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Ricepigeon

Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#1 June 22, 2011, 03:13:53 pm

Mega Klinklang confirmed

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2011/06/22/law-says-middle-class-eligible-for-medicaid.html?sid=101

Obama dun goofed

<<-- Updated 09/14/14

Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm

You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#2 June 23, 2011, 01:11:07 am

I read this as middle school class.

Duo Solo

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#3 June 23, 2011, 02:59:06 am

Barack Obama is a better president than Jimmy Carter.

chrono.st

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#4 June 23, 2011, 03:22:17 am

Most ****able 2013

He's no Taft though.

地獄の花

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#5 June 23, 2011, 05:13:00 am

he's no clit magnet clinton.

Hoshi

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#6 June 23, 2011, 06:18:18 am

Sprite Whore

Holy Shit.

Cybaster

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#7 June 23, 2011, 06:29:15 am

Limited time to use Infinite power !

Nice fuck up here ...
Let's see how this ends.

Tyrant Belial

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#8 June 23, 2011, 06:34:33 am

TEHUH NAYUME EZ HUWK KOO MAWUN

Ah beautiful American fuck-ups
They make me smile.

Harmony is harmony is harmony is not with us, harmony is not with us. Living hell is coming.

3DS FC: 0232 - 8852 - 3659

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#9 June 23, 2011, 07:16:11 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Hello peeps it was on purpose

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#10 June 23, 2011, 07:19:05 am

I don't want to have to pay for medicaid. I lost 125 on my last paycheck.

Cybaster

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#11 June 23, 2011, 07:24:58 am

Limited time to use Infinite power !

"Rich" (by rich, I mean people who are no poor) have to give a little to help the poorest, that's how it should work.
Well, of course, it has to be done fairly and not cause abuse, which is the hardest, but it's all for the best.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#12 June 23, 2011, 07:28:04 am

The system needs to be overhauled. I'm also not rich, I'm just getting out of being absurdly poor.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#13 June 23, 2011, 08:44:01 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Then you would be middle class, now you are getting your taxes back. Before you were giving it to someone else.

Of course, 194 is your total. A big chunk of that SS, which you will get back. The other the other $144 is almost completely split between medicaid and the military.

Lets see, health care or more bombs?

Keep in mind too that 194 is a very cheap price. Imagine if you had to pay a subscription fee to post offices, soldiers, government officials, maintaining roads, police, and firemen. If you opted for just one subscription to any of these, it would cost you more than 194 per check.

Next time you drive down the street, keep in mind that you are using millions sometimes billions of dollars of street, for $194 per check. That is a pretty good deal.

Most people who complain about taxes, are looking for a handout.

I mean, without you paying $194 and the politicians giving it away to subsidize food and oil, you couldn't even afford to drive to work.

I don't like paying taxes on things that I don't get the benefits of. Medicaid is one of those types of programs. That is why I always supported medicaid for all. That way everyone pays for it, and everyone uses it. Instead we have Medicaid for more than before and a mandate to have some sort of insurance. I guess that is an improvement, but I was hoping for more. I think the rich should be able to use medicaid too. I mean, they most likely wouldn't use it, because of lower quality.... But they should have that option.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#14 June 23, 2011, 09:09:41 am

I like it this way.
I don't use any of you stuff and I don't use any of theirs.
I don't own a car either.
it's not so much that I don't like taxes it's just I don't think I'll be using medicaid.
if I can't see my self using it I don't want you taking it out of my pay.
who pays for just in case

the other big scams are life insurance and bottled water.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#15 June 23, 2011, 07:45:04 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Fine if we can't use your stuff, you can't use our stores, sidewalks, phones, cell phones, electrical grid, or anything else that we provide you.

Hello... You wouldn't have any stuff, if it wasn't for taxes.

Unless you are some sort of 1650 farmer or something.

You can move ya know. There are lots of countries that hardly pay any taxes. They are easy to find. Just look at for the ones with the highest infant mortality rates and highest amount of poor people.

Why am I talking to you though, you last post proves that you are not even trying to understand. I said roads and oil and you acted like you don't use them. How does your stuff get to you again?

Like I said, everyone that complains about paying taxes are looking for a handout. They are almost as bad as the people who purposefully live on welfare.

Save your complaints about $194. Shit man, there are people on this forum that don't receive any of the benefits that you get just by living under our tax system and economy. They would happily pay $194 for a safe work environment, firemen, roads, food, and especially our oil prices. (Have you seen their oil prices, your "Stuff" is affordable because of our taxes)

Complaining about $194 when you are using billions of dollars every day makes you sound like a spoiled little rich fuck. If you don't like it, move.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#16 June 23, 2011, 11:03:54 pm

I don't give a shit about our oil prices.
I had to move all my stuff manually anyway. Plus if I need a ride I can pay for it even if it's at a higher cost.
That goes for utilities as well. Roads yeah I guess I do use those but they could be funded with out taxes.

You act like America is the only country out here when quite alot of people on these forums are not from here.
We don't have the same standards for living conditions. I guess you think the amish must be living third world too.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#17 June 24, 2011, 04:12:54 am

[E]

wha thte fuck are you even talking about riptide ?

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#18 June 24, 2011, 05:18:19 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

He doesn't know. I will try to translate though.

He doesn't give a shit about oil prices, because he thinks all that Chinese shit he owns flew here by carrier pigeon.

He thinks that he can afford to pay the higher cost, if we don't subsidize oil, yet he complains about $194. $10 a gallon must be cheap to him I guess.

He feels that he can pay the un-subsidized cost of his utilities. He must have billions laying around to build and maintain a power plant, or feels that businesses would charge him less to build one without tax payer money. He must also feel that they will be safer without government oversight.

He also wants businesses to build the roads for billions of dollars and then charge him a toll to walk or drive on them, even after they have recouped the cost. Because paying tolls forever is much cheaper than taxes to maintain the.

In short, I would say he read a Ron Paul book, but I don't think he is a big reader, so he listened to some radio program or news channel that is regurgitating and misquoting Ron Paul.

He also can't read, because he said I acted like the forum was only Americans or Estadounidense when I obviously told him to look at the gas prices that foreigners pay and told him to go to a country that doesn't have taxes. Chad and Darfur maybe don't, those are great places to live.

He also doesn't realize that most European countries have free healthcare and many have a higher health rating according to the UN.

He also brought up Amish people, who don't pay taxes unless they work in our society like Missbe does. Yet..... He doesn't join them, he just complains about our system. He wants the benefits of our taxes (Unlike the Amish) But he doesn't want to pay them. Like I said, hand out.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#19 June 24, 2011, 06:12:30 am

I never said I didn't want to be amish. I have no problem with living off of the land only.
I never said I wanted you godamed benefits from taxes, I don't give a shit were I live along as I can get what I need to live off of.
This there for invalidates your whole argument.

Cybaster

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#20 June 24, 2011, 07:08:42 am

Limited time to use Infinite power !

Riptide said, June 24, 2011, 06:12:30 am

I never said I wanted you godamed benefits from taxes

So I guess we should cut your internet and electricity, because as far as I know, you didn't pay for the installation of the cable or optic fibre, neither did you pay for the power plant.

