Art & Entertainment => Entertainment => Topic started by: Retro Respecter on May 14, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
Title: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 14, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
With Arrow, The Flash, and the soon coming Supergirl, Vixen and Legends of Tomorrow, DKDC and I thought that now would be a good time to start a thread concerning the DC Television universe. Feel free to discuss anything related to the DC Television Universe here.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 14, 2015, 11:25:31 pm
I don't think Supergirl is going to be part of the same universe as Arrow, Flash and LoT, those are CW shows and Supergirl is by CBS. I expect we're getting the movie universe, the CW universe, and then Supergirl... That one can probably stay in the "everything else" topic if there's no connection. Oh, but there is a fourth series in the CW verse, the cartoon with whatshername, the black chick who gets the power of animals.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 15, 2015, 12:43:34 am
Her name is Vixen.
I updated the 1st post.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 15, 2015, 01:02:31 am
Actually.. they did say that Supergirl would be part of the Arrow Flash universe. They hav the same producer i think also
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2015, 01:23:59 am
Really ? That's weird, that would mean that there has been a Superman flying around during the Arrow and Flash series, and it's always sounded like Flash was the first time superpowers appeared.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Titiln on May 15, 2015, 02:15:36 am
pretty weak op, should have more information on each show (in comparison to the absolute nothing it currently has)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Luis Alejandro on May 15, 2015, 05:08:46 am
Season finale of arrow was wack den bitch
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on May 15, 2015, 02:51:37 pm
Yeah right... We got fight of Oliver vs Ra's where we didn't know who is who because the same costiumes. When Oliver delivered final blow I laughed so hard because you could clearly see sword under Rha's armpit...
Overal Arrow turned into shit since the moment where Rha's killed Oliver. I am supposed to believe that some herbs revieved him ? Using Lazarus Pit could' been more logical choice. And that's just the tip of iceberg. Show was so full of plotholes & logical errors so I started treatiing it more like parody or comedy so I could keep watching smoothly. It's shame really because S02 was pretty great with Deadshot & all (anyone remember that awesome episode inside Queen's Mansion) ? They started listening their retarded fanbase at CW who wanted more "feelings" and Olicity instead suspense & action and this is the result - pretty weak show for teens. Oh and they pretty much copied whole Batman storyline, and some real antagonists of Green Arrow were reduced to the "monsters of the week". Sad.
Flash got much better, and I don't really understand why. I heard that writing team that was behind of S02 of Arrow was moved to The Flash so maybe that was the reason... I only kept wathing Arrow because of crossovers. They kind reset whole story in the finale so S04 could be better as long there will be good writers. We'll see.
As for Legends of Tomorrow trailer it looks suprisingly good. I didn't have many expectations but this can turn into something great especially with 13 episode season without fillers & shit.
Supergirl looks like some light girly comedy for teens but maybe it will get better with time. Black Jimmy Olsen looks weird as shit (do they have to change race or gender of iconic character all the time lately ?). I'm still not sure if I'm gonna be watching although Melissa Benoist is very pretty and seems to be good actress and Calista Flockhart is in so maybe ? Still I don't get how they want to make Supergirl show without Superman, especially since they are hinting he's out there somewhere. I wish they could convince Tom Welling from Smallville to guest as Superman. That could been dope
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 17, 2015, 06:19:02 am
There's a balance to be struck in how much they reference/depict Superman (because it will necessarily overshadow the superhero who is actually the star of the show), but Superman really shouldn't be appearing much in the show, I think. Apparently they've not even cast anyone yet and are just using a stand-in, which seems good enough for now. He can always appear in a season finale or something.
Actually.. they did say that Supergirl would be part of the Arrow Flash universe. They hav the same producer i think also
It's unclear; that same creator/producer recently said in an interview that they weren't going to be doing any crossovers in the immediate future, and the fact that they're on different networks makes crossovers harder to do (though it's not impossible). The second trailer for Supergirl gave her the line saying something like "now this world has more than one hero," which also doesn't help (though it can be worked around pretty easily; Arrow wouldn't be seen as being on the same level of Superman because he's just a dude with arrows with multiple run-ins with the law, and the first season of the Flash could always take place after Supergirl's first season or something).
As for the other DC shows, there's also been talk about crossing over with Constantine, but nothing concrete; I do seem to remember that Gotham doesn't take place in the same universe as the other DC shows, though.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on May 17, 2015, 06:44:48 am
Yeah, while I can imagine Constantine, Arrow, Flash and Supergirl taking place in the same universe, it's be impossible for Gotham to, unless they wanted to make batman 20 years younger then oliver, which would be stupid.
Anyway, I really am hoping we see Cyborg Superman. I love the Concept, look and everything about the character in general, so I would love to see him in something. (Since the New 52 version really sucks)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 17, 2015, 11:19:12 pm
Gotham is almost certainly in its own universe, but it's also got the DCAU/Archer style anachronism going on where its unclear what time period its in, so if they wanted to make it fit they could. We know Batman's a part of the CW-verse because there's a Wayne/Queen merger happening in the future.
Speaking of which, Stephen Amell says he's worn the Arrow suit for the last time. (https://comicbook.com/2015/05/15/stephen-amell-says-hes-worn-the-arrow-suit-for-the-last-time/) Of course he has to mean the traditional Arrow suit, as we can plainly see he's wearing a different costume in the Legends of Tomorrow trailer. Guess we can call that the Green Arrow suit?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Luis Alejandro on May 21, 2015, 05:23:14 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
season finale of flash was good but that cliffhanger ending kinda just shrugged off eddies sacrifice and all lol. Im also very mind fucked..because although they've shown reverse flash being erased from history...hes still alive at some point in the future to fight a future version of flash in the past...so yea. Barry shaking his head to his younger self confirms this.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 21, 2015, 09:40:59 am
Yeah, that was just full of whaaaaaat
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Future Barry already knows that present Barry is there so it's not just a secondary timeline but the third or fourth, then there's the time machine (I didn't understand why they needed that) and the Rip Hunter namedrop (too soon IMO, probably related to the incomplete explanation about needing a time machine), future Barry pretty much telling present Barry to not do anything, Eddie, Jay Garrick's helmet, that black hole, the cliffhanger.. You don't know whether to shake your head at how fucked up it got, or to hop around in fanboygasm. Oh, but I do still like Eddie's character since last time. Things got pretty cool there.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 21, 2015, 01:10:59 pm
Cavanagh's acting was so awesome this whole episode. He had some of the best parts. Loved the part when the helmet came flying through. His response means he knows who it belongs to?
