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The P.o.t.S Standard
#1  October 17, 2010, 10:57:43 am
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Maybe Phantom of the Server's work is so good that anything similar to his custom cvs work is considered "POTS" even though his newer work is different from his older work (Not much but still).

If POTS starts using a completely different style, would people consider anything similar to that POTS style?

Another thought, what about other contributor's who are REALLY good. How come I don't see a new term named after them referring to their custom style?
First I was just a leech, then I edited the stuff I leeched, now I made something and contributed it.

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#2  October 17, 2010, 01:42:24 pm
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That's almost exactly what I said. P.o.t.S made a custom styled character good, first. So ever subsequent creation, whether it be his or not, is considered his style. It's completely impossible for anyone to have their own name. Adontcha know?

What this style should be praised for is the original game in which every feature it has is borrowed from. P.o.t.S didn't make any of this up, he just made the effects look better -- Not that there's anything wrong with that!

P.o.t.S styled is just a short way to say all those features he included without actually knowing what they are. I was hoping for something more than slightly different with this Kohaku by Kohaku, though. =(
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#3  October 17, 2010, 01:43:07 pm
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I think that you could consider POTS such an innovator that it's inevitable that any character with a custom Capcom style is gonna be compared to him.
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#4  October 17, 2010, 02:00:41 pm
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The two posts above me are among the saddest I've read on this board, and that's saying a lot. Especially coming from you Rajaa. Jesus I wish you people would give the man his cock back, it may as well be detachable at this point the way you guys suck it. God forbid you come up with a terminology more appropriate and go five minutes without discrediting someone on the merits of not being what you all seem to perceive to be a standard, even though it fucking isn't.

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P.o.t.S styled is just a short way to say all those features he included without actually knowing what they are.

context or no that's rather insulting to PotS. Jilted lover much?
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What.

All I said was that comparisons to POTS are inevitable when you make a custom CVS character.  I think that's pretty much a fact and nothing to get your panties in a bunch about.
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The two posts above me are among the saddest I've read on this board, and that's saying a lot. Especially coming from you Rajaa. Jesus I wish you people would give the man his cock back, it may as well be detachable at this point the way you guys suck it. God forbid you come up with a terminology more appropriate and go five minutes without discrediting someone on the merits of not being what you all seem to perceive to be a standard, even though it fucking isn't.
This post is amongst the saddest posts I've read on this board, and that's saying a lot. Especially coming from whoever you are.

None of us perceived it as a standard directly (A notion exists that it's a standard and that's what we're talking about right now. Wow, what's your problem). And nobody is discrediting anybody. We're talking about a controversy that exists in this community, the P.o.t.S perceived standard. What you're trying to do right now is act as if that notion doesn't exist, when it definitely does. You can't say something doesn't exist and say people are "sucking someone's dick" because they expressed their observation on the matter; what sense does that make? What you're doing is acting as if this is not real, and that it's all in our heads that people like to label others (and some people label themselves) as a P.o.t.S styled creator -- that's called self inflicted obliviousness, and it's a pretty bad habit. Open your eyes, everything's not as righteous as you want it to be.

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P.o.t.S styled is just a short way to say all those features he included without actually knowing what they are.

context or no that's rather insulting to PotS. Jilted lover much?

You can't read. My post clearly indicates that P.o.t.S style is a term for people (who know how his characters play) to use to describe his system choices even though they might not know exactly what those system features are. It's not insulting to P.o.t.S.

Reading comprehension.
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You're reinforcing a stupid notion in an attempt to justify it! What fucking sense does that make, besides to serve as an affirmation of said stupidity? You're being fickle for the sake of being right, don't you see the flawed logic behind that? It's enabling bullshit.
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#8  October 17, 2010, 02:34:17 pm
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Do I have to retype my PotS-Style rant?
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PotS' old creations weren't that good anyways.
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Why the fuck was my post deleted? It had feedback in it, unless we're going the IMT route where it's like "Oh you have to pretty up all your feedback otherwise it's flaming!"
It wasn't deleted. I was splitting the topic, and your post was in the bunch. I didn't want Kohaku's topic to get way off topic about stuff he doesn't care about.

