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The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#1  April 02, 2013, 07:09:30 pm
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EDIT: This link was old, so check second page for updated link.

Original Release Topic - http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t853-the-incredible-hulk-release-ending-retirement

Apparently not even impending nuclear holocaust or the wrath of God can keep Ax away from MUGEN.

Haven't tried him yet, but looking into the char folder reveals a ton of Thor files, so it's most likely Axking's typical stuff - nice sprites and ideas, but borderline unplayable due coding.
This is how you recognize a character is polished or not : when small details are taken care of to provide the best experience possible.
Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 03:17:20 pm by Makurayami
Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#2  April 03, 2013, 11:41:03 am
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Haven't tried him yet, but looking into the char folder reveals a ton of Thor files, so it's most likely Axking's typical stuff - nice sprites and ideas, but borderline unplayable due coding.

You're absolutely right, it's horrendous.
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#3  April 03, 2013, 11:54:33 am
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#4  April 03, 2013, 02:16:55 pm
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All of Ax's releases are a "work in progress".  He honestly should just release sprite sheets instead of these shit coded characters he does.
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#5  April 03, 2013, 04:26:51 pm
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All of Ax's releases are a "work in progress".  He honestly should just release sprite sheets instead of these shit coded characters he does.

I'm thinking he does that on purpose to accentuate the idea that these are false idols :smug:

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#6  April 03, 2013, 07:40:57 pm
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whats up with the EXE file ?

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#7  April 03, 2013, 07:51:12 pm
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What EXE? I dl'ed it and there was none in there...
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#8  April 03, 2013, 09:31:26 pm
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strange, the 1st time i clicked the link it went over to an exe file when i tried to Dl it, but this time it came up a regular Download

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Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#9  April 04, 2013, 12:36:07 am
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Brief Feedback:

-clsns are a mess are per AxKing's usual
-intro is blah - static floating Hulk (assuming he's suppose to be landing from a jump) that just falls to the ground
-no animation in stance
-the additional MSH(?) text in there is annoying to me
-the LK (X basic attack since he does actually kick) animation looks too fast and probably needs more sprites
-several of the crouch basics need more sprites
-really easy to string his his basics and QCF+A/B/C into a combo causing 50%-100% damage
-Front dash will cause Hulk to go through the opponent
-no back dash
-damage dampener makes no sense - sometimes I do barely any damage, other times I'm able to easily do 50%-75% in a basic combo
-him moving forward when using his basics makes it easy just to mash one button and do 25%-50% damage

And probably more, but I'm bored with it already.
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#10  April 04, 2013, 12:43:39 am
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from what i read over at MM is that Ax is just releasing old works as open source to be modded by anyone willing too, kinda like how Red skull got touched up a bit the other day by another member of MM

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#11  April 04, 2013, 01:09:13 am
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So basically leaving his projects open to anyone else willing to take it.
All right then, but I wouldn't consider them proper characters if that's the case.

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#12  April 04, 2013, 01:46:46 am
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Ax is always trying to encourage others to finish/edit/mod his opensource characters so I don't really see this being any different then his other releases. 

The guy's honestly has talent in the spriting department, so I always hope that someone will pick up his stuff and re-do it.  Someone has already expressed interest in it in the Captain America topic, so hopefully his stuff starts getting picked up.  Leaving feedback here is more for whoever picks it up to finish it then AxKing himself.
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#13  April 11, 2013, 04:51:09 pm
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Was updated to include animated stance, new DL link in first post.
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Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#14  April 14, 2013, 05:22:35 am
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http://www.mediafire.com/?v7uh8up14dc7mwa (updated 4/9/13)

Original Release Topic - http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t853-the-incredible-hulk-release-ending-retirement

Apparently not even impending nuclear holocaust or the wrath of God can keep Ax away from MUGEN.

Haven't tried him yet, but looking into the char folder reveals a ton of Thor files, so it's most likely Axking's typical stuff - nice sprites and ideas, but borderline unplayable due coding.

Wow your'e not the smartest person on this forum are you?
If you had of decided to read the link you posted you may of learnt it was open source and wasn't really a full fleshed out playable (to your standards character)...no instead you like to insult a person before you have your facts.

