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Title: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 15, 2015, 09:23:27 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bUkZQG9.png)

For those of you who were single this year, now you can take a cute Brazillian girl home with you tonight. Hey, I still have 1 1/2 hours left before Valentine's Day is over here. That counts for something, right? RIGHT??? Alright, enough jokes, here's what you came for.


(http://i.imgur.com/dauJHpj.png)

Pupa is finally done. Well, actually she was pretty much done for a long time now, but I just kept putting off uploading it. UNTIL TODAY. She pretty much has everything that was in ROTD with some balance tweaks (why should a move that denies you of your heavy kick for 30 seconds cost two stocks to use?!), some optional custom damage scaling options, and at least one easter egg! Hooray!

As a sidenote, this character has Messatsu's Character Trait Identifiers (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/optional-animation-standards-138791.0.html), and I did as many of them as I could. Additionally, some of Pupa's winquotes will trigger based on these traits, so if, say, your character is a cute/sexy male and has those traits plugged in, she'll do her infamous "Ups!" winquote. Anyway, nothing huge, just hoping to revive more interest in an optional standard that is really fucking easy to code.

DOWNLOAD (http://network.mugenguild.com/jango/chars/pupa.zip)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 15, 2015, 09:30:41 am
Link is 404 Not Found
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: MrChris on February 15, 2015, 09:32:50 am
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April Fool's isn't until at least 2 months.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Formerly Hoshi on February 15, 2015, 09:36:33 am
Loving the banner because I love that artist.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Zemilia on February 15, 2015, 09:41:42 am
404. Link ded. Fix
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Snakebyte on February 15, 2015, 09:44:07 am
http://network.mugenguild.com/jango/chars/pupa.zip

Just needed a little creativity, yo.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 15, 2015, 10:09:15 am
Hah, whoops, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Formerly Hoshi on February 15, 2015, 10:16:12 am
Already fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on February 15, 2015, 04:07:16 pm
awesome was actually checking your wip thread yesterday really liked the beta so im definitly going to check this
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: drpepperfan on February 15, 2015, 04:10:26 pm
Awesome, very excited to try this out~
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: altoiddealer on February 15, 2015, 04:18:23 pm
Congrats on your release!

Jango Hakamichi said, February 15, 2015, 09:23:27 am
As a sidenote, this character has Messatsu's Character Trait Identifiers (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/optional-animation-standards-138791.0.html), and I did as many of them as I could. Additionally, some of Pupa's winquotes will trigger based on these traits, so if, say, your character is a cute/sexy male and has those traits plugged in, she'll do her infamous "Ups!" winquote. Anyway, nothing huge, just hoping to revive more interest in an optional standard that is really fucking easy to code.

I just heard of these myself about 2 weeks ago and think it's a great concept more people should be working into their characters.  In my WIP I am now detecting blood color traits, to trigger a different color anim if necessary
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on February 15, 2015, 07:38:25 pm
Never Played Rotd before but I think i would probably main her she is really fun to play and she have some pretty cool combo

Also about mario any chance to get a pallete template?
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 15, 2015, 08:49:40 pm
City_Hunter said, February 15, 2015, 07:38:25 pm
Never Played Rotd before but I think i would probably main her she is really fun to play and she have some pretty cool combo
From what I remember, she's one of the best characters in the game that is tournament legal (IIRC Kang and Alice are on the banlist. I forget Kang's reason, but Alice has an infinite), probably because she has so many options.

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Also about mario any chance to get a pallete template?
I wanna get more work done on Mario before I post it. Also I want to fix up a few things in the palette regarding color separation (ie: his shoes). But yeah, I'll eventually get one up.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Staubhold on February 16, 2015, 12:41:55 am
Very nice. Really enjoy Pupa!  :)

Some suggestions...

 - Swift Escape/Back & Forward Roll needs some sound effect & maybe even a voice from Pupa
 - all wrench attacks could benefit from some metall hit sound to give it more impact
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: MightyKombat on February 16, 2015, 12:51:58 am
I can't believe I actually recognize where that banner pic is fom.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: McDucky Potatoes on February 16, 2015, 12:57:45 am
MightyKombat said, February 16, 2015, 12:51:58 am
I can't believe I actually recognize where that banner pic is fom.

