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Started by Peter H, July 26, 2011, 11:09:17 am
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Overpowered Characters
#1  July 26, 2011, 11:09:17 am
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Do you have any characters that are overpowered in a stupid way?

I have some that are ridiculous. I have a Rayquaza and it has a blue-beam attack that dosen't even belong to him. What the hell? Also, if you get hit by it, your dead.



I saw a picture of a Street Fighter character performing this move, I think it belongs to that guy with the red band on his head and the white-tattered clothes? I heard his name was Ryu or something...


So, do you have any overpowered characters? Post screenshots if you like.
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#2  July 26, 2011, 11:15:13 am
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#3  July 26, 2011, 11:15:57 am
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

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#4  July 26, 2011, 11:17:39 am
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Then you shouldn't even be here.
Or even touching MUGEN for that matter.

Seriously that whole post gave me one hell of a migraine. I'm going to bed.

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#5  July 26, 2011, 11:18:52 am
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LOL. Oh man. QOTD.
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#6  July 26, 2011, 11:19:40 am
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i would've done that.

if he wasn't obviously screwing with us.

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#7  July 26, 2011, 11:21:30 am
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I don't care, I still have a migraine now.
Fuck this gay earth.
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#8  July 26, 2011, 11:26:41 am
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I love this thread, every single post in it. 

Unfortunately, I too have a migraine now :(
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#9  July 26, 2011, 12:00:34 pm
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Bosses are allowed to be overpowered though in my opinion!   >:D

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#10  July 26, 2011, 01:18:40 pm
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Then you shouldn't even be here.
Or even touching MUGEN for that matter.

Seriously that whole post gave me one hell of a migraine. I'm going to bed.


Where does it state in the rules that you have to know all the fighting games there are to play MUGEN?


And what the hell is wrong with this topic? It's just a thread. I was literally describing a character who I don't know, from a game I don't know, and whose name I don't know.


Every post in this thread, apart from Werewood's, is off topic. Why?
Good news for all of you.

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Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#11  July 26, 2011, 01:23:55 pm
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I'm curious, but have you played any commercial fighting game?

And to answer your question, just refer to the things people generally disown for their abysmal quality.
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#12  July 26, 2011, 01:27:07 pm
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I'm curious, but have you played any commercial fighting game?


Yeah, I've played Tekken: Dark Ressurection. That's pretty much the only game I own that is all about fighting.


But does it matter if I know anything about Street Fighter?
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Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
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#13  July 26, 2011, 01:29:30 pm
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Yes. It does. Street Fighter is THE fighting game.

Stop playing yourself. :-\
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#14  July 26, 2011, 01:34:12 pm
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But does it matter if I know anything about Street Fighter?

If you'd like for the community to take your word with a grain of salt, rather than brush you off for ignorance, then I'd say so.
Sometimes you just need a little less gun.
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#15  July 26, 2011, 01:37:16 pm
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Yes. It does.

What? You gotta be kidding me. I'm pretty sure that not everybody who plays MUGEN knows about Street Fighter.

Street Fighter is THE fighting game.

The fighting game? I'm also pretty sure that there are more fighting games than Street Fighter itself. I've heard of Virtua Fighter on the 32X, Tekken: Dark Ressurection which I own, and Sonic Battle which I have as a R**.


You also may want to look at the threat title and revise what you talk most about in it.

Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter

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#16  July 26, 2011, 01:45:42 pm
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My mom doesn't even play videogames and even she knows what Street Fighter is.
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#17  July 26, 2011, 01:50:09 pm
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My mom doesn't even play videogames and even she knows what Street Fighter is.

That's because she's either heard of it more than I have, or she's seen you play it yourself.


I don't HAVE to know about Street Fighter, do I?

