I never did understand why after Kof 01 or 02 why "Kusanagi" was so popular among people? I don't get it?! People making their own version that may not be any different from the left to right but whats the deal?
Bec. he's just awesome? Well, I dunno. I really didn't care much about the char. before his appearance in 2k3. That's when he became relevant and when they reinvented him in 2k2UM making him much more sinister, he became a really interesting character.
But what is the "real" difference other than him I guess having some of Kyo's original moves on him and a darker skin color, what is it about him thats so damn special?! He's nothing but a clone whether he was made by Chizuru or not, he's no diff from those Kyo clones in 99?
Byakko said, March 27, 2009, 11:55:23 pmHe's DARK, he's a BAD BOY. Anti-heroes are popular.DARK?! WHAT?! Alright I never really have played 02 or 03 because they never really made it over seas due to pricing, but seriously it's because he's "Dark"?
Just listen to how he yells like he's going to tear your guts out through your ears. Ingame, he's more unique than the other because he actually has a different voice actor.
Killer King said, March 27, 2009, 11:40:08 pm"Kusanagi" was so popular among peopleThat may be stretching it a bit, people always preferred Kyo with chains.
Well, he's popular, not necessarily more popular than the real Kyo. But then again, Kyo doesn't do much anymore, storywise, it's almost as if he's just here. Kusanagi is linked with the whole NESTS thing, which just got a boost with Nameless. So I'd think that storywise, he's getting more popular than Kyo himself. Of course, that has nothing to do with their respective movesets.
Byakko said, March 27, 2009, 11:59:43 pmJust listen to how he yells like he's going to tear your guts out through your ears. Ingame, he's more unique than the other because he actually has a different voice actor.Byakko got it. The MAIN reason people like Kusanagi: His voice is BADASS.
Jesuszilla said, March 28, 2009, 12:12:09 amByakko said, March 27, 2009, 11:59:43 pmJust listen to how he yells like he's going to tear your guts out through your ears. Ingame, he's more unique than the other because he actually has a different voice actor.Byakko got it. The MAIN reason people like Kusanagi: His voice is BADASS. .......if thats the case..........THATS FUCKING STUPID! Becuase of a new freak'n voice over?!
Uh ? The voice makes the character. What kind of things could you like a character for ? For his personnality - that's his voice. If his voice is badass, then the character is badass. Is "he's badass" not a good enough reason for you ??
You'd be surprised how big a difference voice can make. See also: Alex in Second Impact as opposed to Third Strike. Would you rather play him sounding like Michael Jackson or the one that could sound badass even if he sang little bunny foo foo?
characters in games are defined by little, you got their moves, their sprites and their voice.He already had good moves, his sprites were alright, his voice tipped the scale.I like K9999 for his voice and hated his spriteset, for instance.
Blair dame's ubber annoying voice.Athena's small outfits change even though she is basically the same in all kofs.
.........you might a have slightly good points there BUT what would be the diff if you gave that very same voice over to Kto 03 or XI?! HUMM ?!
Why do you ask that when:Byakko said, March 28, 2009, 12:06:32 amhe's popular, not necessarily more popular than the real Kyo.
Killer King said, March 28, 2009, 12:35:19 am .........you might a have slightly good points there BUT what would be the diff if you gave that very same voice over to Kto 03 or XI?! HUMM ?!Look, if you have a fucking beef with a character from a game, nobody gives a crap. You ask why some people like him, this is the answer you're getting. If you SOMEHOW still get pissed at it, at us, take a hike.
WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE IORI YAGAMI, HE DRESSES LIKE A FAG AND HE WEARS HIS HAIR LIKE A EMO. EMORI FAGAMI IS MORE LIKE IT.
Why does everyone likes Wild Tengu all he does is bitch and be annoying... ah wait, nobody likes Wild Tengu.
