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Hero

Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#1 May 23, 2011, 10:15:03 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hi.

Mai is now officialy released. Also Iori was updated with the post of the previous thread. God Rugal need a bit of tweaking but I'm sure will be updated very soon.

So, here they are: http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/index.php

Also, Gekka botan (Mai'2 lvl.3 super) isn't developed to be accurate to her SNK incarnation

Comments!

EDIT:

You may want to know the changes on Mai:

Most of basics were updated. Now links are working properly, and priorities were added.
Throws gets more startup and recovery time, also, kick throws does have more startup (cause does more damage).
Wall jump no longer have dust.
Rolls aren't full invincible anymore.
Hana Arashi last hit's clsn size was increased, to avoid missing hit.
Added the duoRanger palette. Missed it before.

Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 11:59:27 pm by Hero

GaidenRion

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#2 May 23, 2011, 11:35:12 pm

Hi Hero
Does this Mai have good AI? Cause all the other Mai's ive tried had very bad AI.

Jesuszilla

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#3 May 23, 2011, 11:37:44 pm

I'm a fuffy.
Online

FUCK AI

http://www.trinitymugen.net
It must be really awful being so ridiculous.
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Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#4 May 23, 2011, 11:38:03 pm

Yeah... I'm done.

It has the best AI, it perfected Cannon Musume's Master Geese twice.

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#5 May 23, 2011, 11:50:04 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lol

Duos

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#6 May 24, 2011, 12:04:57 am

Online

Your Iori is still missing an entire shade of color on his shoes.

Left is yours, the right is CVS Iori.

It's not a palette issue either, all of your palettes have that shade missing.

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#7 May 24, 2011, 12:09:13 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I already noticed that (Crazy Koopa pointed that before). Was a error while color separating Iori's shoes. But, anyway, who really cares about one shade in the shoes? Better pay attention to gameplay, pal.

Duos

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#8 May 24, 2011, 12:15:34 am

Online

Yeah who cares about sprites looking how they should.

And it's not like you pay attention to any of the feedback unless I get other people to post it for me, so don't even go there you fucking hypocrite.

Bastard Walt

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#9 May 24, 2011, 12:21:11 am

ALE ALEJANDRO

The whole point of color sepparation is improving the sprites, not making them suffer color loss

That's a no no, Señor Héroe

"We live in a world of perpetual outrage"

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#10 May 24, 2011, 01:49:58 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm unlocking this topic. MC2, if you want to say something to me not related to Mai or Iori, please do it via PM. I don't have time for Mugen drama. Really.

About the shade missing in Iori's shoes, I'll state this:

I really don't have time to waste +6 hours (and then 6+ to Orochi Iori) just for a shade almost unnoticeable in the game. I know it shouldn't not be cause Iori does have 5 colors in his shoe and not 4. But, firstly, I'm really paying more attention to gameplay issues (both Iori and Mai). Was a mistake. I don't have time to fix it, at least, in the short time. Not even by now. I have a busy agenda. I have a test tomorrow, I have homework to upload before the 11 o'clock, my GF's birthday is today, I'm going to enter to the test's period. I don't have time. Really.

I know, you may want a perfect character, but anyway, I create what I want, how I want, when I want. If I take feedback, it's cause I want to implement it, when it's reasonable to me and my standards.

So, then, if you want to comment something not much related to that, welcome.

Basara Dandy

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#11 May 24, 2011, 02:22:27 am

Space Dandy wa uchuu wa Dandy de-aru

You've to fix Iori's shoes

Nah, seriously, in general it's a big improvement comparing to your old version, keep working man

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Koldskool

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#12 May 24, 2011, 02:53:58 am

Xtreme Makeover

Jesuszilla said, May 23, 2011, 11:37:44 pm

FUCK AI

???

But seriously, I havn't found anything wrong with either character, but I couldn't test them much due to having to leave for work in a bit.

ShadowArm

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#13 May 24, 2011, 03:32:54 am

Long Forgotten and Hateable Asshole

nah she has a decent ai(minus mah pallete u bitch)

anyway i've found 1 bug, her animations sometimes stuck in some attacks during Ex-Mode when i was fighting against her

Bastard Mami

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#14 May 24, 2011, 03:45:23 am

Hero said, May 24, 2011, 01:49:58 am

I'm unlocking this topic. MC2, if you want to say something to me not related to Mai or Iori, please do it via PM. I don't have time for Mugen drama. Really.