By the way, not to mini-mod or anything, but I made a Feedback thread, so why not talk about this in that thread rather than here.
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Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
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#18  July 26, 2011, 01:59:28 pm
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Oh hi.
Sometimes you just need a little less gun.
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#19  July 26, 2011, 02:14:44 pm
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I'm also pretty sure that there are more fighting games than Street Fighter itself. I've heard of Virtua Fighter on the 32X, Tekken: Dark Ressurection which I own, and Sonic Battle which I have as a R**.
What? You gotta be kidding me. I'm pretty sure that not everybody who plays MUGEN knows about Street Fighter.

This is ridiculous!
MUGEN is very niche! You don't go looking for MUGEN having played VF, Tekken or Sonic!!
The games you listed and MUGEN aren't really compatible, if you said something like King of Fighters then possibly.
Even then though, you would have still have heard of Ryu.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere who has played a fighting game and has not herd of Ryu. Maybe if the person is under 10 years old.
That is the equivelent of me signing up to a Donnie Yen forum and saying I haven't heard of Bruce Lee!!  --;
If you look around this is a forum dedicated to (for the most part) 2D beat um up's, with Street fighter being the main one.  :ninja:

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#20  July 26, 2011, 02:57:32 pm
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I'm also pretty sure that there are more fighting games than Street Fighter itself. I've heard of Virtua Fighter on the 32X, Tekken: Dark Ressurection which I own, and Sonic Battle which I have as a R**.
What? You gotta be kidding me. I'm pretty sure that not everybody who plays MUGEN knows about Street Fighter.

This is ridiculous!
MUGEN is very niche! You don't go looking for MUGEN having played VF, Tekken or Sonic!!
The games you listed and MUGEN aren't really compatible, if you said something like King of Fighters then possibly.
Even then though, you would have still have heard of Ryu.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere who has played a fighting game and has not herd of Ryu. Maybe if the person is under 10 years old.
That is the equivelent of me signing up to a Donnie Yen forum and saying I haven't heard of Bruce Lee!!  --;
If you look around this is a forum dedicated to (for the most part) 2D beat um up's, with Street fighter being the main one.  :ninja:


The reason I got MUGEN is that you can put characters from other franchises in it. And I have heard of Ryu, but I do not know anything about Street Fighter. Hearing about things does not make you know about it.

And if this a forum dedicated to 2D beat em up's, why is this called "MUGEN Fighters Guild" when there are more than 2D fighting game characters available for it?
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Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
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#21  July 26, 2011, 03:38:52 pm
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Yes. It does.

What? You gotta be kidding me. I'm pretty sure that not everybody who plays MUGEN knows about Street Fighter.

Street Fighter is THE fighting game.

The fighting game? I'm also pretty sure that there are more fighting games than Street Fighter itself. I've heard of Virtua Fighter on the 32X, Tekken: Dark Ressurection which I own, and Sonic Battle which I have as a R**.


You also may want to look at the threat title and revise what you talk most about in it.

i'm disappointed you didn't mentioned GAROU DENSETSU / fatal fury because it is THE REAL FIGHTING GAME.
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#22  July 26, 2011, 07:21:21 pm
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I saw a picture of a Street Fighter character performing this move, I think it belongs to that guy with the red band on his head and the white-tattered clothes? I heard his name was Ryu or something...

I almost puked when I read that...
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#23  July 26, 2011, 07:31:28 pm
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Nobody has to know about street fighter.EVERYBODY SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW ABOUT RYU.
as usual a thread has been sent off track by the usual assholes on this forum.YES I'M TALKING TO YOU.not everybody grew up and was suddenly able to know about EVERY FUCKING FIGHTING GAME EVER KNOWN TO MANKIND.
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#24  July 26, 2011, 07:56:12 pm
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this thread is LOL, thank you

Yes. It does.

Street Fighter is THE fighting game.

