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#1  May 15, 2011, 05:04:05 am
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Canadian researchers find a simple cure for cancer, but major pharmaceutical companies are not interested.

Researchers at the University of Alberta, in Edmonton, Canada have cured cancer last week, yet there is a little ripple in the news or in TV. It is a simple technique using very basic drug. The method employs dichloroacetate, which is currently used to treat metabolic disorders. So, there is no concern of side effects or about their long term effects.

This drug doesn’t require a patent, so anyone can employ it widely and cheaply compared to the costly cancer drugs produced by major pharmaceutical companies.

Canadian scientists tested this dichloroacetate (DCA) on human’s cells; it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells and left the healthy cells alone. It was tested on Rats inflicted with severe tumors; their cells shrank when they were fed with water supplemented with DCA. The drug is widely available and the technique is easy to use, why the major drug companies are not involved? Or the Media interested in this find?

In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer. So they used to focus on glycolysis, which is less effective in curing cancer and more wasteful. The drug manufacturers focused on this glycolysis method to fight cancer. This DCA on the other hand doesn’t rely on glycolysis instead on mitochondria; it triggers the mitochondria which in turn fights the cancer cells.

The side effect of this is it also reactivates a process called apoptosis. You see, mitochondria contain an all-too-important self-destruct button that can't be pressed in cancer cells. Without it, tumors grow larger as cells refuse to be extinguished. Fully functioning mitochondria, thanks to DCA, can once again die.

With glycolysis turned off, the body produces less lactic acid, so the bad tissue around cancer cells doesn't break down and seed new tumors.

Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, without a patent they can’t make money, like they are doing now with their AIDS Patent. Since the pharmaceutical companies won’t develop this, the article says other independent laboratories should start producing this drug and do more research to confirm all the above findings and produce drugs. All the groundwork can be done in collaboration with the Universities, who will be glad to assist in such research and can develop an effective drug for curing cancer.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Scientists_cure_cancer__but_no_one_takes_notice

I think the most disturbing thing about this is that I'm not in any way surprised.  There's so little altruism left in the world that I'm not even shocked to hear that a life-saving treatment is being passed over because it's not profitable.
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Sometimes humanity is fucking stupid.

This is one case.
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i call bullshit

i think it would be interesting if drug dealers turned themselves around and saw that this could be their opportunity and start cooking up the shit in their bathtub if it's true though
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If you use a bit of logic you will most likely find out that these kind of discoveries happens every year. Diseases that can be cured but can't gain alot of profit from it.

It's quite obvious that cancer (And probably several other diseases) can be cured but the cure is not developed because it's not profitable. Cancer cure research is probably one of the longest cure research runs in the current medic history and with the money invested (Including people who DONATES THEIR money for the cause) it's most likely that several cures or atleast one were found. It's like with the flu, there's a cure but its not revealed because the money used on flu/cancer treatments helps the companies to get more cash for whatever they do with it.
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It's like with the flu, there's a cure but its not revealed because the money used on flu/cancer treatments helps the companies to get more cash for whatever they do with it.
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Yeah the more people that die, the more money they get.
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No, then they would be LOSING customers.

The idea is to live with what you have. Just listen to Chris Rock. He has everything I would want to say, but he said it better.
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It's like with the flu, there's a cure but its not revealed because the money used on flu/cancer treatments helps the companies to get more cash for whatever they do with it.
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I didnt explain very well my point with the whole "whatever they do" and all that (I was really quite vague :P)

The point is simple, they have 2 options:

1) Find the cure for [Insert disease here] and produce it. The cure is really cheap and the disease is a bit rare (As in, it's not flu, something rare as "left ear alien cancer"). They get money by selling the cure. Cool profit.

2) Find ways to delay or suppress the different simptoms a disease causes (Best example here would be AIDS I guess). Those medicaments are quite expensive and are required in a fixed time basis (Weekly, mothly, even daily for some other diseases). Companies that distribute this gets tons of money everyday.

