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Jackie Chan by Seifer Firehart
#1  April 19, 2011, 06:10:15 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mthTqSpzw
I've started him yesterday, and probably will finish beta very soon. I just need to correct some things, and also need Jackie sounds, better hit sounds and hitsparks. Jackie is 4-button character with classic combos like AAA, ABBA, ABAB, XXXA and many more.
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#2  April 19, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
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Reminds me Dong Dong Never Die characters.

btw. where did you got those sprites?
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#3  April 19, 2011, 06:14:47 pm
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Nice, it's from that weird game where he's the final boss?

Needless to say, you should scale the sprites in the code, so that he doesn't look small compared to other chars.
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#4  April 19, 2011, 06:32:59 pm
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hahah...jackie chan!!!... I love it...but why jackie is using a marching band costume  ;D????...and jackie's head looks so big....
but i like his moves...nice work!

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#5  April 19, 2011, 06:53:30 pm
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btw. where did you got those sprites?
This is what i want to know too, i see some moves i want to use as bases!
Good luck on him!
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#6  April 19, 2011, 06:56:42 pm
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#7  April 19, 2011, 07:16:22 pm
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#8  April 19, 2011, 07:32:41 pm
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He's doing too much damage. a damage dampener would be good.

nice char though.
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#9  April 19, 2011, 07:50:27 pm
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Well, i dont think so. Damage is good. When I fight versus KFM our strength is evenly matched.  About scaling: this size is the best as for me, you can always change scale yourself. Mine char scale is 0.7,0.7.
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#10  April 19, 2011, 08:17:41 pm
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Dash anims, especially backdash, don't look too great, but it's nice to see someone outside the 10000000000 MKP clones putting these sprites to use. :D
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#11  April 19, 2011, 08:50:44 pm
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Nice work you've done in a single day.
I hope he'll have some nice combos so there's some strategy. :)
I hope alignment isn't too hard, looks like some moves have slight misalignement, but I'm not sure.

Good luck. ;)
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#12  April 19, 2011, 09:18:09 pm
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#13  April 19, 2011, 09:20:10 pm
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man looks pretty good so far! all the combos in source look like they're smoothly implemented here

i wish you the best with this, as said before it's good to see these sprites used for something other than some broken-ass mortal kombat compilation

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#14  April 19, 2011, 09:29:53 pm
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I'd welcome Hyper or Drunk Jackie with open warms, but it's good to see this fun game get some love nonetheless.

Will keep an eye on your WIP.
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#15  April 19, 2011, 09:34:17 pm
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btw. where did you got those sprites?
This is what i want to know too, i see some moves i want to use as bases!
Good luck on him!

same here. although the animations were jerky the poses and move positions were good

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#16  April 20, 2011, 10:32:29 am
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#17  April 20, 2011, 05:37:20 pm
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There was a Jackie made like this before with MK gameplay and fatalities. Will yours be like Fists of Fire gameplay or custom?
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#18  April 20, 2011, 11:09:39 pm
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I don't know what is this Fists of Fire, never played. Im making Dragon Ball chars, but I found these sprites and I thought: maybe I will make a "human"? xD I would really like to make some Tae Kwon Do based characters so dont be suprised if Jackie will be a better fighter with legs than hands.
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#20  April 21, 2011, 12:20:26 am
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I don't know what is this Fists of Fire, never played. Im making Dragon Ball chars, but I found these sprites and I thought: maybe I will make a "human"? xD

I'd strongly recommend you play Fists of Fire then, because that would give you a better understanding of how the character works in the source game and could potentially improve this WIP.
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#21  April 21, 2011, 01:10:40 am
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I don't know what is this Fists of Fire, never played. Im making Dragon Ball chars, but I found these sprites and I thought: maybe I will make a "human"? xD

I'd strongly recommend you play Fists of Fire then, because that would give you a better understanding of how the character works in the source game and could potentially improve this WIP.

I agree with Shunt666, but it looks too difficult due to how the ROMs of The Kung-Fu Master Jackie Chan and its revision Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire were dumped.  Japanese MUGEN contributors like Mass appear to be doing amazingly well on characters from hard-to-run-in-MAME arcade games like IGS' Alien Challenge and Kaneko's first fighting game with their Kaneko label, Shogun Warriors.


hahah...jackie chan!!!... I love it...but why jackie is using a marching band costume  ;D????

That is based on his appearance in his groundbreaking 1983 film Project A.


Reminds me of MK. :)

Which means MK was the first to introduce digitized live actor sprites and death. :P


I assume they're from jackie chan fist of fire

Yes they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ij04VrTgBk

Jackie Chan in Fist of Fire is a revision of The Kung-Fu Master Jackie Chan, released a bit earlier.
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#22  April 21, 2011, 06:07:49 am
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AWESOME! The only other version of this that exists is an MKP version, it's great you're making a normal one!
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#23  April 21, 2011, 09:37:27 am
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I agree with Shunt666, but it looks too difficult due to how the ROMs of The Kung-Fu Master Jackie Chan and its revision Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire were dumped.