The fighting game? I'm also pretty sure that there are more fighting games than Street Fighter itself. I've heard of Virtua Fighter on the 32X, Tekken: Dark Ressurection which I own, and Sonic Battle which I have as a R**.
that's not what he meant

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What? You gotta be kidding me. I'm pretty sure that not everybody who plays MUGEN knows about Street Fighter.
I won't generalize anymore since I'm seeing someone who apparently doesn't know about it

Do you have any characters that are overpowered in a stupid way?
there are TONS of them
btw YES, I have 3 without count the bosses(as they're supposed to be cheap)
Rare Akuma(because he's lol), A "nuke"(wich I use to learn/create coding), and another ridiculously cheap private(wich I use just for "show" & is lol aswell)




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#25  July 26, 2011, 10:01:20 pm
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I understand not knowing what KOF is or some other fighting game that is only known by people in the community, but how the fuck do you NOT know what Street Fighter or at least Mortal Kombat is.

If you don't even know who RYU is then you have no business in a community for a fighting game engine.  Go to Smash Bros or something.
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#26  July 26, 2011, 10:03:58 pm
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Obvious Troll is obvious.

Stop feeding the Troll people. It will only make it bigger and stronger (and uglier).
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#27  July 27, 2011, 12:09:38 am
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Nintendo should put Ryu in their next Smash Bros game. That way, little kids will know about him. :)
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#28  July 27, 2011, 12:14:51 am
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Sometimes you just need a little less gun.

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#29  July 27, 2011, 12:26:05 am
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Just put Ryu in Call of Duty or Halo. :thumbsup:
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#30  July 27, 2011, 12:37:03 am
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MelvanaInChains put Heavy D' in Doom. Does that count ?

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#31  July 27, 2011, 12:43:02 am
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Doom is too old school for these youngsters. :(

Unless it's Doom 3. :P
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#32  July 27, 2011, 01:04:30 am
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These youngsters need to brush up on their history, they've missed out on the classics.


EDIT @PeterFoster: I see Sonic and Knuckles in your sig, have you played their original cartridge titles on the Genesis? A lot of young people who talk to me about them only have exposure to the new (in my opinion lackluster titles) & have never played their initial games. I'm going to make a guess here that you're primarily a pokemon fan, its great that you're getting interested in the MUGEN engine and all but your ignorance to what is largely considered the one of the most iconic figures of fighting games and videogame history in general is equivalent to blasphemy on this forum. Sorry about the negative reactions you've been getting thus far, just know its understandable that people here are justifiably shocked that you haven't heard of Ryu.
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#33  July 27, 2011, 09:48:20 am
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These youngsters need to brush up on their history, they've missed out on the classics.


EDIT @PeterFoster: I see Sonic and Knuckles in your sig, have you played their original cartridge titles on the Genesis? A lot of young people who talk to me about them only have exposure to the new (in my opinion lackluster titles) & have never played their initial games. I'm going to make a guess here that you're primarily a pokemon fan, its great that you're getting interested in the MUGEN engine and all but your ignorance to what is largely considered the one of the most iconic figures of fighting games and videogame history in general is equivalent to blasphemy on this forum. Sorry about the negative reactions you've been getting thus far, just know its understandable that people here are justifiably shocked that you haven't heard of Ryu.


I have the Firestar/Blaze Sega Mega Drive model, and Sonic and Knuckles is built into it. I'm also playing Sonic 1, 2 and 3 on an emulator. And yes, I am a pokemon fan. I have Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Soul Silver.

I have heard of Ryu, I just said I do not know of him. I've also heard of Ken. But I've just heard of these characters, not know the complete franchise.

And I do know fighting games. I even own Tekken: Dark Ressurection, so that's a fighting game franchise that I know of. I've also seen the Angry Video Game Nerd play Virtua Fighter on the Sega 32X.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
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#34  July 27, 2011, 05:51:17 pm
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'I like Disney animations. But I don't know what's the deal with that black mouse with gloves.'

Ryu is the most known character in fighting games, like, ever. Check Google results to verify this, if you want. Also, take into account that for most people here you've just claimed to not know something that is pretty much the most basic stuff of the fighting game genre, and a pop culture icon of the 90s (a ton of us grew up during that era, mind you); if someone is too much of a dick about it, report that person. But keep calm and don't get mad, try to understand their viewpoint.

