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#1  March 19, 2010, 01:00:01 am
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The man behind Street Fighter IV doubts that Capcom would want him to work on a Hyper Street Fighter IV after iterative Super Street Fighter IV hits stores this year. Instead Yoshinori Ono has something else in mind: Darkstalkers.

Asked what his next dream project would be during an interview last week, Ono first joked that it would be taking his wife of ten years to Disneyland.

There was, Ono told us, another fighting game series established shortly after he started at Capcom, a "little something called Darkstalkers you might know about."

"If I was given the resources and the permission to do so, I would love to make a new Darkstalkers more than anything," Ono said.

Because of the unique art style and transformations of characters the game would most likely need its own engine, but the art style, he said, would most likely mimic the visual style of Street Fighter IV.

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#2  March 19, 2010, 01:14:26 am
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#3  March 19, 2010, 01:37:21 am
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#4  March 19, 2010, 01:48:32 am
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OK but No Cut Characters from 3 and it is not a prequel and it's going to be rated M it has gore!

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#5  March 19, 2010, 03:34:51 am
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PlazerMouth said, March 19, 2010, 01:48:32 am
OK but No Cut Characters from 3 and it is not a prequel and it's going to be rated M it has gore!
I think Darkstalkers works as a T game (cartoony violence and blood). There's no need to make it Mortal Kombat.

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#6  March 19, 2010, 03:50:11 am
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You are right it doesn't need it but it does have gore in the past games not like MK but more like SS!

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#7  March 19, 2010, 03:58:08 am
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the art style, he said, would most likely mimic the visual style of Street Fighter IV.
Ewww. :( And even without looking SF4ish, Darkstalkers just wouldn't work in 3D.

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If they go the SF4 ish direction they need to horror it up more IMO

I am torn between wanting a really anime looking cartooney/dark game or a straight up dark gloomy horror game.

But as long as they choose either extreme with the looks I can see it working well.
Stateside the horror version would probably sell better. There are enough anime looking games on the market and it might visually get lost in them unless they do something really unique.

But I worry about it considering how they did SF4. Hopefully they would keep the game aggressive and NOT put the SF4 shortcut commands in!!!

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#10  March 19, 2010, 04:40:28 am
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felineki said, March 19, 2010, 03:58:08 am
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the art style, he said, would most likely mimic the visual style of Street Fighter IV.
Ewww. :( And even without looking SF4ish, Darkstalkers just wouldn't work in 3D.

Art style is not synonymous to game engine you know. The first words on that sentence specifically says it will be on a different engine entirely. We still don't know if it will be 2d or 3d at this point.

Just No Point said, March 19, 2010, 04:39:56 am
If they go the SF4 ish direction they need to horror it up more IMO

I am torn between wanting a really anime looking cartooney/dark game or a straight up dark gloomy horror game.

But as long as they choose either extreme with the looks I can see it working well.
Stateside the horror version would probably sell better. There are enough anime looking games on the market and it might visually get lost in them unless they do something really unique.

Darkstalkers has always been about comical anime style with it's characters and numerous animations. That's what people love with the game in the first place. It would seriously be a really bad step if they changed it and make it something like Borghi's The Blackheart. I myself would completely be against that idea.
Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 04:43:41 am by Mr. Scruffy Detective

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#11  March 19, 2010, 04:42:20 am
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Darkstalkers, far more than Street Fighter, is based around principles unique to 2D animation. The games are full of animations that would likely be awkward if recreated in 3D, that is if it can even possibly/feasibly be done.

JNP: The cartooniness is what made Darsktalkers unique. And the likelihood of difficulty in replicating that in 3D is what has me worried that they're going to throw it away and lose the fun spirit the originals had.
Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 04:46:07 am by felineki

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#12  March 19, 2010, 04:46:06 am
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something like the tatsucap engine, probably ?

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Almost forgot no CRAPPY ENGLISH CVs!

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I'm one of those people that hated SFIV being 3D, but I have to admit that a 3D Darkstalkers wouldn't be awful.

Mainly because when it came to the Street Fighter series, I knew that a 3D game wouldn't look too hot compared to Third Strike, which I still say has some of the finest graphic style and animation for a "classic" resolution fighter. (In my opinion at least.)

However, Darkstalkers..as much as I love the series, isn't known for having amazing graphics or animation. A move to 3D could be a GOOD thing.

I just hope that if it does happen they don't go the SFIV route and have like what...only 5 or so new characters?