And yeah, France has one of the best healthcare systems in the world. Thanks to that, I pay nothing of my 1700$ medication per month.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#21 June 24, 2011, 08:11:16 am

Well yeah if I went Amish. I figure I'll move toward self sufficiency slowly and see if I'm good at living that way.
See I wanted to go to southern California and live in a big city but now I'm in a small town that's next to some mountains.
I'm starting to think fuck cali I'll go to Montana.

momo!

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#22 June 24, 2011, 08:31:06 am

TYRANNOSAURUS

I think Riptides saying he'd be happy to pay for private roads(such as toll roads) or private electric providers, etc.(such as buying a personal generator I guess). What he's saying is he'd rather buy EVERYTHING ZOMG from private businesses rather than pay taxes for huge public services, not realizing the high cost and the essential problems this would cause, as Shamrock pointed out.

-Red-

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#23 June 24, 2011, 08:38:40 am

Complicated.cns
No, I've never played a Zelda game before, shut up

I want everything to be free

pls

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#24 June 24, 2011, 08:52:33 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Free? You communist bastard.

I see now that riptide wants to live off the land. Good luck to you. I recommend hunting and gathering and not farming. Hunter gatherers have a 90 year life expectancy, non-industrial farmers is like 30-40 or something.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#25 June 25, 2011, 06:22:47 am

[E]

Riptide said, June 24, 2011, 06:12:30 am

I never said I didn't want to be amish. I have no problem with living off of the land only.
I never said I wanted you godamed benefits from taxes, I don't give a shit were I live along as I can get what I need to live off of.
This there for invalidates your whole argument.

words don't invalidate nothing, words amount to shit, actions speak.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#26 June 25, 2011, 06:49:34 am

all we are doing is talking in the first place.
you would not know if I ever when this rough in the first place i don't see why you made that useless comment
on a stupid argument.
there are so many things I want to say right now about this derailment but I will say people sure do like to take things to the extreme and put words in your mouth.

I understand you not. You seem to be attacking self sufficiency which is completely logical. do you like paying an arm and a leg for things you can produce your self. I would assume you are a consumer or are in an consumer culture. I asume that they are not many producing based jobs near where you live. I will also assume that you are white coral and that everyone around you is as well and that you like to buy designer brans as opposed an item of equal quality at a lower price.

You do not value hand made items or understand the pleasure of leaning to fix something your self.
Why, because the consumer culture around you has modeled you into believing that you need this new electric device
because it's the modern age and everyone else has one.
To be modern is to be superior to what was is old or what is from nature.
This is because our current human culture is all about progression to the point of destroying them self. they are only looking At their wants and forget that they share the planet with millions or other species. Of course we are superior to them
we rule the planet. However we are doing a really bad job as we throw the ecosystem out of balance by overpopulation through our cultivation of edible plants.
We forget that we are animals too and and are built from the same stuff as the other creatures we look down upon.
sometimes it's best to take a step back and look at our selves for what we really are. I think it's easier to do this is you reject societies collective psychosocial slant by taking the time to do some things in a more primitive way.

by the way don't start shit with me when I'm sleepy or I will fuck with your mind.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#27 June 25, 2011, 04:20:39 pm

[E]

that's a bunch of stupid stuff ?

why would you pay 20 dollars to a plumber to fix your sink when you can do it for free, except that you will spend the whole fucking afternoon at it (4+hours) and you normally get paid 10 an hour thus it will cost you twice, that assuming you won't fuck up tehplumbing which you will most likely, thus having to spend twice or more teh amount of money on material for sink fixing.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#28 June 25, 2011, 07:43:54 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

He trying to go off the original complaint of taxes in order to "Blow your mind"

He acts as if there are no taxes in farming, Amish communities, or hunter gatherer communities.

Instead of $194 dollars you will have to work for a week or a month or a year on construction, or a farm, or at least bring back the food to the others. That too is a tax free labor. Your retarded comment about "I keep mine and you keep yours" in those kind of communities would get you banished. You are a lucky fucker, because you are born in this tax based society where we can't kick you the fuck out.

He also acts like these communities are free of wrecking the ecosystem, when farmers are the number one killer of the environment. They have done worse than even nuclear disasters. They may only be beat by paper mills that use the rain forest.

Blow our minds? You should just blow us instead.

Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#29 June 25, 2011, 07:50:30 pm

No.

Are you talking about Obama? I cant tell due to how pretentious your posts are.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#30 June 25, 2011, 07:57:55 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

How is this for pretentious?

I can read.

You should read the rest of the thread and you will know who I was talking about.

Pretentious my ass. Riptide continually admits to not reading the news and shit and states that nothing ever concerns him. If you find these simple facts I am stating pretentious, then you too have an issue. By your definition of pretentious, anyone who corrects a moron is pretentious.

Next time you use that word, make sure that you are not calling yourself an idiot and are calling the other person pretentious. "Pretentious" is a dangerous word if not used correctly. Kinda like saying certain words are "Big words" If a guy says, "usher? that sure is a big word" Then you know he is a idiot.

Last Edit: June 25, 2011, 08:01:32 pm by Shamrock

Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#31 June 25, 2011, 08:10:56 pm

No.

Im sorry for my poor skills in english.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#32 June 25, 2011, 09:42:29 pm

I'm a fuffy.

in b4 "THEN DON'T STEP INTO THE ARGUMENT ARRHSRHAERHAHSASHRHARHHAHRARARGAHRRGHG

"

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MissB

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#33 June 25, 2011, 10:37:29 pm

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

I feel like I should be arguing about something in this thread.

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#34 June 25, 2011, 10:44:49 pm

[E]

we can argue about the fact that your cock makes me uncomfortable.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#35 June 25, 2011, 11:33:31 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#36 June 25, 2011, 11:44:30 pm

I'm a fuffy.

LOL

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Rote Zaungast

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#37 June 25, 2011, 11:53:38 pm

lmao

"I’m never gonna grab anything by its balls, especially life. especially if life shows up in the incarnation where it would have testicles. if life showed up and had balls, the last thing I would do is grab those balls" - kyle kinane

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#38 June 26, 2011, 05:34:33 am

[E]

Shamrock said, June 25, 2011, 11:33:31 pm

sauce

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#39 June 26, 2011, 06:03:03 am

lolmechy said, June 25, 2011, 07:50:30 pm

Are you talking about Obama? I cant tell due to how pretentious your posts are.

No he is not. he's not talking about obama.
he is accusing me of being the hand me this hand me that type.
I was joking in my last post this one I'm not.

pretentious isn't the proper word in this context anyhow.

I’m mad about the taxes because I’m paying for something I’m not using currently and may never use.
Sure road tax is a good thing but not when the state could do the job at a lower price.

Let me tell you something shamrock. Employees at the Denver mint get played a whole lot more than I do to do a lot less. And they retire with their full fucking salary. Now the mint might not take tax money I don’t think they do but the government pays well. Very well in most of their departments. Most of my family is government so I know second hand if not first. I could go work at the mint too and sit on my ass doing little work. It’s a cool ass job but, I’d rather stay in collage so I can be a biochemist. I’m working construction on the weekends so I can pay back the school and the government for my financial aid.