Option 2 is obviously the one that will net the most money for the companies and labs but option 1 is also a factible one to get money if you decide to tackle on a more general illness and the cure isn't that cheap to produce (I mean the point of that article is about how nonprofitable is that cancer cure right?).

I hope I explained myself better now, time to go back to reading some other articles :P
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I figured that if you applied chaos-theory, that cancer was the chaotic component in an orderly system.

If you cure cancer (or perhaps if you don't), it seems that there will be something else that will crop up.
i think we should call it an "engine" so we don't look like total idiots because otherwise we'd be arguing about a "game" and that would be somehow "dumber" than arguing about an "engine" on the "internet" for countless hours

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I for one, do not enjoy round corners!  :bigcry:
But they hurt much less when we accidentally hit them!  :S
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Also, a mitochondria is not a cell, it is PART of a cell.

Mitochondria are a VERY important part of a cell, which is why the article named part of its operation. Without mitochondria, cells can not metabolize energy, just capture it, for example erythrocytes haven't mitochondrias and nucleus and only live for 120 days. But I don't know that has to do cancer with glycolysis??  o_O Cancer is spontaneous and can be produced by cell mutations that lead to a 'bad' cell which proliferates rapidly damage tissues and form what is called a tumor.

The news is old, but really let's face it, if there is a cure for cancer, many millionaires could be cured and they had not died  :S
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What Rednavi is saying isn't an uncommon belief and it isn't an entirely ridiculous notion. James Orbinski has made statements about this in regards to aids medicine, where he showed that aids medicine costed 10,000 dollars or around there per month, and under his leadership, he was able to bring it down to 100s of dollars.

I would use aids as an example rather than the flu though :P
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If you use a bit of logic you will most likely find out that these kind of discoveries happens every year. Diseases that can be cured but can't gain alot of profit from it.
This is actually true, I have some family working in the biotechnology industry, developing drugs for cancer and crohn's disease. From what I understand there are plenty of drugs that have been tested at successfully shrinking and in rare cases curing certain types of cancer but due to profitability(either the drugs costs far too much to develop and the amount the company would sell it for no one would buy it, or because the company would simply make dick on it).

I question the legitimacy and facts of the article that in the opening post, but yea the $$$ money making when it comes to medicines and cures is fucked up shit.
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#17  May 16, 2011, 10:07:00 am
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The following article sort of explains why there really isnt a "cure" for cancer, its mostly related on how cancer isnt exactly a disease, but the definition of a whole range of diseases and mutations that can be really different between themselves.


http://www.livescience.com/5566-40-years-moon-landing-cure-cancer.html


Havent read the article on the first post, will do so later, but thought this would help out the discussion.

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The news is old, but really let's face it, if there is a cure for cancer, many millionaires could be cured and they had not died
This is true, even if there are diseases whose cures get pushed back due to being unprofitable, they are not diseases as widespread as cancer.
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#18  May 16, 2011, 10:16:46 am
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I thought you were making a joke thread about my comment about people celebrating the death of Bin Laden, but how I doubted that people would dance in the street if we cured cancer. Strange timing for the crazieness of the way my mind works.

Here is the source for that report in the first post.

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DCA is an odourless, colourless, inexpensive, relatively non-toxic, small molecule. And researchers at the University of Alberta believe it may soon be used as an effective treatment for many forms of cancer.

Dr. Evangelos Michelakis, a professor at the U of A Department of Medicine, has shown that dichloroacetate (DCA) causes regression in several cancers, including lung, breast, and brain tumors.

Michelakis and his colleagues, including post-doctoral fellow Dr. Sebastien Bonnet, have published the results of their research in the journal Cancer Cell.

Scientists and doctors have used DCA for decades to treat children with inborn errors of metabolism due to mitochondrial diseases. Mitochondria, the energy producing units in cells, have been connected with cancer since the 1930s, when researchers first noticed that these organelles dysfunction when cancer is present.

