He was banned because he sent me a rude personal message saying that he would not listen to what I say and that he would continue to poke shots at Gill. So, yeah I banned him because of what he said he would do, and if I catch him doing it again I will ban him even longer.
He acts like banning somebody to prevent future disruptions is bad, when it is not.
He's very immature and doesn't know how to handle situations; judging by his behavior during the chess game, the angry pm he sent me because I told him to stop bickering with Gill, and the current user name and signature he has.
Here's the pm, I posted it in the public staff thread earlier.
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well, i do care and thats all the fuck that matters. you think i give a shit what you think? hell no. if he can do whatever to me (including at this goddamn forum) i am going to take my shots when i fucking want to whether you like it or not.
where the fuck were you when he was making fun of me for just wondering about a shazzo char? so much so he posts about that shit in a video. where the fuck were you when all i wanted was my response to him where he made me look bad kept in the same damn topic instead of being moved? no where. i was fucking censor'd three times for that shit.
so i'll say it again, if i want to fucking say something to/about him, i will fucking say something.
and for the record, i might have been a little receptive to if someone on this staff i respect saying something (iced, titln, tempest, etc) but after the fucking way you acted like such a prick to me in that game of chess (which is pathetic really you had to act like that over chess), shut the fuck up to me about orochi gill and anything the fuck else!!
In short, don't take his long personal messages of personal insults too hard. You're not too involved to ban him. He's being a dick because he's accusing people of ridiculous things yet he fails to see the problem, himself. It's common for people to want to blame their faults on other people. He is wrong, he is not in anyway right at this point.
For a brief period (following the Tony 3rd "scandal") I placed myself on "Receive PMs from Admins and Friends only" to silence people who were continuing it.
I believe he tried to send ME PMs during that time, because I received one at Renegade MUGEN about his ban (which I don't even visit) asking if his PMs were disabled which may have caused him to think his PMs were disabled, then just now when I ninja checked my account at work, he sent another PM.
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is it routine for someone that was banned here for any particular period of time to have their pm ability removed as well?
The only way that would happen is if your ban included you not being able to log in. Some users, however, can choose to ignore your PMs, some moderators may also choose to only receive PMs from administrators or other moderators. If the latter is the case, then PM another moderator about your problem and we will sort it out in the best way possible. However, if you are being ignored by a normal user, there is nothing we can do to help you.
Have a nice day!
That's all I have to say on the subject for now.
nah, he got unbanned, the ban lasted a week.
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Don't start with Orochi Gill out of the blue. Stop it. This is a warning.
well, i do care and thats all the fuck that matters. you think i give a shit what you think? hell no. if he can do whatever to me (including at this goddamn forum) i am going to take my shots when i fucking want to whether you like it or not.
where the fuck were you when he was making fun of me for just wondering about a shazzo char? so much so he posts about that shit in a video. where the fuck were you when all i wanted was my response to him where he made me look bad kept in the same damn topic instead of being moved? no where. i was fucking censor'd three times for that shit.
so i'll say it again, if i want to fucking say something to/about him, i will fucking say something.
and for the record, i might have been a little receptive to if someone on this staff i respect saying something (iced, titln, tempest, etc) but after the fucking way you acted like such a prick to me in that game of chess (which is pathetic really you had to act like that over chess), shut the fuck up to me about orochi gill and anything the fuck else!!
Banned. One Week. I gave Orochi Gill the same warning and he didn't respond this way at all. All he said was that he has told Volzilla the same thing. Which he has.
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scanning this message board for every time he's done something will take forever. i'll send you what i sent cyanide, plus a little more.
3 times when titiln told him to stop harassing me
well considering how you've been chasing him in every other thread
the link he posted has an interview with the thread starter, quit being so obnoxious for a minute
that image is taken from the imt website so he didn't "jack" any fonts
also stop getting on his case in every other thread holy fucking shit
as i said before, he'd get the point for maybe a few days, but obviously go back to whatever. especially since i'm having this conversation with you about it all.
here are 3 other times where i didn't initiate anything, but then he had to take some shots at me and/or CVG
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115748.msg1114696#msg1114696
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116277.msg1122263#msg1122263
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115501.msg1110406#msg1110406
while i realize, you might consider all of these mini jabs or whatever, that does not make them right. mainly for these reasons
- sheer volume and and extended time frame of acting in this nature, even after staff has said to quit on occasion.
- this rule here: "Be nice, and treat the other users with respect. Behavior rubs off." as posted here: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62286.msg516910#msg516910
- the very fact i have something over my head to where if i respond in a negative way towards him at all, i'll be banned. i already was for a week for "future intentions" regarding this. so if i can't respond, he shouldnt be able to provoke in any way
- these messages from a Global mod, HipChick:
I removed the one of his that sounded insulting.
