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Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/2010
#1  August 02, 2010, 09:32:19 am
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Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 07:14:01 pm by LordMike

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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#2  August 02, 2010, 12:09:19 pm
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I can honestly say, this is THE best Kenshiro put out yet, I wouldn't mind if SAIKEI made the rest of the cast :P

Leonheart

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#3  August 02, 2010, 07:54:01 pm
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Nice another person made another Kenshiro.
+Fast Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken like the Arcade/Ps2.
-No FATAL KO sign after Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken.
-Star guage is out of place.
-Aura guage is aslo out of place.
-AI plays like crap.

Lordmike, I have faith in you to fix this Kenshiro.

"Learn to fight, not to flail."

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#4  August 02, 2010, 10:46:50 pm
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ArcTheLad said, August 02, 2010, 07:54:01 pm
Nice another person made another Kenshiro.
+Fast Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken like the Arcade/Ps2.
-No FATAL KO sign after Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken.
-Star guage is out of place.
-Aura guage is aslo out of place.
-AI plays like crap.

Lordmike, I have faith in you to fix this Kenshiro.

I'm way ahead of ya'! :D
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#5  August 03, 2010, 03:17:18 am
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Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#6  August 03, 2010, 03:38:02 pm
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All I care about is whether this one functions in 1.0+; drowin's does NOT(something to do with the sound file).  We'll soon find out.

EDIT: Success!

Doesn't HAVE AI at this point.
Doesn't recognise others, save Raoh; Ken will auto-activate Muso Tensei(No animation, the flame just appears) one time after being brought to half life. 
No speaking during taunt.
The blog does state he's about 70% or so.  Maybe he'll improve without Lordmike's help.
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Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 04:17:43 pm by Bloodly

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#7  August 03, 2010, 04:31:52 pm
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Sound file rip at 70%. Sprites and animations at 90% to be exact.

I am working on his edit since yesterday, here is an improved version of him:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

DL link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qhlld5

Features added:
-Fatal KO sign and sound
-special intros
-added all missing sounds (for taunt, face slap, etc)
-aura bar with God Fist Blow and Deadly Fist Blow text messages
-new vital stars position
-special Fatal KO win speeches for Raoh, Shin, Toki, Jagi, Rei, Souther

I don't understand how his Muso Tensei auto activates at 50% life...For me it works fine:

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Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 04:38:34 pm by lordmike

Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#8  August 03, 2010, 06:07:11 pm
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Don't misunderstand.  He can activate it normally, that's all well and good.  But it also auto-activates with a single charge if he gets hit by Raoh's Air Sai.  This is Drowin's Raoh, mind you; don't have any others.  Also I'm on 1.0+.  Still, it's an...oddity.
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Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 06:14:23 pm by Bloodly

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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#9  August 10, 2010, 07:45:29 pm
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While I was playing, in the second round of a fight I got the enemy to death star level, and the Fatal K.O. music started. Actually I liked that effect, but I couldn't reproduce that again. Is it actually a feature that activates with some flag, or is it a bug? If it is, it was an awesome bug; I'd like it as an actual feature!
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#10  August 10, 2010, 08:19:24 pm
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TheMajinZenki said, August 10, 2010, 07:45:29 pm
While I was playing, in the second round of a fight I got the enemy to death star level, and the Fatal K.O. music started. Actually I liked that effect, but I couldn't reproduce that again. Is it actually a feature that activates with some flag, or is it a bug? If it is, it was an awesome bug; I'd like it as an actual feature!

Cool. :D
Stuff like only happened in the Arcade/PS2 version so far.
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#11  August 11, 2010, 05:04:36 pm
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Can you please edit his AI and upload the patch? I prefer Kenshiro to be ruthless on the battlefield.

Other than that, everything else is working out like a charm. Kudos.

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#12  August 11, 2010, 06:11:39 pm
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FF2468 said, August 11, 2010, 05:04:36 pm
Can you please edit his AI and upload the patch? I prefer Kenshiro to be ruthless on the battlefield.

Other than that, everything else is working out like a charm. Kudos.

