The Mugen Fighters Guild
M.U.G.E.N Central => Sprite Projects => Topic started by: Duos.act on April 07, 2015, 02:29:27 pm
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So you ever look at those Sonic sprites by Seanaltly and think "Ya know, these are really dern good, I love how they strike a perfect middle ground between the old school Sonic and his newer look, but wouldn't it be cool if I could make him look like his alternate costumes from Smash?"
(http://i.imgur.com/KgqG0rF.png)(http://i.imgur.com/vOwlYQr.png)(http://i.imgur.com/zzQRwTy.png)(http://i.imgur.com/1BQDOvf.png)(http://i.imgur.com/7S1DLMa.png)(http://i.imgur.com/7nZIBsN.png)(http://i.imgur.com/q7KU59t.png)
"Or what if I could make him cosplay other characters from the series?"
(http://i.imgur.com/jmya1Un.png)(http://i.imgur.com/OW2VOqQ.png)(http://i.imgur.com/ZPC40uS.png)
"Or even make him look like one of those alternate versions of him from games that Sega probably wants desperately to forget about?"
(http://i.imgur.com/DmnC0Pr.png)(http://i.imgur.com/3xUC814.png)(http://i.imgur.com/GqSFPBx.png)
Or maybe you just want to assure everyone that it's nothin' personnel....kid.
(http://i.imgur.com/Y7HAMKJ.png)
Well this project is dedicated to you.
For the uh...third, I think, time in my life I'm going to be tackling color separation. The last time I attempted this was the SFF CK uses for his Ingrid. She had close to 700 sprites, whereas Sonic has just a little under 400, which means a much smaller workload. Because of that, I've decided I can attempt to go a little crazier with him than I did with her.
(http://i.imgur.com/maTW1BT.gif)
Things separated
-Ears
-Eyes
-Chest
-Arms
-Cuffs
-Anklets
-Legs
-Shoe highlights
I've considered separating his nose and the pupil of his eye, as the former shares with the lightest shade of his gloves and the latter would let you make him have milky white eyes like in my Japanese animes. Are these significant enough to matter to you guys? I mean it's a near effortless job so it would require no serious work on my part to add two new shades to the palette, but is it big enough a deal that you guys would even notice or care?
Anyway I'm not very far into this, but I haven't been working on it for very long. I'll be working at my own pace which means despite the small workload it may take me a month or so to finish. However, if I truly find myself just unable to finish it, I'll release everything I have so that anyone interested can pick up where I left off.
And yes, I do realize that this project will be opening up a massive can of worms regarding Deviantart tier OCs and recolors. Your problem now Mugen community!
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I wasn't going to say anything, but then you posted that Coldsteel palette. Goddamn it. Still, I'm looking forward to this.
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While Sean may have assisted some in making the sprites, they were not overall made by him. The sprites were made by HyperSonic92 I believe. Not sure of the number, but I am sure of the name. As for the extra separation, if it isn't too much effort, I say go for it. It'd be nice to have the option. Looking good btw, I'll be keeping an eye out on progress.
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Would be looking for this
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Respect to anyone who does colour separation, that's a lot of dedication! Looking forward to it. I will finally be able to bring my fancharacter I made when I was nine years old into MUGEN, haha :P
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Love the color separation so far, just wanna ask are you gonna separate Sonic's spikes so we can give him Shadow styled streaks? ;D
Also if I recall correctly, the Sonic sprites were made by Hypersonic. Might wanna put that in the title. :)
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(http://i.imgur.com/jmya1Un.png)
Is THIS one supposed to be a Metal Sonic palette? I was gonna say you could probably do even more separation around the mouth, and make it look more metallic looking. Make a new separate color for all/any of the mouth specific colors, and make them all the same color to remove it entirely, like the genuine metal sonic.
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Or maybe it's just the fact that the white could be darker and use more contrast to actually look metallic.
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While Sean may have assisted some in making the sprites, they were not overall made by him. The sprites were made by HyperSonic92 I believe. Not sure of the number, but I am sure of the name. As for the extra separation, if it isn't too much effort, I say go for it. It'd be nice to have the option. Looking good btw, I'll be keeping an eye out on progress.
