because sfo stole sprites from Reu without any permission and keeps trying to justify itself on being ok
They make money from capcom sprites and characters, even if they don't "make profit" that's still really fucking morally wrong.
No.The Evil Ryu and Evil Ken spirtes or as they call them "vindicated" Ryu & Ken.Who knows though really.They could be useing stuff other people rip but its the point they add on extras so that people will donate more and more money just to get an upperhand over other opponents.How can people not know of kawak's and etc and rather goto a literal cheating system? ???
I can't say that SFO would be an insult to Mugen, moreso an insult to Reu. As for the "profit" thing, it seems more moral based than being an insult to Mugen as a whole.D/\/\K said, October 04, 2007, 03:44:08 pmHow can people not know of kawak's and etc and rather goto a literal cheating system? ???Kawak's is not common knowledge, nor should be treated as such. Also, it's a matter of preference.
It's not the only one though from my knowledge either.I think I know of another 2 or 3 but looking around a bit wasn't to hard for me to find out about it.Then again, there's always judgeing diffrent peoples laziness or abilty to search and tinker around a bit. <_<
I only said Kawaks because it's the only one you mentioned. Other than that and Mame, I don't know any other arcade emulators off the top of my head. However, my response about Kawaks still applies.
Yeah sorry.I just couldn't think of the others names off the top of my head.Still, isn't right you get higher priority over other character just because you supply a few extra dollars.Just doesn't sound right to me...
Then again, not everyone pays for it. However, it's mostly an issue of loyalty, choices, knowledge of choices, and being content/preferences. Even if everyone fully knew what SFO was doing, it would be foolish to think that everyone would drop it. Carlos Mencia said, October 04, 2007, 04:58:46 pmSFO makes pong look good.Holy sh*t... PONG ONLINE IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA!!!
Pong is addicting.I need to go buy some Tetris as well.And I hope I don't sound scarcastic.But I do enjoy Tetris and Pong.
gswang said, October 04, 2007, 09:04:17 pmhow did they find out about mugen and how did they take them i think we have a moleYou say that as if Mugen is a secret. It's not well known, but it's not like it's infeasible for the heads of SFO to find out about Mugen.As for taking them, it's pretty easy to take Evil Ryu and Ken's sprites. I could post a few sprites from Evil Ryu in 10-15 minutes. 1-2 minutes to take them out, and the rest for conversion and uploading (plus a few more "just in case" minutes. Like actually redownloading Evil Ryu in my case).
gswang said, October 04, 2007, 10:37:15 pmman spam u know i found out about mugen from sfo and ive been sfo clean for 2 years lolis that really spam? we're talkin about what sfo has done and stuff, this is just adding to it.
DNZRX768 said, October 04, 2007, 11:16:34 pm*sigh*I thought this issue has been resolved and burned to ashes already...Resolved? Certainly you jest.
UltraSonic50 said, October 04, 2007, 12:56:45 pmWhy is the Street Fighter Online an insult to MUGEN?Because of people like you who ask.
1. They are charging money for a game someone else designed (Capcom)2. They make people download spyware to play with a stolen character (Reu's Evil Ken)3. They are denying they stole the sprites from Reu and deleting all proof from their forums while its clear to see that they are literally the same (check out youtube for a comparison)4. They deny that that they are making money with this game and that the VIP ''donations" are only used to keep the server alive, however "donations under $10 arent worth it".
someguywhojustposted said, October 04, 2007, 10:09:27 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=lDKhriWLmAkwatch this and you'll know more about the sfo game vindicatorIf this is directed towards me, I played SFO in a sandbox (oddly enough, Viper suggested it to me). And Game Vindicator still worked.
ok its bad but im a mugen lover but didn't we allmost do the same thing but with out the money ordeal ???but u know all this ing is not going to get us anywhere so lets beat them at there own game tee hee
no point we aren't at war with SFO we are just pissed off that they slapped Reu in the face basically and then continue to deny it plus destroy any evidence on their side of the action.The only beef with them is that they took something from one of us (Reu) and used it without telling that person and therefore without permission and then made money off of it. Reu's Capcom based stuff is considered fanart in Capcom's eyes and he would probably be sued if he tried to make money off of it. They took his fanart and made money off of it.As a side effect of this, last I heard, Capcom is supposedly gathering info and getting lawyers together to pursue SFO in court (lawsuit Capcom vs. SFO) which will most likely lead to a cease and desist order resulting in the termination of all SFO operations.Our community (mfg and possibly others on other boards and maybe even people on the SFO side or unrelated third parties) may hold some responsibility for the lawsuit happening due to people sending emails to Capcom pointing out how SFO is making money off of Capcom's stuff.No further action needs to be taken against SFO IMHO. If you want to go to "war" with SFO we have already won, since Capcom is possibly suing them which will probably lead to them being terminated. I hope I summed it all up and answered any questions as to the situation.
gswang said, October 05, 2007, 08:16:54 amok its bad but im a mugen lover but didn't we allmost do the same thing but with out the money ordeal ???but u know all this ing is not going to get us anywhere so lets beat them at there own game tee heeI have an account of it and i will beat them.I played SFO first before i play MUGEN which is Internet-Free and if i have some problems in the internet, i will just sit and play MUGEN than waiting or repairing the vulnerabilities of the Internet connection until the SFO works
read my post, it is above yours, there is no need for you to "beat them" they are more or less beaten already.