Byakko said, March 28, 2009, 12:53:49 amKiller King said, March 28, 2009, 12:35:19 am .........you might a have slightly good points there BUT what would be the diff if you gave that very same voice over to Kto 03 or XI?! HUMM ?!Look, if you have a fucking beef with a character from a game, nobody gives a crap. You ask why some people like him, this is the answer you're getting. If you SOMEHOW still get pissed at it, at us, take a hike.K dude if I had beef with a "a character" from a "video game" that would be weird and creepy and pretty much sayI have no life, but I'm not pissed at anyone, it just doesn't make any sense so chill out.
Jesuszilla said, March 28, 2009, 12:12:09 amByakko said, March 27, 2009, 11:59:43 pmJust listen to how he yells like he's going to tear your guts out through your ears. Ingame, he's more unique than the other because he actually has a different voice actor.Byakko got it. The MAIN reason people like Kusanagi: His voice is BADASS.badass voice... better moves. classic clothes, rude...he's better than the original "good boy" kyo
Wild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 02:26:59 amKusanagi would of been more badass if he wasn't dressed like a wee school boy. yeah, I agree... if he got other clothes, or at least some few details changed on the actual ones would be better... but sometimes bring nostalgia, and that's why I like it
Wild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 02:26:59 amKusanagi would of been more badass if he wasn't dressed like a wee school boy. Could be worse, could be like those bad HK KOF comics where one of the Kyo clones dressed like Clone Zero with Igniz's tentacles instead of the cape blades. That was just... odd... Speaking of voices, wtf happened to O Zero? His new voice sounds awful, he seems like a teen now instead of a badass NESTS executive
Wild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 01:01:14 amWHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE IORI YAGAMI, HE DRESSES LIKE A FAG AND HE WEARS HIS HAIR LIKE A EMO. EMORI FAGAMI IS MORE LIKE IT. The usage of "fag" and "emo" is hilarious. Wait, no it isn't, it's just retarded and obnoxious.
KaiserPhoenix said, March 28, 2009, 02:36:13 amCould be worse, could be like those bad HK KOF comics where one of the Kyo clones dressed like Clone Zero with Igniz's tentacles instead of the cape blades. That was just... odd... Kyo-3 from KoF OX (Ome extreme) they also had Kyo-0 (A loned Kyo with Krizalid's outfit) in KoF Zillion.KaiserPhoenix said, March 28, 2009, 02:36:13 amSpeaking of voices, wtf happened to O Zero? His new voice sounds awful, he seems like a teen now instead of a badass NESTS executive Uh... he sounds like an old guy instead of a teenager.I agree though, horrible voice.nio said, March 28, 2009, 02:02:17 amhe's better than the original "good boy" kyo You're an idiot.Compared to Terry and Ryo, '94-'95 Kyo was cocky as fuck, and he wasn't a generic "good guy" (Guess what? Kusanagi is a reflection of how cocky and rude was old Kyo, he changed when Goenitz kicked his ass, pre-96 tournament, Kyo realized he needed a clear mind [most likely an excuse for the different move list] instead of pure rage to fight, pretty much like Domon Kasshu's change from Super to Hyper mode in G-Gundam)Finally, I'd like to quote this for emphasis:Byakko said, March 28, 2009, 12:53:49 amLook, if you have a fucking beef with a character from a game, nobody gives a crap. You ask why some people like him, this is the answer you're getting. If you SOMEHOW still get pissed at it, at us, take a hike.Killer King is a retard.
Wild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 02:26:59 amKusanagi would of been more badass if he wasn't dressed like a wee school boy. I never got why they cloned the school clothes too. Like the Chizuru explanation better.
QuoteCompared to Terry and Ryo, '94-'95 Kyo was cocky as fuck, and he wasn't a generic "good guy" (Guess what? Kusanagi is a reflection of how cocky and rude was old Kyo, he changed when Goenitz kicked his ass, pre-96 tournament, Kyo realized he needed a clear mind [most likely an excuse for the different move list] instead of pure rage to fight, pretty much like Domon Kasshu's change from Super to Hyper mode in G-Gundam)Don't know if it's cannon, but I recall reading somewhere that in a certain manga, Kyo would start changing his attitude after getting his ass kicked by some regular guy in his school, thanks to the lack of control he had in his flames. That's also why he started to develop his chains, to rely less on throwing flames around. He didn't changed too much anyway, he still has those arrogant win quotes. Kusanagi in the other hand doesn't really define cocky nor rude, he is more like a berseker (2002 Kusanagi, that is).