Until recently, researchers believed that cancer-affected mitochondria are permanently damaged and that this damage is the result, not the cause, of the cancer. But Michelakis, a cardiologist, questioned this belief and began testing DCA, which activates a critical mitochondrial enzyme, as a way to "revive" cancer-affected mitochondria.

The results astounded him.

Michelakis and his colleagues found that DCA normalized the mitochondrial function in many cancers, showing that their function was actively suppressed by the cancer but was not permanently damaged by it.

More importantly, they found that the normalization of mitochondrial function resulted in a significant decrease in tumor growth both in test tubes and in animal models. Also, they noted that DCA, unlike most currently used chemotherapies, did not have any effects on normal, non-cancerous tissues.

"I think DCA can be selective for cancer because it attacks a fundamental process in cancer development that is unique to cancer cells," Michelakis said. "One of the really exciting things about this compound is that it might be able to treat many different forms of cancer".

Another encouraging thing about DCA is that, being so small, it is easily absorbed in the body, and, after oral intake, it can reach areas in the body that other drugs cannot, making it possible to treat brain cancers, for example.

Also, because DCA has been used in both healthy people and sick patients with mitochondrial diseases, researchers already know that it is a relatively non-toxic molecule that can be immediately tested patients with cancer.

"The results are intriguing because they point to the critical role that mitochondria play: they impart a unique trait to cancer cells that can be exploited for cancer therapy"
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The DCA compound is not patented and not owned by any pharmaceutical company, and, therefore, would likely be an inexpensive drug to administer, says Michelakis, the Canada Research Chair in Pulmonary Hypertension and Director of the Pulmonary Hypertension Program with Capital Health, one of Canada's largest health authorities.

However, as DCA is not patented, Michelakis is concerned that it may be difficult to find funding from private investors to test DCA in clinical trials. He is grateful for the support he has already received from publicly funded agencies, such as the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), and he is hopeful such support will continue and allow him to conduct clinical trials of DCA on cancer patients.

Michelakis' research is currently funded by the CIHR, the Canada Foundation for Innovation, the Canada Research Chairs program, and the Alberta Heritage Foundation for Medical Research.

"This preliminary research is encouraging and offers hope to thousands of Canadians and all others around the world who are afflicted by cancer, as it accelerates our understanding of and action around targeted cancer treatments," said Dr. Philip Branton, Scientific Director of the CIHR Institute of Cancer.

DCA and Cancer Patients

The University of Alberta's DCA Research Team is set to launch clinical trials on humans in the spring of 2007 pending government approval. Knowing that thousands of cancer patients die weekly while waiting for a cure, Dr. Michelakis and his team are working at accelerated speed, condensing research that usually takes years into months. Fundraisers at the University of Alberta are determined to raise the money to allow this next phase of research to begin. Once Health Canada grants formal approval, the University of Alberta's Research Team will begin testing DCA on patients living with cancer. Results with regards to the safety and efficacy of treatment should be known late this year.

I bolded the part that talks about funding. It makes sense not to fund, if you a profit seeking company. I don't want to make this a soap box for single payer government run programs, but I will point out that there is reason this comes from Canada.

Also, to those that think this will not be available in the future because of the profit motive, the scientist who come up with the polo vaccine made it free for all, and we still give it to people... So that idea is far fetched. But don't be surprised with a company doesn't give money to the people that are about to put them out of business. 

PS. Those of you that said you would dance for cancer cures in the Bin Laden thread, must film yourself and put it on youtube and give us a link.... Otherwise you are a hypocrite.  ;D
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#19  May 16, 2011, 10:30:22 am
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Also, a mitochondria is not a cell, it is PART of a cell.

Mitochondria are a VERY important part of a cell, which is why the article named part of its operation. Without mitochondria, cells can not metabolize energy, just capture it, for example erythrocytes haven't mitochondrias and nucleus and only live for 120 days. But I don't know that has to do cancer with glycolysis??  o_O Cancer is spontaneous and can be produced by cell mutations that lead to a 'bad' cell which proliferates rapidly damage tissues and form what is called a tumor.