You're reinforcing a stupid notion in an attempt to justify it!
How am I reinforcing it? I said since P.o.t.S was first, everyone else after him will just be considered his copy. Why would I reinforce an idea that I hate? Some people like to say I copy P.o.t.S too, when I, in fact, don't copy him, and I dislike when people say that. Many of the features of my characters were there in my characters before I even knew who P.o.t.S was. My first Dhalsim was a mess, but it still included those feature. As I cleaned up and got better, people begin to say i was copying P.o.t.S which, wasn't at all true. Why would I reinforce that against somebody else?

And that being said, I'm sure Kohaku intended to make his character with similar features to those chosen by P.o.t.S since he said he always wanted to when he started his character. Which is when the P.o.t.S standard kicks in, people use that term to describe those system choices he has chosen. What don't you understand about that, and how can you perceive that as "reinforcing"?

And you can't delete an idea, so that notion DOES exist, and it IS a standard notion. So stop denying that a P.o.t.S style exists. Even if the name doesn't accurately describe what's going on with creations concerning it, it exists.


What fucking sense does that make, besides to serve as an affirmation of said stupidity? You're being fickle for the sake of being right, don't you see the flawed logic behind that? It's enabling bullshit.
You're being stupid be denying that something exists when it does actually exist. I'm enabling what is, to be what is, even though logic doesn't need me to do so. You're being oblivious and saying that something doesn't exist when it does (for the umpteenth time).

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I think you could compare the "POTS style" fiasco to the music industry.  Look at the success of Nirvana back in the 90s.  After that, people had a newfound interest in grunge music.  Any band that attempted grunge was compared to Nirvana.  I feel this is a fairly accurate comparison, because POTS's character became some of the most popular in all of Mugen, and his style got very popular.  As a result, anyone who attempts CVS with a custom twist is bound to get compared to POTS, whether they are trying to emulate his style or not.

Now I suppose you could make a case for people who want to create exactly like POTS and use his name as a shield to excuse everything they do, but I think Jango has more to say on that than I do.
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Another thought, what about other contributor's who are REALLY good. How come I don't see a new term named after them referring to their custom style?
Try defining the term "The None's style" or "3ha's style". I don't really see how, apart from using the word awesome. :P
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#13  October 17, 2010, 03:01:11 pm
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Alright, here's the V2.0 rant of something I had on a deleted topic on Mugen Infantry

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS POTS-STYLE (OR POTS STANDARD)

Recently there's been an increase in individuals releasing incredibly shitty creations and all of them fallback on the PotS-style excuse. The problem with this argument is that there is no such thing as the "PotS-style" as you self-serving pricks call it. You're basically aping something that someone did, only you have no idea how to do it properly.

The problem with this argument is that PotS actually had an idea of what he was doing. He actually played the games he was converting from, he took the time to at least get accurate game data for a lot of moves (physics/damage/you name it), and in general wasn't fucking around and knew what he was doing. Now you have every numbnut under the sun trying to get a piece of that PotS action, but they go about it all wrong. The PotS-style, as people understand it, is just do whatever the fuck you want with every move (hell don't even play the game, just download a spritepack off of TDS' website), and throw in enough flash to give people retina damage. WOAH SHINY EFFECTS, HOW DID YOU DO THAT, DUDE! Easy, add ",,A" at the end of your spark's animation. Bam, instant shiny effect. Doesn't look so unique now does it, asshole?

Worse still of the "PotS-Style" isn't the system, or what people assume the system is. It's poor PotS himself. While I personally wouldn't put PotS on my top 10 list, he managed to be a really cool guy. He made characters that he wanted to make, he did them the way he wanted, and he helped anyone who needed help, even yours truly, who was one of his harshest critics. PotS never wanted to achieve the sort of fame he now "enjoys" (Yes, I actually asked him and close friends of his about it), and was just in it for the fun. In essense, he treated MUGEN the way it was supposed to be: A hobby.

Now you have all these other monkeys on the fence looking to get an easy ticket to fame by claiming that they're following PotS' system. I'm not going to point fingers at anyone, not only because it's rude, but also because it's so blatantly obvious as to who is doing it. Calling your character PotS-style is basically another way of saying that you're insecure as a creator and feel the need to hide behind someone people generally know. As a result, all of these negative aspects of this "copycat" system are associated with PotS' name. It's like he gets all the terrible shit of the MUGEN community pinned on him like a sacrificial lamb.