Yeah I know there are other opportunities; hell ROTC is here and the military will help me out with tuition but I would not join the military for their benefits. I would join if the country needed to defend itself from a serious attack or if I just wanted to kill people. I think the army is getting soft anyway. I hate that advertisement for putting greens at their basses in Afghanistan.
But I digress I need the money to pay for collage something you wouldn’t know about even if you went, I’m thinking you don’t half to pay.
And you talk about wanting benefits like it’s a bad thing.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#40 June 26, 2011, 07:07:27 am

[E]

you contradict yourself everyother phrase so it's hard to follow you. not that it matter because you attack yourself anyway.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#41 June 26, 2011, 07:17:28 am

you're not making any sense; how am I attaching my self. You know what I'm not replying to you. At least shamrock makes enough sense that I can argue against him.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#42 June 26, 2011, 08:00:37 am

[E]

you say some shit, then you take that back, you say you want benefits then you say you don't want to pay for them. youa re just a kid trying to talk with adults, of course the adutl world does not make sense to you.

MissB

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#43 June 26, 2011, 12:47:21 pm

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Riptide said, June 26, 2011, 06:03:03 am

It’s a cool ass job but, I’d rather stay in collage so I can be a biochemist. I’m working construction on the weekends so I can pay back the school and the government for my financial aid.

But I digress I need the money to pay for collage something you wouldn’t know about even if you went, I’m thinking you don’t half to pay.

Did you attend public school grades K - 12? I'm going to guess yes based on your posts.

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#44 June 26, 2011, 05:30:44 pm

[E]

wait, the dumbfuck was implying that I did not go to collAge ? everybody goes to collAge !

Spawn

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#45 June 26, 2011, 05:37:02 pm

The King.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#46 June 26, 2011, 11:14:05 pm

Satou Sei~ said, June 26, 2011, 05:30:44 pm

wait, the dumbfuck was implying that I did not go to collAge ? everybody goes to collAge !

the whole damed post wasn't even directed at you. Fuck I hate talking to you.

@MissBHaven, Yeah I went to school. I want to give back to the school system I came from if I make a bunch of money. That's a whole nother topic.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#47 June 26, 2011, 11:24:44 pm

I'm a fuffy.

Spoiler: Because nobody wants to see it again, I will be nice. (click to see content)

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Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#48 June 26, 2011, 11:28:10 pm

I'm not mad I'm irritated by a certain member who can't read.

Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#49 June 27, 2011, 12:01:26 am

No.

No need to get sand in your vagina over something like that

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Jesuszilla

There's a macro for that too

#50 June 27, 2011, 12:09:38 am

I'm a fuffy.

Riptide said, June 26, 2011, 11:28:10 pm

I'm not mad I'm irritated by a certain member who can't read.

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Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#51 June 27, 2011, 12:12:14 am

yeah, I'm going to calm down now.

that's a cute cat and I don't even like cats.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#52 June 27, 2011, 12:17:49 am

[E]

you won't calm down, you are too dumb to calm down. if you want to adress a specific person in a public forum do it explicitly, (get a dictionary to read what that means, I can wait).

Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#53 June 27, 2011, 12:20:50 am

No.

Btw Jesuszilla can you please stop using image macros? I know you are trying to be "ironic" with them but they are still really stupid.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#54 June 27, 2011, 12:22:02 am

I'm a fuffy.

I didn't want to but he set himself up too perfectly for that one. I couldn't help it.

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Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#55 June 27, 2011, 12:22:43 am

No.

Well alright.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Titiln

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#56 June 27, 2011, 12:23:38 am

lolmechy said, June 27, 2011, 12:20:50 am

Btw Jesuszilla can you please stop using image macros? I know you are trying to be "ironic" with them but they are still really stupid.

yes also there's no excuse for posting image macros you monster

fanfictionimg | badgame!

MissB

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#57 June 27, 2011, 12:30:04 am

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Riptide said, June 26, 2011, 11:14:05 pm

Satou Sei~ said, June 26, 2011, 05:30:44 pm
wait, the dumbfuck was implying that I did not go to collAge ? everybody goes to collAge !

the whole damed post wasn't even directed at you. Fuck I hate talking to you.

@MissBHaven, Yeah I went to school. I want to give back to the school system I came from if I make a bunch of money. That's a whole nother topic.

Do you know how public schools are funded?

I'm also guessing that you are in college now? That you were born in the USA and English is your first language? I am by no means a spelling nazi, I make my share of mistakes and typos and I often have (not "half" to, HAVE to) to use a spell checker of some kind. But I really do have to wonder what kind of education you got and how you managed to be accepted into any kind of undergraduate program when you can't even spell college. Your sentence structure, syntax and verb tense are all awkward. You tend to write in sentence fragments and leave out words or misuse words in a way that confuse people who's first language is English, let alone the foreign ones who learned the proper way to spell and write English (and trust me on this... what you are writing is NOT proper English). You obviously aren't stupid but your writing skills REALLY need work and if you turn in papers that read the way your posts do, you won't last long in college.

So before you go accusing someone of not being able to read, maybe you should make sure that your writing is clearly understandable. Even by the idiots in this thread.

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#58 June 27, 2011, 12:33:35 am

I'm a fuffy.

Holy shit who the fuck hacked your account and started posting for real.

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Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#59 June 27, 2011, 12:34:01 am

[E]

MissBHaven said, June 27, 2011, 12:30:04 am

Do you know how public schools are funded?

I'm also guessing that you are in college now? That you were born in the USA and English is your first language? I am by no means a spelling nazi, I make my share of mistakes and typos and I often have (not "half" to, HAVE to) to use a spell checker of some kind. But I really do have to wonder what kind of education you got and how you managed to be accepted into any kind of undergraduate program when you can't even spell college. Your sentence structure, syntax and verb tense are all awkward. You tend to write in sentence fragments and leave out words or misuse words in a way that confuse people who's first language is English, let alone the foreign ones who learned the proper way to spell and write English (and trust me on this... what you are writing is NOT proper English). You obviously aren't stupid but your writing skills REALLY need work and if you turn in papers that read the way your posts do, you won't last long in college.

So before you go accusing someone of not being able to read, maybe you should make sure that your writing is clearly understandable. Even by the idiots in this thread.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#60 June 27, 2011, 12:36:19 am

Complicated.cns
No, I've never played a Zelda game before, shut up

THANK YOU!

I couldn't say it better. I often don't try to go gramman nazi on people around here because I think they write in some kind of slang I dont know (Points at Nero) but to be honest I dont get half of the stuff she says the whole time (And this is even true in posts that are as short as 2 lines aswell).

pls

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#61 June 27, 2011, 12:39:14 am

Guys.

He is american.

MissB

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#62 June 27, 2011, 12:41:11 am

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Jesuszilla said, June 27, 2011, 12:33:35 am

Holy shit who the fuck hacked your account and started posting for real.

I had to look up the spelling for 4 words and I'm not telling you which 4.

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#63 June 27, 2011, 01:57:06 am

my whole issue is that Satou Sei~ thought I was talking to him though I clearly said Shamrock in my post. That is what pissed me off because he's done that kind of thing before.

yeah I know my style of writing is awkward, I used to be the stormex. I'm going to be talking writing compositions this fall.

