain.
FFTactics: Wiegraf. It's pretty fun, thought.
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Battletoads simply stays at the top for me for hardest, I haven't beaten that game to this day  >:(

There's one that I remember that no one has mentioned, the original Star Fox. That game gets really freakin hard in the later levels. It's beatable, but not until you've torn your hair from your head.
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SVC CHAOS: Guile. Just fucking SVC Guile.

He's always been a beast of sorts.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PMGAASgcSR4

Start here, and watch part 2 and 3 as well.  You KNOW that him put in MUGEN would do all this and more.  It just seems like the sort of thing that'd happen.

There's one that I remember that no one has mentioned, the original Star Fox.

Agreed.  It gets away with it because it's enjoyable(somehow.)  Same with the Contras(Or Probotectors, if you're over here in the U.K.)

Mortal Kombat in most of it's forms outright cheats in favour of the A.I.

A truly difficult game, that sucked the fun out, and challenged at all points...

I actually can't think of one.  Either it's a single section, or it somehow made it bearable.
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Super Marisa World: Slippery controls and bad hit detection (on purpose), large and deceptive levels, required secret exits and finding 100 stars in every stage, and "annoying" bosses with confusing methods of defeat. Then again, this was a fangame based on a danmaku series, so it's to be expected.

Actually the entirety of the Touhou series and most of it's fangames should fall here.
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The 8th Touhou (Imperishable Night) is actually the easiest of the bunch.


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Neverhood
Contra (nes)
kof series (on 9 or 8 I just forgot :P)
Baldurs gate
Counter Strike (I know its no SP game but there is so many good and hard to kill players)
Shadow of Collosus
Crash (Sometimes I just trow Joy pad out the window)
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Heroes 3
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The top ten for me are:

10. Pokemon Red/Blue (MissingNo. Glitch Anyone????) (Gameboy)
9. Castlevania: Aria Of Sorrow (Gameboy Advance)
8. Pokemon Crystal (Gameboy Color)
7. Pokemon Emerald (Battle Frontier is EVIL!) (Gameboy Advance)
6. Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night (Playstation)
5. Parasite Eve (Playstation)
4. Final Fantasy Tactics (Playstation)
3. Castlevania: Curse Of Darkness (Playstation 2)
2. Castlevania: Dawn Of Sorrow (Nintendo DS)
1. Final Fantasy III (Nintendo DS)

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N
Yes, this gets fucking impossible in the 8 and 9 series. Not passing the levels, but having enough TIME to do so, it's just not there.

For those of you who don't know about it, N is a flash game, about a ninja, you do lots of running fast and wall jumping while dodging missiles lasers and bullets. It also has ragdoll physics when you die.


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Superman 64. 'nuff said.


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10. Pokemon Red/Blue (MissingNo. Glitch Anyone?) (Gameboy)
That generally made the game easy. Especially if you saved your masterball and did the 99 items glitch as well. My level 150 haunter beat everything.

KKND2: Krossfire is damned hard, the comp ALWAYS has 10x the resources you do. And he attacks you when you try to get some extra.
Lemmings 2: The tribes. This. Is. Hard.
Tetris. It doesn't end.
Zaxxon (old)
Seadragon (old as well)


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My brain's fucked right now on this one, but for me, it's gotta be Dragon Spirit right now; I get loaded up with all the eggs and magic and by the time I get to the fourth boss, I get killed halfway there.

Also another one is Alien Syndrome. You'd think a bunch of crawly slow ass aliens are simple especially with the fireball or the blowtorch. I'd get punished  because they are pretty accurate with their spit acid (or I just suck)

And these two games I loved so when MAME came out, I couldn't be happier as a kid growing up during that era.... but I still get my ass kicked years later =\ lmao

That's all for right now
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Cannot believe that people didn't inculde this game:


It may not be as hyped as the other namco games but it definately earns the "one of the most hardest games ever."

I remember the frustrations of having two people slam me into the floor tag team style while the other four lackeys kick and punch me as I fall.

