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Oh Sh$%! Ryuji has a W.I.P!? A.K.A. Show me your moves!
#1  December 19, 2007, 08:28:22 am
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Yes... after much study (and leeching) I've finally gotten the motivation to release my first W.I.P. And unless you didn't get the hint from the title of the topic, here's my first project: Captain Falcon.


Yes, yes, before anybody decides to flip out and go "ZOMGYOUN00BDOEZSPRITESLUUKLIEKCRAPGOBACK2YOURKNIT TINGCUZYUSUK!!!", I do realize my sprite-work leaves much to be desired, but I figured I'd still give it a try, and I would like to give back to the mugen community in some shape or fashion. If anyone is interested in doing the sprites for this project, or if you are willing to give some "constructive" criticism and/or tips to make Cap'n Falcon look more aesthetic, then post away.

First of all, I'm using Cyclops as the base, with some of the sprites taken from Captain America as well. I couldn't find a sprite sheet/pack for Cyclops so I had to use an already-made character, which means I'm gonna have to get permission to use/alter the owner's original work (this is [Vanessa]'s Cyclops, by the way). Anyway, here's the low-down on what needs to be done:

- Create sprites to be redone to look like Captain Falcon
- Customize/Frankensprite from Cyclops and Cap'n America to create signature moves and poses
- Find a source for sounds/voice rips for him (seriously, I tried looking all over for decent voice rips for this guy... Anyone know where I may get them? I prefer voice rips from Smash Bros. Melee) - [glow=red,2,300]Done[/glow]
- Find flame sprites to use for specials
- Code him so that he plays in MVC fashion
- pray

At any rate, I've got my work cut out for me, but if anyone wants to lend a hand, be my guest.

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Last Edit: January 28, 2008, 05:17:43 am by Ryuji
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#2  December 19, 2007, 01:40:08 pm
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 :xmas: :lugoi2: :glasses2: It look super ultra mega Good Awsome keep it util the char see the light of day  :D
I can help you with the flames or search for Particle illusion
Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 06:19:50 pm by FenixAzul
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#3  December 19, 2007, 06:25:50 pm
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:xmas: :lugoi2: :glasses2: It look super ultra mega Good Awsome keep it util the char see the light of day  :D
I can help you with the flames or search for Particle illusion
Which do you think would look better?

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#4  December 19, 2007, 07:04:29 pm
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Sweet looking sprite. Good luck! :)
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#6  December 19, 2007, 08:13:45 pm
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I think it looks great, although his boots need more detail. IIRC his boots have falcons on them. Also, you should go with his GX style helmet, where the eagle's wings stick out instead of being flat on the helmet. (just search google images for captain falcon f zero gx and you'll see what I mean.)

btw, I can definitely get you sounds from melee (and by get I mean separate the sounds from the mp3 at GH) just pm me and I'll get started.
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#7  December 19, 2007, 08:35:51 pm
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:xmas: :lugoi2: :glasses2: It look super ultra mega Good Awsome keep it util the char see the light of day  :D
I can help you with the flames or search for Particle illusion
Which do you think would look better?

ehhhmmmmmm which what man? explain
I meant which would look better, flame sprites, or flames created with Particle Illusion, and after googling a bit, I think I'll go with Particle Illusion. Those effects were pretty.... :sugoi:

I think it looks great, although his boots need more detail. IIRC his boots have falcons on them. Also, you should go with his GX style helmet, where the eagle's wings stick out instead of being flat on the helmet. (just search google images for captain falcon f zero gx and you'll see what I mean.)

btw, I can definitely get you sounds from melee (and by get I mean separate the sounds from the mp3 at GH) just pm me and I'll get started.
I looked for the GX style helmet, and found a good reference, so I'll make the suitable changes. As for the boots, I'll start working on them as soon as I get all the other major things out of the way. And yeah, if you could get me those sounds, I'd be greatly indebted to you.

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#8  December 19, 2007, 09:02:57 pm
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By the way, its Show your moves, not Show me your moves

but anyway

I like the sprites, but I saw you should use darker shades, and unspqaurify the head abit

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#9  December 19, 2007, 09:25:04 pm
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Looks pretty good.

I think GigabowserX and some other guy were working on a Captain Falcon, but it appears to have been scrapped. :<

A couple of suggestions I have; the Falcon Punch should probably be a super. Also, he could have a super Falcon Punch like this as a Level 3. The other moves would work fine as specials, probably as half-circle motions or maybe charge motions.

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#10  December 19, 2007, 09:44:03 pm
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Sprite needs alot of work but I'm sure you planned on it.

Cyclops edit right?

Everything at the top looks unnatural.

Maybe Cable would fit better or even Captain America.

But hey good luck. Beats any of the God/super duper  evil and etc.

Let's see some more edits and in-game screens soon.

