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Other Engines
#1  November 02, 2013, 05:30:53 am
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Hi.
Its possible to have a section called OTHER ENGINES, so we can start posting about indie games done with engines which are something relative to Mugen, like OpenBOR, FM, Game Maker, etc?

I ask this because the only place we can post this is at Game section and, for obvious reason, anything you post that get covered with a flood of posts on the other posts at the same section, specially when some big game is out (like the new Pokemon game).

I think we can benefit for starting to know another engines, its a whole different world.

Thanks.

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Re: Other Engines
#2  November 02, 2013, 05:34:00 am
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I second this, but I don't see much interest in OpenBOR (for example), or other engines
But stuff like Z's and yours are great and should have more attentione here
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Re: Other Engines
#3  November 02, 2013, 05:44:49 am
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I second this, though the actual format of the subforum might need a discussion, but avoiding any ocd a simple anythign goes forum should be enough to start with.

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Re: Other Engines
#4  November 02, 2013, 05:49:45 am
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Seems good to be honest, let's say people pick up EF12 and start creating stuff for it, it'd be great to share here and see what you can do with it or interest others into doing it. While the forum itself is Mugen specific we do have a ton of people for it really.

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Re: Other Engines
#5  November 02, 2013, 11:11:32 am
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I approve this idea.
A subforum under games or fighting games could do it.

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Re: Other Engines
#6  November 02, 2013, 02:10:50 pm
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The problem with a subforum is if the parent forum have any post (and Game has a flood of post), you won't never get some spotlight.

It could be a forum under "Art & Entertainment" called Other Engines. At IMT, we have a section for it, where we put some words on the name to identify which engine is related to that topic http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=102.0 (but once it gets bigger, I think we will need to change its format).

As posted here, when EF-12 comes out, I am sure that we will have some contents here, and we will need to have some place to discuss.

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#7  November 02, 2013, 02:16:45 pm
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Not that my voice counts, but this is a great idea which i would totally support. Giving the other engines and the people working with them a little spotlight here through a subforum would be a cool addition.

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Re: Other Engines
#8  November 02, 2013, 03:57:41 pm
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against, i don't think i've seen more than 10 threads about other engine games, and the latest one ( http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/tmnt-shell-shocked--154263.0.html ) was posted over three weeks ago, has two pages of posts and is still in the first page despite all other gaming news. i wouldn't say it was covered in a flood of pokemon posts

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Re: Other Engines
#9  November 02, 2013, 04:01:40 pm
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Let me post some images, it will explain better than my crap english



I can make a reply and, in no time, it won't appear on both sections (specially at the area on the second image).
This is what I means.

Just is just an idea, if its not needed, its okay. But I think it would be better this way.

O Ilusionista

Re: Other Engines
#10  November 02, 2013, 04:09:16 pm
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Like this

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Re: Other Engines
#11  November 02, 2013, 04:37:49 pm
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new posts in that list get pushed down quickly when the forum is active. adding a subforum wouldn't change that

also if the imt subforum is any indication, this wouldn't have enough activity to justify its existence. the imt board has been there over a year, doesn't have more than one page of threads, several threads have no replies, and only five have more than one page of replies. it seems like it'd be a waste of time tbh

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Re: Other Engines
#12  November 02, 2013, 04:40:22 pm
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because, at IMT, they made that section like one month ago. Before that, the posts were at Game section.
so its something very new. And MFG has way more activity than IMT.

But it this is wate of time, that is okay.

Titiln

Re: Other Engines
#13  November 02, 2013, 04:53:26 pm
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from what i can tell in this post there was a BOR subforum there for  less than a year. point about little activity to a board dedicated to another engine still remains. also if i call it a waste of time that's just my opinion. i have zero decision making power here. it's just that i look at imt and i see way too many subforums. i think that hurts activity and readabilty in the long run

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Re: Other Engines
#14  November 02, 2013, 04:55:21 pm
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So its better to be a subforum under Games, right?

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#15  November 02, 2013, 04:56:02 pm
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Maybe a relative big push for fan games / own games / characters etc made with different game engines than Mugen could work.

Instead of just a subforum, a new forum section with own subfrums. To see how interested the community here is, it would need to be tested for 1 months maybe.

The time needed to create such a new forum part is only like 10 minutes.
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Re: Other Engines
#16  November 02, 2013, 05:02:32 pm
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i guess you could throw them into a child board but i don't really think that would change things much as far as activity goes

Germanbaraka667 said, November 02, 2013, 04:56:02 pm
The time needed to create such a new forum part is only like 10 minutes.
if you want to make it proper you'd have to look for all user made games posted ever and move them into the new board and that would take significantly longer than 10 minutes

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Re: Other Engines
#17  November 02, 2013, 05:05:25 pm
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Titiln, I think this will change once EF-12 cames out. And this can improve the activity.