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#35  July 27, 2011, 06:04:33 pm
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 if someone is too much of a dick about it, report that person. But keep calm and don't get mad, try to understand their viewpoint.


Obvious Troll is obvious.

Stop feeding the Troll people. It will only make it bigger and stronger (and uglier).


Then you shouldn't even be here.
Or even touching MUGEN for that matter.

Seriously that whole post gave me one hell of a migraine. I'm going to bed.


yep,nothing wrong here.you should try to understand their viewpoint /sarcasm





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#36  July 27, 2011, 06:10:43 pm
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I can usually understand why people here get mad at me over something (albeit a bit late, but well...). I can understand how people here think I'm trolling them sometimes when I'm not. In any case, I've been involved in situations where someone was rude towards me.

That doesn't mean I have to be a dick to them, right? I try to respectfully clarify what I'm saying, explain my viewpoint, ask them about theirs and what they mean, and move on.

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That doesn't mean I have to be a dick to them, right? I try to respectfully clarify what I'm saying, explain my viewpoint, ask them about theirs and what they mean, and move on.

well,first of all,that probably has 20% chance of working.I lurk, and read old topics,and out of all the years,nobodies changed whatsoever.everybody was still then person they were.trolls are still trolls,noobs are still noobs,people that destroy threads are still thread destroyers.No.Improvement.whatsoever.
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#38  July 27, 2011, 06:25:04 pm
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Oh boo hoo people are being mean on the Internet.

Going on a forum centered around the development of a fighting game engine with little to zero knowledge of fighting games is like walking into a gay bar knowing nothing about homosexuality and then coming out wondering why you got fucked in the ass. The onus is kinda on you for being ignorant of shit like that.
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#39  July 27, 2011, 07:51:01 pm
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Perfect analogy right there, I applaud you for such boundless logic. :sugoi:
Sometimes you just need a little less gun.
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#41  July 27, 2011, 09:57:43 pm
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Kozeni's Bagan. 'Nuff said.



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#42  July 27, 2011, 10:26:26 pm
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whoaaaaaaaa! a guy in mugen never heard of the most well known iconic person in all of fighting game history? Now that is simply astonishing! i thought most people from late 80's and on up knew what street fighter was. so i am figuring one of 3 factors. 1. he is from a village somewhere deep in the amazon jungle and just moved to a more metro city, 2. a lil kid , or 3. just trollin . lol nahh just kidding with ya man. but yeah i am just baffled that your in mugen and dont know anything about street fighter.

I know a character thats hella overpowered. that character called Christian. he is a rugal edit i believe. I had him and fighting against him was a pain in the ass! had give powerback move and made him even more vicious than he already was. I lost him since my mugen crashed i had and now i cant find the dude. dont even remember who made him but whoever did....damn you! lol
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#43  July 27, 2011, 11:08:14 pm
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I know an overpowered character for your roster. His name is Ryu and it's so overpowered that appears in every Capcom game :P
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#45  July 28, 2011, 01:04:37 pm
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Kozeni's Bagan. 'Nuff said.



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Wow! Where did you get that? I love Kaiju :)

I'm guessing that's from Super Godzilla for the SNES.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
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#46  July 28, 2011, 08:42:13 pm
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I have a few that i did a match against or reference to..