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#11  December 19, 2007, 09:59:15 pm
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Nice, but his underwear part needs a better shading
the same for the right and left arm.
The left arm look strange in the angle of it.
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#12  December 19, 2007, 10:18:19 pm
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awesome! though i think the upper body sprites look a tad weird. and the pants need more shading. also, he needs his knee of justice atack  :sugoi:
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#13  December 19, 2007, 11:44:41 pm
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Sprite needs alot of work but I'm sure you planned on it.

Cyclops edit right?

Maybe Cable would fit better or even Captain America.

But hey good luck. Beats any of the God/super duper  evil and etc.

Let's see some more edits and in-game screens soon.
Correct, Cyclops is the base, and I'll be using some of Captain America's sprites as well. Actually, when I first started out this project, I thought of using Captain Commando as the base, but that was short-lived. Also, I thought about using Cable, but Cable looks too bulky to be able to move as fast as Cap'n Falcon should be able to. Cable's got power, but Cap'n Falcon was made with speed in mind as well, which is why I decided to go with Cyclops.

On the subject of shading, does anyone wanna give their hand in on making it look better? You can see the somewhat extent of my abilities from the example pic in the OP.

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Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 11:50:51 pm by Ryuji
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#14  December 20, 2007, 02:56:43 am
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He would look better leaning over.  Also, one of his fists in front of him should shake like he does in the SSB series.  Be sure to include an SND file that has his SSB64 voice, along with an SND file that has his SSBM voice.
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Last Edit: December 20, 2007, 03:22:17 am by parrothead
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#15  December 20, 2007, 05:31:09 am
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He would look better leaning over.  Also, one of his fists in front of him should shake like he does in the SSB series.  Be sure to include an SND file that has his SSB64 voice, along with an SND file that has his SSBM voice.
BigJ was kind enough to provide me with voice rips for him from SSBM, but if you want an alternate voice pack, would you be so kind as to provide me with the voice rips from SSB64?

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#16  December 20, 2007, 06:21:11 am
Slick! I always wanted Captain Falcon for Mugen! Now all I need is for it to be completed and then I'll add him to my roster. When it's finished, will you PM me with where I can download it from?
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#17  December 21, 2007, 11:28:49 pm
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Stance looks good, but i think it will look better if the stance was edited from cvs m.bison/vega
great work so far though :square:

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#18  December 30, 2007, 12:18:37 am
Did you get the profile picture I sent you? I trimmed it from an F-Zero GX pic I found in a Google image search.
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#19  December 30, 2007, 07:48:45 am
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DUDE! I was totally gonna make that! lol The only difference that Was going to do was base falcon's body off of Captain America's since captain america has a little bit more motion like falcon excluding america's stance though.
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#20  December 30, 2007, 03:24:56 pm
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For a start it is not bad at all.

Remember to learn what you can about photoshop and bear in mind the behavior of the cap.

For example a theoretical moveset woul be:

FALCON PAUNCH! - QCF + P (PP for stronger punch and PPP for strongest)

Falcon Kick (he did this on the 1st smash bros.) - QCF + K (again KK for stronger and so on...)

Dashing Falcon kick (remember to have him bounce off the sides of the screen. You can compare coding from chun li, spiderman, and vega.) - Hold back to charge then K (and as said before KK for stronger and yadda yadda)

Air jumping explody grabbing (dunno the name off the bat) - Hold down to charge then P (and again yadda yadda)

Now if you want to you can have some of these moves be used on the air if you like.

I didn't reall get what style of groove you are going to have him use. My example moveset is for something capcom based. But if you are going to keep the cap so that he plays like in smash bros. by all means do so if you wish.

If you want to do that then you'll have to look at warner's Luigi for coding comparison.

Hope your project goes well. Just remember that perfection is not a finish line but a journey.
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#21  December 30, 2007, 03:32:30 pm
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i swear this captain falcon BETTER have the knee from melee

IT BETTER have the knee. BETTER!!

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Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 03:38:22 pm by SilviaZeroShift

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#22  December 31, 2007, 01:07:57 am
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#23  December 31, 2007, 12:04:52 pm
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#24  January 02, 2008, 09:36:22 pm
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First off, Happy New Year everyone! Here's to hoping that this year will be better than the last one! :sugoi: I appreciate everyone's support and input on this project. So far I have about 60%-70% of his sprites captured, and it seems as though editing them won't take as long as I thought it would. I've been messing around with Particle Illusion a bit, and find that it is worth the investment. :lugoi: A few quick questions just so I know what I'm dealing with though:

1. 0_o? Falcon knee!? I may not be as observant as most people are, but I'm not sure what is meant by this move... Do you mean the knee attack he does just before he does the infinite punching thing in his melee combo? Or are you talking about his Up-B move where he jumps, grabs, and makes his opponents go all explody and everything (and yes, that move is called the Falcon Dive, though he is jumping... :S). At any rate, if it's what I think it is, I've already plans to make that move. If it isn't give me some details, and I'll be happy to include it in Cap's arsenal.