This is why creators end up quitting mugen because of stupid comments made when it's not even critism it's just insults.
Alot of it is beta until a full update is released so then you really shouldn't complain, if you dont want the beta's then dont post the links here just to impress this community that you posted something...so if you dont like it dont download it.
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#15  April 14, 2013, 05:23:59 am
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#16  April 14, 2013, 05:30:24 am
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#17  April 14, 2013, 05:36:53 am
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You don't know Ax's history, do you?
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Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#18  April 14, 2013, 05:45:15 am
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You don't know Ax's history, do you?

Do i really need to know his history to see this guy is just coming to the mugen multiverse forum taking the release info posting it here then abusing it i've just gone over this forum looking at all the posts he's made and he's the one posting these all not even the creator's

So if they are that bad of a character, why is he posting them here?..answer is he's doing it to make fun or abuse this creator's work.

So if you want to fill me in what history that Axking has that's pissed off so many here then pm me and i may change my mind otherwise this looks like a witch hunt.
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#19  April 14, 2013, 05:50:50 am
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He's posting it because AxKing has gone open source and he wants the community to know.
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#20  April 14, 2013, 06:02:44 am
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He's posting it because AxKing has gone open source and he wants the community to know.

If that was the case why didn't he say even once in his first post mention that it was open source?
Because he just downloaded it and decided to post it without reading why it was released in this condition.

Then he later posts a feedback of a character that's just for open source purpose's?? i see no common sense if he knew this was just open source and not a full well made coded character.

Later he says it's open source but only once zombiebrock has pointed that out to him.
Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 06:27:20 am by REDBACKDEATH
Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#21  April 14, 2013, 07:14:18 am
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Wow, where to even start with this one...

Wow your'e not the smartest person on this forum are you?
If you had of decided to read the link you posted you may of learnt it was open source and wasn't really a full fleshed out playable (to your standards character)...no instead you like to insult a person before you have your facts. This is why creators end up quitting mugen because of stupid comments made when it's not even critism it's just insults. Alot of it is beta until a full update is released so then you really shouldn't complain,
Maybe if you knew Ax's history you would understand why I'm down on his releases (and why the nuclear bomb jab was in there).  Myself and others have given him tons of feedback in the past, but he always ignores it and just keeps releasing more characters, all with the same problems.  He's not a character creator, but a spriter who insists on releasing his work as badly coded characters instead of as sprite sheets. But no, you decided to be the ignorant one.  And Ax's releases are always the same - always open source, always betas, and always borderline unplayable.  Saying it's coding horribly isn't an insult, it's a damn fact.  I did acknowledge the quality of the sprite work, but apparently that flew over your head.  And I don't know if you realize this, but feedback is the reason why a beta gets released.  Even if its opensource, feedback is still needed for those that pick this up down the road.

if you dont want the beta's then dont post the links here just to impress this community that you posted something...
What?  This is a found release board, it's for community releases that the creators don't announce here.  I post stuff here for others that maybe didn't see it.  MFG is pretty much the biggest mugen site and is a representation of the community as a whole, so whenever I see something that wasn't announced I put it up in the found board.  Cause that's what it's for.  And posting links isn't impressive - it's copy and paste.

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so if you dont like it dont download it.
I always love when people use this argurment - I mean how am I supposed to know if I don't like something before I download it?  You must have some psychic mugen mind powers I'm unaware of :smug:

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Lol it's so funny how elitest this mugen community has become since i used to be apart of it back on mugenDev.
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Do i really need to know his history to see this guy is just coming to the mugen multiverse forum taking the release info posting it here then abusing it i've just gone over this forum looking at all the posts he's made and he's the one posting these all not even the creator's
MMV is release a ton of stuff right now and never announce it here.  So I post it in the found releases.  And no shit I'm not the creator.  Again, that's why it's FOUND releases. FOUND RELEASES.  FOUND, AS IN NOT MY OWN.  Jesus, can you even read?  I even post the original topics where it is released.  I post some feedback sometimes on the topics as well, but that's more since I refuse to post on Vzilla's website (MMV) and it typically finds its way back to the creators anyways.  What's the problem?  If a creator ever posts their own release topic, I always make a point to ask for a merge of the release topic I created.  I did that recently with chuchoryu.