I got excepted to college based on my science and reading scores. I got a 31 in reading on my ACT test. My writing was around
21 if I can remember right. MissBHaven since you are in Ohio I'm going to assume you know enough about the ACT. Since that part of the country takes ACT over SAT test. Though I did stupidly take some SAT subject test cause I though I needed them.

I'm going to say something outrageous: In high school and in collage I seem to do better in based history classes than math which is a subject I like.

yeah I know everyone thinks I'm stupid cause my grammar and spelling is hit and miss and I have some strange beliefs of how the world works. I like to view things from the outside like an alien. Sometimes I become too self aware (no that's not how I mean it.) Not as in aware of my self and all my actions. But aware is in what it is to be human and how far we've come.
Science and biology has corrupted my mind; I've come to believe in utilitarianism.

Iced

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#64 June 27, 2011, 02:08:35 am

does this look like the face of mercy?

how can an utilitarian be against paying taxes.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#65 June 27, 2011, 02:09:01 am

[E]

I don't think you are stupid.

on all the mass of words that you write, I can't make up what you think about taxes currently, did you change your viewpoint or something ?

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#66 June 27, 2011, 02:30:55 am

I'm a fuffy.

Riptide said, June 27, 2011, 01:57:06 am

I got excepted to college based on my science and reading scores. I got a 31 in reading on my ACT test. My writing was around

I sure hope you were excepted due to your English skills....

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#67 June 27, 2011, 02:36:06 am

Iced said, June 27, 2011, 02:08:35 am

how can an utilitarian be against paying taxes.

Because its combined with rational egoism as I'm slightly solipsistic ( it took me a bit to find that term)

Iced

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#68 June 27, 2011, 02:44:32 am

does this look like the face of mercy?

Only everything inside your mind is known to be real and things from outside cant be verified as true? How the fuck does that work with utilitarianism? That doesnt make sense. Your whole attempt of explaining yourself doesnt make a lick of sense. its like you are picking words that sound good and applying them randomly.

"Oh I believe that the best choice is the one that benefits most people, not the one that is most moral, im also a firm believer that im more important than others, im also a firm believer that only I exist, so the most people that will benefit are not factors, so Im a firm believer that the best choice is the one that benefits the only person I know is real, that would be me."

If you posted all that crap just to say "I dont want to pay taxes because i shouldnt have to and I dont care about anyone else but me" you might as well have just said that.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#69 June 27, 2011, 02:45:58 am

Fuck You.

down boy down

i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...

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Iced

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#70 June 27, 2011, 02:47:27 am

does this look like the face of mercy?

Dont make me stab you.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#71 June 27, 2011, 02:48:29 am

Fuck You.

you dont have the guts

i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#72 June 27, 2011, 02:51:23 am

[E]

he does, he's fat.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#73 June 27, 2011, 02:51:40 am

No I do care about people. I can be altruistic at times even. Solipsism is an evil that my subconscious , no more likely my ID in Freud's trio cooks up. I only give into it when I'm asleep, drunk or really really sleep deprived.

I just don't want to pay some taxes because I think the system would take less money of it had an overhaul to make it more efficient. The efficiency issue is where the utilitarianism comes in.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#74 June 27, 2011, 02:52:48 am

I'm a fuffy.

You drink, you post. You get a PUI.

Like I am doing right now.

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#75 June 27, 2011, 03:04:13 am

does this look like the face of mercy?

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No I do care about people. I can be altruistic at times even.

like most people? what does this even matter

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Solipsism is an evil that my subconscious , no more likely my ID in Freud's trio cooks up.

<== doesnt make sense , are you saying your ID cooks up the doubt if other people are real? Thus your animal side instincts tell you that the other animals might be all in your head?

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I only give into it when I'm asleep, drunk or really really sleep deprived.

if so, why even bringing it up at all? When im really sleep deprived sometimes I think that there are monsters inside the walls , crawling their way out. I dont bring it up while im arguing taxes as a way to show that the taxes should be lowered, otherwise the monsters come out. Fucking Obama letting the monsters come out.

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I just don't want to pay some taxes because I think the system would take less money of it had an overhaul to make it more efficient. The efficiency issue is where the utilitarianism comes in.

utilitarianism is not about eficiency. But about choices. the choice that benefits the most are the ones that a utilitarian believes are the more correct, and not the most moral choice. Thus paying taxes would be a utilitarian tool. You are benefitting the whole of the population instead of yourself.

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#76 June 27, 2011, 03:15:25 am

Riptide said, June 27, 2011, 01:57:06 am

I got a 31 in reading on my ACT test. My writing was around
21 if I can remember right.

Slightly above the national average for reading, slightly below the national average for writing. How the fuck does that even work out?

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#77 June 27, 2011, 03:20:19 am

Utilitarianism is efficient. In order to befit the most people a plan should have maximum efficiency.
Try to think of a system that befits lots of people equally and check if it's efficient or not.
There is nothing that is useful that doesn't need upgrades that's not efficient.
Everything is about efficiency the whole planet operates this way. You're body is more efficient than a car and is also
utilitarian. Each cell works together to befit the whole animal which is the sum of it's cells.

@ Sho Aznable it likely has something to do with how I learned to read and write.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#78 June 27, 2011, 03:33:21 am

Sho Aznable said, June 27, 2011, 03:15:25 am

Riptide said, June 27, 2011, 01:57:06 am
I got a 31 in reading on my ACT test. My writing was around
21 if I can remember right.

Slightly above the national average for reading, slightly below the national average for writing. How the fuck does that even work out?

Every kind of test has a random element involved.

Jmorphman

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#79 June 27, 2011, 04:44:23 am

Q.E.D.

This thread took a weird turn, didn't it?

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#80 June 27, 2011, 05:15:35 am

Lasombra Demon is missing from this thread. I was hoping he would pop up.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#81 June 27, 2011, 05:17:22 am

I'm a fuffy.

oh now we're pulling the "trollin'" card

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#82 June 27, 2011, 05:24:20 am

I'm not trollin but he amuses me and this topic is right up his alley.

Nomechy

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#83 June 27, 2011, 09:54:13 am

No.

That whole "this amuses me" just kinda proves that you are having hard time with every post.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#84 June 27, 2011, 05:15:09 pm

[E]

I find it funny that Iced told SPOILER that his posts don't make sense to native (and non native) english speakers and what SPOILER did was get ahold of a thesaurus and post words (s)he does not even understand.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#85 June 27, 2011, 05:55:16 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

It has been a really long time since I seen someone bothered by E. I almost forgot what it looks like.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#86 June 27, 2011, 06:12:56 pm

ALE ALEJANDRO

^^-- I knew I couldn't have been the only one who noticed that.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#87 June 27, 2011, 09:27:21 pm

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Shamrock said, June 27, 2011, 05:55:16 pm

It has been a really long time since I seen someone bothered by E. I almost forgot what it looks like.

What is E? Besides slang for some club drug, and why is it bothering people?

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

GOH

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#88 June 27, 2011, 10:24:39 pm

Never give up your dreams. Go back to sleep.