Full Banner pic is too easy to find.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 16, 2015, 02:01:36 am
Staubhold said, February 16, 2015, 12:41:55 am
Very nice. Really enjoy Pupa!  :)

Some suggestions...

 - Swift Escape/Back & Forward Roll needs some sound effect & maybe even a voice from Pupa
 - all wrench attacks could benefit from some metall hit sound to give it more impact
- Rolls are totally silent in ROTD, but I guess I could put something in there (like maybe the "HUH" sound she makes in the crouching forward light-kick move), since I've been super inaccurate with SFX so far.
- The only thing I think might be problematic with that is that the average character she fights against will be human, and a metal object hitting skin sounds like... well, something hitting skin. Of course I could always add an alt sound that plays if the opponent has identifiers 8055021 (is a robot), 8055025 (is a mech), or 8055041 (body/armor is made of metal). God I hope more people start using these.

Hoshi said, February 15, 2015, 09:36:33 am
Loving the banner because I love that artist.
MightyKombat said, February 16, 2015, 12:51:58 am
I can't believe I actually recognize where that banner pic is fom.
(http://i.imgur.com/Xo9FP7u.png)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Staubhold on February 16, 2015, 02:14:27 am
Jango Hakamichi said, February 16, 2015, 02:01:36 am
- Rolls are totally silent in ROTD, but I guess I could put something in there (like maybe the "HUH" sound she makes in the crouching forward light-kick move), since I've been super inaccurate with SFX so far.

Yeah, that would be nice

Jango Hakamichi said, February 16, 2015, 02:01:36 am
- The only thing I think might be problematic with that is that the average character she fights against will be human, and a metal object hitting skin sounds like... well, something hitting skin. Of course I could always add an alt sound that plays if the opponent has identifiers 8055021 (is a robot), 8055025 (is a mech), or 8055041 (body/armor is made of metal). God I hope more people start using these.

I was thinking something like p.e. Haggars pipe attack hit sound...



BTW... What happend to Mr. Jones? Will we see a update?
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Zemilia on February 16, 2015, 02:23:33 am
Jango Hakamichi said, February 16, 2015, 02:01:36 am
Hoshi said, February 15, 2015, 09:36:33 am
Loving the banner because I love that artist.
MightyKombat said, February 16, 2015, 12:51:58 am
I can't believe I actually recognize where that banner pic is fom.
(http://i.imgur.com/Xo9FP7u.png)

I don't, but now I'm curious.

Anyway, having fun with Pupa for now. Mainly due to the fact that her juggle combo (mainly using her supers as a juggle tool) is pretty cool to do. I'm still finding a way to combo to her multi-kick special (forgot the name).
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: MightyKombat on February 16, 2015, 02:48:58 am
MightyKombat said, February 16, 2015, 12:51:58 am
I can't believe I actually recognize where that banner pic is fom.
Jango Hakamichi said, February 16, 2015, 02:01:36 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Xo9FP7u.png)

MOTHER OF A

Jango you crazy

Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Insigniawarfare on February 16, 2015, 03:10:06 am
Such a great release Jango i'm enjoying her a lot.
I've notice a lot of her moves are limited in combos but i found a 50% corner combo with her
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/reality__2009/Pupa%2050%20Combo.gif)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 16, 2015, 06:19:18 am
Staubhold said, February 16, 2015, 02:14:27 am
I was thinking something like p.e. Haggars pipe attack hit sound...
Okay, so you mean more like the sound of it swinging before it hits. I could probably try it out (read: dig through TF2's sounds and add in the wrench swinging sound from the Engineer) (I don't know if I'm really going to use that effect, I'll have a look around)

Staubhold said, February 16, 2015, 02:14:27 am
BTW... What happend to Mr. Jones? Will we see a update?
Ah yes. I'm currently updating Mr. Jones around to make him more in-line with Pupa (ie: aesthetics, sounds, etc). The coding part is easy, but I'm considering remaking the SFF because it's currently a fucking mess right now.

Insigniawarfare said, February 16, 2015, 03:10:06 am
I've notice a lot of her moves are limited in combos but i found a 50% corner combo with her
Okay, million dollar question: What damage dampener are you using?