Urban Reign: Yeah the game is corny as hell but at least the difficulty makes up for it.
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To this day, I refuse to believe that anyone has ever finished Battletoads for the NES without some sort of cheat or emulation exploit.
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metroid, NES shitty physics
Castlevania SoTN, everything is easy yet addictive, but getting the next level after level 70 (or above I don't remember) is science fiction
SFII, because nigh infinite chain of LKs makes you regret more than 50% lifebar, that and Honda-hug-like grabs
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Let me respond to each of these games (beaten = completed the game overall), long list:

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#76  July 19, 2008, 12:12:23 am
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N: N is for nightmares, forget what Sesame Street told you. I value time, and this game gives me none. HATRED FOR THIS GAME!!! This ninja ought to help me out with his crazy jumping skills in a game I call Jurassic Park for the genesis (more on that later).
In other words you haven't beaten it? I wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has.

Ohshi.... Just loaded it up again, lost every single goddamn level i had done. Fuck.


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#77  July 19, 2008, 12:15:21 am
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4. Final Fantasy Tactics (Playstation)
They had some hard battles in that game, but not till the end, but I hate how in the PSP that they are so much easier to fight now..
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#79  July 19, 2008, 12:39:29 am
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(in one point you say: "this game its impossible...have wrong programation")
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Tetris. It doesn't end.
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that's not tetris for NES  o_O, also tetris 2 for NES has a weird glitch were after getting up to level 16 each time u level up the counter will remain on 16 but the game will go faster anyway (I got up to 18 :P)

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Castlevania SoTN, everything is easy yet addictive, but getting the next level after level 70 (or above I don't remember) is science fiction

yeah, I got to 73 and stopped playing it (I did the rest of the stuff before however, like getting all the items and shit)

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Ninja Gaiden 1-3 (nes): Hard in a mario-ninja way. Beat them, still like them.

funny how the game because EASIER on each sequel  :ninja:

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N: N is for nightmares, forget what Sesame Street told you. I value time, and this game gives me none. HATRED FOR THIS GAME!!! This ninja ought to help me out with his crazy jumping skills in a game I call Jurassic Park for the genesis (more on that later).
In other words you haven't beaten it? I wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has.

Ohshi.... Just loaded it up again, lost every single goddamn level i had done. Fuck.

LOL! I forgot about that game, I may start playing it again someday to finish that shit, but just cheat to get the stages for now :P

also I wonder who actually finished "Adventure Island" without the infinite continue cheat in the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD??
pls
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N: N is for nightmares, forget what Sesame Street told you. I value time, and this game gives me none. HATRED FOR THIS GAME!!! This ninja ought to help me out with his crazy jumping skills in a game I call Jurassic Park for the genesis (more on that later).
In other words you haven't beaten it? I wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has.

Ohshi.... Just loaded it up again, lost every single goddamn level i had done. Fuck.

I actually beat Jurassic Park on Genesis with both the man and the Raptor. Really liked the game.

Didn't care much for the sequel and the game had a lot of glitches, but most genesis games did at the time.
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I meant N, N difficulty >>>> jurassic park.


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I actually beat Jurassic Park on Genesis with both the man and the Raptor. Really liked the game.

Didn't care much for the sequel and the game had a lot of glitches, but most genesis games did at the time.

I beat Jurassic Park on two separate occasions.

With the raptor, I beat it in 5th grade.

I just beat it with Grant TODAY, three HOURS ago.

F Grant. Grant and his feeble pit falling death scream, the game camera not locating his plummet to the pits below, his dumb weapon, his pathetic water raft, and his small edible frame. Did I forget his feeble pit falling death scream and the game camera not locating his plummet to the pits below. Grant, in this game, YOU FAIL IT!

Jurassic Park on the arcade was the first game I beat unassisted. In the summer going to Kindergarten (I was, I think, 5). Man, I was smart.

But, yeah... N is just plain harder overall. Too hard, maybe.
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I loved that game! I even liked the updated Rampage or something like that version. I wish they'ed bring it to the VC already.  :(

It was pretty tough, but Grant's storymode was the worse to me for the same reasons. Fucking T-rex and shitty slow water raft. I beat it with the Raptor, but only got as close as 2/3 of the water raft level. Maybe if I can grab an emulator or get lucky with a XBL Arcade, PSN game or a VC version I can finally beat that Grant level.