Graham Aker said, March 28, 2009, 02:55:28 amKaiserPhoenix said, March 28, 2009, 02:36:13 amCould be worse, could be like those bad HK KOF comics where one of the Kyo clones dressed like Clone Zero with Igniz's tentacles instead of the cape blades. That was just... odd... Kyo-3 from KoF OX (Ome extreme) they also had Kyo-0 (A loned Kyo with Krizalid's outfit) in KoF Zillion.KaiserPhoenix said, March 28, 2009, 02:36:13 amSpeaking of voices, wtf happened to O Zero? His new voice sounds awful, he seems like a teen now instead of a badass NESTS executive Uh... he sounds like an old guy instead of a teenager.I agree though, horrible voice.nio said, March 28, 2009, 02:02:17 amhe's better than the original "good boy" kyo You're an idiot.Compared to Terry and Ryo, '94-'95 Kyo was cocky as fuck, and he wasn't a generic "good guy" (Guess what? Kusanagi is a reflection of how cocky and rude was old Kyo, he changed when Goenitz kicked his ass, pre-96 tournament, Kyo realized he needed a clear mind [most likely an excuse for the different move list] instead of pure rage to fight, pretty much like Domon Kasshu's change from Super to Hyper mode in G-Gundam)Finally, I'd like to quote this for emphasis:Byakko said, March 28, 2009, 12:53:49 amLook, if you have a fucking beef with a character from a game, nobody gives a crap. You ask why some people like him, this is the answer you're getting. If you SOMEHOW still get pissed at it, at us, take a hike.Killer King is a retard.Rather be ratarded than a bitch any day, so whats up ?!
Nah I think the '96 prologue thing is canon, If I recall correctly it was KoF96's Japan team background story.Ditto about cloning with school outfit, what the heck. At least some of the HK manga clones had NESTS outfits (Zero or Krizalid outfit, whatever)At least Heidern gave the clones a different outfit IIRC.Speaking of which, the clones that Heidern saved and used as a special ops team should be alive, so...uh, one or two could appear in KoF XIII.Killer King said, March 28, 2009, 03:08:47 amratardedSure.
Well after, 98 Kyo was still in school. He dropped out after NESTS cloned him. So that can be a reason why all his clones wear a school uniform. Kyo changed his attire to look different, show hes the original. Thats also probably why he burned his bandana and dropped out of school because NESTS was after him.
Omegalord99 said, March 28, 2009, 03:29:47 amWell after, 98 Kyo was still in school. He dropped out after NESTS cloned him. So that can be a reason why all his clones wear a school uniform. Kyo changed his attire to look different, show hes the original. Thats also probably why he burned his bandana and dropped out of school because NESTS was after him.That would make sense and explain a lot more of the crazy-ness of the NEST saga....
QuoteYou're an idiot.Compared to Terry and Ryo, '94-'95 Kyo was cocky as fuck, and he wasn't a generic "good guy" (Guess what? Kusanagi is a reflection of how cocky and rude was old Kyo, he changed when Goenitz kicked his ass, pre-96 tournament, Kyo realized he needed a clear mind [most likely an excuse for the different move list] instead of pure rage to fight, pretty much like Domon Kasshu's change from Super to Hyper mode in G-Gundam)hahaha... I never say he was a generic char... so don't put words on my mouth...second... kyo (old one) was cocky, but not much that rude, you could easily target him like the "good guy" on the game... no matter what...Ryu has some cocky quotes when he defeats you...but I still see him like a "good guy" and also, make a comparision of old Kyo and Kusanagi, and the new one is more rude than kyo was...you are an idiot too...