The news is old, but really let's face it, if there is a cure for cancer, many millionaires could be cured and they had not died  :S

I call bullshit too
mitochondria produces energy and as far as I've hard doesn't kill anything inside your cells. Mitochondria live in your cells they are not a part of you. Your DNA doesn't even code fro them. Yeah maybe you could code mitochondria to kill cancer or kill the cancer cells....hum....I aught to see if that could work.
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I thought you were making a joke thread about my comment about people celebrating the death of Bin Laden, but how I doubted that people would dance in the street if we cured cancer. Strange timing for the crazieness of the way my mind works.

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PS. Those of you that said you would dance for cancer cures in the Bin Laden thread, must film yourself and put it on youtube and give us a link.... Otherwise you are a hypocrite.  ;D
I dressed up like Captain America, Guile, Spiderman and Anti-Cancer man last night and got really drunk. WOOOHOOOO!!
Those who distrust we killed cancer are crackpot constipacy theorists who hate Canada! Those who distrust the treatment getting better funds, too (wtf pharmaceuticals control EVERYTHING?). Still, I'd like to see cancer on trial.

mitochondria produces energy and as far as I've hard doesn't kill anything inside your cells
Parasite Eve proves you wrong!


Now, seriously, what everyone is saying about drugs being funded only if expensive is taking out academia of the equation, which is not a minor thing. A (very possible) Nobel prize is something most of us would kill for, and I doubt the medic scientific community would let this go under the radar only because it's not profitable. This kinda stuff would've been published in serious journals and have been in the news already.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/05/dichloroacetate_dca_and_cancer_deja_vu_a.php

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I call bullshit too
mitochondria produces energy and as far as I've hard doesn't kill anything inside your cells. Mitochondria live in your cells they are not a part of you. Your DNA doesn't even code fro them. Yeah maybe you could code mitochondria to kill cancer or kill the cancer cells....hum....I aught to see if that could work.

You're wrong, answer me this question: What would happen if the majority of the cells of our body does not have mitochondria?
If the myocardial cells have not mitochondria, glucose could not be metabolized and pyruvate can't enter to the mitochondria and produce oxidative metabolism. In conclusion, no food and the tissue would die  :( Despite that only mitochondrial DNA is involved in mitochondrial protein-coding, they're useful for oxidative metabolism within them. So now answer me if mitochondria are an important part of a cell or not..  >:(

Who can tell me what to do with the glycolysis cancer?
Cancer = nuclear DNA mutation -> anomalistic protein-coding -> uncommon mechanisms triggering cell = malignant cell :twisted:
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#22  May 16, 2011, 02:57:31 pm
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You getting into oncology, Darkgirl? (psycho oncology is quite a specialization over here, not my cup of tea, though)

So, have you heard of these studies in your academic enviroment? Teachers, co-workers, journals? :p

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You getting into oncology, Darkgirl? (psycho oncology is quite a specialization over here, not my cup of tea, though)

So, have you heard of these studies in your academic enviroment? Teachers, co-workers, journals? :p

No, I don't like oncology... but with each passing year in the medical career, we can see things related to oncology...
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talking about it, today died a friend of my father by cancer... sad to know that and read this at the moment  :S
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#26  May 17, 2011, 02:28:19 am
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AFAIK, the WHO has released info on the fact that diabetes, cancer and heart diseases are the ilnesses causing the most deaths worldwide. That's right, non-transmittable diseases. Our lifestyles have finally caught up with most of us. :P

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Our lifestyles? You mean eating and breathing are lifestyles?
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I mean sedentary lifestyles. At least that's what I remember from that report. :P

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cancer is related ot the lifestyle ?
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Somehow. First of all, NOT dying from other stuff means you are more likely to get cancer. :P
Second, living next to carinogenic stuffs (sup Chernobyl). Third, consuming carinogenic stuff (i.e. carinogenic food/water).

Then again, we still don't understand that much about cancer (and 'cancer' is way too broad a term which implies a ton different kinds of anomaolous cellular reproduction). Darkgirl will certainly be able to explain it better than me.