Jirougaki's chars,i mean look at the damage for the projectiles and melee one simple combo could do a instant kill
Guts by OGGY..i hate him,-teleporting hit-boxes, overpowered combos, a sword that covers the whole front-
Z-TON by UMA  it's bad enough that it has a instant kill beam..but teleportation and fast movements too?  :S
Constantinus III by fishbed she's just ridiculous, multi palettes that gives her multi abilities Example-regeneration,barriers,projectile spamming cannons-

I still have more but never mind  :P

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#47  July 28, 2011, 08:44:27 pm
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whoaaaaaaaa! a guy in mugen never heard of the most well known iconic person in all of fighting game history? Now that is simply astonishing! i thought most people from late 80's and on up knew what street fighter was. so i am figuring one of 3 factors. 1. he is from a village somewhere deep in the amazon jungle and just moved to a more metro city, 2. a lil kid , or 3. just trollin . lol nahh just kidding with ya man. but yeah i am just baffled that your in mugen and dont know anything about street fighter.


I'm going to say this one last fucking time, and everyone who says I haven't heard of Ryu needs to hear it.


I have heard of Ryu, I just do not know about him. Nor do I know any of the Street Fighter characters. I have HEARD of them. Not known them, not owning any SF games. The only thing I know about Ryu is what he looks like, what he wears, and even one of his moves (the blue-beam attack thing).

Let's take an example. Let's say you never knew who Michael Jackson was. You see a picture of him, or perhaps footage of him doing a concert. This is you hearing of him, but not knowing him the second you see it. To know, you need to learn. So you go onto Google and spend a few minutes defining who Michael Jackson is. After a few minutes, you should know some facts about him. The reason you looked this up was because you were interested. I, for one, have no interest in Street Fighter. Heard, not known.

You guys are misunderstanding, and hopefully I can make you understand.

I have a few that i did a match against or reference to..

Jirougaki's chars,i mean look at the damage for the projectiles and melee one simple combo could do a instant kill
Guts by OGGY..i hate him,-teleporting hit-boxes, overpowered combos, a sword that covers the whole front-
Z-TON by UMA  it's bad enough that it has a instant kill beam..but teleportation and fast movements too?  :S
Constantinus III by fishbed she's just ridiculous, multi palettes that gives her multi abilities Example-regeneration,barriers,projectile spamming cannons-

I still have more but never mind  :P


I have a Sonic from Sonic Advance, and whenever I try to air-attack the Gigan you linked me to in the Does This Thing Exist thread, he has quick reflexes so he flips so his tail knocks me back. So I can only use ground attacks. Also, when I'm too far, he constantly fires his eye lasers, both long and quick, and slow and short.

Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#48  July 28, 2011, 08:52:08 pm
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They feed of drama, let it get to you and you'll feed em more.

Harmony is harmony is harmony is not with us, harmony is not with us. Living hell is coming.

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Re: Overpowered Characters
#49  July 28, 2011, 09:35:26 pm
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This thread is producing a shitload of bad grammar, at this rate it'll be a disease.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#50  July 28, 2011, 09:48:17 pm
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Kozeni's Bagan. 'Nuff said.



[Bagan is the massive brown hulk on the left, in case you didn't know.]


Wow! Where did you get that? I love Kaiju :)

I'm guessing that's from Super Godzilla for the SNES.
Just Google "Bagan by Kozeni MUGEN." That's how I found him.


I could only find him on eSnips, but I have to log in to my account which I don't have, or I download a stupid eSnips downloader. No worries, I requested him on my request thread.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#51  July 29, 2011, 10:46:39 pm
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Omg, has anyone seen this Bulbasaur character? It's rage attacks K.O you in ONE FUCKING HIT. Regardless of how much bulk a character has, this Bulbasaur is ridiculously overpowered with it's rage attacks. It's normal attacks are ok, but it can keep firing razor-leaves and crawling plant roots. Thankfully it dosen't abuse this in AI, but if you get hit by the seed that it shoots once it apparently evolves, your dead.

It evolves into Ivysaur and Venusaur, but wait: after it does it's attack in it's evolved form, it devolves back to Bulbasaur. Isn't that impossible? Also, how could he directly evolve into Venusaur without evolving into Ivysaur first?

Anyway, here's a pic of him performing it's seed attack:





See Knuckles' health bar? That's him getting one-hit KO'ed. A second later, and his health bar will be empty.