Mr. SAIKEI started working on his AI patch a few days ago. I'll post it here when it's done.
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI released 2/08/2010
#13  August 11, 2010, 06:22:48 pm
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Alright. Thanks for the info.

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/08/2010
#14  August 12, 2010, 09:05:18 pm
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Along with some minor twists, SAIKEI added an AI patch for Kenshiro.
http://31kei.blog88.fc2.com/

Click on his blog on these 2 items:
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sff,sndファイルDL
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TheMajinZenki

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/08/2010
#15  August 12, 2010, 10:39:21 pm
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what about your fixes, like the Fatal KO sign and sound? did he add those?
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/08/2010
#16  August 12, 2010, 11:14:19 pm
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TheMajinZenki said, August 12, 2010, 10:39:21 pm
what about your fixes, like the Fatal KO sign and sound? did he add those?

No. Just an amazing AI patch.
I've just finished testing it.
It rapes every char that i have with good AI.
His guard is flawless, and counter moves are timed perfectly, he evades with Muso Tensei if necesary.
Only thing missing is a little more dribble, but he does that wall bounce and it's enough.

I'm working on the edit. Should be ready in a few minutes. You can find the edit here: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119293.msg1172253#msg1172253
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Last Edit: August 12, 2010, 11:44:46 pm by lordmike

Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/08/2010
#17  August 14, 2010, 07:31:04 pm
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*sighs*

Not only are the combos straight out of the major combo vids, but the A.I. is reading your movements to block you and hit you at exactly the right time.(This can get it into positions where it won't move till you do, even against AI-it's so reactive it's silly.)

Can't say I'm entirely happy, as those combos are the hallmarks of experts and require heavy knowledge and decent to expert timing-a human can fail in this, the A.I will not.
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Last Edit: August 14, 2010, 08:20:54 pm by Bloodly

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/08/2010
#18  August 16, 2010, 05:10:07 pm
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 25/08/2010
#19  August 25, 2010, 09:56:39 am
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Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 25/08/2010
#20  August 28, 2010, 01:42:49 pm
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Some sort of update today, too.
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 31/08/2010
#21  August 30, 2010, 09:32:52 pm
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Updated, 31.08.2010
Palette's galore!  :suttrox:
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 31/08/2010
#22  September 01, 2010, 03:08:24 pm
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Updated, 01/09/2010
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Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 01/09/2010
#23  September 04, 2010, 06:44:22 am
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The Shin palette is the most...amusing.

Only way the 7-12 palettes could be greater is if Muso Tensei gave him moves from the source of the palette.

Oh, and the man's aware of you, Lord Mike, and he's quite happy with you.  Well Done.
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 01/09/2010
#24  September 04, 2010, 11:34:24 am
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Bloodly said, September 04, 2010, 06:44:22 am
The Shin palette is the most...amusing.

Only way the 7-12 palettes could be greater is if Muso Tensei gave him moves from the source of the palette.

Oh, and the man's aware of you, Lord Mike, and he's quite happy with you.  Well Done.

I saw that. I couldn't be more proud. :D
BTW, he included the aura bar with GFB and DFB messages in Kenshiro. He just posted a screenshot. :sugoi:
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 04/09/2010
#25  September 04, 2010, 06:08:30 pm
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Updated, 04/09/2010

And a happy birthday to Mr.Saikei. I understand it is his birthday today.
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/06/10
#26  September 06, 2010, 11:52:11 am
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Updated, 09/06/10

*.snd file is fixed. At Fatal KO he will use the ATATATATATATA in it's long version.

Some feedback i have to add: the AI is far too weak now.
He misses half of his regular combos. He gets in 2A+2C, aerial 2D and then he uses wrong moves and miss-hits any opponent.
If you have a character that can use&abuse projectiles (like Thouther) you can beat him easy.
If you use Thouther's Nanto Bakueisha aerial+ground against him and follow up with a vanishing strike you can get him in a corner and combo him for 3-5 stars in a row.
Mamiya can use her ground helmet attack+vanishing strike to corner him for good combos too.
Jagi can use his gun/mouth spike to beat him too.
In the first round he is a sitting duck. He doesn't do anything. Just throws a random punch or kick...
In round 2,3,etc he comes back strong at you, but if you repeat the attacks from the first round he will repeat the mistakes from the first round.
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Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 03:51:45 pm by lordmike

Bloodly

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/06/2010
#27  September 09, 2010, 04:15:48 pm
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A.I activation is always a problematic thing.  That is the 'doesn't do anything on round 1' you note.  It's occured with many, many characters, as you're well aware.