What makes it worse is that some of you meatheads are actually trying to STANDARDIZE THE WHOLE THING. But wait a minute. Isn't the whole point of MUGEN the freedom to create something you want to make? Why would you want to essentially limit yourself to a system that is allegedly the work of one guy? When you start to standardize something based on one person's creation, you kill off any chances of innovation, and actually giving yourself credit. Yes, you are the biggest victim of this "fad," because you lose your identity as a creator and are just thrown into another indiscriminate rabble of other creators.

Anyway, this has become tiresome. I'll close this with a quote:

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#14  October 17, 2010, 03:21:24 pm
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Try defining the term "The None's style" or "3ha's style". I don't really see how, apart from using the word awesome. :P
At least 3ha had a penchant for multiple selectable movelists (mostly based from other characters) in single characters, and that's pretty much it when it comes to common creation traits.
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#15  October 17, 2010, 03:41:19 pm
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There exists the notion of  P.o.t.S style, though; and even if definitively it isn't a correct term, colloquially to this community, it means characters that are similar to how P.o.t.S made his creations. That's stupid, of course, but I feel that it shouldn't be disregarded as a whole. As long as there's an idea, then there are people who have that idea -- all it takes is an idea, is what I always say.

I admit, I used the P.o.t.S labeling a few times. However, it was not until this recently that have I actually took the time to think about the reasoning behind my labeling, so excuse anything I may have said in the past about this issue as unthoughtful, unanalyzed garbage.



Contrary to what Reborn might believe, I don't like it as a perceived standard (I definitely am not enforcing it in anyway), but you have to deal with what is when you're trying to convince people, or express to people what actually is.

I agree with your post Jango. Just one thing:

Jango said:
Now you have all these other monkeys on the fence looking to get an easy ticket to fame by claiming that they're following PotS' system. I'm not going to point fingers at anyone, not only because it's rude, but also because it's so blatantly obvious as to who is doing it.
People's names should be mentioned, because if we're going to talk about this, then we need to provide examples and induce upon the attitudes of the people who knowingly do this P.o.t.S self labeling.


To move on:

There were people, for example, Hero, who labeled his characters as P.o.t.S and later he found out that that wasn't good enough to make him good. Thus, he has taken a break to redefine himself as a creator (I hope). He's a perfect example of why such labeling is bad. It's bad, but it's even worse for the creator, especially when they do the labeling themselves and fail at the results that are inherently attached to the label.

I had a criminology professor, very funny guy, and his class was rather boring, but he said something to me that I remembered forever. "Whenever you try to do something, explain something, or be somebody --  never label yourself; whenever you label yourself, people feel that they don't need to listen to you anymore because they have the preconceived notion of what you believe, what you think, and all the reasoning behind what you do." That is to say, a label is not good to place upon human beings, and people should leave themselves open, because that preconceived notion might be inflicted upon oneself, and one could believe that one actually knows oneself, which is rarely true to an extent.

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[TL;DR]

P.o.t.S style as an idea, it cannot be ignored but it has to be addressed -- I don't enforce such ideas - Let's address some actual poeple who do label - P.o.t.S labeling is stupid -- My criminology professor said something that I have remembered for a very long time -- People don't know themselves -- And next time on Dragon ball Z

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Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#16  October 17, 2010, 08:59:20 pm
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How am I reinforcing it? I said since P.o.t.S was first, everyone else after him will just be considered his copy. Why would I reinforce an idea that I hate?
At first I thought maybe the others weren't able to read sarcasm, but wait, you're serious? Reu says, "hi."