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Jurasic Park on Genesis ... that really brings back memories. It was my 2nd video game after SF2-SCE. I was 7 or 8 years old at the time, how could you imagine I could finish the game at this time. :'(
But yeah, it was indeed fucking awesome. :)
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Hmmm. For me, one of the hardest games I've ever played, never beat but got to the last level was.... STUNTMAN for PS2, the original Stuntman, not the new one. That game required absolute precision whereas the slightest nuance of the control pad during a stage could mean disaster.  I dont know how many holes I've punched thru doors and walls playing that game and getting so frustrated from coming SO close to perfect but just not good enough to advance to the next stage.  Advancing to the next level felt so rewarding once you completed it because you knew how fucking hard it was to get there.  I still look at my knuckles and see the bruises from that game.  The game demanded perfection, and again, absolute precision and timing.

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Saint Seiya for nes ... once i spent 6+hours and i couldn't pass the leo house
And The Last Blade 2 has a pretty good AI, level 4 for that game is level 8 for kof
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One thing I've noticed about Neo Geo Fighting games in particular is that after you defeat say 3 fighters, the AI increases itself to the extent that every attack you make is blocked and you feel cornered in that any attack you make is countered.  Sometimes I even believe that Neo Geo fighting AI actually LEARNS your fighting patterns, counters them, and even MIMICS your own patterns after 3 or  4 fighters.

I could understand that arcade games would become more difficult after a few fights so you'd have to pump more quarters in to play, but I really believe that Neo Geo fighters actually learn your own patterns and adapt to fight even harder against you. I'm speaking generally about the earlier Samurai Shodown games, Fatal Fury games, and King of Fighters 94 and 95, all set on difficulty level 4.

Weird shit, man.

So I guess it raises the question, can fighting games actually "learn" from its players' experience and patterns?  Is it possible like in the old 80's movie War Games with Matthew Broderick where the computer learned from playing tick tac toe to never lose?
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KoF 94 is ass. The AI never ever makes a mistake in dodging projectiles. Never. It uses the evade thing with perfect timing, or it jumps, with perfect timing. And if for some reason it can't do either of those, it blocks. Most of the time it manages the dodge though.


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Funny ... I thought this thread was for the "Hardest Games of All Time" ... not seeing too many here. Anyway ... Three from me, off the top of my head.

1. Civilization 1/2/3 (multiple) - There's a reason Deity mode is called Deity mode. And why you can have seven opponents. Enjoy frying your brain.

2. Wizardry (nes) - I recall something about this game having some 50 odd levels ... never could get past level 3. Dungeon crawler, lots of baddies who were ready, willing, and able to send you to hell in the nastiest of ways. IIRC, each level had a special monster encounter. Enjoy your RAEP.

3. Dragon Quest (nes) - I hear a lot of people complain about level grinding in a lot of RPGs. They're all child's play by comparison.
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SF2, all of them: My twin brother hates SF2 with a passion because of the AI/damage increase with difficulty level. Yes, he's an Alpha/SF3 type of player.

Haha, reason I hate SF2. (all of them)

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My twin brother hates SF2 with a passion because of the AI/damage increase with difficulty level

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Explain?  I'm curious.
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#95  November 07, 2008, 12:57:44 pm
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Man, I have enough trouble with Gradius III on the first loop, but I recently watched some videos of the second and third loops, and it's INSANE. Pretty much every enemy and obstacle gets faster, and sprays out tons of bullets when killed. Even the bubbles in stage 2 do it. o_O
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KoF 94 is ass. The AI never ever makes a mistake in dodging projectiles. Never. It uses the evade thing with perfect timing, or it jumps, with perfect timing. And if for some reason it can't do either of those, it blocks. Most of the time it manages the dodge though.

KoF '94 is very hard indeed.
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KoF 94 is ass. The AI never ever makes a mistake in dodging projectiles. Never. It uses the evade thing with perfect timing, or it jumps, with perfect timing. And if for some reason it can't do either of those, it blocks. Most of the time it manages the dodge though.
KoF '94 is very hard indeed.
IIRC you can't play KOF 94 expecting it to be SF2. I learned to play KOF 94 like you're supposed to play KOFs - Aggressive combo-happy ofensive strategies.
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Quantum Fighter(NES).
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Well even though there may be harder ones i have played the first that comes to Mind is Zelda Windwaker for gamecube.
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@ First page, God Hand, Mario Kart DD and MM2 are not all that tough. IMO all MM Classic not 8-9 aren't that tough, but do require trial and error.
Galaxy Fight
Gradius 3
MMX 4-6
Kiby Canvas Curse (A DIFFICULT KIRBY GAME  o_O)
Also, DOA4 has redicurous AI cheat and difficulty scale.
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Galaxy fight was a pretty though game . . .