Also, it now seems that CBS has blocked any crossover with Supergirl for the time being.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Incase anyone missed some of the stuff
Caitlin as Killer Frost looks hawt.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 21, 2015, 01:54:27 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Oh yeah, that Killer Frost tease too ! As for Reverse Flash - that's a really new take on the concept, yeah. Pretty great for an adaptation.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 21, 2015, 04:35:34 pm
That finale is everything I love about comic book stories in condensed form.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
-Did future Barry stop present Barry because he'd already been through a Flashpoint style event? -Caitlin as Killer Frost, a shade of things to come or an alternate timeline? -We're finally moving forward on Cisco as Vibe, but I love how Wells spoke about his destiny so begrudingly. -Jay's helmet coming through the gap and the subsequent "That's my cue to go" reminds me of Geoff Johns run on Flash (Wally West) years ago. Eobard showing up to mess with Wally always meant Barry was two steps behind on the cosmic treadmill to stop him. I wonder if Jay's going to be the one to fill that role? -Speaking of which, I guess the particle accelerator's going to be the cosmic treadmill.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 22, 2015, 09:40:34 pm
Supergirl pilot eeewwwwwww. Good thing they're keeping it off the CW verse for now. (in short ? An hour's worth of Cat Grant's speech from the trailer)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 08, 2015, 12:13:38 am
Well fuck this shit http://comicbook.com/2015/06/07/constantine-is-now-dead-according-to-executive-producer-daniel-c/
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 08, 2015, 06:07:54 am
Constantine was on the wrong network.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 08, 2015, 06:29:48 am
It really was, it would have thrived on a cable network where it could have gotten away with a little bit more.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 12, 2015, 02:13:08 pm
Green Arrow costume confirmed for new Arrow season! get fucken hype
(http://i.imgur.com/u6PUwcx.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Titiln on July 16, 2015, 09:18:40 pm
edge is atom smasher (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKDhap-WcAAnICx.jpg) http://comicbook.com/2015/07/16/the-flash-to-introduce-wwes-adam-edge-copeland-as-atom-smasher/
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 17, 2015, 05:11:56 am
Evil, old Atom-Smasher? :-\
(I assume this Atom-Smasher is gonna be like the uncle or father of the actual Albert Rothstein, replacing the "super villain grandfather" backstory)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: walt on July 17, 2015, 03:35:53 pm
Quote
In the comics, Atom-Smasher is a hero. Al Rothstein, grandson to the villain Cyclotron, is godson to Al Pratt, the Golden Age hero known as The Atom before Ray Palmer took on the name. Prior to becoming Atom-Smasher, Rothstein operated as Nuklon.
Those names ... x_x
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on July 21, 2015, 09:10:11 pm
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 21, 2015, 10:14:09 pm
SDCC season 2 teaser
The SDCC panel
In short : Zoom's up, faster than Flash and Reverse Flash, Flash gets a new power, a bunch of characters should jump from Earth-2, Tom Cavanagh is coming back, and again, playing two different roles (I love it), Wally West is confirmed for the full speedster trio with Jay Garrick, plus Patty Spivot replacing Eddy as Flash's ally at the head of the police station (though she's probably not getting her speedster powers this season), Caitlin is likely to split off and end up as Killer Frost, and Cisco is likely to go all Vibe with the ability to remember when someone changed the past. Well, that's a lot.
Also, the black speedster with blue electricity in the teaser, some people are thinking that's not Zoom but the Black Flash, not a person but an omen that a speedster is going to die, the personification of Death for speedsters. ... I dunno. But I don't see why Zoom would appear black like that, either. If that's it, I hope it gets a better spin than "it's the Grim Reaper, but for speedsters". Something like, I dunno, the remnant image of a speedster appearing back in time when he dies ? No idea if that's ever been done.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 21, 2015, 10:57:41 pm
..isnt zoom eobard thawne aka reverse flash?!?!?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 21, 2015, 11:06:02 pm
Professor Zoom can be a different persona, if only one from Earth-2. Or they'll just find a way to walk around season 1 final, and say he found a way out in a different branch of history, and in that branch, he picks up the name Zoom. It shouldn't be much of an issue. I dunno if I'd prefer Cavanagh to play a different character altogether or the same Thawn as S1. He was awesome, particularly his portrayal in the last few episodes (the love/hate relationship, and Cisco's death too) but a full repeat of S1 would probably be a really dumb idea.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 22, 2015, 02:29:38 pm
What if it isnt Black Flash, what if its Eddie come back as Cobalt Blue?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 22, 2015, 02:37:12 pm
The actor left the show and is already in a different series, so no.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2015, 05:18:10 am
In the comics, Atom-Smasher is a hero. Al Rothstein, grandson to the villain Cyclotron, is godson to Al Pratt, the Golden Age hero known as The Atom before Ray Palmer took on the name. Prior to becoming Atom-Smasher, Rothstein operated as Nuklon.
Those names ... x_x
It's not that much odder than Superman, or Batman, or any other crazy name!
In the modern era, Eobard Thawne usually is referred to as just the Reverse-Flash (as opposed to this mouthful: Professor Zoom, the Reverse-Flash) in order to differentiate him from the Wally West Flash era villain/anti-Flash, Zoom. This Zoom was a police officer and friend of Wally's, but a series of personal tragedies caused him to attempt time travel using the Flash's Cosmic Treadmill, which unfortunately backfired him and gave him the ability to control the flow of time around him: essentially giving him super-speed that's even faster than the other Flashes (but because he's still running at normal speeds, relative to himself, he doesn't have any of the fancy powers other speedsters get from various different applications of superspeed, like vibrating through walls and such). Zoom isn't a straight up villain, though, he wants to help the Flash be a better hero, but he believes the only way to do that is to inflict tragedy upon the Flash.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Roman55 on August 06, 2015, 03:04:29 am
The live action image is dumb, nobody runs with the arm in the front on the same side as the leg that's moving forward >:(
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 12, 2015, 05:53:55 pm
it's Taichi bagua so he can accelerate faster.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2015, 07:20:09 pm
Could be worse, they could have both arms behind.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 13, 2015, 04:40:56 am
like the saints? I still don't understand why the saints are so slow at running when they can move at light speed.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on August 13, 2015, 09:37:57 am
Saints, Naruto, and most other shounen heroes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on August 25, 2015, 11:15:00 pm
Major news has come up. Jessie Quick has been cast for Season 2 of The Flash. Don't believe me? Read this (http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-flash-casts-jesse-quick-for-season-2) and this (http://comicsalliance.com/flash-season-2-jesse-quick-tokamak/). I wonder what her costume will look like...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on August 26, 2015, 04:22:45 am
3X2(9YZ)4A!
Also, thank you for including two links, Uche. I wouldn't have believed you otherwise.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on September 02, 2015, 01:30:36 am
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/31/tony-todd-cast-as-zoom-for-the-flash-season-2/ So Zoom is not Cavanagh's Thawn, meaning that Cavanagh's double role is likely to just be Thawn/Wells again (instead of Thawn/Zoom as I would have expected) who managed to come back one way or another. ... Is that right ? I don't know why he'd keep the Wells persona, so maybe there's still another twist coming.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 04, 2015, 02:52:16 am
John Diggle is "suiting up" in the next season of Arrow. Click here (http://comicsalliance.com/arrow-season-4-diggle-costume-helmet/) for more information.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2015, 08:25:32 pm
It's really, really hard to shake the image of Magento's helmet from one's mind upon seeing Diggle's new helmet. :-\
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on September 04, 2015, 08:33:06 pm
It's really weird that they're going with a design as groovy as that without it being a reference to something. I can only think it'll be something temporary that will evolve into something specific. That or Arrow is crashing back to "season 1 first half" level of lame.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2015, 08:40:50 pm
I had seen a few articles pop up a few months back saying there were rumors that he would become the Guardian, and the helmet does sorta look like the design from Young Justice... (http://i.imgur.com/nGYZ2Y7.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 04, 2015, 10:26:40 pm
That is a 100% better idea than making him Green Lantern because he's black and his name is John
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 11, 2015, 07:49:14 pm
Hawkman and Hawkgirl revealed (minus wings): (http://i.imgur.com/UMWKWiG.jpg) maaaaaaaaaaaaan, what's even the point of Hawkman if he's not gonna be shirtless?
bird helmets look nice, though
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 11, 2015, 08:58:02 pm
This is how they ground their heroes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 11, 2015, 10:38:22 pm
Clever pun.