About the shade missing in Iori's shoes, I'll state this:

I really don't have time to waste +6 hours (and then 6+ to Orochi Iori) just for a shade almost unnoticeable in the game. I know it shouldn't not be cause Iori does have 5 colors in his shoe and not 4. But, firstly, I'm really paying more attention to gameplay issues (both Iori and Mai). Was a mistake. I don't have time to fix it, at least, in the short time. Not even by now. I have a busy agenda. I have a test tomorrow, I have homework to upload before the 11 o'clock, my GF's birthday is today, I'm going to enter to the test's period. I don't have time. Really.

I know, you may want a perfect character, but anyway, I create what I want, how I want, when I want. If I take feedback, it's cause I want to implement it, when it's reasonable to me and my standards.

So, then, if you want to comment something not much related to that, welcome.

lol 12 hours, tha'ts like a 5 minutes fix, probably more if the scripts/programs take longer to run.

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#15 May 24, 2011, 03:47:02 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah right...

The Pretty Boy

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#16 May 24, 2011, 04:38:19 am

Winning. <3

It is pretty stupid for someone to argue about something as insignificant as SHOES. LOL wow.

Love being a Raider

C.v.s The Abstract

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#17 May 24, 2011, 04:40:27 am

Legend now but still learning

I really Enjoy Hero Creation sense first came to mugen,You came along way bro

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Bastard Mami

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#18 May 24, 2011, 04:41:43 am

The Pretty Boy said, May 24, 2011, 04:38:19 am

It is pretty stupid for someone to argue about something as insignificant as SHOES. LOL wow.

yeah, wtf dude, liek , totally rad ! that's why I enver offered myself ot help, just to see how far will the argument go.

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#19 May 24, 2011, 05:05:36 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Actually [E] told me about a method that can save a LOT of time doing the fix... but don't count with it too soon.

Shwa

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#20 May 24, 2011, 05:46:47 am

Put 'er there.
y u free doe

That is [E].
You should probably do it, as the sooner you take care of it, the less stuff you'll have to take care of afterwards. :3

地獄の花

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#21 May 24, 2011, 06:41:23 am

Hero said, May 24, 2011, 05:05:36 am

Actually [E] told me about a method that can save a LOT of time doing the fix... but don't count with it too soon.

take your time , i know your hands are full with mai now and other less important things irl. focus on the coding first and if you can persuade other people to do shading for you.

people it seems we are making such a big fuss about iori's shoes remember... mai's BOOBS are more important than some emo guy's shoes.

Lasombra Demon

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#22 May 24, 2011, 06:54:28 am

WIP: SF4 CE

The Pretty Boy said, May 24, 2011, 04:38:19 am

It is pretty stupid for someone to argue about something as insignificant as SHOES. LOL wow.

Yeah, tell that to my mom, to my ex, and to pretty much every woman I've known. Geesh.

benimarucollider

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#23 May 24, 2011, 06:50:26 pm

NICE job fixing Iori, and once again, you've seriously humbled yourself by calling this Mai a beta. The only thing I can say is even a little off is that the Hana Arashi move always fully connected if the first hit was successful in KOF. I know she's a custom/CvS-styled Mai, but that move was only in KOF, so its properties from that game should be respected. Basically, the hitbox on the last part of the move needs to be a little taller.

On a more general note, I suppose I could say that your grabs still need a little tweaking. A little more recovery time would make sense, as well as a little more startup on whichever grab is more damaging. The hard kick grabs in CvS2 actually took five frames to come out, since they were all more damaging than the hard punch grabs (except for Sagat's stupid knee kick hold which could easily be escaped before doing even as much damage as his actual throw).

*EDIT*

Sorry, your Mai has COMPLETELY invincible rolls. Like, you can't even grab her. I'm going to give you a little info on Hitby and Nothitby controllers: If you actually type in SCA as the first value for a Nothitby, it ignores any following parameters and just assumes you want EVERYTHING to not hit the character. In order to get a Nothitby to work properly with SCA as that value, you have to NOT put anything there except a comma. You have to do the exact opposite with Hitby controllers (always type in SCA if you want it, NEVER omit it), or THEY will assume you don't want ANYTHING to hit the character.

You should only be using Hitby controllers with Rolls/Dodges, anyway. Less coding. Just use SCA, AT as the value.