This. Sean didn't sprite these. Hypersonic did, with a little bit of help from me.
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While Sean may have assisted some in making the sprites, they were not overall made by him. The sprites were made by HyperSonic92 I believe. Not sure of the number, but I am sure of the name. As for the extra separation, if it isn't too much effort, I say go for it. It'd be nice to have the option. Looking good btw, I'll be keeping an eye out on progress.
This. Sean didn't sprite these. Hypersonic did, with a little bit of help from me.
I apologize. PM me a list of credits and I'll make sure you all get your fair shake when I'm done.
Love the color separation so far, just wanna ask are you gonna separate Sonic's spikes so we can give him Shadow styled streaks? ;D
Also if I recall correctly, the Sonic sprites were made by Hypersonic. Might wanna put that in the title. :)
I think the highlights ar ea bit extraneous so I doubt I"ll go that far.
Got a bit more done today, but I've still got a ways to go. Fortunately the anims themselves are short so I can blaze through them with SONIC SPEEEEED.
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While Sean may have assisted some in making the sprites, they were not overall made by him. The sprites were made by HyperSonic92 I believe. Not sure of the number, but I am sure of the name. As for the extra separation, if it isn't too much effort, I say go for it. It'd be nice to have the option. Looking good btw, I'll be keeping an eye out on progress.
This. Sean didn't sprite these. Hypersonic did, with a little bit of help from me.
Just to be clear and get this all out of the way so we can focus on MC2's hard work (which I'm excited about, legit), it went like this. HyperSonic made new sprites based on the Sonic Battle sprites. He then sent them to me so that I could add anti-aliasing and edit the shading to fit the CVS-style I was generally going for in CvTW. Here's an example.
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y407/ohmystromboli/Sonic2b_zpsdajnjjye.png) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/ohmystromboli/media/Sonic2b_zpsdajnjjye.png.html)
I had to do that to every sprite. So there, that's cleared up.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to this. It's going to open up a lot of palette possibilities and I can't wait for the finished results. Thanks for this, bro!
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I did the motion blur work on some of the original animations. I want to say four or five of them. It's a pretty small contribution and I honestly don't mind if you don't include me.
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No pictures right now, but have an update anyway.
I'm about finished with Sonic's basic movement animations. It's not the fun stuff, but basic movement and fundamentals are the most important part of fighting games. At the very least he can do what he's known for (run really fast) without losing his sweet new duds now. Pretty soon I'll be moving onto the next set which should be...normals I believe?
One more piece of advice guys...if you try color separation, for the sake of your sanity modify the default palette to have as much contrast as possible, that way you can see the different tones much better. Due to the sprite style on Sonic (Capcom-esque) having lower contrast, I keep making myself dizzy having to zoom in and see the different shades of blue. I'm getting there though!
I did the motion blur work on some of the original animations. I want to say four or five of them. It's a pretty small contribution and I honestly don't mind if you don't include me.
You're getting credit WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. Fuck are you gonna do about it? >:(
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(http://i.imgur.com/z4CLKtL.gif)
Fortunately both walk anims use the same sprites!
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I love reusing animations, don't you?
BTW I think you forgot his belly in one of those frames. That, or I'm just crazy. Keep it up!
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Crazy thought. But are you planning to make Shadow the Hedgehog as well? that would be interesting. I mean seeing Shadow made by you of course
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Honestly, the separation is already complex enough as it is, and putting a Shadow separation would just be taking it too far. In fact, it only allows even more possibilities for recolored fancharacter palettes to be made, as if there wasn't enough possibilities already.
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It wouldn't be possible for me to do Shadow, his spines are a completely different formation from Sonic's. I could separate his belly in 2 ways that would make it possible to RESEMBLE Shadow but I'm not going that far, that's completely extraneous IMO.
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A small update. I've been mulling over this for a few weeks and pretty much I feel like today was a good day to announce this, since it was a while coming anyway.