I wonder what made then decide to move away from the traditional colors? They haven't shown an aversion to yellow or green in the past. Could it be as simple as "hawks are brown, duh"?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 11, 2015, 10:47:38 pm
I like those. I really like them, specially Hawk Girl. But yes, we need Hawkman to appear shirtless at least 50% of the time in the show... for... scientific reasons. Yes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: lui on September 14, 2015, 01:21:40 pm
ladyboners are always better than regular boners, bring on the shirtless hawk!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Mgbenz on September 14, 2015, 02:49:24 pm
Hiding Falk Hentschel's sexy bod is an injustice yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/LMxMdVJ.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 15, 2015, 09:11:10 pm
But like, seriously, the whole point of Hawkman (at least, the Golden Age, Carter Hall version, aka the version the show is using) is that he's a savage barbarian type character, who can fly. That's why he doesn't wear a shirt and wields medieval weaponry! The leather outfit is a good match for that aspect, but I think the design would work stronger if he was just wearing the harness and not the shirt.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on September 16, 2015, 03:59:30 pm
would you be able to focus on the show with that much lewd on screen?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Iced on September 16, 2015, 04:05:32 pm
But like, seriously, the whole point of Hawkman (at least, the Golden Age, Carter Hall version, aka the version the show is using) is that he's a savage barbarian type character, who can fly. That's why he doesn't wear a shirt and wields medieval weaponry! The leather outfit is a good match for that aspect, but I think the design would work stronger if he was just wearing the harness and not the shirt.
Trying to justify power fantasies with logic is problematic. You could have just said that you want to see hot guys, explaining hawkman shirtless as being proper to his character reminds me of the explanations for powergirl shirt hole.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 16, 2015, 10:09:26 pm
I don't think it's inherent to the character in the way that, I dunno, Batman's costume is, but the shirtless barbarian look is a good visual shorthand. The outfit they have in the show conveys the same general sort of thing too, but not as well.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Santtu on September 19, 2015, 03:26:16 am
DC Entertainment To Give Classic Batman Writer Credit in 'Gotham' and 'Batman v Superman'
So that's why it's called "Dawn of Justice".
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan I was literally about to post that (in another thread but whatever) >:[ well whatever, I'm gonna post the rest of the stuff I was planning on including.
This is really great news, Bill Finger's role in the creation of Batman and his mythos has far, far too long been denied. It has been completely outrageous that it has taken this long to get the modicum of respect they're giving him now. Bob Kane, the nominal sole creator of Batman, was a lying, thieving hack. He barely created anything: at best, he came up with the name "Batman". Literally everything else comes from Finger, as this wonderful comic by Ty Templeton shows (http://i.imgur.com/gOzR6qL.jpg) (https://tytempletonart.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/giving-comics-the-finger-bun-toons-yay/) or, to put it another way: (http://comicsalliance.com/ask-chris-164-bob-kane-is-just-the-worst/)
Chris Sims said:
If I have to grit my teeth and give Kane even the slightest amount of credit, I will say that he was the one who wrote the word “BAT-MAN” down on a piece of paper and drew a character wearing a red suit with a domino mask, blonde hair and a pair of bat wings. All Finger really did was come up with the color scheme, the costume, the cape, the cowl, the idea that he shouldn’t have any superpowers, the origin story about his parents being shot in an alley, the idea that he’s a detective, the words “Batmobile” and “Gotham City,” Robin, the Joker, Catwoman, and a few other minor elements.
Kane was pretty awful. He also barely drew any of the Batman stuff he's given credit on; instead, he employed a host of ghost artists at pitiful wages, all the while taking all the credit and the profits (Kane, unique among his Golden Age peers, negotiated a very generous contract that gave him profit sharing). And there's that time he tried to pursue some art that really spoke to him, with deep meaning: (http://www.chud.com/community/t/96681/bob-kane-story) sad paintings of clowns. The late, fantastic comic book writer Arnold Drake recalled one time when Bob Kane showed off his gallery: a whole host of sad clown paintings, all signed "BOB KANE". Kane was so proud of those paintings, truly believing they were his ticket to being taken seriously in the art world. Which is pretty funny, because soon after Drake saw them, he heard that Bob Kane was being sued by the artist who actually painted those clowns.
Or what about that AMAZING story (https://storify.com/aboynamedposh/jim-steranko-s-awesome-bob-kane-story) of comics legend Jim Steranko being confronted by Kane (who thought Steranko was overly generous to Finger and Robin/Joker co-creator and ghost artist Jerry Robinson, when discussing the origins of Batman in a book), who then cuffed Steranko across the face as he walked away. The next time Steranko saw Kane:
Jim Steranko said:
Around noon, I found him in another group, which I walked into. "Good to see you, Bob, baby!" I said, then bitch-slapped him across the face.
(Jim Steranko is fucking amazing). There's a lot more horror stories about Kane, ones that don't have happy endings like these ones. Kane ratted out Superman creators Jerry Siegal and Joe Shuster about their plans to try and wrest control of their character from DC (they wanted to try and renegotiate better page rates and royalties), which led to them being fired. Kane himself got a contract with the very things Siegel and Shuster were seeking, as a reward. Bill Finger died penniless and forgotten because Bob Kane refused to share credit, and even had it mandated in his DC contract that DC could never, ever credit anyone else as a co-creator of Batman. Seriously, fuck Bob Kane.
Title: Re: DC Comics Universe (maybe discussion?)
Post by: Jmorphman on September 20, 2015, 04:53:43 am
It's everyone's favorite android superhero, a long time member of the most preeminent superteam in the universe! No, I don't mean the Vision, I'm talking about the other red-skinned artificial human who cries a lot, Red Tornado! (http://i.imgur.com/fRlKeUb.jpg) I'm not really feeling the costume but the helmet thingy and face makeup looks good? I dunno. Still, nice to have more DC characters popping up in Supergirl.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 23, 2015, 03:55:26 am
This show looks really promising! I'm really impressed by the level of FX they're able to do on a TV budget.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 23, 2015, 03:57:49 am
That video is no longer available. :( I am sooo looking forward to that show, though. It will be so, but so good.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 23, 2015, 04:00:54 am
Oh darn, it must be US only. Does this work? (http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/supergirl-trailer-villains-footage/) EDIT: how about this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRgj2uZn-Dg)
I seriously don't understand the business strategy in limiting a *trailer* to a US only audience. :megaeyes:
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Neocide on September 23, 2015, 04:12:18 am
Maybe just paranoid from the pilot getting leaked. This show does look promising from what I've seen.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: rgveda99 on September 23, 2015, 04:31:41 am
As long as she's not that white trash (Miley Cyrus wannabe who keeps fighting with her team mates and does every wrong) Supergirl I'm fine with this.
And did I just saw a Blade 2 vampire and Ally Mcbeal?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2015, 10:32:39 am
Maybe just paranoid from the pilot getting leaked. This show does look promising from what I've seen.
No, lots of series do that, regionally restricting their trailers and even interview bonus videos. They just don't want to show it to other places, probably because they expect to sell it to local distributors and decide that those distributors should handle it for their country. It's not like other countries will watch the US version legally anyway.
