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Leon S. Kennedy
#1  September 09, 2009, 02:23:33 pm
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#2  September 09, 2009, 02:37:02 pm
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Uh, releases by YOU go in teh YOUR releases section

Wait a sodding minute: You didn't make this. This is merely a shitty spriteswap of Seanalty's Solid Snake.
Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#3  September 09, 2009, 03:10:04 pm
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i know this is just my firts  :-\
Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#4  September 09, 2009, 03:26:12 pm
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Spriteswaps do not count as creations

And it isn't YOURS if you just sprite swapped another's work
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#5  September 09, 2009, 03:56:49 pm
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Sorry, spriteswaps aren't creations, dude.

You're gonna have to try harder than that, like...making your own character from scratch?
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#6  September 09, 2009, 06:37:50 pm
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Even then the sprites look more like a random 5 minute MSPaint job than Leon Kennedy.
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#7  September 09, 2009, 06:58:20 pm
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For a moment, I though Raposo released his Leon and someone else posted the news it before the creator did...

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#8  September 09, 2009, 07:00:48 pm
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#9  September 09, 2009, 07:17:03 pm
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#10  September 09, 2009, 07:21:52 pm
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wow you spriteswapped seanaltly's snake YOU SHOULD REALLY BE PROUD OF YOURSELF
did you learn any coding at all? or just how to spriteswap?
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#11  September 09, 2009, 07:22:13 pm
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#12  September 09, 2009, 07:23:46 pm
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....his hand actually cuts off.

This isn't even a properly done spriteswap :gonk:
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#13  September 09, 2009, 07:31:37 pm
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#17  September 09, 2009, 08:12:21 pm
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Hey. He Is based off of RE4 Leon.
I did not noticed. Thank you.
Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#18  September 09, 2009, 09:16:30 pm
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hi iamm the new guy   :)
my code name ist bocodamondo you can see all about me in http://www.youtube.com/bocodamondo
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iam here to show you guys my FIRST mugen character ever!!!
this is my first made and thats why something bad on it is : sry then


here is the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/276945882/leon.rar.html

and here a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfHcfUrJuDI


and is it cool or bad ?

Umm..................
please don't ever spriteswap again :sad3:
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#19  September 09, 2009, 09:41:27 pm
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Ouch. I'm not going to get all up in arms about permission and what not, but I do suggest you try a bit harder than just spriteswapping, especially if those sprites represent the pinnacle of your spriting ability. The coding, FX, and move ideas are very solid, if a bit...familiar.

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#20  September 09, 2009, 11:09:56 pm
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Damn I havent seen something this bad ina minute.
Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#21  September 09, 2009, 11:19:36 pm
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ok guys thanks for the info
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i have a porbeme with make own moves

i dont know where can i make the damage point and i let the red or blue squear  work
can anyone help me please
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#22  September 10, 2009, 12:03:24 am
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#23  September 10, 2009, 12:18:57 am
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Gtfo.

ok guys thanks for the info
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i have a porbeme with make own moves

i dont know where can i make the damage point and i let the red or blue squear  work
can anyone help me please

Hey, welcome to your first attempt at mugen, as far as first attempts go, it could have been better but its still interesting that you took the time to do that all, you might want to start playing around with KFM before trying to make more stuff, edit small stuff on it as a way of learning.
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#24  September 10, 2009, 04:16:23 am
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Yes lets all encourage this guy to clutter up the forum with more garbage like this, brilliant!
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#25  September 10, 2009, 06:24:17 pm
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Everybody starts somewhere. Some don't start great, but almost everybody can progress to the point of making okay creations.
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#26  September 10, 2009, 10:06:34 pm
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#27  September 10, 2009, 10:38:12 pm
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This made me laugh. But yeah, at least you ACTUALLY made something so thats something to be proud of. My advice is that if you are going to make a character, make sure he isn't some sprite swap of an already existing character (Seanality's Solid Snake). Leon is too cool to not have his own moveset.