By default, I have her set to use ROTD's system, which behaves a bit differently than most fighting games' damage dampeners. Basically the way that it works is that once you get an opponent down to half of their health, all of Pupa's attacks only do 80% damage. When the opponent is down to a quarter of his health left, Pupa only does 62.5% of her normal damage. So basically if you attempted that combo while the opponent had less than half of his health, it would do significantly less damage. It's a really weird system, I know, but it works in the context of ROTD.

If you want something more conventional, I actually stole PotS' damage dampener for his KOF chars as an alternative that you can configure.
EDIT: Whoops not Vans, it was PotS. I was using Vans' earlier but I forgot that I switched over.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Insigniawarfare on February 16, 2015, 10:58:03 am
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Insigniawarfare said, February 16, 2015, 03:10:06 am
I've notice a lot of her moves are limited in combos but i found a 50% corner combo with her
Okay, million dollar question: What damage dampener are you using?

By default, I have her set to use ROTD's system, which behaves a bit differently than most fighting games' damage dampeners. Basically the way that it works is that once you get an opponent down to half of their health, all of Pupa's attacks only do 80% damage. When the opponent is down to a quarter of his health left, Pupa only does 62.5% of her normal damage. So basically if you attempted that combo while the opponent had less than half of his health, it would do significantly less damage. It's a really weird system, I know, but it works in the context of ROTD.

If you want something more conventional, I actually stole PotS' damage dampener for his KOF chars as an alternative that you can configure.
EDIT: Whoops not Vans, it was PotS. I was using Vans' earlier but I forgot that I switched over.

I'm using her default ROTD system. Also i just checked how much damage she does when opponent only has half their life which is like 35% and She does 50% when opponent health is full.
When using Pots dampener she does 35% damage when opponent health is full or at 50%.
When using no dampener she does 50% when opponent health is full or at 50%.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 16, 2015, 01:09:51 pm
I didn't really think anyone would turn the dampener off entirely! I guess I'll have to change some variables around to make sure it doesn't get disabled. ALTHOUGH your combo did make me realize that I accidentally screwed up the chaining for aerial moves (she's not supposed to be able to cancel moves in mid-air), so I'll fix that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: AlexSin on February 16, 2015, 01:13:40 pm
This happened:
http://vid1066.photobucket.com/albums/u402/GodofDeath94/Pupas%20bug.mp4
(recovery done with x+a, it's her evade command)

What happens: when sent flying, if I recover with x+a (evade), she rolls but stays below the ground level. It's shown from 0:04 of the video.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 16, 2015, 01:23:09 pm
Okay, caught that one as well. I'll post here again when I upload the fixes.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on February 17, 2015, 09:31:25 am
Pupa's been updated. Link is the same as on the first page, or you can download this nifty little patch file: Download (http://network.mugenguild.com/jango/pupapatch.zip)

Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on February 17, 2015, 06:24:19 pm
nice, I actually add some idea for mr.jones like a nunjaku win pose similar to fei-long win pose from sf2 and maybe an intro against fei-long similar to bruce lee fight against kareem abdul jabbar also dunno if you can use it like that but i tried to make a new default palletes fro jones since i did not really like the current one
(http://i.imgur.com/3wS4zCr.png)
Title: Pupa by Jango Released! SFF Updated!
Post by: Jango on February 18, 2015, 10:21:51 am
I wanted to avoid doing daily updates, especially ones where a small patch can't be applied, but earlier this morning, an enigmatic Guild user named jt sent me an updated SFF where he color-separated the wrench on all of Pupa's sprites.

(http://i.imgur.com/7q2amjh.png)

I updated all of the palettes to correspond to this, so all of the ones with funky shirt-colored wrenches now have more normal colors (or golden colors for the Famicom, Shiny, and Dillon palettes, or light purple for the Sam palette). So if you're a budding palette maker that was being held back by the shitty wrench/shirt sharing, your options have now greatly expanded!