God, who the fuck made this.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#52  July 31, 2011, 05:29:57 pm
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i dont see the point of this thread lol


MUGEN CHARACTERS
Sabaku no Temari [100%] = RELEASED!
Akasuna no Sasori [100%] = RELEASED!
Namikaze Minato [5%] = ON HOLD
Uzumaki Naruto [5%] = Coding basic attacks

Re: Overpowered Characters
#53  July 31, 2011, 05:46:34 pm
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#54  July 31, 2011, 06:44:03 pm
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that red guy and big stone dick in your sig are badly sized.

Apologize immediately and change your sig.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#55  July 31, 2011, 06:59:26 pm
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You are hardly one to call anyone a noob seeing as how you registered a bout a month ago.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#56  July 31, 2011, 08:11:51 pm
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AHAHA The kid that doesn't even know about Street Fighter is calling someone else a n00b.

//edit:
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temaridaikamaitachi
Date Registered: October 09, 2007, 07:43:33 pm
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PeterFoster111
Date Registered: July 01, 2011, 03:20:51 pm

Also most of temaridaikamaitachi posts are from the Development section and it seems he at least has enough knowledge on Mugen coding to edit characters on his own. He also uses his time here to learn more instead of making duplicate accounts to bitch because he can't ask others to make characters for him because "it's too hard".

One last thing, before you get mad an ask to be treated with respect be sure to treat others with respect yourself.
Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 08:24:31 pm by Bastard Wolf
Re: Overpowered Characters
#57  July 31, 2011, 09:25:44 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#58  July 31, 2011, 09:34:57 pm
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Yeah.

Peter Foster, you don't get to make posts like that. Don't make posts like that anymore.

Also most of temaridaikamaitachi posts are from the Development section and it seems he at least has enough knowledge on Mugen coding to edit characters on his own. He also uses his time here to learn more instead of making duplicate accounts to bitch because he can't ask others to make characters for him because "it's too hard".

One last thing, before you get mad an ask to be treated with respect be sure to treat others with respect yourself.
Thank you.

And Kudos to Temaridaikamaitachi for trying to learn while actually making progress.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#59  July 31, 2011, 11:37:19 pm
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that red guy and big stone dick in your sig are badly sized.

Apologize immediately and change your sig.


That's because Onix, the stone snake, is bigger than Knuckles, the red guy, compared to his size. Would it be unrealistic if Kung Fu Man was as big as King Kong?


Also, I only change it if it's breaking the rules or if I want a new one. You have no control over my sig.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#60  August 01, 2011, 12:03:28 am
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im asking you again

Either remove or change your sig

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#61  August 01, 2011, 04:19:18 am
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#62  August 01, 2011, 04:26:10 am
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that's not what you should be suggesting.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#63  August 01, 2011, 06:18:29 am
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#64  August 01, 2011, 06:30:17 am
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Haha, 11 is only a year younger than you.

I was kind of on your side until now. :P
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/quacks-fighting-gameish-spriteland-129571.0.html
My art thread ^

LunchPolice is my name on other forums. You can still call me Quack here, though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#65  August 01, 2011, 06:31:38 am
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im asking you again
Either remove or change your sig
Why should I? I see no problem with my sig. If you don't like my sig, you'll just have to turn off avatars/signatures.


base on i see on your sig on your team lol 5 out of 6 chars are kinda cheap


and i guess 3 pic on a siggy... kinda not cool to see

no wonder for an ordinary newbie like you have that kind of a roster (i mean that your team roster)

recommending some OP or cheap characters is for the newbies..


oh boy...
Re: Overpowered Characters
#66  August 01, 2011, 10:24:05 am
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Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

GLB

Re: Overpowered Characters
#67  August 01, 2011, 10:38:15 am
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This thread is bananas.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#68  August 01, 2011, 04:13:11 pm
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im asking you again
Either remove or change your sig
Why should I? I see no problem with my sig. If you don't like my sig, you'll just have to turn off avatars/signatures.


base on i see on your sig on your team lol 5 out of 6 chars are kinda cheap


and i guess 3 pic on a siggy... kinda not cool to see

no wonder for an ordinary newbie like you have that kind of a roster (i mean that your team roster)

recommending some OP or cheap characters is for the newbies..


oh boy...


