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Started by GOH, June 30, 2011, 11:45:05 am
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Jailed for Streaming?
#1  June 30, 2011, 11:45:05 am
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#2  June 30, 2011, 11:50:32 am
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Serious business.

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#3  June 30, 2011, 11:52:42 am
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More worrying than that is the fact that this would also cover Mugen as well, being an electronic reproduction of copyrighted material.

Less worrying is the fact that the Mugen community has already effectively been given carte blanche by Capcom and other companies.  It isn't a stretch to imagine them doing the same thing for the free publicity that comes with Youtubers and tournament holders.  Also, I'd imagine this would only apply to streamers based in America.

I've got a more in-depth write-up here.
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#4  June 30, 2011, 08:10:44 pm
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Wait....... So they're going to put us in jail just for streaming video games?  o_O

That's not right.... That's just awful in so many ways. We have the freedom to show whatever we want to. Video games are meant to be played & shared. First they tell us off for uploading copyright movies & TV, now they're doing this for video games as well? What a load of bull.  :P

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#5  June 30, 2011, 08:17:41 pm
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#6  June 30, 2011, 08:27:12 pm
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#7  June 30, 2011, 10:15:15 pm
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So let me understand what it means by "Jailed for Streaming Videogames"

1. A person plays a videogame... like MvC3 or something....

2. They record themselves playing it using a camera or a capture device.

3. They upload it to Youtube or somewhere else on the internet.

4. They get jailed. Because they did the above three things.

Is this correct?
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#8  July 01, 2011, 12:04:31 am
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More like:

1. A person plays a videogame... like MvC3 or something....

2. They record themselves playing it using a camera or a capture device without the IP holder's permission.

3. They upload it to Youtube or somewhere else on the internet more than 10 times, and made a profit from it.

4. They get jailed. Because they did the above three things.

Personally I see that sort of thing as unlikely because:
Saltmine said:
Tournaments and streams are effectively free advertising, free beta testing, free publicity; without all these audio-visual bells and whistles we’ve taken for granted it’d be hard to maintain the fighting games community as it is, and no community means no market for their product.  Indeed, companies employ staff full-time to manage their shares of the community; the likes of Seth Killian or FilthieRich would be unlikely to shrug off the people that put them where they are today.  Publishers enjoy a somewhat symbiotic relationship with their communities; if one half of the equation is under threat of getting locked up, it’s hard to imagine the other half staying idle while it happens.

Indeed, that was Chrstian Svensson's reaction.  We're talking about a company that is starting to facilitate YouTube uploads in their own software; I'm pretty sure they won't mind a great deal.
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#9  July 01, 2011, 02:58:08 am
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I don't se why stupid gamers should have more rgihts than tvstations, so yeah, good work on jailing that criminal.
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#10  July 03, 2011, 01:41:53 am
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I hardly say much on this site.

But I'll speak here the ONLY thing this law affects are people who stream UFC, WWE and Sporting events. It's not going to damn somebody to Prison for Video games or using a song as background music in a you tube video.

I don't get my news on these matters from a bunch of idiots.

I only listen to the EFF and the EFF doesn't paint this as a bleek issue just a concerning one.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/felony-penalties-proposed-illegal-streaming-senate

Here read the bill yourself. It's nothing to worry about.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978

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#11  July 03, 2011, 04:38:40 am
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The biggest problem I have seen with japanese law is that they are very open to interpretation and very meta, so a law that's open to interpretation references another thing that is also open to interpretation, so if the jury wishes you are fucked (go to jail, lose your job, etc.) because you helped a child find his parents, while a teacher only gets a one week suspension for raping that same kid.
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#13  July 03, 2011, 11:33:36 pm
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If streaming any videogames gets you in Jail then I guess streaming mugen makes it worst... ok from now on I won't share streaming live videos of mugen on my Jtv channel.... I don't want people to kick open the door of my apartment while I sleep....  :S
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#14  July 05, 2011, 03:33:21 am
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If this law makes people post less mugen videos in youtube I am applying for my usa citizenship asap so I can vote in favour of it.
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#15  July 05, 2011, 04:07:12 am
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Too bad it probably won't affect international video creators...

[size=1pt]Oh wait, don't tell me it'll affect those outside of the US as well...[/size]
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#16  July 05, 2011, 02:27:00 pm
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[size=1pt]Oh wait, don't tell me it'll affect those outside of the US as well...[/size]
Unless Youtube have servers outside the US (which, if they don't, they should probably start seriously thinking about) I would imagine they would delete videos, but as far as people getting extradited to face charges I don't think so.  I know for a fact that Australia are pretty stringent about their fair use laws (including things like using material for parody, instruction, etc.), and while we have seen people extradited for large-scale cracking software, no one will get shipped off to Guantanamo over something like this.
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#17  July 05, 2011, 11:33:16 pm
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streaming ppv events might get jailed even if outside the usa.
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#18  July 06, 2011, 12:18:43 am
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So the government's solutions to solving the debt is by locking up anyone and fining anyone for recording or streaming entertainment?
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#19  July 06, 2011, 12:31:38 am
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#20  July 06, 2011, 04:08:10 am
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Just like some overreact to new American laws?

streaming ppv events might get jailed even if outside the usa.
Extradition over a stream?  No.  No government would stand for it.
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#21  July 06, 2011, 04:34:02 am
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#23  July 09, 2011, 08:15:50 pm
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I'm sure some people have probably answered this somewhere and I didn't see it, but how would this affect some of the critics/reviewers like AVGN, Nostalgia Critic, or even me?
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I'm sure some people have probably answered this somewhere and I didn't see it, but how would this affect some of the critics/reviewers like AVGN, Nostalgia Critic, or even me?

teh same way it would affect them if theywere on tv I guess.

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#26  July 13, 2011, 04:36:36 pm
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yes..its true..the us gouvernment plans to censor the internet as bad as china does it when it goes after the opinions of not few politicans. (especially conservatives)

i am german, but some websites here wrote about this crap already

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