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Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#1  February 26, 2010, 01:49:40 am
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Nero D.

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#2  February 26, 2010, 01:58:20 am
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...The Fuck? That illustration was literally taken line for line from Tite. What the fuck Gene Simmons' son?
i cant count the reasons i should stay

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Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 02:25:01 am by Heavy Dee Jay

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#3  February 26, 2010, 02:07:56 am
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Game set and match.

Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#4  February 26, 2010, 02:11:54 am
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Hilarious really.

Nero D.

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#5  February 26, 2010, 02:19:43 am
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Yeah it is but...damn. That is some HARDCORE plagiarism right there.
i cant count the reasons i should stay

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#6  February 26, 2010, 02:22:42 am
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#7  February 26, 2010, 02:26:19 am
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Hehe, even the premise sounds similar.  And Bleach of all things.

Has the guy said anything about fighting back?
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#8  February 26, 2010, 02:27:48 am
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I hope so. I wanna see "son of Gene Simmons" get slapped up side the head for being so lame and stupid. lol
i cant count the reasons i should stay

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Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#9  February 26, 2010, 02:29:25 am
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PotS said, February 26, 2010, 02:26:19 am
Hehe, even the premise sounds similar.  And Bleach of all things.

Has the guy said anything about fighting back?
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"Okay.. now looking at some of these photo comparisons, I can see why a few people are up-in-arms. I can tell you right now these are all purely coincidences. I never even heard of Bleach! Who would name a comic after laundry detergent? When I channel my energy when drawing my book sometimes I can pull stuff in that I never seen before. It's like i'm possessed when I start thinking and drawing. Perhaps I just got on the same wave length that all artists share. My dad just called and said I have a real case against all this slander. If Facebook doesn't give into my demands soon there's going to be hell to pay. Now, I have to damage control on another site - more people being mislead. Now I have to deal with this and my book's deadline. I'm not sure how I can think and draw under all this pressure."


if you mean the guy from bleach, he reacted on a twitter post 
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Gene simmons kid is a comic book author?

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#10  February 26, 2010, 02:35:24 am
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i wanna draw and color all night and copy every day

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#11  February 26, 2010, 02:35:55 am
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OK, he has some drawing ability, too bad he doesn't have originality. it should stay as hobby for him

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#12  February 26, 2010, 02:36:24 am
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Iced: that's a troll. :P
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#13  February 26, 2010, 02:38:32 am
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Only if he hacked the dude account, cuz I am checking out the posts on facebook. =p

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#14  February 26, 2010, 02:50:57 am
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Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#15  February 26, 2010, 02:52:54 am
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Actually his deviantart account seems to have a warning that he will sue whoever steals art from him.

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#16  February 26, 2010, 02:54:09 am
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It's almost as if he learned from the Mugen community.
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#17  February 26, 2010, 02:54:14 am
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LOLIrony --; [size=5pt]don't hurt me [User][/size]
i cant count the reasons i should stay

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#18  February 26, 2010, 03:01:47 am
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LOL That's actually impressive on some twisted way XD

I mean anyone that could sit there and go through so many comic pages and basically trace to get so many panels has some sort of deranged talent =D

I wonder how similar his story must be as well to take so many scenes from the mangas magmas!
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#19  February 26, 2010, 03:02:07 am
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Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#20  February 26, 2010, 03:04:00 am
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I QUIT THE AMERICAN MANGA COMMUNITY!

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#21  February 26, 2010, 03:08:22 am
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gene's simmons son is a CHINESE!!!!

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#22  February 26, 2010, 03:24:37 am
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Iced said, February 26, 2010, 03:04:00 am
I QUIT THE AMERICAN MANGA COMMUNITY!
Response #1 American whu?!

Response #2 Iced has given me the duty of being his spokesperson for all his American Manga works he has produced and all the private ones that will inevitably be leaked.

Response #3 WE WON WE WON!!!

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#23  February 26, 2010, 04:42:14 am
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Hadn't even heard about Incarnate before today (/co/-Plagiarism). Drawn like shit, but then again so is Bleach.
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#24  February 26, 2010, 04:47:19 am
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inb4 "he should have tracen a better manga".

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#25  February 26, 2010, 04:53:36 am
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I want to read this Incarnate that you speak of...