I pick the ones that go well together as Simul teams. If you saw my full roster, it would actually look like I've just began, but I haven't, because my screenpack can hold 600 characters (I actually wanted 100, but... yeah.)


Why should I? I see no problem with my sig. If you don't like my sig, you'll just have to turn off avatars/signatures.
Remove it now


Fuck off. I don't take orders from regular users, especially ones who order me to do something that isn't necessary.

This thread is bananas.


Because of lolmechy.

Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#69  August 01, 2011, 04:38:02 pm
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You guys all need to be more caring and loving and respectful of one another.  No one cares about Street Fighter anyway, the real fighting game pros play Smash Bros.

:sweetheart:
Re: Overpowered Characters
#70  August 01, 2011, 04:48:18 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#71  August 01, 2011, 04:51:42 pm
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What's TMNT?  Is it anything like Ben Ten?
Re: Overpowered Characters
#72  August 01, 2011, 06:18:19 pm
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Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#73  August 01, 2011, 06:24:05 pm
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Stop that.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#74  August 01, 2011, 06:26:28 pm
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Ok

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#75  August 01, 2011, 06:54:24 pm
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 06:58:53 pm by PeterFoster111
Re: Overpowered Characters
#76  August 01, 2011, 06:56:51 pm
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Great job

Be sure to thank mr Rajaa

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#77  August 01, 2011, 06:57:24 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#78  August 01, 2011, 07:00:19 pm
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#79  August 01, 2011, 07:06:11 pm
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How can people be more annoying than Hurricane2 in less than a month?
pls

GOH

Re: Overpowered Characters
#80  August 01, 2011, 07:07:08 pm
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I coulden't care any less if you call my posts shit.
Apparently you do since you keep replying, and replying, and replying...

Please go back to elementary school before going into forums and talking to adults ok?

Cheers.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#81  August 01, 2011, 07:08:00 pm
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You cared enough to reply to him, kid. F- for effort. See me after class.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#82  August 01, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#83  August 01, 2011, 07:29:00 pm
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Still no need to swear.

It's just rude.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

GOH

Re: Overpowered Characters
#84  August 01, 2011, 07:29:44 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#85  August 01, 2011, 07:31:10 pm
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  • My surname is not Foster, FYI.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#86  August 01, 2011, 07:32:05 pm
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Oh so you are racist too.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#87  August 01, 2011, 07:33:18 pm
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Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter
Re: Overpowered Characters
#88  August 01, 2011, 07:35:20 pm
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No but you said that americans dont care if they swear. Oh i bet there are plenty of americans who care if they swear (tee hee).

Racist.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#89  August 01, 2011, 10:09:37 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#90  August 01, 2011, 10:15:47 pm
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this guy's stupidity is certainly overpowered, that's for sure

sooner or later, everybody puts up with xiangfei
project thread / obscure mugen wiki / tweeter for mugen stuff
Re: Overpowered Characters
#91  August 01, 2011, 10:21:11 pm
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Peter, I'm American, and I care if I swear. Only swearing I do is on the internet. Why? Because... it's the internet.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#92  August 01, 2011, 11:07:47 pm
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PeterFoster give up already