@jt: thanks man
City_Hunter said, February 17, 2015, 06:24:19 pm
nice, I actually add some idea for mr.jones like a nunjaku win pose similar to fei-long win pose from sf2 and maybe an intro against fei-long similar to bruce lee fight against kareem abdul jabbar also dunno if you can use it like that but i tried to make a new default palletes fro jones since i did not really like the current one
(http://i.imgur.com/3wS4zCr.png)
The palette looks alright, but I'm going to need more time on that one. I think it needs a little more contrast

As far as the intros/winposes, that'd sound pretty cool although I'd probably have to commission someone to sprite those since I suck at doing that myself lol
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on February 18, 2015, 01:05:49 pm
Sweet update Jango! Thanks so much! >D
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Post by: GTOAkira on February 18, 2015, 06:48:44 pm
definitly grabing the update and hope you find someone to help you with jones dunno hwo much it would cost but i think sean altly would be a pretty good choice since he did make some custom sprite for lynn Baker you might also want to check boggy from kaiser knuckle he might give you some idea
(http://www.noe-v.com/images/articles/boggy01.jpg)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Koop on February 27, 2015, 12:00:46 pm
Very nice:

Kickback Feedback:

-There is delay before you can input a "counter hit" (guard cancel attack). Makes it difficult to stop multi hit attacks since she can only retaliate after the last hit in most cases
-Crush attack can only be done in close proximity of the opponent? Also could you make it more useful to make up for no First Impact please. :P
-Real Beat can't be cancelled into
-While the wrench can be negated, it cannot negate projectiles. If two Pupas throw their wrenches at each other, they just pass through.

That's all I could find. She's really (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/koopakoot/penguin.gif)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on March 06, 2015, 06:15:15 am
Woah how did I miss this?! Pupa and her patch file have both been updated:

- Bencao's wrenches can now cancel out enemy projectiles and themselves when they hit. Whoops.
- Crush Attack has a few more invincibility frames at startup.
- Fixed a bug where you could only do Crush Attack next to an opponent. That's what I get for copy-pasting the coding for the Guard Cancelling. :P
- Speaking of Guard Cancelling, added a slight pause for the opponent that lasts until the kick hits the opponent, so that Pupa will be able to hit the opponent 99.99999% of the time (I'm not saying 100% just because there may be oddities like the opponent having a ridiculous amount of red clsn and hitting from a distance where Pupa cannot reach)
- Real Beat can now be cancelled into.
- Not really a bug, but I accidentally listed Kong twice in my credits so I fixed that and added Koopakoot to the Bug Hunters list.

I have some other stuff ready (read: custom animations for some characters' special moves), but I'm going to wait until after February's Character of the Month (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/character-month-february-2015-nominations-165414.0.html) is over, because I imagine that people that looked over Pupa initially will be downloading her now, so I don't want to put anything major in her that wasn't there prior to March. Just bugfixes for now.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: mpower on March 06, 2015, 08:23:46 am
Nice Pupa :thumbsup:
I like ROTD.Thanks for sharing!!
Title: Pupa Updated!
Post by: Jango on April 02, 2015, 11:43:10 am
As promised, here's an update! The patchfile isn't updated, but the main download on the first page is.

Nothing really in the way of gameplay tweaks, but I do have a bunch of new things!
First the not-so important. I made a few optional alt palettes based on video game consoles, following in the footsteps of Pupacom.

(http://i.imgur.com/w2ufXaR.png)(http://i.imgur.com/ypK6J61.png)(http://i.imgur.com/qZVgwo5.png)(http://i.imgur.com/NfRKAQf.png)
(Atari 2600, Sega Mega Drive, Super NES, and XBOX 360)

DOWNLOAD CONSOLE PALETTE PACK (http://network.mugenguild.com/jango/chars/pupaconsole.zip)
A step up from that, I added a shitload of compatibility to optional animation standards.

Spoiler: the optional anims (click to see content)
Last but not least, since Pupa won COTM 2015, I decided to offer my own way of recognizing the other nominees.

(http://i.imgur.com/rNtiRUN.png)

Every character that made it to the voting round will have a little heart explod displayed during Pupa's intro. In addition to that, they all get unique winquotes as well:

(http://i.imgur.com/bCiO7Qd.png)
(vs Morrigan, obviously)
So that takes care of that, I hope you like this little something I whipped up, and as usual, if you find anything, let me know.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: MotorRoach on April 02, 2015, 12:52:55 pm
Oh my god, I didn't even know some of these animations existed. Wonderful~
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: drpepperfan on April 02, 2015, 01:04:29 pm
Oh wow is that Midnight Bliss Cerebella? Awesome.