Amuromorphman said, June 27, 2011, 04:44:23 am

This thread took a weird turn, didn't it?

You are now in the Twilight Zone.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#89 June 28, 2011, 01:00:05 am

all is love in fair and war

in a 3rd world country like ours, paying tax is like pouring water to the sea.

although I pay annual tax for car and the house, and automatically on top of every service I get from garage, in restaurant, or even over telephone, water, and electricity monthly bills.
I don't pay income tax, since I work as a freelancer and mostly get my payment from internet

because when I heard about some stupid issue on tv that our government gives budget of $2000+/month to every member of the board for what they call "intensive communication expenses" basically a budget to be spent on making phone calls for their whole family,
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TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta - Indonesian Forum for Budget Transparency (FITRA) believe their interpretation about the 'cash credit' members of parliament. Monitoring agency budgets is both interesting term "credit money" from the term "intensive communication costs" listed in the Entry List details of the budget (DIPA) House of Representatives.

In a press release in Cikini, today, Tuesday, May 17, 2011, FITRA convey the term "cost-intensive communications" contained in the council member allowances potentially multiple interpretations. The term "credit money" is interpreted FITRA, according to the institute is understandable. Because the pulse is part of the communication component that is understood by the public when communicating using a telephone or cellular phone.

"We recognize the term 'credit money' does not exist in the DIPA. But the term 'comparative studies' and 'plesiran' rather than a working visit was not disputed, "said National Secretary FITRA Yuna Farhan. "It's just arrogance that antikritik Parliament Secretariat General and perform the silencing of freedom of expression."

Yuna said, in income members of the House there are two items that are actually almost the same, namely, intensive communication allowance of Rp 14 million and cost absorption aspirations in order to improve the performance of communication intensive, which cost Rp 8.5 million. Both are given per month and received by each member of the council in the form of income.

"If it should be merged together. If not equal, would lead to double the budget or the budget duplication. There are two types of communication benefits in the form of activity, but its realization in the form of income, "said Yuna.

He also questioned the Secretary General of Parliament Saleh Nining Indra which was on fire responded to a press release FITRA. In fact, if the House objected, according to Law of the MPR, DPR, DPD and DPRD, which should send a letter is a line of leaders of the House.

Team members FITRA attorney, Priadi, indicated the Secretary General of the House really wanted to strike back FITRA because of criticisms that actually leveled to build the House. Therefore, he urged the ranks of House leadership should ask for clarification to the Secretary-General has made the budget items that indicated a problem. "House leaders should ask for clarification, and if necessary sanction for misleading the House by way of allocating the budget is bothering the public," he said.

Mahardika SATRIA HADI

or a budget for "workshop" which is literally a sight seeing & shopping tour for the whole department

and on the other hand looking at the state of some less important public roads in my town, or the frequent electricity break down we have, I really think tax money is generously spent but just not for the benefit of the people.

those number might sound ridiculously cheap for european or american, but I'm talking about a country where factory workers make apprx $100/month

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Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#90 June 28, 2011, 01:34:48 am

I'm not sure what the above people are talking about so I'll just comment on your post, navetsea.
Yeah is the government is spending taxes on the wrong stuff I would completely refuse to pay taxes.
I do wonder if my taxes go to the right places. Every place I live I see gratuitous road construction.

I swear some of the above people don't get my complaint and want to keep going on about unimportant things.
Like how I'm stating my opposition to the amount being taken out of my income. This whole topic is futile we will never be able to change our government completely to our liking. Hell we can't even get a 3rd part in office.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#91 June 28, 2011, 01:42:49 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Riptide. Look up his profile. Read the part that says location. Then look up that location. He would love to have the government services you are bitching about.

Edit: South East Asia. Look it up.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#92 June 28, 2011, 02:45:34 am

I know where he lives. Java right?

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#93 June 28, 2011, 03:07:25 am

[E]

Having lived in the usa for a year, reading usa'n complain about their goverment is liek watching a kid throw a tantrum in the videogame store because his parents did not buy him the 20 videogames he asked for and only got him 19.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#94 June 28, 2011, 03:30:47 am

You need to spend more time in the US then. there are some things that are fucking out of whack. Hell I think it might be nicer to live in the UK.

Bastard Mami

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#95 June 28, 2011, 04:17:02 am

[E]

and you need to spend more time in nicaragua to stop being a whinny little bitch.

Makkah

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#96 June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am

Humanity can be so much more

Satou Sei~ said, June 28, 2011, 03:07:25 am

Having lived in the usa for a year, reading usa'n complain about their goverment is liek watching a kid throw a tantrum in the videogame store because his parents did not buy him the 20 videogames he asked for and only got him 19.

+1

In the US I can actually see the tax money going toward something useful. When I move there in the next couple months I'll gladly pay whatever they ask. The roads are properly maintained, and emergency services are highly responsive.

I remember when I was in NJ in December and there was a snow storm that blocked roads n shit. People were complaining about the slow response to clean it up and I was like wtf, it's only been 2 days and that's a lot of ground to cover. I was amazed because here, they would have taken a week and a half to do something similar and that would have been considered quick.

Jesuszilla

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#97 June 28, 2011, 04:37:31 am

I'm a fuffy.

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am

The roads are properly maintained

In the fuckin' rich white CITIES. Rural areas can get fucked as far as the government's concerned.

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am

emergency services are highly responsive.

The fuck they are. You know how they say the pizza gets here faster than the cops? They're not lying.

You people who say you lived here for however long, [E], you lived in fucking Dallas. That's not how all of America is.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#98 June 28, 2011, 04:43:48 am

Humanity can be so much more

Jesuszilla said, June 28, 2011, 04:37:31 am

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
The roads are properly maintained
In the fuckin' rich white CITIES. Rural areas can get fucked as far as the government's concerned.

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
emergency services are highly responsive.
The fuck they are. You know how they say the pizza gets here faster than the cops? They're not lying.

You people who say you lived here for however long, [E], you lived in fucking Dallas. That's not how all of America is.

You know what the irony of it is though JZ? They're still a lot faster than we're I'm from so it seems much better from my perspective. When I heard my family in the US complaining about a couple potholes I laughed so hard because in JA there are potholes that you have to call a wrecker if you ever fall into one cause you aint driving out of it. It doesn't matter how big your vehicle is and those fuckers are always around a corner too. Tropical storms don't part your roads like the red sea either.

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#99 June 28, 2011, 04:45:08 am

a valid point however if we compare the worst and best city in the states with the worst and best city in nicaragua you are indeed a whiny little bitch.

edit: damn ninja posts, this is adressed at jesuzilla

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Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#100 June 28, 2011, 04:54:31 am

[E]

Jesuszilla said, June 28, 2011, 04:37:31 am

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
The roads are properly maintained
In the fuckin' rich white CITIES. Rural areas can get fucked as far as the government's concerned.

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
emergency services are highly responsive.
The fuck they are. You know how they say the pizza gets here faster than the cops? They're not lying.