But looking at the images that was shown, I say yeah, it's way too similar.

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#26  February 26, 2010, 06:22:16 am
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This is why American's shouldn't draw "manga".

T[S]UKASA (ಠ_ಠ) said, February 26, 2010, 04:42:14 am
Drawn like shit, but then again so is Bleach.

This.

Now I just wish people would react this strongly when a Japanese artist plagiarizes another Japanese artist.

Ikkitousen anyone?

Nero D.

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#27  February 26, 2010, 06:40:12 am
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Or Naruto.
i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...


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Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#28  February 26, 2010, 12:26:08 pm
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#29  February 26, 2010, 04:14:36 pm
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Can we get Greg Land to stop drawing comics now too?

Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#30  February 26, 2010, 04:19:21 pm
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unfortunately, copying work from another artist and reusing your work over and over again while tracing photos and/or porn arent considered on the same level.

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#31  February 26, 2010, 10:05:10 pm
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Iced said, February 26, 2010, 04:19:21 pm
porn

This weirdily sounds familiar. I recall some author doing that when drawing Susan Storm with some hilarious results. Who was that again?


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#32  February 26, 2010, 10:19:04 pm
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#33  February 26, 2010, 10:42:01 pm
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Rikard said, February 26, 2010, 10:05:10 pm
OT: JNP, do you REALLY want to give your character THAT name?  :o
What can I say? You're my hero :o
Though I guess he'll do great things and never be appreciated for it D=

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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#34  February 26, 2010, 10:58:51 pm
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guys check the timestamps, i mean nick's had this idea in his head since he was five, and look he even added another guy too it in one panel. clearly bleach stole from him, and we must inform him!!

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#35  February 26, 2010, 11:13:01 pm
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lol, my brother and I are just cracking our asses up.

Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#36  February 27, 2010, 12:28:58 am
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Further discussion about this with other artists make me believe that the comments are real, the dude once had a tv show that was about him going to live in a frat house like a "normal teenager".
He was back in his parents house in two days because he refused to cook for himself.
Some points were brought up that are very true, he drew like shit back in 2008, ( dev art account) chances are, they paid someone to draw the comic under the guy supervision, put the guy name on it to sell better.

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#37  February 27, 2010, 12:40:38 am
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Am I the only person who doesn't see a trace. The angle between those to drawings is different. The heads have similar features but one is lightly a different angle.

Trace? nah. That is a free hand of a guy with the same features.

Rikard

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#38  February 27, 2010, 12:43:31 am
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Iced said, February 27, 2010, 12:28:58 am
chances are, they paid someone to draw the comic under the guy supervision, put the guy name on it to sell better.

Going by your interpretation the guy probably went "HEY I AM GETTING PAID $50 FOR THE WHOLE THING AND THIS KID WILL GET ROYALTIES, LET'S TRY TO SCREW HIM OVER! PLAGIARISM TIME!". Said guy, should he exist, has a sick, twisted mind and enough balls to go through what it says.

@shamrock:

Free hand drawing huh
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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#39  February 27, 2010, 12:44:51 am
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Yeah, that one's pretty obvious I would say.

Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#40  February 27, 2010, 12:46:09 am
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Its a trace by a dude that cant draw as well

look at one superimposed to the other.









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Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#41  February 27, 2010, 01:52:38 am
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Iced said, February 26, 2010, 04:19:21 pm
unfortunately, copying work from another artist and reusing your work over and over again while tracing photos and/or porn arent considered on the same level.
Greg Land does copy other peoples work, though not as much as he traces from magazines and/or porn.
Rikard said, February 26, 2010, 10:05:10 pm

This weirdily sounds familiar. I recall some author doing that when drawing Susan Storm with some hilarious results. Who was that again?
That would be the very same Greg "pornface" Land:

Greg Land Guessing Game thread at Newsarama said:

5. What emotion are these characters feeling?



1. Joy at being at a really great concert
2. Orgasmic pleasure
3. Horrified fear at being attacked by zombies
4. Great amusement after watching a particularly funny episode of Scrubs

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Iced

Re: Incarnate cancelled for plagiarism.
#42  February 27, 2010, 01:56:37 am
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Jerri Blank said, February 27, 2010, 01:52:38 am

Greg Land does copy other peoples work, though not as much as he traces from magazines and/or porn.