I stopped watching that video half way through. Most of it's circumstantial evidence, and they're stating their suspicions as fact.Anywho, all Capcom has to do is prove that SFO is making money. With the current situation, that $500,000 could very well be put somewhere for use on the website maintenance, and not profit. It shouldn't be incredibly hard to prove that they're spending the money for other things, if they are, though. Capcom probably has good lawyers.If they are just using it for the website... then that website's gonna be up for like 10 years even without a single new donation
@UltraSonic:it's cool look at the timestamp we posted at roughly the same time it would have been impossible to read my post before you posted.[size=3pt]but since the forum warns you when new posts are made while you are posting yours you probably could have read it.[/size]I doubt SFO made themselves a not for profit organization. They make money off of it even if they are operating at a loss, which someone from their camp claimed, they can still be hit with any kind of suit Capcom wants to file.
DemonicDrPhil said, October 05, 2007, 08:32:13 amno point we aren't at war with SFO we are just pissed off that they slapped Reu in the face basically and then continue to deny it plus destroy any evidence on their side of the action.The only beef with them is that they took something from one of us (Reu) and used it without telling that person and therefore without permission and then made money off of it. Reu's Capcom based stuff is considered fanart in Capcom's eyes and he would probably be sued if he tried to make money off of it. They took his fanart and made money off of it.As a side effect of this, last I heard, Capcom is supposedly gathering info and getting lawyers together to pursue SFO in court (lawsuit Capcom vs. SFO) which will most likely lead to a cease and desist order resulting in the termination of all SFO operations.Our community (mfg and possibly others on other boards and maybe even people on the SFO side or unrelated third parties) may hold some responsibility for the lawsuit happening due to people sending emails to Capcom pointing out how SFO is making money off of Capcom's stuff.No further action needs to be taken against SFO IMHO. If you want to go to "war" with SFO we have already won, since Capcom is possibly suing them which will probably lead to them being terminated. I hope I summed it all up and answered any questions as to the situation.you r right bro so right
kaijyuu said, October 05, 2007, 08:44:18 amAnywho, all Capcom has to do is prove that SFO is making money. With the current situation, that $500,000 could very well be put somewhere for use on the website maintenance, and not profit. It shouldn't be incredibly hard to prove that they're spending the money for other things, if they are, though. Capcom probably has good lawyers.not really, capcom's ip is their ip, they can sue anybody using their ip unless they gave them written permission. for reference see capcom vs data east on fighter's history as well as tecmo vs ninjahacker for something even more similar.
The Real Wujizah-Manof Panzermanathod said, October 05, 2007, 07:22:49 amsomeguywhojustposted said, October 04, 2007, 10:09:27 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=lDKhriWLmAkwatch this and you'll know more about the sfo game vindicatorIf this is directed towards me, I played SFO in a sandbox (oddly enough, Viper suggested it to me). And Game Vindicator still worked. no, not really. i mean i played sfo also, than i stopped when i learned about mugen
Also, if the SFO didn't stole the sprites from Reu and the warehousers didn't warehouse all his characters especially Dragon Claw, Reu creates and releases characters whatever it is public or private and Dragon Claw will possibly be release in the public.
Does it matter that they stole the sprits anymore?or is it the money thing thats the main problemor is it that there makin money off the sprites
UltraSonic50 said, October 06, 2007, 02:42:43 amOh sorry, i am not so fluent in englishIn any case, All three of Reu's characters are public.
huh??? then where is the .zip/.rar file of dragon claw?and the links are only the wallpaper and the video.
UltraSonic50 said, October 06, 2007, 07:49:47 amhuh??? then where is the .zip/.rar file of dragon claw?and the links are only the wallpaper and the video.just ask reu for them if u don't want to be a leech not that i care tee hee
Triple T said, October 05, 2007, 03:01:05 am1. They are charging money for a game someone else designed (Capcom)2. They make people download spyware to play with a stolen character (Reu's Evil Ken)3. They are denying they stole the sprites from Reu and deleting all proof from their forums while its clear to see that they are literally the same (check out youtube for a comparison)4. They deny that that they are making money with this game and that the VIP ''donations" are only used to keep the server alive, however "donations under $10 arent worth it".I dont know too much info about SFO but judging from the reason you put,the only thing I disagree with is that they make people pay money to play it and that it comes along with Spyware.Thats the only 2 things I dont like.Otherwise from the video I seen,it looks like an ok game
(TAO)MON said, January 18, 2008, 11:19:42 pmSo... what's up? Bumping old threads/headaches I see.Your point is?? ???
Laxxe23 said, October 04, 2007, 01:18:36 pmbecause sfo stole sprites from Reu without any permission and keeps trying to justify itself on being oki play SFO, and i asked them about that a long time ago, they denied though, I KNEW they were lying.I imediately thought of Reu's Evil Ryu when i played as Evil Ryuand there are other ways to become VIP, getting sponsored makes u VIP for free
hotreezy said, January 18, 2008, 11:20:44 pm(TAO)MON said, January 18, 2008, 11:19:42 pmSo... what's up? Bumping old threads/headaches I see.Your point is?? ???Don't resurrect drama?
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