2. Is there a main difference between the regular Falcon Kick and the Dashing Falcon Kick? The only thing I can see is that the coding for the regular Falcon Kick could be reserved for Air moves, where he shoots downwards at an angle, and the Dashing Falcon Kick is the one where he glides across the ground. May I have some clarification on what you mean please?

3. Any suggestions for winposes/intros? I was thinking of going with the classic "enter the battlefield with his vehicle, jump off, pose, and the vehicle leaves" intro, but I don't know where to find sprites for his vehicle, and I'm scared to sprite them myself. Anyone up for the challenge?

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#25  January 02, 2008, 09:42:41 pm
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1. 0_o? Falcon knee!? I may not be as observant as most people are, but I'm not sure what is meant by this move... Do you mean the knee attack he does just before he does the infinite punching thing in his melee combo? Or are you talking about his Up-B move where he jumps, grabs, and makes his opponents go all explody and everything (and yes, that move is called the Falcon Dive, though he is jumping... :S). At any rate, if it's what I think it is, I've already plans to make that move. If it isn't give me some details, and I'll be happy to include it in Cap's arsenal.

I believe it's his airial forward-A move.

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#26  January 02, 2008, 09:55:21 pm
3. Any suggestions for winposes/intros? I was thinking of going with the classic "enter the battlefield with his vehicle, jump off, pose, and the vehicle leaves" intro, but I don't know where to find sprites for his vehicle, and I'm scared to sprite them myself. Anyone up for the challenge?

I like that intro very much, it was my favorite during the old N64 Smash Bros. days. For win poses, I was kinda thinking of incorporating some of the winposes he had after winning a match in Super Smash Bros. Melee. I think I could use MSPaint and come up with the Blue Falcon vehicle from a side view, I just need to kinda get to know the transperiency color so I know what I'm working with.
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#27  January 04, 2008, 01:36:23 am
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Last Edit: January 04, 2008, 01:39:47 am by SilviaZeroShift
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#28  January 04, 2008, 09:29:28 am
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#30  January 17, 2008, 11:36:24 pm
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OMG CAPTAIN FALCON! I havent seen any c.falcons before, i hope it's going smoothly....and the knee better be in.....

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#31  January 18, 2008, 08:19:20 am
Hey Ryuji, you need to let me know if you got the stuff I e-mailed you. Also, let me know if you need me to edit the Blue Falcon sprite at all (Thinner lines maybe?).

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#32  January 18, 2008, 10:22:27 pm
I'm sorry to be a bother, but when you said you wanted the Blue Falcon at an angle, did you mean something like this? If so, then I will work on this the best I can, like I said, college might kill me big time.
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#33  January 20, 2008, 11:29:05 pm
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I'm sorry to be a bother, but when you said you wanted the Blue Falcon at an angle, did you mean something like this? If so, then I will work on this the best I can, like I said, college might kill me big time.
That's perfect! That's the exact one I need!

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#34  January 21, 2008, 12:29:00 am
I'm sorry to be a bother, but when you said you wanted the Blue Falcon at an angle, did you mean something like this? If so, then I will work on this the best I can, like I said, college might kill me big time.
That's perfect! That's the exact one I need!
Great! Now to make the sprite, it'll take me a while to work on, but when it's finished, I promise that you won't be disappointed.

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#35  January 22, 2008, 01:08:08 am
Hey Ryuji, thought I'd let you know that I finished the sprite. Before sending it, I thought I'd ask your opinion on it by getting a preview. I know, it looks crappy, but I tried to model it off of the image I had shown earlier. Hope you like it.
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#36  January 22, 2008, 02:03:21 am
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I think with a little shadow detailing that'd be spot on =)

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#37  January 22, 2008, 03:22:42 am
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See if you can make the nose of the ship a little longer, and change the 7's to 07, add a little shading here and there, and you've got it. But definitely make the nose longer.

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#38  January 22, 2008, 05:53:27 am
Well, I took the advice, and here's version 2. Added shading in certain areas, some white highlights for the windshield, nose extended (Might need to be longer?), and 7's are now 07's. Overall, I like this one more than the first, hope you do too.


EDIT: Any comments on this newer version?
Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 12:43:37 am by MugenFreak30
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#39  January 27, 2008, 01:18:05 am
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he'll have to battle my Waluigi sometime...
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#40  January 28, 2008, 05:14:17 am
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Sorry progress is slow. Just got over the flu, and am trying to get college stuff out of the way. Being sick sucks...  :-X

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#42  January 29, 2008, 04:55:20 am
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Awesome job, I'm really looking forward to the great, random joy of "Faaalcon punch!". For a Win pose, He could flex a muscle, and at the same time, a fire falcon (Falcon Pucch) appears arround him, and he dissapears. A wav of a falcon cry can play.
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#43  February 07, 2008, 10:55:29 pm
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Or, you can try to copy Smash Brother's winposes.

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#44  February 08, 2008, 02:06:07 am
Or, you can try to copy Smash Brother's winposes.
I said that already. All I can really say at this point is, "I like that idea, but we'll have to wait on pics or vids on the beta to see what he has in store for us with Falcon."