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So if they are that bad of a character, why is he posting them here?..answer is he's doing it to make fun or abuse this creator's work.
So if you want to fill me in what history that Axking has that's pissed off so many here then pm me and i may change my mind otherwise this looks like a witch hunt.
Yes, because I'm that insecure with my life that I need to bash on others to make myself feel better.  Newsflash - without it being posted to sites that provide feedback, how is the author to improve?  Actually, I kinda answered why I posted this already when I said
Makurayami said:
I always hope that someone will pick up his stuff and re-do it

If that was the cause why didn't he say even once in his first post that it was open source?
Because he just downloaded it and decided to post it without reading why it was released in this condition.
Then he later posts a feedback of a character that's just for open source purpose's?? i see no common sense if he knew this was just open source and not a full well made coded character.
Later he says it's open source but only once zombiebrook has pointed that out to him.
Ax is always opensource.  I said that earlier in this topic.  Always.  It goes without saying, but excuse my your highness for not pointing that out in my first post.  Or you could just read that release topic I linked to there - oh gee, that's a thought.  And like I said earlier, someone's bound to pick this up one day, so why not post feedback?  It'll only help whoever decides to finish this later on.

So you come in here woefully unaware of any of Ax's history, apparently unaware that it's ok to post other creator's stuff in found releases, unaware of why feedback for a character is a good idea (hint: opensource stuff might be worked on down the road and it provides some starting point for the new creator), and then try to start arguments with C.A.N., IdahoGuy, MC2, and myself.  You're a fucking champ bro.  :getout:
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#22  April 14, 2013, 07:31:16 am
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Lol it's so funny how elitest this mugen community has become since i used to be apart of it back on mugenDev.

I have been in this community for about 9 years shortly before the fall of MugenDev so I can safely say that you are completely and utterly wrong.
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#23  April 14, 2013, 07:33:09 am
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If anything I would think the Mugen community has improved leaps and bounds, with most of the elitism devoted to petty Youtube videos and minor IRC chat drama.  It feels far more like we're an actual community now.
Re: The Incredible Hulk by AxKing
#24  April 14, 2013, 07:45:04 am
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First your missing the point when you say i'm unaware..i know you can post releases here and announce them that wasn't the point..point was you have some beef with this creator yet you still want to spread info about his work and comment how bad it is.

I'm well aware about it's ok to leave feedback..but once again you leave feed back for the creator not for the player yet i found not one post of your feedback you made thereat the website the creator could see and comment and improve his work...care to tell us why?

Actually i have no beef at all with the other posters here just with what you had first posted and all the other posts you have posted from the same forum...I was interested in what MC2 had to say because yes i dont know any history on Axking besides this religious thing he posts and it confused the hell out of me with weird conspiracy theory's and alot of stuff that tried so damn hard to convince you it was true when it had no basic's in fact when challenged.
And why was IdahoGuy even mentioned i dont even see this person in this thread?? talk about name dropping.

Listen you made a mistake you didn't explain the release was open source or beta in anyway you posted it as a release you even said you didn't even read or test it before posting but your mistake led others to believe it was something better then it really was.
Some shit must of went down here with you Axking and others but you really need to get over it and move on.
Like i said if you want to explain this situation abit better about Axking Pm me and i will listen to what it's all about then make my own judgement.

I;ve been away from mugen alot and just come on to help some players find characters from the old days, i've seen some nasty comments and a few creators badmouthing other creator's work when their work isn't that crash hot also so that's why the elitest comment was made and sorry if anyone took that abit offensive i will agree i've not been back enough to really make that comment so i will retract that statement.
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#25  April 14, 2013, 09:35:49 am
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First your missing the point when you say i'm unaware..i know you can post releases here and announce them that wasn't the point..point was you have some beef with this creator yet you still want to spread info about his work and comment how bad it is.
But I already told you I don't have "beef" with Ax.  Sure I think he's crazy, and yes his coding is shit, but his sprites are always nice and I post his stuff for others to pick up and finish.  Since he doesn't post it here on his own, why not let other MFG members know about?  I said this already, are you even reading my posts?