You want me to delete the, 'you couldn't get the flame to loop correctly' post as well?
I'm just tired of the User X vs Gill drama.
Never seems to stop.
Meh, I feel you.
I hate it when he (anyone) pulls this stunt.
Unecessary drama seems to get to me.
In the meantime, as superficial as it sounds, I suppose just try your best to ignore him, and PM me if you have any more complaints.
Peace,
Oz
regarding not posting releases on mfg anymore, i dont due to the nature of how rude the bulk of the community is here.
Orochigill has the right to have an oppinion on CVG. I wouldn't take actions on anybody for staing their dislike towards twilight or tekken or whatever as long as it wasn't disruptive on the thread at hand an on those cases they were either oppinion threads or he stopped at the time.
About you not announcing releases...I personally think it's better to keep it that way since nothing ood ever comes out of those threads.
While I do admit Gill's behavior isn't the best what are we supposed to do? It's a forum, he has the right to say what he wants on mugen discussion and the release boards.
And being totally honest...Volzilla's announcements are pretty bad more often than not. It's no wonder why he gets bashed so hard.
From back in the Shamrock mess:
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i logged in just to pm this to you.
you and i both know calling someone a retarded dog fucker is wrong. what you did was fine.
the problem is the nature of this place. they want drama. and its funnier to see what some staff try to paint that publicly when you know it they really do not stand behind such things (well, you might, rest i doubt it)
i'm just glad i wasnt drinking milk when i read rajaa's reply to you. it totally would have come out my nose, or been spit out in disbelief. they do not try at all to talk people out of posting style. if they had, gill wouldnt be as hated as he is, nor have over a dozen clones of people trying to act like him.
in short, i wish you luck trying to change the nature of this place, but you took your first shot to the nose today in that battle.
the way this place is, is the 1 and only reason why CVG United's rules focus is on respect. and because of that, we hardly have any incidents that plague this place. heck, our report feature is barely used.
anyway, i'm rooting for you. i root for anyone who seems nice and respectful...a trait many do not have here.
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i kind of wish i was a little more active earlier when you were burnt out on this place. i thought about pming you and navana to come to cvg united. we wouldnt have given a crap about whatever, much less made the stink like this place did.
i'm almost positive you will get burnt out on this place though. its impossible to change the culture here. they want to be rude and snarky because its cool. that why i have whatever in my sig....not like it help though.
i tried to make a topic about that month back or so, but yet another jerk staff member tried to turn it into something it wasnt and the point was missed completely and they tried to say it my perspective and it not true in general. yet not long after a bunch if topics pop up about disrespect.
i ended up putting the bulk of staff on ignore after that....not that it matters, they still see me post, and you still see them when not logged in.
in short, good luck, but dont get burnt out. if you do, there are other mugen forums out there that dont let drama be the focus.
And from yesterday:
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hi,
i hate to drag you into whatever, but i can't help it due to lack of respect for the rest of the staff. i've lost count of the number of times me and gill have butted heads due to him taking potshots at my team. and the bulk of those incidents, someone from staff has said or alluded to that dickhead, "cut it out."
but the funny thing is, he always does it again in the future....and today, it is the present. i'm referring to my report.
plz, if you are now a gmod, be the one person with balls enough to follow the mandate they admin and staff say they try to portray of, "dont be a dick"
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and that jackass who got to the report first is the reason i pm'd you.
not ill intended? he took a shot at our entire team. how is that not ill intended? and given all the history, he should know not to do that sort of thing. but because the bulk of the staff here can't stand up for the #1 rule of "treat others with respect, behavior rubs off" or the mandate of "don't be a dick" they pick and choose when to enforce, he keeps with the passive aggressive shots like this.
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thanx. appreciate it. goodbye --; (Cad note: This was after not replying to him)
I finally sent this back to him:
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I think you put it best:
i've lost count of the number of times me and gill have butted heads
There are two sides to this. I'm aware of what you're doing, I know about your two's history and am aware of how you handle it. I agree with what the other mods have said about this, and in this case he didn't cross any lines. I've seen this post btw:
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=126116.msg1283831#msg1283831 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=126116.msg1283831#msg1283831)
And happen to agree with his viewpoint on "the nice rule". The rest of the staff and I know you want something done about Orochi Gill, you don't have to report him and send a bunch of pms to a staff member every time he gets on your nerves a little.
Moderation is up to our discretion. Those rules are guild lines for members, but aren't strictly applied nor mandatory moderation for the staff.
If you still think that everything is coming strictly from his end and you don't provoke him at all, all you have to do is look down at your own sig.
Edit: Think this should be kept private cause I posted his pms. :-X