OrochiK0F97 said, August 09, 2007, 03:06:12 pmNO SIR.Which one then? And sir, let us speak arguments.(I've read your "review" on his character and know your opinion on zzzasd)
1. Read properly then as it's not his Kyo that I covered. 2. The best Kyo converted so far is Sander's Kyo, fixed with the patch Winane (or [E], can't remember) published to correct old DOS Mugen hit/block pauses trick.3. Arguments ? Do you really need arguments if you read that review ? Let me quote it for those who didn't read it yet.That review hosted on RandomSelect said:Misaligned sprites, completely off velocities, wrong required sprites, missing KOF gethits ... and that's only the beginningAHURON & ZZZASD ARE NOT MY GODS. Sorry.
1. A typo. "this" -> "his". I've read a review on his Clark. Just re-read it.2. Where this patch is hosted?3. - Sander's Kyo has no less misaligned sprites and incorrect CLSNs, I can prove it anytime;- zzzasd's Kyo has inversed commands, Sander's hasn't;- zzzasd's Kyo has a an accurate command cancels, Sander hasn't;- zzzasd's Kyo has an alternative of command buffering, which works fine, Sander's hasn't;- zzzasd's Kyo has better cornerpushes while Sander uses a standard MUGEN one;- zzzasd's Kyo has the exact juggling system;- zzzasd's Kyo's animations are 99% correct;- zzzasd's Kyo has the correct hit/guard pausetimes and doesn't need patching;- zzzasd's Kyo's damage/power values are correct.OrochiK0F97 said, August 09, 2007, 03:22:15 pmAHURON & ZZZASD ARE NOT MY GODS. Sorry.They're anyone's gods, they're humans But you can worship whoever you like
Jesuszilla said, August 09, 2007, 04:07:21 pmThe 1% being 1 X pixel and 1 Y pixel And the concerned example is the IDLE STANCE. ZZZ Kyo / Damage data : since when KOF uses different values for basic standing fierce punch & standing fierce kick ?Not getting BASIC STUFF done right is the first step of being hated, you know.More to come (found a bounce glitch on 236 K,K x 2 then 236 K,K within 30 seconds -> opponent bounces one more time on the ground when he shouldn't).
Wee...My favs.---XCB (Except Tetsu. God, I hate Tetsu.)Kamek - Some of the funniest and best made chars I've seen. Except Magikarp, but he doesn't count.Rikard - SPO Ryu FTW.9 - The best Melty Blood conversions out there.Choujin - DBZ chars that are actually balanced? BLASPHEMY!BBH - I love BBH (the char), and Yoma is very well made, although a tad overpowered.Other excellent ones---PotS - Don't use his chars, but they are excellent.Judgespear - Homer.. Nuff said.Warusaki - Some of the best CvS conversions out there. Borghi - Awesome original characters.Avoid---ArcturusShazzoOohwhapSupermysteryEx-Inferis
legoman727 said, August 09, 2007, 05:50:08 pmXCB (Except Tetsu. God, I hate Tetsu.)I like you already.
Jesuszilla said, August 09, 2007, 05:53:34 pmlegoman727 said, August 09, 2007, 05:50:08 pmXCB (Except Tetsu. God, I hate Tetsu.)I like you already. I take it you're a fellow member of the Tetsu Hate Club?
Vans said, August 09, 2007, 03:54:36 pmElix said, August 09, 2007, 03:37:48 pm- zzzasd's Kyo's animations are 99% correct;ROFLMAOStart digging Sander's or CCI's Kyo and you'll get much more than 1X-1Y dispersion.Not to mention that 1 pixel difference affects gameplay even less than 1%.OrochiK0F97 said, August 09, 2007, 04:17:14 pmZZZ Kyo / Damage data : since when KOF uses different values for basic standing fierce punch & standing fierce kick ?Since KOF 94. Dunno, maybe even earlier I can already see how much of a KOF specialist you are.Vans said, August 09, 2007, 04:28:59 pmI can juggle after: Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (1 hit).So much for exact juggling.? I juggle Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (2 hits), like it should be.Again, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors. Yet this attempt has failed. And to make it fair and square I should be listing some of Sander's mistakes, but I won't do that. I guess your hate for zzzasd lies beyond his characters.
Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pmStart digging Sander's or CCI's Kyo and you'll get much more than 1X-1Y dispersion.Not to mention that 1 pixel difference affects gameplay even less than 1%.doesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pm? I juggle Hard Shiki Kai (2 hits) => Light Shiki Kai (2 hits), like it should be.and i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pmAgain, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors. Yet this attempt has failed. And to make it fair and square I should be listing some of Sander's mistakes, but I won't do that. I guess your hate for zzzasd lies beyond his characters.No, you are just being an ass.
Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pmAgain, think how much efforts you've done just to find his errors.I must be dreaming....
Vans said, August 09, 2007, 08:38:17 pmdoesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.Let me rephrase then. I won't use numbers now and just state that zzzasd's Kyo's CLSN boxes and animation times are more accurate than Sander's.Vans said, August 09, 2007, 08:38:17 pmand i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.Yes, this is indeed a mishap. But I can do the same with Sander's Kyo. Also I can hit liedown opponents with his yami barai Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pmNo, you are just being an ass.Maybe I am. But this is my reaction to untruth being spoken.
this is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"
Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:46:12 pmVans said, August 09, 2007, 08:38:17 pmdoesn't justify your statement about 99 % accurate animations.Let me rephrase then. I won't use numbers now and just state that zzzasd's Kyo's CLSN boxes and animation times are more accurate than Sander's.Vans said, August 09, 2007, 08:38:17 pmand i can juggle after the first hit of the second Shiki Kai, like it shouldn't.Yes, this is indeed a mishap. But I can do the same with Sander's Kyo. Also I can hit down opponents with his yami barai Elix said, August 09, 2007, 08:31:57 pmNo, you are just being an ass.Maybe I am. But this is my reaction to untruth being spoken.I'm sorry but I only see untruth coming from ONE person, and that is YOU, Elix.
Azel said, August 09, 2007, 08:48:21 pmthis is exactley what i was talking about in my first post, and pretty much the reason Cyanide hates topics like these aswell...its turned into "Whos Kyo is more accurate?!"I couldn't help myself this time - have never discussed this topic before Jesuszilla said, August 09, 2007, 08:48:51 pmI'm sorry but I only see untruth coming from ONE person, and that is YOU, Elix.Arguments? Or better leave it as it is. People could already see different opinions and it's their will to decide for themselves on which character is better.
The way i see you reacting: "This character doesn't have "X" system. AUTO SUCKS"You are a hypocrite, you are asking for perfection and speaking untruth yourself.And the last thing i'm going to say is this:Good game play > You and your "accurate" systems.No one gives a shit about what character is better, only you.