You people who say you lived here for however long, [E], you lived in fucking Dallas. That's not how all of America is.

it was not dallas but a suburb, and it's not liek I teleported there or did not go to other places either.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#101 June 28, 2011, 05:13:22 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

JZ and Riptide are also talking about places that have less taxes and not more. The reasons the roads are fucked up in bum-fuck-Ghetto is nobody pays taxes there and the reason no one has good services in bum-fuck-hilbillieland is because every time someone puts legislation through to raise taxes, people like Riptide bash it.

"You want to raise taxes by 3 cents a person to fix all the pot holes in our community? You fucking communist bastard!!!"

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#102 June 28, 2011, 05:16:45 am

Jesuszilla said, June 28, 2011, 04:37:31 am

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
The roads are properly maintained
In the fuckin' rich white CITIES. Rural areas can get fucked as far as the government's concerned.

Makkah said, June 28, 2011, 04:34:44 am
emergency services are highly responsive.
The fuck they are. You know how they say the pizza gets here faster than the cops? They're not lying.
You people who say you lived here for however long, [E], you lived in fucking Dallas. That's not how all of America is.

You're telling the truth. Where I used to live the rodes got redone in 2001 but the last time it was redone was in 1968 when the neighborhood was built.
Fuck it seems in the cities the road is redone ever 5 years. Emergency response time wasn't too bad. I wasn't in the ghetto
but still it might be better to drive.
you guys outside of the US don't really get what the complaints are.
mainly money not being put in the right areas. Don't you think the US should look more homogeneous. We as a rich country should not have areas that look nice next to areas that need to be torn down.

You know what shamrock fuck you. The ghetto pays taxes to and the money from rich areas are distributed in ghetto areas in the same district but they don't always get it. It's not always even.
Oh and the above neighborhood wasn't the fucking hood anyway those people had good jobs.

Also everybody know nicaragua is the second shittyist country in the west. They make Cuba look like Canada.

Last Edit: June 28, 2011, 05:22:40 am by Riptide

Duo Solo

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#103 June 28, 2011, 05:21:35 am

Oh Riptide, your posts always bring a smile to my face.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#104 June 28, 2011, 05:22:35 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Umm. Riptide... Your taxes are based on income. Many people don't pay taxes at all. There is this thing called a tax return. It is where they add up your tax breaks and how much you owe based on income. If you are poor, you get it all back.

So if they are in a ghetto, then in theory there are no tax payers because of their income. Most of the taxes they pay are the sales taxes, but because they are poor.... They buy less shit and again there is less taxes for the community.

It is called math.... please use it.

And I would never let you fuck me. Only people who pay taxes and don't bitch about get to fuck me.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#105 June 28, 2011, 05:25:26 am

they are in the ghetto because they do not make enough money but if you make over ( I think 6000 in a year) you have to pay income tax. people in the ghetto do make more than that. Also they do spend money on clothes and shit.

Still what of the ghettos in the same district as the rich areas?

-Red-

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#106 June 28, 2011, 05:27:37 am

Complicated.cns
No, I've never played a Zelda game before, shut up

Shamrock said, June 28, 2011, 05:22:35 am

There is this thing called a tax return. It is where they add up your tax breaks and how much you owe based on income. If you are poor, you get it all back.

Why is not like that in my country?

pls

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#107 June 28, 2011, 05:29:16 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

You mean like LA. Where they have trains and buses and roads and street lights and police and fire, and art, and hospitals, and electricity and shit.

You mean those ghettos?

Edit at Rednavi. It isn't all that cracked up though. Property value and food prices are to high for them to live and eat really, but they don't pay taxes. In fact, we give them food and healthcare through medicad. Better than other countries, but not good for a country that is so rich.

There are some people here, that are better off being poor actually. I mean if you make $7000 you still can't afford shit, but you don't get healthcare and shit.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#108 June 28, 2011, 05:30:41 am

because we don't get it all back.

Also again I said that neighborhood I was talking about wasn't poor and it wasn't the hood. So explain why it took over 40 years before they saw the streets get repaved.

Shamrock

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#109 June 28, 2011, 05:35:12 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Oh that is easy. Because you complain about the taxes. They had to raise the money to get the street paved.

On that note, that provides jobs.

We have been lowering taxes for along time. The entire country's roads and highway system was built when the taxes were 70% of our income and most people had a job, and healthcare back then.

But then came the antitax movement. See Reagan or What Bush Senior once coined "Voodoo Economics"

40 years hmmmm oh the 70s. Vietnam Nixon ford carter and then Reagan. Oh Reagan and your antitax movement.

Riptide

Re: Middle Class becomes eligible for Medicaid, Obama admin admits it fucked up

#110 June 28, 2011, 05:41:19 am

my complaint has nothing to do with that neighborhood. I'm just saying the government operates in this fashion. There is tax money for improvement in the areas that need it they just don't bother because cities are interested in keeping their face up.

I don't know how road jobs are relevant. You can not keep improving roads just because there are no other jobs for people to work. Sounds like you have seen gratuitous road construction. to make things worst the construction always neglects the areas that need it.

Bastard Mami

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#111 June 28, 2011, 05:44:18 am

[E]

that's clever handing of money, the places that bring in more money get fixed up firstthen the useless places later.

Riptide

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#112 June 28, 2011, 06:05:41 am

sure but 40 of forgetfulness...fuck how many times do I have to say not all of these areas are the ghetto or hillbilly land.

Plus why keep fixing something that doesn't need fixing. This goes back to efficiency.

kakkoii superhero

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#113 June 28, 2011, 06:18:50 am

all is love in fair and war

at least be grateful that your tax money is not going to the pocket of government workers, or mostly being spent to provide vanity for high level officials. the last time I tried to get my passport done via a legal slow route, in the end before the immigration guy gave me the passport he asked me to buy him several packs of cigarettes first straight to my face, no shame whatsoever, unless I know his superior officer then suddenly everything going through express route but then again the higher you would spend on "gifts" to such guy in high places, so in the end you're being mugged by a bigger fish.

I live in a country where highway/ traffic police officers openly suggest bribe money unless you really want to take a horrible legal route which nobody chooses because it will require you to spend the whole day waiting in the police office waiting for high ranking officer to look into your case and in the end you also pay more to get your driving licence back.

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#114 June 28, 2011, 06:23:18 am

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yup, they normally ask for a 100 bribe (whenever they feel like it, it's not like you have any legal way to prove you are innocent), if you refuse tpo pay up the fines cost thousands.

Shamrock

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#115 June 28, 2011, 06:23:52 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

It is call maintenance. In one breath (Couple of key stokes) you just complained that they are doing repairs and not doing repairs. Most of your arguments are that way.

And my point about jobs is that when people have jobs there is more tax money.

See Reagan lowered taxes and this brought in more revenue. That was because more investment from rich people caused more business. This thinking worked until those same business people moved overseas for cheaper labor, they even get tax breaks for doing so.

Then we got lucky with the internet and we were doing ok again. Then that burst and went overseas too. Then we fought two wars and those reagan Ideals of deregulation cause a banking meltdown.

Almost overnight the deficit doubled because people lost their jobs. This meant less people paying taxes and this meant more people were getting money from the government.

That is why I brought it up. Those guys out there, maintaining the road are bringing in tax revenue, while providing you with a new street to use. If we raised that taxes, then we could build more roads.