Some people like to say I copy P.o.t.S too, when I, in fact, don't copy him, and I dislike when people say that. Many of the features of my characters were there in my characters before I even knew who P.o.t.S was.
right, that's why you used the exact same effects at first and credited him in your readme

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#18  October 18, 2010, 12:50:47 am
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I get why Rajaa is so fucked over this whole thread. He makes his custom style characters, people say "lolpots", and his shit gets twisted. Personally, I don't use Rajaa's characters, so I can't say anything about what he used from PoTS when he started or what, but I will say that this whole POTS STYLE LOLOLOL debate is getting old.
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#19  October 18, 2010, 04:57:43 am
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#20  October 18, 2010, 05:20:54 am
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oh, POTs, one of my fav Authors, ive heard that his no longer making characters, wich is sad  :'(
I was hoping for a POTs Styled Blanka and even Felicia
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#21  October 18, 2010, 06:33:35 am
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At first I thought maybe the others weren't able to read sarcasm, but wait, you're serious? Reu says, "hi."
What are you talking about? You're not making any sense to me.

right, that's why you used the exact same effects at first and credited him in your readme
I've never credited him in my readme for effects! Lol. And you're right, I did use a few of the same effects: the power charge effects, the fire effects, and the blood sparks. You exaggerate, my friend. However, I was on about PotS' system, not PotS' effects. PotS used a nice type of effects that I wasn't able to make at the time, so I used his as a nO0o0ob.

Should I make a separate thread for Warusaki3's copycats? Nah, just messing with you. Lol. ;)

I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about this. It's just a name, right?
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#23  October 18, 2010, 06:47:20 am
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#24  October 18, 2010, 06:50:12 am
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I never liked Pots' Lei-Lei or Guy anyway >:(

also Kraken isn't in this so called standard either!
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#27  October 18, 2010, 07:08:54 am
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I would literally ROFL if someone created a felicia with censor bars covering her naughty parts (inspired by what those people did to her MVC3 picture)

Yes Capcom, you shall censor our love.

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That's MY damn job anyway. What is it you want me to do, again?


Phantom.of.the.Server was funky. So, Jmorphman, Rajaa... I gots to know: What makes you think you're so funky?
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#32  October 18, 2010, 09:35:24 am
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Now Pneophen-Style... THAT's a style I could get into.
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#33  October 18, 2010, 09:35:56 am
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#34  October 18, 2010, 11:13:11 am
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Why is there a p.o.t.s. standard? I mean... he wasn't THAT good of a coder.

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#36  October 18, 2010, 12:04:11 pm
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Um, Home32, I'm pretty sure the posting gimmicks are ONLY for General Discussion, especially if they have nothing to contribute outside of there.

Why is there a p.o.t.s. standard? I mean... he wasn't THAT good of a coder.
Probably the best way to describe this would be through analogy.

Think of the classic comedy movie, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Most critics find this to be one of the funniest movies ever made (I like Life of Brian better but to each his own), and the reason for this is that the humor is classic Monty Python. The basic setup is that the jokes are very simple, yet are drawn out and in essence become hilarious.

Now think about Eric Idle's Broadway Musical adaptation, Spamalot. The problem with the musical is that it becomes self-aware of the movie's jokes and in many cases spells them out to the audience. Rather than focus on the content of the humor, the audience gets a laugh out of the mere references to the movie.

Even though it is clearly inferior to the original, it is highly profitable because people don't care about the quality of the humor, because to them, the knee-jerk reactions to familiar content are what drive the show. This also accounts for Family Guy's popularity, in that merely having old pop culture references, they can get a laugh from the typical consumer.

Taking all that in mind, replace Holy Grail with PotS, and replace Spamalot with everyone that does PotS-style characters. PotS made a system that was generally good for his characters, and when people wanted to copy that style, they were unable to get the main core elements down but are still praised merely for referencing his works.
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#38  October 18, 2010, 01:34:44 pm
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Why is there a p.o.t.s. standard? I mean... he wasn't THAT good of a coder.
His stuff may not be perfect or bugless, but in the coding department, he really was good. His system stuff really has some neat coding tricks.
Now, if you think his game system is not good, that's a whole other issue.
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I will be crucified for this but I'm not very fond of POTS standard, sorry. The reason is I only like accurate characters and POTS are not very accurate (or as some say they're accurately edited, but still edited). I prefer accurate authors such as warusaki3, GM, muteki and so on.

But I still like some of POTS creations, most of his stages are nice but most of all I really like RareAkuma which at the same time a great work of art (and proof of mastery of mugen creation) and a parody of what's going wrong with all the ridiculous god characters.
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#40  October 18, 2010, 02:02:36 pm
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No need to apologize for your opinion, although saying warusaki3 is accurate is a bit of a stretch (see his CvS Ken, CvS Juni, CvS Jill, CvS Captain Commando, etc etc).