Graham Aker said, March 28, 2009, 03:28:57 amDitto about cloning with school outfitSomeone in NESTS had a fetish for school uniforms.nio said, March 28, 2009, 04:13:38 amyou are an idiot too...No, YOU are an idiot.
Kusanagi is awesome, he's finally got his own exclusive DM in 02 UM which makes him more badass.and yes, many people (like myself) like him more than the real kyo.
They should've given Kusanagi a different MAX2, Mushiki is just... meh, I mean, Kyo-2 has it as a SDM.nio said, March 28, 2009, 04:13:38 amhahaha... I never say he was a generic char... so don't put words on my mouth...Hahaha, IRONY.I never said he was a "generic character" I said generic GOOD GUY.When he appeared in '94 he was far from your stereotypical good guy (Clear enough? or do you need an explanation in spanish, because you sure as fuck can't read english)nio said, March 28, 2009, 04:13:38 amsecond... kyo (old one) was cocky, but not much that rude, you could easily target him like the "good guy" on the game... no matter what...You're basing that premise in the fact that you already know his story up to KoFXI, GOOD JOB.First off, Terry was supposed to be the lead in KoF94 (The lead of the game always appears in the HOW TO PLAY screen, guess what?)Second, sure, I can "target him" (Kyo) like the good guy before finishing the first game, right? I mean, especially after hearing/reading the translation of whatever he says during his special moves, am I right? Wrong.SAME THING APPLIES TO KUSANAGI, he has the same type of winquotes (And again, he's a reflection of early Kyo, that is, 2003/Canon Kusanagi)Sure, he's demonic in 02/02UM, which is a dream match.nio said, March 28, 2009, 04:13:38 amRyu has some cocky quotes when he defeats you...but I still see him like a "good guy" Ryu? Cocky quotes? WHEN? Show me a quote (You obviously won't)The guy isn't cocky he's blunt and honest, but still honorable.
in kof 2002 ARCADE i never used kyo and always used kusanagi with the cheat , because he had the best things of kyo 98 and 95. Wich were the best kyos ever for me, i played those games that much years ago a lot, never in an emulator. KOD were like 6-5-4 years old then .
Bastard Wolf said, March 28, 2009, 05:13:14 amGraham Aker said, March 28, 2009, 03:28:57 amDitto about cloning with school outfitSomeone in NESTS had a fetish for school uniforms.nio said, March 28, 2009, 04:13:38 amyou are an idiot too...No, YOU are an idiot.and here comes the stryker hahaha... well, first of all I don't plan to fight just for an opinion (that we don't share)...about the terry example... mmhhh.. I don't care if he was the lead char of kof94, that doesn't explain to me if kyo is or is not cool compared to kusanagi... xDI better stop here, cause everything we could debate about it would be more an opinion than a fact...KUSANAGI ROCKS!!!about Ryu, I have always find this winquote rude, but again...to stop "drama" it depends on people visoin, cause maybe you see that winquote like something honest and honorable (I don't)
Omegalord99 said, March 28, 2009, 03:29:47 amWell after, 98 Kyo was still in schoolHe was still in high school in '97. '98 doesn't happen, it's a Dream Match. He was taken by NESTS for over a year at the end of the '97 tournament, after he beat Orochi, and comes back only in '99, obviously having dropped out of school.Quoteabout Ryu, I have always find this winquote rude, but again...to stop "drama" it depends on people visoin, cause maybe you see that winquote like something honest and honorable (I don't)........... I have this move that is my biggest weapon. If you take it in the face, usually, you're going down. So yeah, if you can't beat that move, you'll have a hard time beating me, because I sure as hell am going to use it, and when I use it, you're going down. So if you want to beat me, you should come up with something to beat that move.Just saying "you don't stand a chance" would be cocky, but he's basically telling his opponent what to do to win here.Oh, and you're an idiot, taking for granted what you know happens afterward when discussing what was going on when a character first appeared.