Not if he runs the game on MameUI32.
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#24  April 21, 2011, 04:54:29 pm
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They could make a fighting game where the roster was nothing but beavers made out of cotton candy and I'd play if the gameplay was good because that's really all I give a shit about.
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#25  April 21, 2011, 11:43:34 pm
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#26  April 22, 2011, 04:09:29 am
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Well, after watching some videos about Fists of Fire, I must say its shit. I dont like this kind of gameplay. Mine Jackie Chan is much more real. Well, I wont waste time explaining it, see for yourself. Im releasing beta version. Only few things are left to do. So here's the link and enjoy: http://www.4shared.com/file/saUDuOH8/Jackie_Chan_by_Seifer_Firehart.html
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Last Edit: April 22, 2011, 04:33:31 am by Seifer Firehart
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#27  April 22, 2011, 03:54:56 pm
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Yeah, Kaneko was well known for making the crappiest games ever conceived!

Downloading now!
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#28  April 23, 2011, 01:38:42 am
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The 9000,1 Portrait shouldn't be that big. The proper size is 120x140
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#29  April 23, 2011, 05:32:40 pm
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Character looks to be fun.
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#30  April 24, 2011, 12:29:58 am
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I think it was amazing that you kept him very simple!

By the way, I found that 0.8 scale fits better than the 0.7 scale you're using on him.
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#31  April 24, 2011, 02:20:49 am
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It depends on your taste. I still prefer 0.7. Next char will probably be Kim Kaphwan with familiar gameplay.
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#32  April 24, 2011, 04:26:33 am
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Feedback:
Gameplay-
-I move in one place for a second or two if I hold forward and x at the same time. I'm guessing thats not supposed to happen.
-Based on the animation [a],[a],[a] seems like it's supposed to chain, but it doesn't.The third kick misses,or maybe my timing just sucks.
-That's one long ass forward dash!!! o_O
General-
-His clsn need to be revamped imo. His stance doesn't really need the boxes to move according to his animation. A stationary one would be just fine.It should also be moved further back to about his shoulder as well.You're also using way too many boxes in general(jumping, blocking,crouching,etc.)Stuff like this
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could be simplified.
. Two or three blue ones to cover a reasonable area is better, no need to hit every area of the sprite.
-His normals have no vulnerability at all near the red boxes. It means he can beat out a lot of the opponents moves without worrying about trades, making them too good.Too many red hit boxes on these as well.
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-Lots of debug messages you might want to check out.
T'sall for now
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#33  April 24, 2011, 03:11:03 pm
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Yeah! Thanks for feedback El Presidente, now I know what needs to be corrected before 1.0
-this is annoying bug, will be removed in next version
-I don't know with witch opponent you were fighting, maybe he was too short. The second kick will throw opponent in air a little bit higher in next version.
-It's combining with air kicks. Try dash then "A" or "B" or even "A""B"
-Is it wrong that it's a bit more accurate?
-Forgot about that xD New Clsn2 will be added in next version.  :sugoi:
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#34  April 24, 2011, 03:35:47 pm
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Wow!  A Jackie Chan MUGEN character!  Is it possible to make him bigger please????  Good job, keep it up!

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>> Yeah, Kaneko was well known for making the crappiest games ever conceived!
You are so dead wrong!   >:(   Kaneko has made a very unique side-scrolling shooter called Heavy Unit.  You know how long people have waited that to be emulated in MAME!

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#35  April 24, 2011, 03:52:22 pm
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-Is it wrong that it's a bit more accurate?
If you mean accurate in terms of how the hit boxes are placed, it is better to simplify them other wise you might get some messed up hit detection. His normals kinda look similar to Koopakoot's Adelheid normals and command normals so you can use them as a reference point for some of Jackie's moves. You could also look at any veteran creators stuff as reference instead, it will help immensely.
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#36  April 24, 2011, 04:23:33 pm
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Will try that. You can change scale in chan.cns. Next versions will have two type of .cns. One with scale 0.7 just like now and other with 1.0 (tell me if you want other) and with accurate hitsparks.
Anyway, some of you may have a problem with his speed. Jackie is real-type of character with no super moves or something like that but it's a bit difficult to play with a faster opponent even KFM. I was wondering what to do with power bar for Jackie and got an idea to make a stamina bar out of it. When he will have more than 2000 of power his attack will be about 2x faster than normal. More than 1000 and he will have normal speed attacks, just like now. Less than 1000 and his attacks will be slower. Of course stamina will replenish faster when just standing.
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#37  April 25, 2011, 06:27:05 pm
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@Magma Dragoon MK II:
>> Yeah, Kaneko was well known for making the crappiest games ever conceived!
You are so dead wrong!   >:(   Kaneko has made a very unique side-scrolling shooter called Heavy Unit.  You know how long people have waited that to be emulated in MAME!

My statement doesn't mean all of it's games were crappy. But let's get back to the topic.
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#38  April 27, 2011, 07:24:14 am
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Kaneko's library is far from crappy.
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