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I didn't say they weren't important I just said they don't kill things in the cell. Some cells have more mitochondria
than others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrion

Things that kill items in the cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysosome

Yeah, mitochondrion = Their number varies depending on cell function; lysosome = degrade cell components that aren't longer needed as old organelles  :)

AFAIK, the WHO has released info on the fact that diabetes, cancer and heart diseases are the ilnesses causing the most deaths worldwide.

That you missed addictions and traffic accidents, but I think it depends on the country.

cancer is related ot the lifestyle ?

No, that's spontaneous, although it can occur also by external stimuli... biological, physical and chemical stimuli, for example: radioactivity, microorganisms and all sorts of factors that can alter cellular DNA.



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The list of most frequent causes of death are very large, but it is always easier to simplify what to name the most common, for example in my country are:
1-Cardiovascular disease
2-Traffic accidents
3-Cancer
4-Addiction

In regards to cancer, no one is sure whether genetics is involved in it, if you have a parent with cancer isn't likely that you also have it, tobacco and sun exposure are considered chemical and physical factors respectively...

I read that right? Physical activity is a risk factor for cancer?  o_O
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I might have something to do with speeding up your metabolism or something but I think it's the other way around. A lack of activity is a risk factor.
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So I'm doing it wrong!!! D:

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lol soccer.

deodorant will give you cancer.
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As far as i can tell, every study done on Cancer proves that 60% of the people in the study wind up with cancer. So they decide this majority means that whatever they're testing on increases your risk of cancer.

I've worked out it's just 60% of people world wide get cancer regardless of lifestyle, age, genetics etc. You are not more or less at risk from anything. Just don't make yourself unhealthy by eating too much etc and you are as likely to get cancer as any other basically healthy person.


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#41  May 17, 2011, 08:18:04 am
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meat eater has more risk of colon cancer
middle age women who want to maintain their female hormone through taking pills also has greater chance to get cancer, but it is also genetic, some people are more easily develop cancer than other.
and it is more like separatist movement within your own body than a disease.
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so this means im balls out for this cancer shit
i cant count the reasons i should stay

one by one they all just fade away...


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Thank God Im short as hell, seems like it was a curse with a bless then. Im getting more and more defenses against cancer  :twisted:
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I don't see any numbers given. What the hell constitutes "tall"? I'm 5'9".
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You're pretty average height.

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#52  May 18, 2011, 12:32:05 am
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#53  May 18, 2011, 12:35:45 am
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Yeah, I'm 5'9" too. And I'm always the shortest guy around.
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#54  May 18, 2011, 12:43:11 am
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Real niggas measure in meters, fuck the inches!
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you fuck the inches every night :pwn:
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Being tall or not completely is completely defined by the social context you live in. I'm 1.79 meters tall (fuck the imperial system, by the way) and I'm called tall often. But that's because I live in a an extremely poor country with a crappy genetic pool; the average male is only 1.68.

Next to you I'd be average at best.
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#59  May 18, 2011, 05:12:43 am
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"Being tall is a measure of being well off and living longer is a measure of that.

"And we are more likely to get prostate cancer if we live longer."

being tall = being well off
being well off = living longer
living longer = more likely to get cancer

being tall = more likely to get cancer


I learned something new today, we can say random shit and then pull out some logic out of our asses.

like:
Hitler loved jews


1)
God = love
when jews die = they meet God

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Hitler gathered jews to have them dead
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Hitler gathered jews to meet their God
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Hitler gathered jews to show them love



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#60  May 18, 2011, 05:16:45 am
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It's called "Troll Logic"

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#62  May 18, 2011, 06:06:31 am
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I'm often worried when scientists do this.
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#64  May 20, 2011, 12:55:34 pm
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These stories are complete mindfucks for so many cancer patients and caregivers out there. Watching my wife cry because of the fear, angst, and guilt that we're not doing all we can to keep her alive gets me so very angry. And the quacks that profit by perpetuating the myth that we actually have the ability to cure cancer but it's being suppressed by some vast global conspiricy of doctors... oh... i'm shaking I'm so mad right now.
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living and dying from cancer is a way of life in our family, someday I'll walk the same road too and I will not spend anything to get my self mutilated or partially poisoned. I'll just buy pain killer and enjoy it till the last minute