Wild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 01:01:14 amWHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE IORI YAGAMI, HE DRESSES LIKE A FAG AND HE WEARS HIS HAIR LIKE A EMO. EMORI FAGAMI IS MORE LIKE IT. You dislike him, yet you use him in some of your vids. Technically you also made a Christmas special about Iori.
nio said, March 28, 2009, 10:41:44 am"drama"That word is thrown around too much (like "trolling"). Drama is throwing a fit or pouting when you can't control people (manifests in Mugen through closed sites and the like), this here is just the random Internet argument.
greenday said, March 28, 2009, 05:03:23 pmYou dislike him, yet you use him in some of your vids. Technically you also made a Christmas special about Iori. Bastard Wolf said, March 28, 2009, 05:05:22 pmWild Tengu is tsundere for Iori.Hum, wasn't WT's post on Iori a parody of this topic ?
greenday said, March 28, 2009, 05:03:23 pmWild Tengu said, March 28, 2009, 01:01:14 amWHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE IORI YAGAMI, HE DRESSES LIKE A FAG AND HE WEARS HIS HAIR LIKE A EMO. EMORI FAGAMI IS MORE LIKE IT. You dislike him, yet you use him in some of your vids. Technically you also made a Christmas special about Iori. Iori is my joke character.
because..his voice is strange and he is the old Kyo encarnation...I think the old was better than the new..
P.o.t.S. said, March 28, 2009, 05:10:31 pmnio said, March 28, 2009, 10:41:44 am"drama"That word is thrown around too much (like "trolling"). Drama is throwing a fit or pouting when you can't control people (manifests in Mugen through closed sites and the like), this here is just the random Internet argument.wow, you just have make an step forward the average human being. Go on little grashopper.Being called a troll is an insult and a privilege at the same time.
Stop posting, you drama troll ! Kusanagi is great because of his badass voice. And the Mugen edits are even greater because of the red eyes. Yeah, red eyes make the character more Eviler !!!
What about Violent Ken ? He's badass because of his voice, his Exceed AND his stance !!! Ain't that SUPER BADASS ??!!
i like iori yagami, he's badass.Unfortunaly he could wear some sort of special force clothing let's say, like Hank of Resident Evil, with a rebelling touch, and give him a bit deeper voice.... ok his voice is ok how it is.When i think that i'm good enough to draw something decent, i'll show you! :3And the better thing would be if he could be more speed based, due to his slash attacks and so on, don't it?It's just my opinion tough sorry to be offtopic, but Wild Tengus comment about Wild Tengu was annoying me in some sort of way that i feelt myself provoked to say something.
As someone who has never played KOF can someone give examples of the voice acting between "Kusanagi" and Kyo?
Kyo's sounds : http://kod.trinitymugen.net/kyo2003sounds.rarKusanagi's sounds: http://kod.trinitymugen.net/kusanagisounds.rarKyo's voice actor doesn't have much recognition but he's done Kyo's voice in all KoF's since '94 (Masahiro Nonaka)Kusanagi's voice actor is one of the most recognized voice actors most known for performing Kaneda's voice in Akira and he also did Sean's voice in SF3 (Mitsuo Iwata)
K.O.D said, March 31, 2009, 02:32:49 pmKyo's sounds : http://kod.trinitymugen.net/kyo2003sounds.rarKusanagi's sounds: http://kod.trinitymugen.net/kusanagisounds.rarKyo's voice actor doesn't have much recognition but he's done Kyo's voice in all KoF's since '94 (Masahiro Nonaka)Kusanagi's voice actor is one of the most recognized voice actors most known for performing Kaneda's voice in Akira and he also did Sean's voice in SF3 (Mitsuo Iwata)I'd love to, but I can't download stuff on computers that aren't mine.
whodawhat said, March 28, 2009, 02:45:49 amThe usage of "fag" and "emo" is hilarious. Wait, no it isn't, it's just retarded and obnoxious.those words are permenantly in my dictionary from playing waaay too much online halo.
Frederica Bernkastel~ said, March 31, 2009, 05:43:02 pmKyo's voice actor also used to look a lot like kyo before he ate a cow whole.Wha ?