Just like my opinion is that 100% accurate works tend to be boring since if I really wanted 100% accuracy, I'd just play the original game. Before you call me a hypocrite for bashing people who don't try to get accurate game data, there's a difference between making a character "feel" right and just guessing, and part of the "feel" comes from move properties, physics, etc etc.
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And as you said, this is what makes POTS different from most of his copycats. His copycats take a random spritesheet, use POTS' system code for the effects and system stuff, but all the other stuff (vels, hitpauses, damage, etc.) are just guessed, since most of these copycats have never played the original games to begin with.
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#42  October 18, 2010, 02:43:11 pm
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What is P.o.t.s style? Can somebody sum it up, I seriously don't have his chars, other than his bonus stage character.
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#43  October 18, 2010, 03:11:43 pm
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Step 1- get all the moves from all the games the char was in
step 2- modify them and make them look good
step 3- joke moves
step 4- add in some advanced code, like a specially hard throw or something that makes it interesting or cinematic like addition
step 5- troll the guys that keep crying about graphics by spriting all his own edits and fx and then making them all opensource
step 6- interactive taunts and special winposes that react to other characters
step 7-thinly veiled jokes at people with thin skin that think they are bigshots
step 8- do funny stuff that makes you laugh and generally enjoy creating for the sake of creating
step 9- discard that beta and start a new one
step 10- ????
step 11- Profit.
step 12- continually refuse fame profits and hot chix/boyz thrown his way
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#44  October 18, 2010, 03:34:03 pm
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ahh, lot's of moves in one char, is it through mode select or just all in one char?

I don't really get step 10-12,
but I assume people offer their sex to P.o.t.s to get his betas...
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All in one char, using specials, EX, Lv1, Lv2 and Lv3 supers for variations when needed.
His chars have modes too, such as Ryu having Normal mode, Evil mode, and Master mode.

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#46  October 18, 2010, 03:41:06 pm
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@Iced

Here's another step:

Extra step: Be absent or simply vanish to increase the level of your cool mysterious reputation.
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#47  October 18, 2010, 07:30:06 pm
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Step 1- get all the moves from all the games the char was in
step 2- modify them and make them look good
step 3- joke moves
step 4- add in some advanced code, like a specially hard throw or something that makes it interesting or cinematic like addition
step 5- troll the guys that keep crying about graphics by spriting all his own edits and fx and then making them all opensource
step 6- interactive taunts and special winposes that react to other characters
step 7-thinly veiled jokes at people with thin skin that think they are bigshots
step 8- do funny stuff that makes you laugh and generally enjoy creating for the sake of creating
step 9- discard that beta and start a new one
step 10- ????
step 11- Profit.
step 12- continually refuse fame profits and hot chix/boyz thrown his way
Okay you're really reading too much into this.
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#48  October 18, 2010, 07:41:54 pm
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This topic is now about THE ALEXLEXUS STANDARD !!!

1. Sprite edit a Capcom character to add a cape, remove hair or darken skin, the base still being entirely recognizable.
2. Spend years coding only failing to realize you haven't progressed a bit in so called coding.
3. Release the "thing" you're proud of.
4. Get feedback by the whole community, who's quite disappointed by this alpha (which you considered a 100% version).
5. Release an update of your character (int version = version + 10%)
6. Get bashed by the whole community because the character is even worse than before.
7. Repeat steps 5 & 6 at least 10 times per character, while getting more and more defensive.
8. Make Youtube "shows" to explain how awesome you are and how others are assholes.
9. Have Capcom steal your concepts and sue them, while trying to enter the gaming industry.
10. ????
11. GO YOUR WITH YOUR BITCH FUCKING ALLADIN MOTHERFUCKER
12. Copy paste your whole shitty code into a new folder (don't rename the files) and replace your shoto sprites for other shoto sprites, and call it a new character.
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#49  October 18, 2010, 08:05:25 pm
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I think you're making big something it was small, IMO.

Everyone who has create something for MUGEN (since a palette to a full game that isn't a compilate) has their own way to create stuff, some make accurate chars as possible (KOF creators), others create original things, and others like POTS made characters by his own way. Every crator who deserves that title has his/her/its own style of making characters, and there're others who were marveled with them and followed creating in the same way than their idols.