Graphic wise, its alright if thats the best you can do. So users are setting their standards too high like their expecting GGXX like characters. Hey, at least you arn't the 5000th person to do a unnecessary sprite swap of Ryu. ;P

But listen to the veterens of Mugen and you yourself will become a better creator.
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#28  September 10, 2009, 11:06:45 pm
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Just because u haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen
I've seen worse first creations anyway
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#30  September 10, 2009, 11:52:13 pm
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#31  September 11, 2009, 02:34:32 am
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#32  September 11, 2009, 02:42:13 am
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#33  September 11, 2009, 03:14:01 am
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 o_O this char just made my eyes bleed,it looks like a child made it,lol ha ha ha,its 7 pm why arent you in bed. :o
Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#34  September 11, 2009, 03:27:02 am
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He just needs standards and drive. Hell, I didn't even release my incomplete character years back because I wanted to make something decent.

I, personally, heavily look down upon spriteswapping and then saying that it's your first creation as if it was alright.
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


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If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.
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#35  September 11, 2009, 04:25:44 am
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#36  September 11, 2009, 05:28:00 am
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Everybody starts somewhere. Some don't start great, but almost everybody can progress to the point of making okay creations.
That's true but I've never seen anyone start off this bad and release something actually playable later.
At least he's being creative ... somehow.
I'm creative every time I go to the toilet

If I took pictures of that and sprite swapped some character that would probably be better than this, but that doesn't mean its a good idea
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#37  September 11, 2009, 05:47:41 am
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I'm creative every time I go to the toilet

If I took pictures of that and sprite swapped some character that would probably be better than this, but that doesn't mean its a good idea

Not that you care, I'm sure, but I have more respect for the guy that spriteswapped my hard work and called it "his" first character than you. You're just being a dick now. These guys are right, at least he tried to make something, he's just a newb and he'll either learn how things work and keep trying or give up. Either way he's more valuable to this community than you.
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#38  September 11, 2009, 07:25:57 am
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May have been an ugly start, but hopefully it will flow more smoothly next time. Yeah We could use a re-upload. :2thumbsup:
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#39  September 11, 2009, 08:47:24 pm
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I'm creative every time I go to the toilet

If I took pictures of that and sprite swapped some character that would probably be better than this, but that doesn't mean its a good idea

Not that you care, I'm sure, but I have more respect for the guy that spriteswapped my hard work and called it "his" first character than you. You're just being a dick now. These guys are right, at least he tried to make something, he's just a newb and he'll either learn how things work and keep trying or give up. Either way he's more valuable to this community than you.
If the creator of the original creation is cool with it having happened then why don't you just drop it?
Maybe the spriting is a bit shitty, but at least he gave it a go.

I don't see any release threads with your name on them.
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#40  September 11, 2009, 09:41:01 pm
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I think you guys should just chill and stop the flames. The creator already learned his lesson to not sprite swap and Seanality has already forgivin him. There is no point at the moment to to bash anyone.
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#41  September 11, 2009, 10:11:23 pm
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Wait, MrSteve81, are you talking to me or InputInterface? You quoted me but you seem to be replying to Input. I'm confused.

I think you guys should just chill and stop the flames. The creator already learned his lesson to not sprite swap and Seanality has already forgivin him. There is no point at the moment to to bash anyone.

I agree, I was just agreeing with the people who said at least he tried to make something. Also, it's SeanAltly, not to be rude or anything.
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#42  September 11, 2009, 11:18:36 pm
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I quoted you to show that you knew it had happened and were ok with it.

Sorry if confusion took place.
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#43  September 11, 2009, 11:53:52 pm
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#44  September 12, 2009, 02:06:10 am
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I cannot be so forgiving. If I was to be perfectly okay with sprite swapping just for the sake of making a character that means I'd have to be perfectly okay with tracing art and claiming it a new picture.
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


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If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.
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#45  September 12, 2009, 06:24:47 am
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I cannot be so forgiving. If I was to be perfectly okay with sprite swapping just for the sake of making a character that means I'd have to be perfectly okay with tracing art and claiming it a new picture.