I watched the Supergirl pilot when it leaked and I found that it was pretty much 40 minutes of that terrible Cat Grant speech from the original trailer. Also they're keeping it out of the DC TV universe.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 23, 2015, 11:34:33 am
Oh darn, it must be US only. Does this work? (http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/supergirl-trailer-villains-footage/) EDIT: how about this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRgj2uZn-Dg)
I seriously don't understand the business strategy in limiting a *trailer* to a US only audience. :megaeyes:
Yep, that worked. Loving what I saw so far. :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 29, 2015, 05:48:22 pm
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 09, 2015, 01:31:58 am
Season's on. - Flash is starting fine. Once more, all the shots and lines from the preview were from episode 1, okay. - Arrow : bad as usual. Dahrk walks in the room with city leaders meeting and explicitly fires death threats saying he's the leader of the evil guys, and nobody cares to shoot him in the goddamn face. "-I'll call security -nah, never mind" fuck you. The team is spying on the bad guys from an open roof, they have great view of everyone including Dahrk, Oliver shouts "move !" and they all drop down in the middle of the armed gang and start punching - fuck you, shoot them from the roof while they don't know you're here, starting with Dahrk. Lance ripping a new one on Oliver for bringing monsters in the city ? Fuck you, they were there before, they were about to earthquake the city when Oliver came in. But that big zoom on the chest of that guy wearing a pilot jacket with the tag "Jordan" in the flashback sequence.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 09, 2015, 03:05:38 am
Having duplicates from the other world could be very interesting for Flash. I have a feeling that the Killer Frost we see first won't necessarily be the Caitlyn we're used to.
I've also got theories on Cisco's inspiration for the Flash signal being something from the other world as well.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 09, 2015, 10:02:47 am
The bat signal ? He explicitly said he "read it in a comic book" (i.e. Batman)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 09, 2015, 04:10:48 pm
Ah, but what he actually said was "I don't know. I think I saw it in a comic book somewhere." Now of course that could be a throwaway line meant to wink at the audience and from anyone else it would be, but from Cisco...
(I freely admit I am most likely reading to far into it, but I had a lot of fun speculating about Flash last year)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 09, 2015, 04:32:06 pm
Eh, I just took it as "we can't namedrop him and obviously we can't say he doesn't exist in this universe" but I'd rather not expect anything about it or any follow-up.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on October 29, 2015, 01:04:50 am
So hey, Supergirl was pretty fun. It definitely had some pilot jitters and I'm still really not a fan of the superhero shows Greg Berlanti has created having pretty much every single memeber of the cast know the identity of said superhero, but it was pretty good and promising. Melissa Benoist is such a delight to watch as Supergirl, like seriously, she just radiates joy, which is really what's needed when playing a member of the Superman family of heroes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on October 29, 2015, 01:39:44 am
I need that show on netflix asap. :( No Supergirl fun for me till then. T_T
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on October 30, 2015, 09:03:01 pm
I know this post may bring some negative responses but well.
Here in Poland pilot of Supergirl got really bad reviews like grades between 4/10 - 5/10 and only because of Melissa Benoist who is awesome. I agree with them but let's get from the beginning.
When this show was announced and main role was cast I wasn't sure if I'm gonna watch it. I didn't know who Melissa was, and trailers looked Smallville s01-weak. Then leaked pilot came out and with so many negative reviews I planned to pass, even if I watch pretty much every superhero show with crappy Arrow (I loved s02 with Deathshot but season 03 was very bad). But then I watched "Whiplash" (awesome movie btw.) and I really like Melissa part. She was pretty, had some acting skills and she was really natural. So when pilot finally out officially I gave a shot even if I kinda expected to be bad.
So for pros, as as expected Melissa nailed it. She is absolutely great even if I still prefer Laura Vandervoort from Smallville as Supergirl. She is cute sweet, and funny when she is in shy-ckumsy mode. Maybe character was little to teeny for my taste but I liked it. Black Jimmy "James" Olsen was suprisingly good and had some chemistry with Melissa. It worked for most part. Still Jimmy was always shown as some geeky young guy with glasses and here we have a guy who look like black Russel Crowe.... Calista Flockhart as Kara's boss was also great but I expected that from former Ally McBeal (anyone remember that show ?)
As for everything else, well story have major flaws. I know we supposed to believe that Superman is out there but come on... He's like fastest guy on planet and he in all those years didn't have time to meet his cousin even for a brief moment ? He is so busy saving the world so he needs to send his human friends to watch over Kara ? Really ? It would been so much better if Superman would just gone from the planet (misterious dissapearing like in Superman returns) and Kara would pick up the mantle... Oh and "let's tell the first guy we know, about our secret identity, no matter the fact it might get him in danger... eventually" move was meh ? I can understand whole thing was meant to show how inexperienced Kara is about these things but still...
Action scenes were kinda amateurishy made... I thought for a second this show was made in 90's... Melissa clearly doesn't have experiences in fighting stuff and it shows. As for special effects they also weren't that great. I really felt like I was watching beginning of Smallville and that's not compliment. For example Flash had much better special effects, just look at s01 finale... And blue Heat Vision ? Seriously ? And there is a cliche peep talk during fight like "You can do it Kara!" I didn't know if I was supposed to laugh or feel ashamed because it was pathethic. Main villain was also big cliche. "I'm gonna rule of all earth" how original. And of course she had to be from Kara family and on top of that her mother's twin sister. Seriously who write this shit ? Once again Flash is example of making great believable villain. Monster of the week format also don't help but I understand this is most common way to set up continuous story.
Overall this show is made for teens and kids so I''m maybe too old for that show. After watching Daredevil and Agents of SHIELD (which I enjoy very much), my superhero tv shows standards went up high. I can't help but compare and Supergirl looks just plainy bad compared tho these two even though Agents were also bad in season one. And even if we don't compare or pretend they don't exist, there is Flash who also have this teeny funny feel and style like Supergirl, similar budget and tv channel and so on, yet it's so much better in almost every aspect.
I will continue to watch it because of Melissa and who knows maybe it will improve over time like Agents but this is my opinion so far. It's harsh but i've seen worse reviews of pilot in my country. I don't know maybe my opinion would been different if I'v been comc book/supergirl fan but sadly I'm not so yeah.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: R565 on October 30, 2015, 09:35:53 pm
Yeah, I actually have the same idea when I seen the show too. I am hoping that it gets better over time because it does have some good elements in it.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on October 31, 2015, 03:24:23 am
As for everything else, well story have major flaws. I know we supposed to believe that Superman is out there but come on... He's like fastest guy on planet and he in all those years didn't have time to meet his cousin even for a brief moment ? He is so busy saving the world so he needs to send his human friends to watch over Kara ? Really ?
I didn't get the impression that he never ever saw her again, but that they didn't see each other regularly. I would imagine they talk on the phone a few times a month, maybe get together for holidays (human or Kryptonian ones, though?).
The sending Kara to be raised by his friends thing, though, that's sorta baked into the premise of Supergirl. In every iteration Superman basically hands her off to someone (because it would change his status quo too much to be taking care of a teenager on top of everything else); I honestly felt like this version's handling of that was done pretty well. Like, the worst was probably the original Silver Age version, which had Superman telling a 16 year old who literally just witnessed everyone she ever knew die a long and painful death, his only family in the universe, his only surviving relative, to go live in an orphanage (!). And also hide her powers and don't do any superheroics, because she was Superman's "secret weapon" (!!!); she remained there for quite a few years and only acted, very rarely and in secret, as Supergirl.