I'm willing to regard the missing combos as a good thing, given he's capable of doing 50-70% of your health with absolutely no resistance possible from even the first hit and previously he was not messing up EVER.  It may be accurate, but it's also un-fun to fight, as the way he fights(In this case, reactive for the most part-block then counter) leaves no possibility of an opening, especially once Muso Tensei goes up.  The same's true of Nericya's Toki(Who is massively agressive), who I like as a character, but hate to fight for the same reason.  EDIT: From my checking of him in Watch he hasn't changed at all.  Probably just the A.I not activating.

It's not surprising projectiles screw him over: He's set to block/Tensei anything incoming, and projectiles count, but can't be Tensei'd(or at least he's not rigged to try).  So he blocks and waits.  A sufficiently fast attack can lead to similar problems if he gets cornered, because he doesn't push the opponent off naturally.  You're blaming him for something that isn't entirely his fault.
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Last Edit: September 09, 2010, 04:33:06 pm by Bloodly

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/12/2010
#28  September 12, 2010, 02:45:47 pm
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Updated, 09/12/2010
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/25/2010
#29  September 25, 2010, 03:39:30 pm
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Updated, 09/25/10
Saikei updated him twice!
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/25/2010
#30  September 30, 2010, 09:53:44 pm
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/25/2010
#31  September 30, 2010, 10:00:49 pm
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You sure it's not a palette?

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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 09/25/2010
#32  September 30, 2010, 10:10:18 pm
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Can some 1 place a  full updated  link for download??? thanks in advance. And no...i dont think is a palette.

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 10/07/2010
#33  October 07, 2010, 06:19:37 pm
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Updated, 10/07/10
-some bug fixes
-minor AI changes
-something about the star gauge
-technical adjustments
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emj

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 10/07/2010
#34  October 09, 2010, 05:43:06 am
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 ;) Best Kenshiro ever.......

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 10/11/2010
#35  October 11, 2010, 12:36:47 pm
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 10/11/2010
#36  October 15, 2010, 04:59:16 am
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@emj

Bit of a hyperbole, don't you think?

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 11/02/2010
#37  November 02, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
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Updated, 11/02/10
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 11/29/2010
#38  November 28, 2010, 07:16:28 pm
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Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/01/2010
#39  December 01, 2010, 05:35:00 pm
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Updated, 12/01/10 (12/02 JP time)
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xyrz

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/01/2010
#40  December 04, 2010, 07:25:51 pm
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Where can I download his stuff? Sites says 404 error on the cns

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/01/2010
#41  December 04, 2010, 08:14:35 pm
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/01/2010
#42  December 04, 2010, 08:17:59 pm
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Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/2010
#43  December 05, 2010, 07:14:23 pm
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Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/10
何故諦める必要がある？　何を迷うことがある奪い取れ。今は悪魔が微笑む時代なんだ。

Leonheart

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/2010
#44  December 06, 2010, 01:37:54 am
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I have this version and Cameron's version. Can you fix the position of Cameron's Kenshiro's Star Gauge? Kinda off a bit down.

"Learn to fight, not to flail."

Lord Mike

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/2010
#45  December 06, 2010, 12:12:32 pm
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I did that quite some time ago. You should have asked.  :P
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Leonheart

Re: Kenshiro by SAIKEI updated 12/05/2010
New #46  December 06, 2010, 12:57:37 pm
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Nice I didn't know about it. Do you still have the link for it?

EDIT: Found him on your site under Extra. Problem is his AI activates at the start of the round so you can't really control him. Is there a fix for this?

"Learn to fight, not to flail."
Last Edit: December 06, 2010, 01:16:29 pm by ArcTheLad
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