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My uncle died from throat cancer a few years ago. It's infuriating to think that nothing is being done about these developments when the opportunity is at hand.
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see it like this, when our body lose ability to live without major overhaul, or mechanical implants, then it is our time to move on to fertilize the land.
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My uncle died from throat cancer a few years ago. It's infuriating to think that nothing is being done about these developments when the opportunity is at hand.

Are you dropping your work and giving your 100% effort to search for a cure for cancer ? if not you are hardly qualified to complain.

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#69  May 21, 2011, 12:35:17 am
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In case you didn't read the thread, the cure was already found.

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Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, without a patent they can’t make money, like they are doing now with their AIDS Patent.
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knew it was bullshit

you saw me. I called it. I'm right once again.
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#72  May 21, 2011, 10:00:42 am
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So did I.


anyway it's so said your family dies from cancer. I'd rather have a more awesome death.
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So did I.


anyway it's so said your family dies from cancer. I'd rather have a more awesome death.

 >:( hey, you just said my dad, grandpa, his brothers, and basically anyone in my bloodline non awesome

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In case you didn't read the thread, the cure WASN'T found. It's a ludicrous exaggeration from a few experiments done with a drug tested on a single type of cancer.
My bad. But still doesn't excuse the fact that it's not being developed upon.
Are you dropping your work and giving your 100% effort to search for a cure for cancer ? if not you are hardly qualified to complain.
Not to mention this post is full of shit, because it is refering to not just mine but every post in this thread. It's like saying "you aren't involved or doing anything about it, so you can't criticize."
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Meh, he's just trolling :P
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But still doesn't excuse the fact that it's not being developed upon.
It's still being researched (and in the very early stages of research). Can't be 'mass developed and sold' yet, it hasn't even been tested for efficency on human beings!

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#78  May 22, 2011, 05:22:44 am
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So did I.


anyway it's so said your family dies from cancer. I'd rather have a more awesome death.

 >:( hey, you just said my dad, grandpa, his brothers, and basically anyone in my bloodline non awesome

I didn't say that but it's not an awesome death.
The most awesome death is jumping of on the space station and falling into the earths orbit.
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Die with cancer would be very sad. I don't know whether to call it 'not awesome' but I think to nobody would like to die suffering.
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dying slowly and suffering is not awesome

dying while saving the Earth from disaster in a giant robot, that's awesome
dying of a heart attack at age 80 while you have an orgy with the hottest chicks from every single country, that's awesome


but cancer? that is indeed not awesome
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#81  May 22, 2011, 08:54:12 am
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Mine was more awesome than yours  >:(
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Wanna know what's really awesome? NOT DYING! :P

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Immortality sucks dude. I wouldn't want to be immortal, it has too many consequences. Your memory's going to be shit because time is relative, so like a thousand years of life will distort your perception of time.
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I dunno. I'd go for 5000 years old (if I could stay in proper body/mind shape), for sure. Technology will probably solve any memory issues by then, and I'd love to see what the future has in store for humanity. 8)

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and I'd love to see what the future has in store for humanity. 8)

Haha, I wouldn't like see that, but obviously no death way is awesome, but if there is a nice way to die I think it would be sacrificing your life for someone you love  :) for example, donating vital organs or something...
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Immortality sucks dude. I wouldn't want to be immortal, it has too many consequences. Your memory's going to be shit because time is relative, so like a thousand years of life will distort your perception of time.

I'd reach nirvana long before that happens; dammit I only need to reincarnate in something that has a lfiespan longer than 30 years.
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Just remember guys. Even if we can cure cancer and stop people from aging; If you live long enough the flu will kill you.
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there is a cure for the flu but obama is hiding it