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Re: Other Engines
#18  November 02, 2013, 05:09:42 pm
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ef12 is an entirely different beast. ef12 has a huge overlap with mugen since they're fighting game engines. i expect an ef12 board at some point. not a board mixed with other engines, though.

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Re: Other Engines
#19  November 02, 2013, 05:09:58 pm
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Our userbase isn't going to jump into ambitious projects just because we hand them a sparkling new empty forum :P. I really don't see how that could work.

A subforum for user-created games would be coo, but there isn't a growing need or even a high demand for that atm. Maybe in the future.

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Re: Other Engines
#20  November 02, 2013, 05:13:37 pm
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I meant for the creation of the empty board /forum sector, not the content of course Tiltin, ..something like a database as you imagined it would be cool but why would that even be the target of such a forum part?

There is the Mugen DB too, but the main point why people use the MFG forum are the new developments, future and work in progress stuff, the idea ingeneering and q&a threads, i bet there are already some big BOR etc. related websites where the many games are listed, but the strenght of this forum and community is the active sharing and discussing (feedback) by creators for other creators and the people who play the games /characters etc.

A forum for the other engines would highlight them a lot more than just a thread in the games section which could lead to more activity there.
EF12 could be highlighted with an own subforum maybe

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Re: Other Engines
#21  November 02, 2013, 05:19:50 pm
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Germanbaraka667 said, November 02, 2013, 05:13:37 pm
I meant for the creation of the empty board /forum sector, not the content of course Tiltin, ..something like a database as you imagined it would be cool but why would that even be the target of such a forum part?
the creation of an empty board takes less than 2 minutes. if your idea of making a new board for content is just throwing it there without moving any relevant threads then that's a pretty bad idea. by waste of time i also mean on the long run, after the board's creation. as in, looking at the board months after it was made and thinking "well that was a waste of time"

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Re: Other Engines
#22  November 02, 2013, 06:43:21 pm
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yeah, like the music board.

having an another engines board is also useful because of relevance, just like we have a separate fighting games and regular games boards. the two could easily be a single board and it would be even easier to manage, no need to have more is smash a fighting game discussions as example, but fighting games are relevant because the forum is about a fighting game engine, thus a fighting game board was convenient.

Titiln

Re: Other Engines
#23  November 02, 2013, 06:51:26 pm
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the music board is a dud. the fighting game board made sense because when it was created it had pages and pages of threads to move into it. i can't say the same for other engine games

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Re: Other Engines
#24  November 02, 2013, 07:17:06 pm
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In retrospect, the FG board was actually a pretty damn good idea. Not just because there were a bunch of old threads to drop in, but also a lot of incoming fighting games.

And all of that was due to the massive sales of SFIV opening the market for more commercial fighting games. I doubt BOR, 2DFM, RPGM or anything like that (except that 3D fighting engine) will spike in popularity any time soon.

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#25  November 03, 2013, 03:32:42 am
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I'm also not for the board. These threads can be made in Fighting and Gaming respectively. There are a LOT of boards on this forum. If other engines started to make a big growth here I'd vouch for it. Like with the sprite projects board.

Also, if there are boards that are not active we should just remove them to cut down on the clutter. Integrate them into other boards, etc

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Re: Other Engines
#26  November 03, 2013, 09:25:22 am
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For.  There are some non-mugen projects I have made that I want to post about to get some feedback (good and bad) from this group, and for some reason it kind of felt arrogant to post it in the fighting game section.  Sort of like saying my goofy ass patchwork fighters are as good as commercial products.

Titiln

Re: Other Engines
#27  November 03, 2013, 03:22:41 pm
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this is a forum basically built on goofy ass patchwork fighters i don't really think anyone would mind

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Re: Other Engines
#28  November 03, 2013, 07:25:07 pm
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I'm also agree about making a subforum for other engines, but I think a subsection under Fighting Games should be more than enough than make it its own subforum

Or, if you want to test if this could work without create anything, why don't just make a sticky thread in Fighting Games about Other Engine news and discussion, and evaluate the posts there to be enough for its own subforum??

Titiln

Re: Other Engines
#29  November 03, 2013, 07:29:08 pm
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making it under fighting games is even more limiting and a worse idea

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Re: Other Engines
#30  November 04, 2013, 12:48:32 am
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And what is your idea, Titiln?

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Re: Other Engines
#31  November 04, 2013, 12:55:29 am
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leaving everything as it is (people post their projects in gaming or fight games). i thought i made my stance clear by now
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