Actually, there is one more thing I should mention. Rolls in both KOF and CvS always had a fully vunerable period at the end. It should be at least 2 frames, if not more, so the trigger should be time = 0 and the time parameter should be at least 2 frames less than the duration of the animation.

Example:

[State 910, hb]
type=hitby
trigger1= time = 0
value=SCA,AT
time=24

Other than that, nice job. Keep up the good work.

"I'll change MY direction! Yeah." - Benimaru

Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 08:36:05 pm by benimarucollider

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#24 May 24, 2011, 08:22:05 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

About rolls, yeah, I forget to fix that issue (dunno why, it's very important and I don't remember why I forgot it o_o). In the 6º frame she does have 27 ticks (the real time of invincibility in cvs2), and 4 frames of recovery for the last one. So a total of 31 tick, she travels 113 pixels, cause in the last one, she don't move. Iori could have the same issue, I'll check.

In Hana Arashi I coul use a custom state for the "rising" movement, or a taller clsn1 would work. I'm adressing the throw suggestion too.

GOH

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#25 May 25, 2011, 01:23:26 am

Never give up your dreams. Go back to sleep.

This is too good to be a beta. And it comes with a bonus: boobs! D:

2 things. Mai can't dodge roll while running. I believe God Rugal had that issue too, and it's possible in CVS2 and I think KOF too.

Another thing, but this is a personal point though.

The sprite intro edit on the right doesn't look good IMO. I mean look at that hair and face.

Thanks for the release Hero, you've improved a lot. That custom combo bar is dope btw.

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#26 May 25, 2011, 02:10:29 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Adressed the first issue. If you want a quick fix by yourself, open the CMD, check for the changetstate "[State -1, Slide/Dodge]", and in the last line, where it says "ctrl" change by "var(6)". I fixed it already.

And the second... well, I don't see any specially wrong

, amybe I'll retouch some sprites by Dampir in the future.

The Pretty Boy

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#27 May 25, 2011, 03:14:13 am

Winning. <3

Lasombra Demon said, May 24, 2011, 06:54:28 am

The Pretty Boy said, May 24, 2011, 04:38:19 am
It is pretty stupid for someone to argue about something as insignificant as SHOES. LOL wow.
Yeah, tell that to my mom, to my ex, and to pretty much every woman I've known. Geesh.

Not for a bideo game XP

Love being a Raider

ShadowArm

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#28 May 25, 2011, 05:17:52 pm

Long Forgotten and Hateable Asshole

Captain Goh said, May 25, 2011, 01:23:26 am

This is too good to be a beta. And it comes with a bonus: boobs! D:

2 things. Mai can't dodge roll while running. I believe God Rugal had that issue too, and it's possible in CVS2 and I think KOF too.

Another thing, but this is a personal point though.

The sprite intro edit on the right doesn't look good IMO. I mean look at that hair and face.

Thanks for the release Hero, you've improved a lot. That custom combo bar is dope btw.

this one its just user her normal intro(maybe chun-li one too) as model, isn't hard do this

GOH

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#29 May 26, 2011, 12:38:56 am

Never give up your dreams. Go back to sleep.

Absolutely loved Iori btw. Shiki 306: Saika is so fucking hard to do. LOL. =P

2OS

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#30 May 26, 2011, 01:18:57 am

Ich schicke dich zur HOELLE ! ¡ ! ¡

Goh Belmont said, May 25, 2011, 01:23:26 am

The voice doesn't even remotely fit the right intro IMO.

Seeing how the left one already has it [ and is supposed to while the other one isn't ] it's a bit of a buzzkill.

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Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#31 May 26, 2011, 01:29:45 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's the real voice intro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IQctKhay04

3:00 minute. But still, you have some merit on your opinion.

2OS

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#32 May 26, 2011, 02:32:25 am

Ich schicke dich zur HOELLE ! ¡ ! ¡

I was recalling and referring to SVC, not KOF, I had forgot her voice plays there, it's been a while, lol.

But for when you select her in SVC, a sound is made where her cloth rustles and she's silent, better that way IMO, especially since her official CVS intro has the official voice set up for it.