Here is another example. Medicaid. The population is old and dying. Between medicaid and medicare and the knew healthcare system. That is going to be a lot of work when they baby boomers start dying. They raise taxes on the rich, and leave them the same for healthcare workers and such and bam! More tax revenue and it just means that people that make over $200,000 have to by one less house next year... Boo hoo.

Yet you cry about it.

Cyanide

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#116 June 28, 2011, 06:40:55 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Taxes are a necessary evil of capitalism. Now, if you want nobody to EVER pay taxes. Go somewhere that's purely communist. They do not have it easy either.

I am happy with paying taxes, i just think the bands need to be more sensible (here) in which you start paying the top tax rate of 38% or something when you get $60k per year. That's a bad point. Should be more round the $120k mark (these are NZ pay rates and they actually rather suck)

Also, you don't fix or maintain things that are infrequently used or not in the important public's eye. Fixing those is done with leftovers. Governments need to be properly rich and not corrupt to get everything working properly.

Capitalism is fucked at the moment anyway and it may be some time before it functions again (and 30 years later it'll fall over again cos that's what it does)

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

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#117 June 28, 2011, 06:42:46 am

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Shamrock said, June 28, 2011, 06:23:52 am

It is call maintenance. In one breath (Couple of key stokes) you just complained that they are doing repairs and not doing repairs. Most of your arguments are that way.

And my point about jobs is that when people have jobs there is more tax money.

See Reagan lowered taxes and this brought in more revenue. That was because more investment from rich people caused more business. This thinking worked until those same business people moved overseas for cheaper labor, they even get tax breaks for doing so.

Then we got lucky with the internet and we were doing ok again. Then that burst and went overseas too. Then we fought two wars and those reagan Ideals of deregulation cause a banking meltdown.

Almost overnight the deficit doubled because people lost their jobs. This meant less people paying taxes and this meant more people were getting money from the government.

That is why I brought it up. Those guys out there, maintaining the road are bringing in tax revenue, while providing you with a new street to use. If we raised that taxes, then we could build more roads.

Here is another example. Medicaid. The population is old and dying. Between medicaid and medicare and the knew healthcare system. That is going to be a lot of work when they baby boomers start dying. They raise taxes on the rich, and leave them the same for healthcare workers and such and bam! More tax revenue and it just means that people that make over $200,000 have to by one less house next year... Boo hoo.

Yet you cry about it.

I never cryed about it, you big buffoon.

Riptide

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#118 June 28, 2011, 06:43:34 am

them bribes sound like a pain. You're government is just straight corrupt. I don't know how places get like that. It makes me scared that our government could take a worse turn. But that is not the same type of issue,( not quite) that I'm complaining about. perhaps it's a lesser versions or the start of corruption.

A few people doing road work in streets that were repaved two years ago and neglecting streets else where that haven't been maintenance in 20 years isn't going to do much for the economy. I'd just say this: you companies that are over seas, if you don't put half of your factories here in the US I will personally ban your products from being sold here for the remainder if my term.
If I was president I wouldn't mind abusing my power like that.

Capitalism is going laissez-faire again being a pain in the ass.

kakkoii superhero

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#119 June 28, 2011, 06:59:37 am

all is love in fair and war

but I think the majority of working people pay tax automatically since their salary already deducted for tax of which their company pay collectively, again in my country the system is abused since they markdown the number of their employees somehow so they pay less tax.

only entrepreneurs, dentists, architects, plumbers, etc. how many percentage that is compared to just plain salary-men / women who pay income tax automatically?

I don't mind paying income tax when I know for sure it is spent lawfully, I don't want to pay tax just so our city major can sell the last year toyota camry for a brand new benz, or to demolish a perfectly fine office building to build more luxurious one just because some developers approach him with a proposal including an interesting scheme to mark up the project cost so both party will get some parts of the cake or something along that line.

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#120 June 28, 2011, 07:05:45 am

hum....some of that is what seemed to be happening in central Ohio. Maybe they are corrupt there and that has twisted my views. I do remember a project to remodel the supreme court building going massively over budget with crush velvet chairs and gold leaf paint.
They also built a new court house. I thought they were gonging to tear the old one down due to asbestos. Turn out the higher courts or something are moving to the new building while the jail and other stuff are staying in the old one.
I think they built a new court house because people were tired of the scary black elevators in the old one.

kakkoii superhero

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#121 June 28, 2011, 07:21:24 am

all is love in fair and war

I've been to government subsidized university (lucky enough to pass the entry test, which for a minority like me is usually harder)

I studied architecture but at that time we don't have our own building, we shared classes with civil engineer, and then halfway of my study time, suddenly there was a budget to build a new 3storey building so our study program got its own designated classroom, yet within one year the tiles start exploding, door frames, staircase railing and student chairs falling apart, since instead of using screw the contractor use nails to safe cost. here any projects that has word government in it are straight corrupt.

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#122 June 28, 2011, 07:32:00 am

unfortunately something stupid as happened in CO some years back
If the painters had vapor respirators for the kind of work they did they wouldn't have died due to the smoke after a fire broke out. Not government related though. Shitty construction is never fun. Did the tiles explode when it got hot. I was at a school once that told me that the tiles will fall down if the temp got around 98.

If you want to read about CO incident. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/08/28/xcel-colorado-tunnel-fire/

Shamrock

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#123 June 28, 2011, 07:03:32 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

It is government related. It is called building codes. Trust me when I say I am always shocked when I travel to other countries because of the construction. Stuff like all thread sticking out at eye level waiting to blind you.

There is another thing you $194 pays for. It keeps you from getting blinded by simply walking around. Please Riptide.... Leave our country and come back.

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I never cryed about it, you big buffoon.

Buffoon... I wasn't even talking to you.

Jmorphman

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#124 June 28, 2011, 07:12:09 pm

Q.E.D.

Riptide said, June 28, 2011, 06:43:34 am

I'd just say this: you companies that are over seas, if you don't put half of your factories here in the US I will personally ban your products from being sold here for the remainder if my term.
If I was president I wouldn't mind abusing my power like that.

Do you know anything about what the President can and can not do? It doesn't make you a wizard.

vyn

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#125 June 28, 2011, 08:33:04 pm

Navetsea said, June 28, 2011, 07:21:24 am

I've been to government subsidized university (lucky enough to pass the entry test, which for a minority like me is usually harder)

its the other way around afaik, schools have a minority quota they have to meet so quite often all you have to do if you belong to one is show up. Then when the quota is met your chances dont go down, you simply have the same as everyone else.

SnowShingo

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#126 June 28, 2011, 08:38:33 pm

The president wouldn't be able to prevent companies from going overseas, or taking a majority of their production facilities overseas. That's congress and the senate, who had at some point made laws to essentially punish US companies from setting up in cheaper parts of the world through higher taxation. But since the Reagan era, it's been going back and forth between regulation and deregulation so often that there are literally hundreds of loop-holes in existing laws that allow large corporations to make much, much, much more money by having the manufacturing/workforce largely set in other countries.

MissB

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#127 June 28, 2011, 08:53:04 pm

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Riptide said, June 28, 2011, 05:25:26 am

they are in the ghetto because they do not make enough money but if you make over ( I think 6000 in a year) you have to pay income tax.