I have like 1/4 of his sprites finished, but I basically have no desire to continue this project. It's not fun or rewarding at all and it's pretty much just a tedious, thankless job. I could easily finish this within a few weeks, but there's no point. I'll spare you most of the details, but I've pretty much found that coming back was a mistake. Everything wrong with this joint is still terrible and probably even worse, and I don't feel like pouring any more precious, irreplacable time into a community I have less than 0 respect for (with exceptions I could count on one hand). And no, don't ask me for the work I've already finished, because clearly most of you people have a problem crediting me for what I've already done since you're content to take work that I've put months and sometimes even years into and not even have the common decency to acknowledge where it came from. Good luck finding a new palette god though, there's nobody in this entire "community" whose skill comes even close to mine, nor whose work has shown up in as many legendary and award winning characters. Your loss tho. Let these no talent hacks keep putting out their half assed "work," you just lost the absolute greatest of his kind.
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im so sorry we lost your presence, o most holy ultimate lifeform of palette seperation, o legendary contributor elder god, o holy trash taker of the mugen community, o holy i get mad cause someone forgot to credit the color seperation of a base character used in an edit, o i expose bigotry by calling people retards king hypocrite, o everyone is the problem but myself
we indeed lost the greatest of his kind. the greatest of the pretentious
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You've left more times than Terry Funk's retired.
That's...honestly fairly funny.
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See you next year, MC2!
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I like how he never explains why this whole community is so horrible. Must be because 1 person didn't type his name in a readme. Whole community is now instant shite!
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He's acting like he's doing the world a favor just for making a palette separation for one of the most basic character designs that exist (and not even that much of a complex separation at that!), while in the meantime, I recall making almost 200 sprites FROM SCRATCH for a single character in a non-profit Sonic fangame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOjNaYYoXAk) without complaining how much everyone should be thanking me for making an entire Knuckles by my own will. In fact, I'm still making new content for the game (http://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=39442).
Why I'm mentioning this? Because it's not really anyone's problem if you're incapable of finishing a simple palette separation that nobody even asked for you to make. Grow the fuck up.
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I'm going off-topic to say thanks for showing another good sprite gallery, MotorRoach! :D
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Seeya nex..
See you next year, MC2!
Damn it. Too slow.
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I was looking forward to this project and we've collaborated on stuff in the past, and I don't know what caused all this but all I'm gonna say is it was good having you back while we did, man. I hope you change your mind.
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grow up dude. its okay to quit the project, but bashing an entire community and claiming you're one of the greatest?
no.
Shiiiiiiit dude stop pulling a fucking Kanye West and saying the entire forum is trash. That just makes you trash.
"O thy holy MC2 we shan't live without thy divine presence." yeaaaaah no.
Oh, and fuck you.
Oh and grow up please.
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You're a couple of days late, and your comment isn't any different from what everyone else already said in this thread, other than giving some senseless bashing and insulting. MC2 is full of shit, but so is your post.
Good job embarrassing yourself.
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Having stumbled upon this thread by virtue of Seanaltly's work, I'm only glad I haven't done what you're doing now, MC2. Nevertheless...
I was looking forward to this project and we've collaborated on stuff in the past, and I don't know what caused all this but all I'm gonna say is it was good having you back while we did, man. I hope you change your mind.
Words of a saint, right here.
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I was kinda looking forward to this...
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Good luck finding a new palette god though, there's nobody in this entire "community" whose skill comes even close to mine, nor whose work has shown up in as many legendary and award winning characters. Your loss tho. Let these no talent hacks keep putting out their half assed "work," you just lost the absolute greatest of his kind.
We're talking about colors.
Just a reminder.
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You're a couple of days late, and your comment isn't any different from what everyone else already said in this thread, other than giving some senseless bashing and insulting. MC2 is full of shit, but so is your post.
Good job embarrassing yourself.
ah, good point. I just hate how he bashes the entire forum just like that. I'm a weeee bit too defensive about that kinda stuff :P nevertheless I see the error I posted, thanks man.
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im so sorry we lost your presence, o most holy ultimate lifeform of palette seperation, o legendary contributor elder god, o holy trash taker of the mugen community, o holy i get mad cause someone forgot to credit the color seperation of a base character used in an edit, o i expose bigotry by calling people retards king hypocrite, o everyone is the problem but myself
we indeed lost the greatest of his kind. the greatest of the pretentious
Sad I didn't see this post earlier, but honestly this really made me laugh. I wish we could like posts on this forum.