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Jesuszilla

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#33 May 26, 2011, 03:45:06 am

I'm a fuffy.
Online

Ah, for the run and roll, you have two options:

1. How CvS does it: no change in velocity.
2. How KoF does it: increases the velocity (I forgot the exact value though)

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It must be really awful being so ridiculous.
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Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#34 May 26, 2011, 03:48:26 am

Complicated.cns
No, I've never played a Zelda game before, shut up

3+ on vel x (ONLY on forward roll).

pls

Hero

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#35 May 26, 2011, 09:28:09 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2OS said, May 26, 2011, 02:32:25 am

But for when you select her in SVC, a sound is made where her cloth rustles and she's silent.

What? In the select screen, Mai don't say anything, but that applies to Ryu, Kyo, Ken, and ALL characters...

Jesuszilla said, May 26, 2011, 03:45:06 am

Ah, for the run and roll, you have two options:

1. How CvS does it: no change in velocity.
2. How KoF does it: increases the velocity (I forgot the exact value though)

Thanks, I'll implement CvS I think

2OS

Re: Beta Mai / Updated Iori

#36 May 26, 2011, 09:46:31 pm

Ich schicke dich zur HOELLE ! ¡ ! ¡

I'm well aware, lol.

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Hero

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori

#37 May 29, 2011, 05:57:06 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bumping to say Mai was updated to Release. Check first post or readme to check updates. Iori will take longer, as well Orochi Iori. God Rugal should be updated very soon.

dec-1310

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori

#38 June 01, 2011, 06:55:19 pm

How about I slap yo shit onto the Dark Dimension?

Hero said, May 29, 2011, 05:57:06 am

Bumping to say Mai was updated to Release. Check first post or readme to check updates. Iori will take longer, as well Orochi Iori. God Rugal should be updated very soon.

I love it
I also really love your Iori! Definitely my favorite
Now I know the AI isn't important, and I really hate characters with ridiculously hard AI's, but your Iori's seems to have a problem, or I don't know if you did this on purpose, but basically he doesn't attack at all.
I don't care if his AI is good or not, but I would like it if he at least attacked you
Maybe removing that issue and leave it with no AI until you decide to do it will help?
Other than that, I love his effects, I love his attacks and everything, as well as all your characters!
Expecting an update for God Rugal too

Keep up the good work! You are my Hero!

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Hero

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#39 June 01, 2011, 11:59:55 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

God Rugal Updated. Fix most of the problems, if not all

Knuckles8864

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#40 June 02, 2011, 03:25:45 am

When Iori get's K.O.ed, if he is hit more than once, he will suddenly stop his death cry.

Also, the Cheap K.O. needs to be fixed (See PotS Shin Gouki's Misogi for more info)

Other than that, good release.

Will test Mai and God Rugal.

sdin1020

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#41 June 12, 2011, 06:19:27 pm

thanks your updating

rizki29

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#42 June 18, 2011, 04:11:11 pm

Come mighty warrior face me

cool downloading now

SNT

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#43 June 23, 2011, 08:43:51 am

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Does the new Iori... uh... not fight for anyone else? A computer player using him just seems to jump around, no attacks.

Hibernating.

ecthelionv2

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#44 June 23, 2011, 08:50:42 am

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SNT said, June 23, 2011, 08:43:51 am

Does the new Iori... uh... not fight for anyone else? A computer player using him just seems to jump around, no attacks.

He doesn't have AI for now.

I made this sig.

Props to a friend for my avvie

SNT

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#45 June 23, 2011, 08:59:24 am

Sodium Nonchalance Technician
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Well yeah, but even without proper AI, don't most characters still throw out the odd random attack?

Hibernating.

Cybaster

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#46 June 23, 2011, 11:51:26 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

It's because Hero probably activated the AI (Winane method or AILevel, dunno), but didn't actually code it. And since all his changestates are triggered by checking there's no AI, these changestates are never activated, and the character basically never attacks and can only do hard coded stuff such as walk, jump and block.

soniku

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#47 July 01, 2011, 10:32:57 pm

Hot Pods!!

Iori is good, but please make an ai for the next update. And also could you include his orochi state in the next update?

GOH

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#48 July 01, 2011, 11:05:39 pm

Never give up your dreams. Go back to sleep.

He's making a separate character for Orochi Iori.

soniku

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#49 July 02, 2011, 12:15:02 am

Hot Pods!!

oh, I see. Well do your best hero.

Knuckles8864

Re: Mai Released / Updated Iori and God Rugal

#50 July 20, 2011, 10:00:41 am

Speaking of Orochi Iori, how is his process, Hero?

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