Thankfully though Darkstalkers doesn't have as much of a OMG DUN CHANGE ANYTHING PLZZ fanbase as the Street Fighter II crowd, so that might not be a problem. ^_^
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#15  March 19, 2010, 05:00:23 am
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#16  March 19, 2010, 05:12:18 am
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MDI: You need to look at the animation in Darkstalkers in terms of something other than frame count. In terms of bizarre creativity, humor, and energy, it's really something.

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MDI said, March 19, 2010, 04:59:57 am
I'm one of those people that hated SFIV being 3D, but I have to admit that a 3D Darkstalkers wouldn't be awful.

Mainly because when it came to the Street Fighter series, I knew that a 3D game wouldn't look too hot compared to Third Strike, which I still say has some of the finest graphic style and animation for a "classic" resolution fighter. (In my opinion at least.)

However, Darkstalkers..as much as I love the series, isn't known for having amazing graphics or animation. A move to 3D could be a GOOD thing.

I just hope that if it does happen they don't go the SFIV route and have like what...only 5 or so new characters?

Thankfully though Darkstalkers doesn't have as much of a OMG DUN CHANGE ANYTHING PLZZ fanbase as the Street Fighter II crowd, so that might not be a problem. ^_^

Darkstalkers is best known for it's unique attack and gethit animations like electrocution, burn, Anakaris's curse, Midnight Bliss, Jedah's blood pumping, Bishamon's seppuku, etc.

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#18  March 19, 2010, 05:53:43 am
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Cel shading would look sweet.  It would help keep the bright anime style well.  Just look at morrigan from TvC. (:

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felineki said, March 19, 2010, 05:12:18 am
MDI: You need to look at the animation in Darkstalkers in terms of something other than frame count. In terms of bizarre creativity, humor, and energy, it's really something.

I know, I agree with you and MGbenz, but just think.. Street Fighter IV had a lot of "cartoony" features such as the facial expressions when hit and etc. I think that Darkstalkers would translate much better then say Street Fighter where that type of thing isn't as common.

Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE Darkstalkers 4 to be in 2D..but I'm just saying that seeing all the insane animations and such in 3D would also be awesome.
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#20  March 19, 2010, 06:53:12 am
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Thought I would offer my two cents on the 2d to 3d topic:

To be honest I would have never expected a game like Street Fighter to be good in 3d.  The way capcom handled the transition however was perfect.  The transition was very elegantly done in my opinion, yes the graphics are 3d, but any way you look at it, the game remains a 2d game in terms of game play and mechanics.  The art style also works for me because while some of the get hits might look "cartoony" to some, the fact of the matter is 3d offers a level of detail (in terms of facial expressions and such) that is just unattainable in 2d.  Besides the beautiful execution of those details, the most important thing that sold me on SF4's art style is the fact that all of our favorite Street Fighter's look unmistakably like themselves.  Something which I can imagine would have been pretty easy to royally fuck up.

Having said all that, I have an equally hard time imagining Darkstalkers in 3d as I did Street Fighter.  Which can only mean good things because capcom has already shocked me once.  If they go through with this I'm sure it will be masterfully executed.

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Personally I always found SFIV's artstyle to look like something out of an american comic book. Probably Image Comics or something.

Seriously, everyone is all super buff with these like square jaws and such. Haha.
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Quick...someone round up a petition to send to Capcom.

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#23  March 19, 2010, 09:36:23 am
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This would be so cool if it was in a more horror like style, and not cell-shaded. That would be awesome.

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#24  March 19, 2010, 11:51:27 am
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Im kinda in Anjel and JNP oppinion, whatever path they take, they need to be both extreme, and then slap it up with its own unique silyness.
A cute red riding hood running and screaming then whipping out a gun and actually looking pretty fucking scary.

tatsunoko shading leaves a lot to be desired, and a whole game just with a translation of the older games to new would look too bland.


now something that actually capitalizes on the vast backup material for the looks and details would look gorgeous.
The main problem is the transforming engine, coding wise, most games have models that have "everything on screen", that meaning that objects cant pop up without being on screen first, Ryu wont pull out a bag to hit his opponent unless the bag model is miniaturized inside him and increases size when about to be used or something.

Characters like raptor would need a specific engine  that adresses that. That he is already saying they are gonna build the engine around that means that the characters wont be simplified, all the better. =)




I wouldnt be surprised if she becomes a separate character from him.

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tvc's shading, texturing, etc. suck because of the wii's bad hardware.