The comments about me not being the creators of MMV's stuff and accusing me of posting their stuff here for popularity (cause internet popularity matters) gave of the impression that you have no idea how the found release board functions.  Apparently you're retracting that now.

I'm well aware about it's ok to leave feedback..but once again you leave feed back for the creator not for the player yet i found not one post of your feedback you made thereat the website the creator could see and comment and improve his work...care to tell us why?
Ax doesn't fix stuff (literally never returns to update stuff he releases), the feedback is more for whoever picks this up to finish it.  But again, I said this already, are you even reading my posts?

Actually i have no beef at all with the other posters here just with what you had first posted and all the other posts you have posted from the same forum...I was interested in what MC2 had to say because yes i dont know any history on Axking besides this religious thing he posts and it confused the hell out of me with weird conspiracy theory's and alot of stuff that tried so damn hard to convince you it was true when it had no basic's in fact when challenged.
And why was IdahoGuy even mentioned i dont even see this person in this thread?? talk about name dropping.
For having no beef you seem incredibly argumentative.  Or maybe you just enjoy annoying others by white knighting. 

And IdahoGuy is using the display name Kaepora Gaebora right now - if you hover over his name you can see his real username.

Listen you made a mistake you didn't explain the release was open source or beta in anyway you posted it as a release you even said you didn't even read or test it before posting but your mistake led others to believe it was something better then it really was.
Some shit must of went down here with you Axking and others but you really need to get over it and move on.
Like i said if you want to explain this situation abit better about Axking Pm me and i will listen to what it's all about then make my own judgement.
I have no responsibility to post if it's open source or beta.  People can figure that out on their own.  That's why the original release topic is linked in the first post.  It's not my job to test things before posting them either.  This is an announcement, not a review.  People can try it on their own.  I was nice enough to let them know I hadn't tried it yet and gave them my initial reaction to just seeing the character folder.  I didn't mislead anyone on it be better then it is - if anything, I told them exactly what to expect when I mentioned the contents of the char folder looking like a hot mess.

And as for the Ax stuff, I really don't give a shit.  He was a crazy that was here for a bit and got himself banned.  If you're so curious about it, go look up his post history.
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#26  April 14, 2013, 10:36:24 am
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#27  April 14, 2013, 11:11:49 am
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#31  April 14, 2013, 01:12:25 pm
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#32  January 22, 2014, 03:16:14 pm
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#33  January 22, 2014, 03:28:15 pm
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Wow, dat stance :inquisitive:
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- after walking or running, when you go into the stance, it no longer animates
- the hyper port is not very good
- both little port and big port need to be standardized to default needs for people downloading. wrong size big port and little port face wrong direction
- sprite cleanup needed for the run, especially on the face
- no launcher, need to add one
- many basics attacks are infinite
- what is up with the mega pushback after the throw, crouching MP, and the charging attack. he'll do whatever and then appear on the far side away from P2
- crazy mega lag in the d,b,db+2P hyper
- standardize the damage numbers on the specials and hypers better. many don't do enough damage
- plz rename the template files
- get rid of all the template unused sprites
- the stance has a few sprite inconsistencies and needs facial movement
- would like a minimum of one more hyper added
- would like another 1 or 2 frames on the crouch and the crouching LP
- hulk disappears at the beginning of the d,db,b+2K hyper and stays in the crouch position too long
- whats going on with the blinking shadow
- d,db,b + punch special is and infinite
- d,db,b + kick can be an infinite if timed properly
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#34  January 22, 2014, 03:34:43 pm
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Yeah, that threw me for a loop too.  I had to double-take when reading the thread.
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#35  January 22, 2014, 03:35:05 pm
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Well, at least it looks like Volzilla is improving with feedback and gives pertinent ones now. Even though fiding bugs in Ax chars isn't really hard, that's still some huge progress. :yes:
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#36  January 27, 2014, 05:24:09 pm
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