Most of the shown cases are art where the material already belonged to the company, so it becomes moot =| not like its Liefeld trying to show off he can draw huge ships by copying Jim Lee.

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#43  February 27, 2010, 03:05:41 am
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Nucka

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#44  February 27, 2010, 03:16:56 am
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#45  February 27, 2010, 05:24:11 am
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Shamrock, is 2nd The Best said, February 27, 2010, 12:40:38 am
Am I the only person who doesn't see a trace. The angle between those to drawings is different. The heads have similar features but one is lightly a different angle.

Trace? nah. That is a free hand of a guy with the same features.

that's a sucky trace, like teh guy traced it so poorly the angles changed.

Nucka

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#46  February 27, 2010, 05:30:50 am
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Cut the shit.
It looks as good or better than the B&W drawings.

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#47  February 27, 2010, 07:07:08 am
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still it is not easy to trace picture out of magma

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#48  February 27, 2010, 09:16:58 am
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All I have to say is that HE GOT PWNED!  ;D :laugh4:

Thank god that shit got cancelled. His art (on his Deviant Art account) was sooo shitty, he couldn't consider himself a professional artist. Man, that was a good laugh. :rofl:
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Each time someone says that, the favicon keeps being a fucking step arrow for 66 days. >:)
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#49  February 27, 2010, 09:26:18 am
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Either way I'm sure the comic sucked ass. Because he stole from Bleach which also sucks ass  :P

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#50  February 27, 2010, 12:12:09 pm
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#51  February 27, 2010, 12:29:05 pm
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Shamrock is right that they're not traces, they're "just" freehand copies. Let's all forgive Nick. :wacko:
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#52  February 27, 2010, 12:36:12 pm
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#53  February 28, 2010, 03:27:02 am
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Asbestos is more like asworstos when it comes to magma.

What you'd need to properly trace magma is this....
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#54  February 28, 2010, 03:33:11 am
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do not forget the asbestos covered laser pencil

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#55  February 28, 2010, 03:46:54 am
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#56  March 01, 2010, 03:46:44 am
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thank you jesus

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#57  March 01, 2010, 09:22:14 pm
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lol

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#59  March 02, 2010, 12:03:35 am
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I love how the guy turned into the biggest internet noob as soon as all this went down.  The second someone called him out on his bullshit he got furious at everyone, went crying to the sites admins, then threatened massive legal action on everyone who wasn't being extra-special nice to him.  ;P

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#60  March 02, 2010, 02:42:18 am
I just hear about the plagiarism thing the other, and now I see it's canceled. Well, serves 'em right.

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#61  March 02, 2010, 10:54:52 am
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#62  March 02, 2010, 01:44:42 pm
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Iced said, March 02, 2010, 10:54:52 am
because manga is limited and you cant draw things in manga to look that different

he confuses me, was it magma or manga?  ???
if the word manga changed back to magma, then he makes sense, now he sounds retarded, since only a retard can not see difference between doraemon and hokuto no ken

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#63  March 02, 2010, 02:44:58 pm
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i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...


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#64  March 02, 2010, 05:59:04 pm
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"I'm more interested in the fact that Gene Simmons' son is a mangaka than whether he's plagiarizing me or not."
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I like the quote Tite Kubo stated on Twitter. You can tell that hes highly amused than irritated that someone stole from.

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#65  March 02, 2010, 06:10:49 pm
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maybei it's just something to do with celebrity sons named nick.

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He needs to move to Japan and release it as a doujin.
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#67  March 02, 2010, 07:31:05 pm
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at least it will sell a lot more than it ever would.

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#68  March 02, 2010, 09:08:55 pm
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Konata Bernkastel~ said, March 02, 2010, 07:31:05 pm
at least it will sell a lot more than it ever would.
...In AMERICA.

Anyway this guy is a Grade-A jackass for lying like that. First he didn't know he was copying Tite, then he said he just "happened" to draw exactly like Tite: LINE FOR LINE, now it's an homage. I'm an artist, and I frown upon shit like that  :P p.s. watch out yall he gonna try to steal yall shit too lol
i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...


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#69  March 03, 2010, 01:07:48 pm
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#70  March 03, 2010, 01:34:30 pm
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I'd laugh if he pulled a bootleg version of Dragonclaw.
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