Well, I've to tell you something. I made stuff like POTS before he started in MUGEN and in nowhere says there's a Basara style/standard, since I took old-school characters and give them a megamix of moves from all games they becomed (my PI chars, Shura, Joe Kusanagi, etc). POTS also made this (which isn't new, guys... even before me there's people who made this) but with Capcom characters, coming from CVS2 or not, and added CVS/flashy FX. The base is the same, it's just to know well the character you're making, no matter if it's accurate or a megamix. I admire POTS and his creations, but that doesn't mean I should make characters as his style, because is HIS style, my style was established long time ago...

Also, not all the idols gave good examples to their followers. Think about it, if Reu wasn't created the Evil Duo, MUGEN would be not full of evil/overpowered shotoklones as is until now. And if you don't like my opinion, just read this Alelexus standard line:
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#51  October 18, 2010, 08:48:53 pm
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Because my FX aren't flashy?? Boooooo, that's not fair :(
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#55  October 18, 2010, 10:04:10 pm
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It's sad that this thread died out, POTS rocks.
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#56  October 18, 2010, 10:05:32 pm
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Someone`s forgot [/joke] tag
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#58  October 18, 2010, 10:11:23 pm
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My bad, I forgot that... I'm slow at thinking last time...

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#59  October 18, 2010, 10:21:01 pm
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Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#60  October 19, 2010, 12:28:12 am
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Iced said:
Step 1- get all the moves from all the games the char was in
step 2- modify them and make them look good
step 3- joke moves
step 4- add in some advanced code, like a specially hard throw or something that makes it interesting or cinematic like addition
step 5- troll the guys that keep crying about graphics by spriting all his own edits and fx and then making them all opensource
step 6- interactive taunts and special winposes that react to other characters
step 7-thinly veiled jokes at people with thin skin that think they are bigshots
step 8- do funny stuff that makes you laugh and generally enjoy creating for the sake of creating
step 9- discard that beta and start a new one
step 10- ????
step 11- Profit.
step 12- continually refuse fame profits and hot chix/boyz thrown his way

I like how he gets away with the 4chan shit.

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Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#61  October 19, 2010, 12:37:53 am
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You just mad.
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#62  October 19, 2010, 12:39:19 am
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the dumb ??? profit meme isn't anywhere as stupid as posting a bunch of encyclopediadramatica links or coolface.png
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#63  October 19, 2010, 12:44:09 am
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Just so you know those POTS copycat dudes, they make the character to make the combos
broken, just like Hero does.
Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#64  October 19, 2010, 12:46:13 am
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Iced said:
Step 1- get all the moves from all the games the char was in
step 2- modify them and make them look good
step 3- joke moves
step 4- add in some advanced code, like a specially hard throw or something that makes it interesting or cinematic like addition
step 5- troll the guys that keep crying about graphics by spriting all his own edits and fx and then making them all opensource
step 6- interactive taunts and special winposes that react to other characters
step 7-thinly veiled jokes at people with thin skin that think they are bigshots
step 8- do funny stuff that makes you laugh and generally enjoy creating for the sake of creating
step 9- discard that beta and start a new one
step 10- ????
step 11- Profit.
step 12- continually refuse fame profits and hot chix/boyz thrown his way

I like how he gets away with the 4chan shit.
Lmao, that was pretty dumb.  Good going with referencing south park.
If you cant see the difference between linking to ed to tell a girl that you hope someone cums on her and using a harmless joke, there is little hope there.


Also, jz, that was the joke >=C
Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 12:52:06 am by Panty (from the anime)
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#65  October 19, 2010, 01:37:48 am
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I'm trying to figure out why P.O.T.S has/deserves two threads in the same section.

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#66  October 19, 2010, 01:41:21 am
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Iced said:
Step 1- get all the moves from all the games the char was in
step 2- modify them and make them look good
step 3- joke moves
step 4- add in some advanced code, like a specially hard throw or something that makes it interesting or cinematic like addition
step 5- troll the guys that keep crying about graphics by spriting all his own edits and fx and then making them all opensource
step 6- interactive taunts and special winposes that react to other characters
step 7-thinly veiled jokes at people with thin skin that think they are bigshots
step 8- do funny stuff that makes you laugh and generally enjoy creating for the sake of creating
step 9- discard that beta and start a new one
step 10- ????
step 11- Profit.
step 12- continually refuse fame profits and hot chix/boyz thrown his way

I like how he gets away with the 4chan shit.
Lmao, that was pretty dumb.  Good going with referencing south park.