Standard deduction was 5700 last year, personal exemption was 3650. Thats for a single person with no dependants. There is also EIC and MWPC which is money GIVEN by the government to working people, it's not taxes that you already paid and are being refunded to you. People have to make a lot more than 6000 before they have to "pay" income taxes.

I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

Shamrock

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#128 June 28, 2011, 10:57:10 pm

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

As long is you don't go to H and R block that is.

The Simplistic Fubini

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#129 June 29, 2011, 02:39:32 am

Riptide said, June 28, 2011, 05:16:45 am

Also everybody know nicaragua is the second shittyist country in the west. They make Cuba look like Canada.

Protip: Don't use random countries for your analogies. Makes you look quite ignorant.

Bastard Mami

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#130 June 29, 2011, 04:12:18 am

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especially because as shitty as people wants to make you think cuba is, the poorest people in cuba have a much better life than the poorest people on most first world countries (including the usa).

Bastard Mami

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#131 June 29, 2011, 04:12:40 am

[E]

Amuromorphman said, June 28, 2011, 07:12:09 pm

Do you know anything about what the President can and can not do? It doesn't make you a wizard.

NO ? fuck it then.

Riptide

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#132 June 29, 2011, 06:53:05 am

Shamrock said, June 28, 2011, 07:03:32 pm

It is government related. It is called building codes. Trust me when I say I am always shocked when I travel to other countries because of the construction. Stuff like all thread sticking out at eye level waiting to blind you.

There is another thing you $194 pays for. It keeps you from getting blinded by simply walking around. Please Riptide.... Leave our country and come back.

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I never cryed about it, you big buffoon.

Buffoon... I wasn't even talking to you.

What the hell are you randomly spouting off at the mouth about?

I'm not sure just how much the president can abuse their power through executive orders. I was thinking of presidents of the past and how much power they had. As far and I can remember during the past 100 years our presidents have gained more power. Sorry if I can't find the extremes for acceptable abuse of power.

I heard Cuba was doing but I didn't know they were doing that well. I knew it was a risk mentioning them I just didn't think I was that far off the mark.

Shamrock

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#133 June 29, 2011, 08:24:45 am

Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.

Ya ever heard of Haiti. There is this thing called rebar; without it, the fucking cement roof collapses on you and kills you during an earthquake. Building codes man. Like I said, go to another country and just look at it.

They put fucking dangerous shit low that will stab your freaking eye out and shit. They will have piece of shit building materials and construction.

I though I made it pretty clear. Hey.... Do this... Go to Thailand and try to cross the street. Just try it. You will be begging for medicaid to pay for your hospital bills.

$194 keeps you from getting hurt.

Riptide

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#134 June 29, 2011, 08:31:39 am

well when you talk about shitty construction look no farther than San Fransisco and pray that every old building has been updated. Or better yet hope you don't live in china town.

I don't need a street light or cross walk to cross the street. There are 5 lane streets in any town where the cross walks are miles apart. better yet try crossing the interstate. Some make it, others have cross and teddy bears where they died at.

kakkoii superhero

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#135 June 29, 2011, 09:06:47 am

all is love in fair and war

well our buildings are not that wrong design wise, but the materials used are different than ones from the specification, like instead of screws the contractor use nails, use cheap wood so the door build up torsion and after few months it can't close, or sped up the work without giving proper time for the under layer to cure properly, so the wall paint flakes off the wall and use less cement to install floor tile etc. but only happens in government subsidized projects, public schools, public toilets, terminals, etc.

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#136 June 29, 2011, 09:43:18 am

So the government is the only cheep ass. I would think you would have problem with buildings that are built by businesses too.
Maybe your laws are so that only the government can get away with doing that stuff. Over here the government goes over budget with the stuff that they build.

hum...maybe over there people who get a contract to work with the government get paid before they do the project. Meaning they want to cut cost in buying supplies, employees and hours worked.

Over here I think they are sometimes paid a portion before the work is done then the rest after it finished so there for they want to spend as much time working and offering the government supervisors more stuff to add to the project. They know they will rack up the price on whatever more expensive type of carpet they recommend calming it took extra money to get it shipped here.

Bastard Mami

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#137 June 30, 2011, 04:14:04 am

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You have any idea how that works ?

The govt. usually contests whatever is going ot be build, so good look going ove the agreed cost/time.

kakkoii superhero

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#138 June 30, 2011, 06:06:03 am

all is love in fair and war

in a corrupt country the money on paper won't be the same with the money in reality, so the specification written in tender document is different than what executed, otherwise there would be impossible for a proposal of student desk design being put together by some nails would pass any tender.

and how the practice can be done so freely because the corruption is not done by certain individual instead everybody get their pocket filled by dirty money, when nobody is clean, so nobody dares to speak against it, when somebody work in a corrupt government and try to be clean clean, then nobody will promote him because he can't be trusted, and in the end he will have to accept being corrupt or tolerant with the situation because it is how it works.

in the police office whenever I want to extend my driving license the officer behind the counter already ask me immediately, this will take a long time, if you don't have much time there is a highway, that will cost you so much.

last time I took the normal way to extend my driving license they gave me a whole bunch of forms that all looked the same and with the same contents where I have to fill my name, address, occupation, etc. over and over again just to piss me off for not taking the suggested highway, while they already have those data in their computer, and later on the print out it showed the old data I had written the first time I applied for my driving licence in highschool when I was 3cm shorter, and my occupation was student, means they didn't change anything, and those forms I just filled went straight to the dustbin.

the officers of the law bully honest people around.

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#139 June 30, 2011, 08:21:08 am

Satou Sei~@ things go over budget all the time. May you don't know how it works since you haven't been in the US that much.

the LAPD had the ( everyone is corrupt) thing going in their department a while back fortunately the whole government wasn't totally corrupt. And they were outed though it was messy, incomplete and not everyone got punished. I'm not to sure how your government could be fixed. I have some theories but this subject isn't something I know enough about to comment. Because I don't know all the mechanism of how a government goes bad.

Lasombra Demon

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#140 July 04, 2011, 12:33:23 am

WIP: SF4 CE

Riptide said, June 27, 2011, 05:15:35 am

Lasombra Demon is missing from this thread. I was hoping he would pop up.

Sorry, I was out of the country for a while. Nice to see I was missed!

But expect me getting up-to-date with all my usual nonsense and wall-of-texting during this week.

Killer Kong

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#141 July 04, 2011, 01:03:06 am

Alright Simba you can do it
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Lasombra Demon said, July 04, 2011, 12:33:23 am

Riptide said, June 27, 2011, 05:15:35 am
Lasombra Demon is missing from this thread. I was hoping he would pop up.
Sorry, I was out of the country for a while. Nice to see I was missed!

But expect me getting up-to-date with all my usual nonsense and wall-of-texting during this week.

Great, keep going, the fodder will present itself! : D

Riptide

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#142 July 04, 2011, 03:26:07 am

hu....I was wondering why you were gone so long.

Lasombra Demon

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#143 July 04, 2011, 08:10:55 am

WIP: SF4 CE

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