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#26  March 19, 2010, 01:43:57 pm
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Oh I know about how awesome Darkstalker's crazy animations are ^_^ And I totally agree. Going with a horror theme wouldn't take away from the silliness at all IMO. They can still have a bit of mixture. Some bright stages, etc and even go really cartooney. Maybe addind some of the old horror genre camp in for good measure.

When I say the horror theme I'm merely going back to it's roots. The original game was supposed to be MONSTERS fighting. It had silliness but the art and atmosphere was shifted slightly more toward the monster side of it.

NW was a bit of a blend with it's art and added more silliness. VS added so much more crazy that Jedah was made to be the huge bind back to the original concept. Though the anime look of the art and the game itself by this point is my favorite. So I'm not saying I'd PREFER the darker horror theme. Just that it's one of the 2 visual styles I'd want. It merely gets more points for being unique.

The anime look will bring in more otakus and anime fans (which I am to a degree) but I don't think it would sell as well by being another cel shaded anime looking game. Unless they really REALLY put a lot of work to make the animations unique. Even then most US players would probably turn their nose due to the anime look.

(It'd be most awesome if they could make 2 different visual maps that you could select but that's insane thinking =D)

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#27  March 19, 2010, 02:02:37 pm
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Just a thought:  What about if instead of going for a purely dark horror or purely silly anime style, they could combine them together?  Perhaps they could give it an aesthetic feel of those really old, campy horror B-Movies from the '50s and '60s.  You know, something that that is ostensibly 'scary' and for the most part stays serious, but leaves enough wiggle room to add all of the crazy animations and things like that.  I think that could really work well.

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That's kinda what I was suggesting. They could class different characters into different categories. Demitri, Jedah would be in pure HORROR style for the most part. Hsien Ko, Q Bee would be in a middle category. Felicia, Lilith would be geared more towards comedy.

Just a few character suggestions. Add some camp here or there and place BBH in both extremes. Anime fans would be happy because most of their female characters could still look more anime (I mean that's all us anime fans need amiright) and they can market it using the different looks for each region. In the US focusing the marketing toward the horror characters.

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As long they don't limit the moves and think everybody has no fighting game experience I don't care if it's 2D 3D or 2.5D as long is not broken or rushed like those movie tie in games! I'm not being mean to Capcom or Ono-san as long they treat the series with respect and not treat it like some stupid joke! I just don't want any crappy CVs or any of the content cut or edited from the US version!
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K.O.D said, March 19, 2010, 11:54:52 am
tvc's shading, texturing, etc. suck because of the wii's bad hardware.

TvC is far from having the best graphics for a Wii game. You're being biased against the Wii as usual.
Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 04:16:44 pm by Mr. Scruffy Detective

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I like that Iced mentioned Raptor's MB form. Seriously, I wouldn't mind a clusterfuck of alternate costumes like KoF Maximum Impact 2 had. Hahaha. Except..if they did have "female forms" as alternates..it would be wise to change the voice too.

That female Jivatma with a man's voice was just disturbing..
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#32  March 20, 2010, 05:18:42 am
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MDI said, March 19, 2010, 08:12:39 pm
I like that Iced mentioned Raptor's MB form. Seriously, I wouldn't mind a clusterfuck of alternate costumes like KoF Maximum Impact 2 had. Hahaha. Except..if they did have "female forms" as alternates..it would be wise to change the voice too.

That female Jivatma with a man's voice was just disturbing..
I most certainly would not mind Meido Bulleta.

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Mr. Scruffy Detective said, March 19, 2010, 04:10:25 pm
TvC is far from having the best graphics for a Wii game. You're being biased against the Wii as usual.
the wii's hardware is bad compared to the hardware used by platforms in which sf4 was released. therefore bringing up tvc at all is pointless

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#34  March 22, 2010, 12:53:30 am
English VA's for Demitri and Felicia in Cross-Edge: bad and annoying. Newer and better English voices, please.

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I am glad to have not heard them then. But someone will probably slip them in somewhere now that I've said that just so I have to go through the suffering they did.

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I'm betting the "more than anything" line, is embellished. It was probably more geared toward as an afterthought. Like, If I were to do something else, it would have to be a dark stalkers game more than anything. Because obviously he did the Street Fighter series, they're not going to ask him to make a shmup.

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#39  March 23, 2010, 10:00:35 pm
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Didn't think it was that bad.

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#41  March 24, 2010, 05:50:20 pm
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Great to hear they're rebooting Darkstalkers. I missed out when the first game came out.

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#42  March 24, 2010, 05:51:06 pm
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rebooting? im hoping for a sequel not a reboot

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