But yeah, I dunno, this show's way of doing it, where Superman asked his close friends to look after 12-year-old Kara, worked pretty well for me. The showrunners have stated that they currently have no plans to feature Superman in anything beyond cameos, which is probably the best approach: he would overwhelm everything else. I dunno why but my mind immediately leaped to The West Wing as an example; originally it was planned that Martin Sheen's character (the President) would only appear in a few episodes, for brief moments, but he very quickly became the dominant character in the show. The good thing is that the Superman Family (Supergirl, Superboy, et. al.) are much much more independent characters than say, the Bat-family, so it doesn't have to feel very strained or weird that Superman is never around.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 05:55:24 pm
Woo ! I like Wells-2's new attitude, he's pretty aggressive and merciless. And Dr. Light, Vibe, Zoom's weird zombie mask, this is going hard in metahuman territory.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 05, 2015, 07:12:32 pm
I was actually totally surprised that they made Linda Earth 2's Dr. Light, but I realized later that it's totally meant to set up Killer Frost later on
Also the ramp-up to Legends of Tomorrow is definitely in full stride, we've got Hawkgirl working at the coffee shop, Sara's soul is back in her body and the Quest for Ray Palmer happening next week
Title: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 10, 2015, 03:37:47 am
SuperGirl discussion would go in this thread since it's not a part of Flash, Arrow, etc, right?
Anyway I'm really liking the show so far. But Kat is really getting on my nerves. I do hope they don't do a lot of mid air fights. That last fight scene looked horrible.
But so far it seems to have a lot of heart. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2015, 03:42:10 am
I think it works best in the DCTV thread even though a crossover doesn't seem super likely right now (but it is possible!).
Title: Re: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 10, 2015, 03:46:04 am
Okay, I'll move it there. Flash and Arrow are still on my to watch list so I've been avoiding that thread in fear of spoilers.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on November 25, 2015, 10:17:26 am
"I've seen men of steel die and dark knights fall"
Seems to be fun, wonder what their budget for the cgi is if they gonna be time travelling all the time
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 25, 2015, 03:33:45 pm
They've probably got more to work with, since this show is going to have a shorter season and CW is pinning a lot of hope on it.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on November 25, 2015, 04:50:57 pm
Okay, really liking what I saw there. Colour me interesting in this show.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 02, 2015, 10:08:29 pm
Holeeee shit... Vandal Savage was awesome.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on December 05, 2015, 06:38:47 pm
I really don't like this Hawkman, he's a bit of an idiot and not being actively relevant. I liked Michael Shanks' much better in Smallville at least for his personality ("think of me as your parole officer... but with a mace"). And holy shit stop making John Barrowman be such an insane complete jackass dumbshit so much.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on December 06, 2015, 04:55:46 am
I really don't like this Hawkman, he's a bit of an idiot and not being actively relevant. I liked Michael Shanks' much better in Smallville at least for his personality ("think of me as your parole officer... but with a mace"). And holy shit stop making John Barrowman be such an insane complete jackass dumbshit so much.
Yeah agreed on both accounts. Hawkman is kind of a douche + the girl who play Kendra can't act for shit too. Well DC definitely isn't marvel when it comes to casting... And they should REALLY decide if they want to make Malciolm an ally or an enemy because showing him as sort of good (?) guy and then switch it back to being a villain for cheap twist, is not fun anymore, Well, atleast both shows improved because of crossover (especially Arrow), even if it's just for a little bit. Oh and Damien Dhark is becoming parody of himself. All these speeches and magic stuff are supposed to be scary but they made me laugh instead. He is nowhere near scary and badass as Slade Wilson was.
Funny how they made most of Team Arrow basically useless in the episode. In the Flash they atleast gave Caitlin & Joe something to do, while in Arrow Diggle, Thea & Laurel were reduced to stand ins.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on December 09, 2015, 11:30:30 pm
What's that ? Arrow is ripping off everything Batman, but he doesn't have a Joker ? No biggie, the Trickster already has the very voice for the Joker to jump over to Flash ! Never was there a better casting match.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 10, 2015, 07:40:03 am
That was a disappointing Flash midseason finale to say the least
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on January 22, 2016, 09:44:51 pm
God damn it, Legends of Tomorrow has a really awful directing. They had two shows to introduce it, and yet the first episode is still super rushed, and everyone has to overact and sum up everything about themselves in a few lines, just to be sure everyone is starting on the right foot, then everyone has to toss a few lines of dialog but it has to be super fast because there's just so many of them. The only good thing that came out of that messy introduction is Palmer finally giving us closure on how the hell he took his death-and-return experience (thanks Arrow for completely forgetting he even existed barely a couple episodes later). (Oh, Gideon's back) See, Rip takes everyone to the ship and immediately takes off - and then he remembers to tell everyone to sit down (and suddenly, chairs). Or listen to him explain his invisible ship by saying "of course a time travel ship has to be made invisible" but right when he takes off, it's visible again, and he zooms over the city before time riding (and two guys see the ship). And Stein has to go and ramble about "think of all the possibilities ! Science ! Dinosaurs !" like no one's ever thought about that before. Good thing it only lasts ten seconds, because remember they all have to talk super fast to keep things moving.
Every passing minute is giving me one more reason to write this off as shit, and there's barely any meat on the story yet.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on February 03, 2016, 08:50:21 pm
It's actually happening: the Flash will crossover with Supergirl in an upcoming Supergirl episode in March! (http://hitfix.com/harpy/fans-rejoice-the-flash-is-headed-to-supergirl-this-spring) :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on February 04, 2016, 12:26:31 am
Oh hell yes. :D That will be awesome!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on February 17, 2016, 03:30:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uztpxgT.jpg) Azrael comes to Gotham. Still not understanding this show
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 17, 2016, 03:46:38 pm
Makes more sense than Mr. Freeze showing up already
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on February 24, 2016, 11:12:07 pm
Well that Zoom reveal...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 24, 2016, 11:43:48 pm
Yeah, this is going crazy. With two guys with the same face and name, the guy in the mask is likely a third one, so there's something really weird going on. Jay blames Wells for creating Zoom, so did something happen that cause a split like that, and when ? Right from the start (the accelerator accident), presumably ? Also if the one in the mask ends up being the original and the one that came to Earth-1 was a duplicate, it might be a bit shitty for Caitlin. I'm really liking how Cavanagh handled all these variations of his character too (as Thawne being patient for over a decade, then as Wells on a clock to save his daughter, and in hiding). With Martin (Joe West), there are some actors for who I really like how they approach their acting, it's quite a change from Arrow.
... Diggles freaking out with the meta stuff and the super speed was funny, but if he pulls it every freaking time he pops up, this is gonna get old fast (his reaction to King Shark was fine though, completely blanking out). Oh, and looks like the Suicide Squad movie killed not only TV Waller, but also her idea of using metas for her suicide squad :P
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: S. Jetstream on February 24, 2016, 11:49:24 pm
Earth 3 confirmated.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on February 25, 2016, 12:44:22 am
Sweet, a marvel and dc crossover confirmed (http://i.imgur.com/mKYKkkx.jpg)
Oh wait... its not JLaw as Mystique... its Indigo...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 25, 2016, 12:48:51 am
How is Supergirl? I watched the first couple of episodes and it didn't grab me, but the impending crossover has me curious again.