GLB

Re: Overpowered Characters
#93  August 01, 2011, 11:14:16 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#94  August 01, 2011, 11:17:33 pm
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This thread is producing a shitload of bad grammar, at this rate it'll be a disease.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#95  August 01, 2011, 11:18:46 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#96  August 01, 2011, 11:21:37 pm
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Yeah, Hurricane2s is brighter than this kid.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#97  August 01, 2011, 11:25:34 pm
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Re: Overpowered Characters
#98  August 01, 2011, 11:25:55 pm
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Wait, isn't Peter the guy who considered himself a non-noob just cause he has two stars and has been here for almost a month? oh hai!
Re: Overpowered Characters
#99  August 01, 2011, 11:26:41 pm
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This thread reminds me of Toho Kingdom, a forum where a topic can be derailed by one unpopular post. --;
This thread is producing a shitload of bad grammar, at this rate it'll be a disease.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#100  August 01, 2011, 11:37:45 pm
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This thread reminds me of Toho Kingdom, a forum where a topic can be derailed by one unpopular post. --;


I've been to Toho Kingdom and got banned on two accounts. First was because I was breaking too many small rules, and second they eventually found out I was under 13, so yeah.
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter

GLB

Re: Overpowered Characters
#101  August 01, 2011, 11:41:04 pm
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Someone's about to have deja vu.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#102  August 01, 2011, 11:47:12 pm
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Man kids just start swearing younger and younger.

How saddening :(

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.

GLB

Re: Overpowered Characters
#103  August 01, 2011, 11:48:41 pm
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Isn't there some sort of age limit for this forum anyways? Shouldn't they be at least over 14 or something?
Re: Overpowered Characters
#104  August 01, 2011, 11:49:59 pm
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Quote
found out I was under 13

So many questions answered.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#105  August 02, 2011, 12:00:29 am
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So a preteen's here in MFG, making himself foolish and providing the majority with ammunition.

For Peter's sake, I'd suggest he leave until adolescence; he should be smart by then. -_-
Sometimes you just need a little less gun.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#106  August 02, 2011, 12:06:23 am
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Well technically it's not wrong, since Jewish can refer to both ethnicity and religion.  Otherwise though....yeah....

And probably because of that there's a specific term for the hatred towards jews: antisemitism.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#107  August 02, 2011, 12:07:13 am
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What makes this especially stupid is the fact that he just gave us his age. Or indicated that he's still a child. I should have known: All the epic grown-ups know Street fighter! >_<
Re: Overpowered Characters
#108  August 02, 2011, 12:26:29 am
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At last he can actually type well. That's uncommon for a person his age.
This thread is producing a shitload of bad grammar, at this rate it'll be a disease.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#109  August 02, 2011, 12:31:17 am
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we already knew his age thanks to this thread

The guy has severe problems at reading comprehension, I suggest to just ignore him because his answers aren't even funny.

What makes this especially stupid is the fact that he just gave us his age. Or indicated that he's still a child. I should have known: All the epic grown-ups know Street fighter! >_<

I'm sure he's just the minority, lots of young people know Street Fighter, even at his age.
pls
Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 12:38:55 am by Rednavi
Re: Overpowered Characters
#110  August 02, 2011, 12:37:05 am
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Well... can we still keep him? I feel as though he's bringing us together, you know? We're fighting against a common enemy!  :sugoi:
Re: Overpowered Characters
#111  August 02, 2011, 12:39:30 am
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It's not a fight when his ass is constantly pwnd :P
pls
Re: Overpowered Characters
#112  August 02, 2011, 12:44:19 am
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 :stare: I got got.

Well, I was looking at the comments before all this and saw that he insulted user with age. saying that he was "10 or 11". I lolled hard at that. Super Hard
Re: Overpowered Characters
#113  August 02, 2011, 10:31:41 pm
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whoa! this thread has went into a whole other dimension. lmao.  i was about to post about another overpowered character in mugen buuuuut uhhh nevermind.  watchin the show.  ;D
Re: Overpowered Characters
#114  August 02, 2011, 10:45:50 pm
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You can go ahead and talk about that overpowered character since the main attraction of this thread has been banned for two weeks.
Re: Overpowered Characters
#115  August 02, 2011, 10:52:30 pm
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I was about to say the same. If you want to know the reasons, just go to the Public Staff section.