I'm not sure what that winquote means though, the english/grammar seems a bit weird in it. I just might not understand it though.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on April 02, 2015, 01:40:33 pm
Yup, it's Cerebella. I figured that the two both have kinda have the same "tragic past but happy-go-lucky otherwise" so I told MotorRoach to make Pupa look like Cerebella. Plus the style normally dictates that the women look sexier, but she's not overtly sexy in general so I wanted to keep it a bit more subdued but still look good.

Also, Rage of the Dragons is notorious for its terrible English, which doesn't bode well for Pupa who is canonically really bad at speaking English. Most of her winquotes are barely intelligible, so I tried my best to word things as awkwardly as possible without losing the meaning.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Staubhold on April 02, 2015, 01:57:41 pm
Great update Jango. Thanks!
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: drpepperfan on April 02, 2015, 02:18:41 pm
Ah I see, that's actually awesome.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on April 02, 2015, 03:46:00 pm
wow thats a great update the character is even more better
Definitly waiting for Mario and Jones
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Xenomic on April 03, 2015, 10:40:25 pm
Interesting take on the Midnight Bliss. I highly approve of it, it works out very well for her. Wouldn't have ever thought of that for her myself heh.^^

Will look forward to more optional animation updates for her, if you do decide to do them~
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on April 10, 2015, 08:09:55 pm
Alright so dont know if you are accepting palletes but since im having a hard time understanding how to make palletes with ff3 im just going to post them here
(http://i.imgur.com/wJtEyeo.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/w8eFyfY.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/G9WKVvd.gif)
dunno if you can use them like that
keep the great work
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on April 13, 2015, 07:33:07 am
Oh shit forgot to check Pirate's Cove this thread.

Those are pretty cool! I like the RBFF Duck King palette (Pupa's existing Duck King palette is based on his appearance in KOFXI). I might do another palette pack in the future for any fan-submitted palettes.

Yes that is an open invite for Guild in general for mo' palettes >:)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Koop on April 13, 2015, 11:28:01 am
I should colour separate her so everyone will have to make palettes for her again. >:)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on April 13, 2015, 06:56:21 pm
thats nice a simple separation would give more palletes option something like this one based on the girl trainer on FR and LG
(http://i.imgur.com/4kB0k1R.png)
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on April 14, 2015, 01:05:59 am
Not an update, but walt just sent me a PM telling me that I forgot to credit him for the alt smallport. I coulda sworn I did, but apparently not, and I also apparently forgot to show y'all how to use it. Sorry, walt! The credit will show up on the next update, but until then, here's how to try it out.

1) Open up Fighter Factory
2) Navigate to sprite 9001,0
3) Change it to be sprite 9000,0
4) I guess change the original sprite 9000,0 into 9001,0?

If you did that right:

(http://i.imgur.com/nMLwhD7.png)

So if you like your small portraits to share palettes with... well, your current palette, and you like original spriting, there you go!
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: GTOAkira on April 16, 2015, 02:25:28 am
While waiting on that pack here another pal I forgot to post last time
(http://i.imgur.com/QeTDa1p.gif)
Dunno if all the Rotd character are like that but it is really fun to make palletes for her
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on April 17, 2015, 02:16:07 am
I can tell you for one that Pepe is a pain in the ass. His eyes share colors with the lightest color on his pants, so in-game, every palette has white pants (Pupa's eyes are skin-colored). So if I ever make him, I will personally color-separate each and every eye pixel.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: TempestSageJDJ on April 17, 2015, 04:41:11 pm
Koop said, April 13, 2015, 11:28:01 am
I should colour separate her so everyone will have to make palettes for her again. >:)

I actually did plan on separating her, before I got lazy. If you decide to I can pm you my idea.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Jango on May 28, 2015, 08:02:12 am
KOF expert Vans took some time off of making another KOF character to try Pupa out, so I fixed most of the bugs he mentioned, so that makes this update a bit more substantial than it originally was going to be.


One thing I wasn't able to fix was the ability to have access to jumping attacks just by pushing up and an attack. I was assured this is possible with the custom command buffering system he developed. While I am excited for some of the prospects that it offers (ie: ROTD-style tag team action), I'm going to wait until all the kinks are taken care of before making the jump.
Title: Re: Pupa by Jango Released!
Post by: Staubhold on May 30, 2015, 03:05:57 am
Thank you for this "compatibility festival" update.  :sugoi:

"Killscreen" working nicely, tried it in "vs" & "Arcade" mode.