Well, it's not so much that I'm okay with it, it's really that there's no real reason for me to get upset about it. There's no point, and whether I "forgive" the guy or not doesn't mean anything in the long run. That's why I don't get so upset when people "steal" my work or edit my characters or anything. It's not worth it. I used to get upset but I learned to not care. The only reason I keep mentioning that "at least he made something" is because of certain people who don't contribute anything being a complete ass about stolen work. It just seems backwards to me that Input is all up in arms when he doesn't make anything, yet established creators, mods, and the author whose work was used aren't even that mad, you know?
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Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#46  September 12, 2009, 07:35:21 am
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I don't give a shit that its stolen.  The fact that that horrible creations like this are tolerated is what bothers me.  I like mugen but I hate having to wade through so much garbage just to find the few good creations.
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#47  September 12, 2009, 07:37:39 am
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I see where you're coming from.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying *you* should be angrier at him. I'm saying that I, personally, cannot be so forgiving at shameless art theft, and what happened here is similar to that.

The fact that he basically used the "it's my first so it's crap" excuse doesn't help. Do what you can, not just do anything, release it, and expect kid gloves, at least not here. If there's no passion then why make characters for the sake of characters?

And that's why I never released my P.Dizzy.


I don't give a shit that its stolen.  The fact that that horrible creations like this are tolerated is what bothers me.  I like mugen but I hate having to wade through so much garbage just to find the few good creations.

Doesn't apply here, unless you hated SeanAlty's Solid Snake.
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


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If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.
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#48  September 12, 2009, 08:53:36 am
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I don't give a shit that its stolen.  The fact that that horrible creations like this are tolerated is what bothers me.  I like mugen but I hate having to wade through so much garbage just to find the few good creations.

Tolerated? What are we supposed to do? Tell his mom and take away his internets? Oh wait, I know what we're supposed to do, call him names and drop classic lines like "I'm creative every time I use the toilet." That'll do the trick.

News Flash: This is supposed to be a community. Community's are about support, and in a community revolving around what boils down to fan art, being constructive is a lot more helpful than calling someone stupid or telling them their creations are garbage. Getting bent out of shape because someone offended you with their bad character that they apparently forced you to download is a waste of time and effort. What would be more fruitful would be to take that person and encourage them to learn the rules, get familiar with the program and perhaps create something worthwhile down the line. Just throwing that out there. If you're so tired of wading through all the "garbage" to find good stuff, why don't you make something yourself.
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#49  September 12, 2009, 09:19:40 am
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^ Good post, SeanAltly.

Holy hell the first and second page almost made me vomit. I swear, some of you "Mugen Guild veterans" are true assholes. "InputInterface" is at the top of the list.
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#50  September 12, 2009, 09:42:49 am
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Very well said. Its the nasty attitude that some members of this forum have that stops people even trying.

My characters and stages are amongst the most mediocre in the entire community. I wouldn't bother releasing them here or even mentioning them because I know how tearful people like InputInterface would get.

It might just be a straight spriteswap, but they are all custom sprites, crappy as they may be, and that means something to me. It puts him in the class of "creator of the future". What he has made for us isn't the prettiest character, but if his spriting improves (a lot), and he learns how to code, he could go far.

Unlike InputInterface who I guess would even have trouble creating a new palette for an existing character.
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#51  September 12, 2009, 02:11:38 pm
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#53  September 13, 2009, 02:33:30 am
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It might just be a straight spriteswap, but they are all custom sprites, crappy as they may be, and that means something to me. It puts him in the class of "creator of the future". What he has made for us isn't the prettiest character, but if his spriting improves (a lot), and he learns how to code, he could go far.
And at least he tried,to sprite swap so many sprites isnt that easy, it means he at least made some valid effort, it was a dud, but he can always try again and improve. We cant just bash whoever comes at us without diamonds. People need to feel comfortable enough to eventually learn stuff.Would any of you put effort into a community that the first time you put some effort into it, bashes you away ridicularizing everything you attempted?