Also, all my Flash theories went out the window the second it became clear that Zoom unceremoniously dropped Jay's corpse on the ground. I got nothing.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on February 25, 2016, 03:36:21 am
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: S. Jetstream on February 25, 2016, 04:15:54 am
I apologise, it's common between some of my friends to talk english like dummies. "I often say Illuminati confirmated"
Neverminnd.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: HadeS on February 25, 2016, 03:34:20 pm
It's "confirmed". That's why he asked, Shao ^
I can't wait to see Mystique on Supergirl :P I started watching it because of the actress and it felt a bit meh at first but then it got better, even the CGI, it was a bit dull but I don't know if the same happens on Arrow, Flash or Legends of Tomorrow because I've never seen any of them yet. I will, eventually.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 25, 2016, 03:49:52 pm
Arrow tries too hard to be the dark Batman and it keeps dragging bad choices and piling up more terrible choices on top of that. Flash is awesome. It's like it looks at what Arrow does bad (family problems, emotions, hiding stuff to protect people !) and then decides to do it correctly just to show off and say "see, that's how you do it right !" Legends is completely fucked up stupid with contradictions (they try to get justice in the past ? You can't, time will try to fix itself and it will be useless ! NotIronMan loses a tiny piece of tech ? Projections : savage rules the world in 20 years ! At least Doctor Who explains it with fixed points in time) and terrible setups to screw with itself. They dumped a big budget for cgs so there's that, and while the characters make terrible decisions and thought processes, I guess the big focus is their interactions with each other, the missions that use combinations of this power and that skill. Supergirl is full of morons whose every decision and speech will melt your brain.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: HadeS on February 25, 2016, 04:45:25 pm
That was a brief but good summary. Thanks, Byakko! I'll keep those details in mind :)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on February 25, 2016, 11:41:56 pm
How is Supergirl? I watched the first couple of episodes and it didn't grab me, but the impending crossover has me curious again.
Supergirl is pretty great, but it runs into the same kinds of problems that turned me off Flash (dumb love triangles that lead to people acting incredibly stupidly for the sake of plot, among other). I'm sticking with it because of the sheer amount of joy and fun the show brings, and specifically because it's a one of a very few pieces of current day Superman-related media that doesn't completely and utterly miss the point of the character.
Spoiler: this was all over the news so it's probably pointless to mark this as a spoiler but even so(click to see content)
the addition, or rather, reveal of Martian Manhunter really made me happy, and he's been pretty great on the show. DC has essentially abandoned the character (outside of his soon to be cancelled solo book) so it's nice to see him getting some love. He deserves a lot more love than many of his other fellow Justice League founders!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 12:08:30 am
Flash does have relationship issues and family stuff and love triangles, but it doesn't last long, it gets called out on several occasions (I mean they seriously are put into question, the characters actually grow through them, not like Arrow who just hangs a lampshade over it but keeps it up for major angst and drama), and it gets resolved soon enough (the main one is over by season 1 and it only waited so long for a good reason, then a little bit on season 2 but also justified and made an integral part of the plot). By comparison, Arrow is still keeping up the same dumb shit on its fourth season.
John does come up as the one good thing in Supergirl, yeah, but all interactions between every character just burns my eyes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on February 26, 2016, 12:54:21 am
I mean, the love triangle thing was just an example. There's a lot more stuff that bugs me about both shows, like the way the secret identity is treated (simultaneously disposable, in that nearly everyone in the cast knows except for one or two people that are bizarrely kept out of the secret for no reason, but also of great importance to keep secret from everyone else in that world), or the weird secret prisons they keep metahumans/aliens in, or any of the other weird choices they've made in the adaptations.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on February 26, 2016, 01:30:59 am
more people come in an out of star labs as they please than from the freaking cofee shop!
two things i'm sure you'll agree is that iris is worst flash girl and that captain cold is the best husband part of LoT
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 01:34:59 am
The secret thing is also addressed (and blamed as "okay, it was stupid, what was I even thinking, it was pointless, won't do that again") by the time Iris finds out, and it shows up some more in Barry's personality in season 2, not as a plot point, but to actually build Barry's character (and well done, at least well explained), and again addressed and torn down. Also pretty fast, like, they mention it in one episode, then by the end of the next one, everything is resolved. Wally West is around in this season, he clashed with Barry, and after only a couple of episodes, boom, everything is on the table and things are getting resolved. The prison thing is weird in itself, but honesty, what else are you going to do with a guy that can control the weather or turn his body into a poison mist. It's a bit of a leap to accept it, but it's the least complex and most straight way to put everything away at the end of the episode. At any rate, it's definitely the only show where the characters are really likable and well played, and talk in a normal way and say the things you would expect them to say rather than flip out into superdumb.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on February 26, 2016, 01:45:03 am
I would expect them to do what every comic book universe does, and even Supergirl does (more or less): put the metahumans in specially designed prisons that neutralize their powers and not deprive them of due process any all their other rights but storing them in a secret prisons hidden from the world.
it's just a really odd choice that just leads to a bunch of unfortunate implications
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 26, 2016, 02:34:07 am
They started putting them in Iron Heights. The Star Labs prison is now just a holding cell until they get them to Iron Heights.
Of course there's been a lot of villain killing in this season that I wasn't a fan of.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 02:50:29 am
Oh right, the police has started getting involved in arresting metas since season 2 with a task force and weapons built by Cisco to neutralize them (not kill them), I remembered they mentioned Iron Heights once but I must've missed them pointing out that's where they all went now, and the underground prison hasn't gotten any focus. Also, even when they were still using the Star Labs prison, they did bring up the difficulty of holding them all, feeding them, and the issue with due process. So they're still addressing stuff and actually fixing them. For the villain killings, well, I don't remember who all got killed, but I think Zoom does most of it, or he's involved (I don't remember how the first one that grows giant died).
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on February 26, 2016, 04:35:02 am
1- giant guy was made to absorb lots of radiation until he died 2- sand guy was turned into a glass statue and shattered to pieces 3- captain cold has daddy issues 4- not-firestorm guy ran out of juice and forgot everything (shark guy gets sent to iron heights) 5- light girl.... escaped, i think 6- grodd is sent to earth 2 7- savage escapes to a different tv show 8- mark hammil steals the show 9- turtle guy is locked up in star labs for future plot but gets killed by wells right after 10- reverse flash's wibbly wobbly timey wimey adventure 11- tar guy gets knocked over and... is taken by the police? i dunno, they didn't show anything 12- bad ronny and bad cisco get killed by zoom. bad miss frosty's fate is unclear but most likely survived... somehow 13- shark guy is taken back to iron heights
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Luis Alejandro on March 04, 2016, 09:25:51 pm
man the end of that last episode Legends of tomorrow made me cry :(
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on March 29, 2016, 09:58:22 pm
Well I enjoyed Barry showing up and making weird faces whenever someone was saying something stupid and giving senior advice to Supergirl about everything.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Zer0Mojo on March 29, 2016, 10:10:05 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
The fact that Trajectory was a split personality makes me wonder about the whole jay/zoom thing.