Except South Park didn't use three question marks and this is a place where you could format it to look like it did there.
Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#67  October 19, 2010, 03:06:49 am
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Well P.o.t.S surely inspired alot of people but as Basara said this "so called" P.o.t.S style existed long before he started making characters, but it didn't have proper name and it wasn't a fad like today. I don't really understand what this thread is all about...

I love his creations & without joke I can say these are pulled me in Mugen as general thing. I don't mind if people try making similar stuff to him, because he was very good coder & if you base on something good, then your character can be, in worse case scenario, only half shit :P I'm very happy we have Jmorphman too who can bring to us chars who are fairy close to P.o.t.S stuff. BTW chars with similar gameplay are mostly different from Po.t.S creations and it's not like everbody make such characters too so I don't see a problem. Originality & uniqueness won't fall for sure, if thats what you are worry about.

People should stop categorizing things & should play more Mugen, do something for fun or simply get a life instead arguing about such useless things really...

P.S. One thing I find funny about P.o.t.S is the fact he replaced Reu in title of creator who appearing in credit list most often. Lucky for us Cybaster is chasing him fast so he might lose this title soon  ;P



 
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WI'm very happy we have Jmorphman too who can bring to us chars who are fairy close to P.o.t.S stuff. BTW chars with similar gameplay are mostly different from Po.t.S creations and it's not like everbody make such characters too so I don't see a problem.
Yeah, Jmorphman is one of the few that does it right. It's also worth noting that he was actually chosen to finish a cancelled PotS WIP (IIRC), so that should say something about his ability.

P.S. One thing I find funny about P.o.t.S is the fact he replaced Reu in title of creator who appearing in credit list most often. Lucky for us Cybaster is chasing him fast so he might lose this title soon  ;P
No it's going to be me. I'm going to be so goddamn helpful you motherfuckers will credit me in everything you do.
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It's also worth noting that he was actually chosen to finish a cancelled PotS WIP (IIRC), so that should say something about his ability.
Personal request by TMasta.

Lucky for us Cybaster is chasing him fast so he might lose this title soon  ;P
LOL, how am I chasing POTS !? I release a character every 3 years. :o
Unless you meant stage wise, thanks to my Automatic Stage tool ?  Or is it the feedback ?
Whatever, everybody will suck me even more once I release Goku !!! (unless people chose to do Balthazar, who lokes like a good choice too :woeh:)
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#70  October 19, 2010, 10:40:51 am
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I'm still proud of that post. But what south park reference did i mention?

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#71  October 19, 2010, 10:47:15 am
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Everyone knows P.O.T.S. is awesome because he's brazilian. Anyone who speaks portuguese is awesome.

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#72  October 19, 2010, 10:49:13 am
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Besides the ones that aren't portugese, AMIRITE?




i'm sorry zvitor. :-(

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I don't watch south park enough to know the references.

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#74  October 19, 2010, 10:51:29 am
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#75  October 19, 2010, 10:53:27 am
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Is true.
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#76  October 19, 2010, 10:54:19 am
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... you do know he is from lisbon, right

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#77  October 19, 2010, 10:56:14 am
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 :omg:

You serious? Ainda se fosse do Porto. Agora Lisboa. *cough* >.<
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#78  October 19, 2010, 10:56:35 am
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Z or pots?

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#79  October 19, 2010, 10:59:14 am
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WAIT A GODAMN MINUTE

Then why is POTS' email yahoo.br?

 >:(


EDIT: Nvm, just checked his profile. D:

*tears* I'm so proud of being PT.  :smitten:
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Lady GAHGAH what.
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#82  October 19, 2010, 12:46:50 pm
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P.O.T.S. is Lady Gaga? That explains fucking everything.

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Re: The P.o.t.S Standard
#83  October 19, 2010, 04:30:44 pm
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Alexlexus is actually pots in blackface. He's releasing his TRUE creations. Everyone who doesn't see the beauty of his efforts in creation, which the spirit of mugen is all about, will have their characters turn into Kong characters.

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