Theres no reason to fight here, people have a right to be newbies, for all that matters his "first char" might be better than many others "first chars" Ive seen.

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Now that you tried a sprite swap, try something different, try something harder, people will help you along the way if needed.
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#54  September 13, 2009, 04:45:04 am
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I don't give a shit that its stolen.  The fact that that horrible creations like this are tolerated is what bothers me.  I like mugen but I hate having to wade through so much garbage just to find the few good creations.

Tolerated? What are we supposed to do? Tell his mom and take away his internets? Oh wait, I know what we're supposed to do, call him names and drop classic lines like "I'm creative every time I use the toilet." That'll do the trick.

How about some moderation?  This thread keeps getting worse and worse right in front of the mods and they aren't doing anything.  Is this sprite swap a legitimate release?  If not then why is it still here in one of the releases forums?  Why aren't all the non-constructive posts deleted and the thread moved to the projects forum so this guy can get the help you guys are so eager to give?

And if you say I can't criticize this because I'm not a creator then that's fine but I think my replies are pretty close in content to the first few in the thread, several of which were made by people with CONTRIBUTOR under their name.  Hell a couple of them even bluntly said this isn't even a creation and nobody even tried to challenge that.
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#55  September 13, 2009, 06:03:40 am
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Im going to ignore the whole fuss.
Heres what i didnt like . - no credit to original creation or even mentioning it.
Palettes - in some frames i could see weird light green colors popping out.
Anatomy - shape of his body changes with every move.
No details.
Skin color.
No shading.
You could use at least right body proportions.


Im going to assume that the person who made him is much younger than ppl replying.so  ill say i did notice imput.
Details that he applied do repeat.(belts etc)
He even manage to apply some sort of face expressions .
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#56  September 13, 2009, 01:33:51 pm
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I don't give a shit that its stolen.  The fact that that horrible creations like this are tolerated is what bothers me.  I like mugen but I hate having to wade through so much garbage just to find the few good creations.

Tolerated? What are we supposed to do? Tell his mom and take away his internets? Oh wait, I know what we're supposed to do, call him names and drop classic lines like "I'm creative every time I use the toilet." That'll do the trick.

How about some moderation?  This thread keeps getting worse and worse right in front of the mods and they aren't doing anything.  Is this sprite swap a legitimate release?  If not then why is it still here in one of the releases forums?  Why aren't all the non-constructive posts deleted and the thread moved to the projects forum so this guy can get the help you guys are so eager to give?

And if you say I can't criticize this because I'm not a creator then that's fine but I think my replies are pretty close in content to the first few in the thread, several of which were made by people with CONTRIBUTOR under their name.  Hell a couple of them even bluntly said this isn't even a creation and nobody even tried to challenge that.
If you look at my track record youd know that old habbits are hard to break, but your just throwing insult after insult out, others were just commenting on how it was a spriteswap, so no your not acting like anyone here (except maybe wild tengu)

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Re: Leon S. Kennedy
#57  September 13, 2009, 10:56:20 pm
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if i just
give kung fu man
a sword and give him new moves

can you expect this as a 'new character" ?
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#58  September 13, 2009, 11:14:49 pm
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Yes, that would do the trick.

KFM is open-source, you can do whatever you want with him.
If you add new moves, that will help you learn how to code things, and that's a good start for future good creations. ;)
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if i just
give kung fu man
a sword and give him new moves

can you expect this as a 'new character" ?
Awww dude, dont feel bad. I know your next character will be better than the first. You learned that sprite-swapping is bad unless you have the original creator's permission to do so. By that time, hopefully some people can learn some manners and learn how to properly give uplifting feedback.
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How about some moderation?  This thread keeps getting worse and worse right in front of the mods and they aren't doing anything.  Is this sprite swap a legitimate release?  If not then why is it still here in one of the releases forums?  Why aren't all the non-constructive posts deleted and the thread moved to the projects forum so this guy can get the help you guys are so eager to give?

I find this particularly hilarious and I am glad I am not staff anymore.