I can't wait for the next episode. S1!weils , eddie , and black flash! :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 30, 2016, 03:06:21 am
Easily my favorite episode of Flash this season...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
...but it feels just a little too convenient that nothing changed except for Hartley after the wrecking ball that Barry just took to the timeline.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on March 30, 2016, 04:36:58 am
There needs to be a Crisis type event that gets Supergirl and Flash in the same universe. I don't care how confusing and impractical that would be, goddammit. That team-up was aces and I need more!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on April 10, 2016, 08:01:33 pm
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/10/flash-fans-are-reading-in-between-the-lines-and-finding-power-girl/ Apparently, after the crossover with Supergirl, the Flash guys said there should be a Kara somewhere on Earth-1 too. Surely not human and not with the same costume. Power Girl with the humor and realism they've got going in the Flash series god yes please.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on April 10, 2016, 09:45:40 pm
Finding an actress to fill that bra would be a challenge, but I'd be so down for a DCTU Power Girl series with proper humour set in the same universe as The Flash.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 11, 2016, 04:28:07 am
she'll wear an outfit without cleavage, but that still shwos that she has huge breasts. the joke will be that the breasts are part of the outfit.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Iced on April 22, 2016, 12:00:26 pm
Apparently the girl that does Supergirl was doing adult modelling before and the images have resurfaced, leading people into frothing outrage as they are trying to get dc to remove her for being " a bad example for little girls", Doubt they are going to get somewhere but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on April 22, 2016, 12:08:49 pm
can I have a link to the photos please? need to research the matter
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Iced on April 22, 2016, 12:10:32 pm
No. Keep it in your pants!!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on April 22, 2016, 12:23:58 pm
HHHHHHHGNNNNNN
Time for sum professional google fu maneuvers!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on April 22, 2016, 02:49:13 pm
this is nitta emi all over again!
except instead of angry fans we get angry soccer moms
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on April 22, 2016, 03:25:53 pm
I am almost sure Warner was aware of that when they hired her. And for a woman that pretty, easy way to make some money to pay college tuition is do some adult modelling. Doesn't surprise me the least, and I do hope Warner stick to her. She is the best Supergirl to date.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 07, 2016, 05:44:05 am
Supergirl hasn't been officially renewed yet, but it's a pretty safe bet. That said, there are currently some budget cuts being discussed right now. (https://deadline.com/2016/05/supergirl-season-2-renewal-move-vancouver-reduction-cost-cbs-cw-1201750208/) Even though the series is a big hit for CBS (it's their #1 new drama and IIRC overall their 3rd highest rated show) it costs a shitton of money to produce the show. One of the biggest budget problems is that it films in California (instead of the much cheaper Vancouver, where the Flash, Arrow, and pretty much every other sci-fi show films), so there's a very strong push to move production to Canada, which would open up a lot more crossover opportunities!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 09, 2016, 02:40:45 am
Budget shouldn't matter if it is this good.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on May 09, 2016, 02:57:49 am
I do hope the show is renewed for a second season. It is a delight to watch a member of the El Family actually thrive and enjoy saving lives and inspire hope instead of demolishing an entire city and kill hundreds of thousands of people and then be afraid of, you know, smiling and saving people.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 10, 2016, 01:40:09 am
Are you still reeling from the modern Superman movies?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on May 10, 2016, 04:45:27 pm
no, she is reffering to the 1950's serials
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on May 13, 2016, 01:10:00 am
And the currently best representative (because saving people rather than killing and terrorising them is fun and entertaining) of the house of El got her show renewed. And it will be moved to The CW. The show will live along The Flash and Arrow. HOORAY! But we don't have the CW here... :( I do hope they air it on Warner Channel like they've done with the first season.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on May 13, 2016, 04:39:08 am
well that's a good thing, i haven't really watched supergirl (except for that flash episode) but i'm still interested in it. might check it out once this season of flash ends and i have nothing to watch on tuesdays.
the only problem is that even if they are on the same channel they still won't be able to crossover (or not that easily) since it was already stablished that both series take place in completely different universes (but i'm sure they figuer something out)
But we don't have the CW here... :( I do hope they air it on Warner Channel like they've done with the first season.
we don't have CW over here either and supergirl airs on the warner channel as well, i'm sure they'll keep her in the same channel so no worries
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2016, 09:55:52 am
The move to The CW should (hopefully) allow the show to be a bit riskier and not make things so broad and procedural (CBS has a reputation for that type of shows, and guides the shows its airs to fit in that milleu). The only worry I had about it moving to Vancouver was that Calista Flockhart might not join the rest of the cast in the move (and indeed, the news out today say she was reluctant to make the move) but thankfully they were able to work things out and she'll stay on. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/supergirl-season-two-cw-892629) I was pretty cold on Cat Grant in the first few episodes, but she very quickly became one of my favorite characters on the show, so I'm really relieved she's staying on!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 13, 2016, 04:06:04 pm
I agree. Cat Grant came out as stuck-up and obnoxious. It was because of Supergirl that she changed so drastically.
Title: First Powerless tv series trailer is leaked
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 23, 2016, 08:56:42 am
First trailer
Looks good to me.. nice to see a DC comedy
Some of the easter eggs and references in the trailer http://moviepilot.com/p/easter-egg/3923782
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 24, 2016, 07:14:54 pm
The user removed that video, so I couldn't watch.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 25, 2016, 03:05:22 am
Spoiler: Re: The ending to tonight's Flash(click to see content)
OH SHIT BARRY WHAT DID YOU JUST DOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on June 10, 2016, 04:57:13 am
Casting for season 2 of Supergirl is underway for new series (http://screencrush.com/supergirl-season-2-lex-luthor-maggie-sawyer-casting/) regular Lena Luthor (sister of Lex, but not evil) and recurring characters Snapper Carr (former teen sidekick to the Justice League, who later became a mentor to teenage heroes) and Maggie Sawyer (a police officer who headed up Metropolis's metahuman crimes unit until she moved to Gotham to help launch their own special crimes division).
I'm a bit apprehensive about Snapper, who is described as "a veteran journalist", who will be heading up Catco's news division. Which certainly suggests a middle aged dude who will be a mentor to the central trio of characters and not anything at all like what Snapper is like in the comics. Naming original characters after a completely unrelated comics character is something that really irks me about DC's TV output (it should be said, though, that Marvel is guilty of this as well). Like, why even bother? Just name the character something else! They''re probably not even gonna have their version of Snapper Carr wear his awesome superhero logo shirts! (http://i.imgur.com/LKrsQgt.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/l8RNG1t.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ekGfvPS.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/CqH6iDj.jpg) oh yeah they're also casting someone for Superman (http://screencrush.com/supergirl-season-2-superman-cast/) :o
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Wolf on June 10, 2016, 05:13:10 am
can it be that after so many years we'll finally have a live action version of superman that doesn't make us cringe while shoving jesus parallels down out throats in every shot?!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on June 17, 2016, 02:01:46 am
Tyler Hoechlin will be playing Superman! (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/supergirl-casts-superman-season-2-903449)
he's definitely gonna do a better job than ol' Sadface McPouty over on the movie side
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on June 22, 2016, 12:00:06 am
And Lynda Carter will play the President of the United States! (http://www.eonline.com/news/774587/lynda-carter-officially-joins-supergirl-and-goes-from-wonder-woman-to-president)
Can't think of a better casting there. Lynda is amazing.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on June 22, 2016, 12:28:27 am
*joyful sobbing*
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 22, 2016, 12:42:50 am
can it be that after so many years we'll finally have a live action version of superman that doesn't make us cringe while shoving jesus parallels down out throats in every shot?!
I also support buddha superman.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Mgbenz on June 25, 2016, 05:34:54 pm
So yeah Arrow's tv ratings.
(http://i.imgur.com/IvgkDCq.jpg)
Dat complete nosedive in Season 4. Either they should cancel this stupid show or rename it to Olicity because that's what is is now.
But nope there's going to be a Season 5 and they say it's going to be "meaner".
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 12, 2016, 07:22:54 pm
Glad they didnt go with the New 52 version (http://i.imgur.com/6KUPCra.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tOjRjMi.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 12, 2016, 07:28:26 pm
The suit is nice, but his face is weird in that mask :S He looks really different from without it. (could be because he's not smiling though)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 12, 2016, 07:31:48 pm
This better not be some Flashpoint fakeout shit and they delay and delay things so much that only suits up for real in the finale. >:[
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 12, 2016, 07:40:24 pm
Hollywood Reporter says he'll wear it in the season premiere. No real way to know more than that since we don't even know what will stay after that first episode and how long the Flashpoint will last.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Mechy on July 12, 2016, 07:41:57 pm
That face is very goofy looking. (http://i.imgur.com/TPQyJYb.png)
Still don't have Flash on Netflix here. Infuriating.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 12, 2016, 07:53:05 pm
Like the costume, hate the boring box cut hair
Of course I realize that there's nothing to be done about that unlike the comics
Also yeah it wouldn't hurt him to smile, he's got an infectious grin he should capitalize on
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 14, 2016, 03:33:08 pm
Another speedster came to play (http://i.imgur.com/bignea1.jpg) Is that New 52 Reverse Flash?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 24, 2016, 08:15:39 am
:nuttrox: best superhero tv show coming back!!! What time to be alive
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2016, 07:31:29 pm
It-it's Superman!!! (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoGMYHHW8AAatZa.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoOKm-vWgAEtPQ3.jpg) It only took a couple of pictures of Tyler Hoechlin doing Superman—out of costume and on a panel, mind—and already I feel so embarrassed for the Henry Cavill Superman. It's just no contest between the two. Season two of Legends of Tomorrow will primarily be about the Justice Society of America vs. the Legion of Doom (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/legends-tomorrow-legion-doom-season-913953)!?!?!
The Legion of Doom is made up of old villains like Reverse-Flash, Captain Cold, Damien Dahrk, and Malcolm Merlyn. The JSA is where things get interesting: casting is now under way for members including Obsidian, Stargirl, and Dr. Mid-Nite!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: R565 on July 25, 2016, 07:49:39 pm
Good God...he just reeks of personality...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 25, 2016, 08:08:13 pm
Oh wow he looks spot on already
So looks like my favorite Flash, Bruce Wayne and Superman are all going to be on TV
Wonder if they can find some way to get Aquaman and Wonder Woman as well
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on July 25, 2016, 08:56:13 pm
That guy can give Brandon Routh a run for Superman, even. Really great casting there. He will be a great Superman, which makes me wish he will get a TV series of his own. Supergirl is pretty fun and it would be awesome to have a Superman who is joyful about saving people!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 28, 2016, 10:26:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/mi59vT8.jpg) this is so much better than the movies it isn't even funny. It's better than the one he has in the comics right now, even!
I just wish they'd use the trunks and the spit-curl!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 28, 2016, 10:33:54 pm
He might need to shave a bit better imo
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on July 29, 2016, 12:34:30 am
That is almost perfect. Too bad that DC is dead set on not having Superman wear his trunks over his leggings. :( And the spit-curl would add even more personality to a costume and actor that are already bleeding personality. It would be so great if they did it. T_T
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 29, 2016, 12:37:12 am
Funny thing is he had the curl just dressed casually at the con :p
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on July 30, 2016, 12:50:19 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Q3Nctbb.jpg) Now I'm just wondering if they grabbed a headshot of Hoechlin (hence the stubble) and shopped it onto someone else's body in that promo pic. This looks waaaaay better.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on July 30, 2016, 01:00:53 am
Wow... It IS Superman! :O Too bad he forgot to wear his trunks.
This is making we wish the CW ends up getting a Superman TV series. It would be so great to see Superman save people with the same enthusiasm his cousin does.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 30, 2016, 01:07:12 am
I fear it would be redundant with a lot of the plot points they gave Supergirl.
Kind of like if they decided to make a CW Batman series what with Arrow stealing most of the villains.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 30, 2016, 09:08:03 am
Now I'm just wondering if they grabbed a headshot of Hoechlin (hence the stubble) and shopped it onto someone else's body in that promo pic. This looks waaaaay better.
lol yeah, his neck and shoulders are way thicker/wider here than on the other shot.
edit http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/29/superman-has-a-super-ass-thank-you-tyler-hoechlin/ damn. What's up with that ass.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on July 30, 2016, 11:57:57 am
Now that is a Superman that does his squats. :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Mgbenz on July 30, 2016, 04:27:30 pm
I'm not an ass person but HOT DANG.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on August 02, 2016, 08:57:45 am
That's an ass even Nightwing that would be jealous of. :swoon: (http://i.imgur.com/rfMTem4.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/s8ZNY0E.jpg) Hmm, I think they might actually be going for a subdued version of the spit curl? It looks pretty good, and it's better to have a subdued than just abandoning it entirely, I guess... but c'mon, it's OK to go all out! Go for the full curl! Go for the underwear! Calista Flockhart has officially signed on to season 2 of Supergirl (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/01/supergirl-calista-flockhart-season-2-cw), but, because of the production moving from Los Angeles to Vancouver, she'll be appearing (as rumored/expected) in a reduced role: she's now a recurring guest star, instead of a regular.
Presumably the Snapper Carr character they're introducing will take on a similar sort of role in the new season, but that's pretty frustrating, not only because Flockhart's Cat Grant was one of the best parts of the show, but also because this version of Snapper is indeed being played by some old dude, making it seem very obvious that he'll have absolutely nothing to do with the comics character he's based on, save for the name. :-\
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on August 04, 2016, 07:04:18 pm
I am really digging Tyler Hoechlin as Superman. It will be a blast to see him in the small screen. :)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2016, 01:27:58 am
A metric shitton of news came out today:
Miss Martian will show up in Supergirl, played by Sharon Leal! (http://comicbook.com/2016/08/11/miss-martian-is-headed-to-supergirl/) :D
Mon-El is also headed to Supergirl, and will be played by Chris Wood (http://comicbook.com/2016/08/11/chris-wood-to-play-mon-el-in-supergirl/)!
The main villain of season 3 of The Flash will be the evil speedster Savitar (http://comicbook.com/2016/08/11/flash-season-3-dark-speedster-savitar-/), because they're still finding ways to steal stuff from Wally West to make Barry Allen interesting >:[
Lance Henricksen has been cast as Obsidian onLegends of Tomorrow (http://comicbook.com/2016/08/11/lance-henricksen-cast-as-jsas-obsidian-on-legends-of-tomorrow/) which is, huh. Not sure how to feel about that, not because I don't like Henricksen (I do!) but because Obsidian is traditionally a pretty young character (late teens to 20s). Presumably he's gonna be a member of the Justice Society of America, but they've confirmed that the JSA is an WWII era group, like the comics. So I'm not really sure what the angle is here, if he's a member of the JSA in the 40s then wouldn't they get someone younger? Or is he playing an older version of Obsidian and they're gonna cast someone else to play him as an active superhero? Or is he gonna be the son of a JSA member (like he is in the comics) and they went with someone whose age makes sense for that type of role (the comics have had to come up with various explanations—like slowed aging and other weird time shit—to explain why the JSA members, who are in their 80s/90s, appear to be only middle-aged and whose children are in their 20s and 30s)?
In addition to the already announced 4-part fall crossover between all four DC shows on The CW, Supergirl and The Flash will have their own 2-part MUSICAL CROSSOVER in the spring!!! (http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/08/11/supergirl-and-the-flash-crossing-over-for-musical-episodes-this-/) :D :D :D
and finally, a new animated series was announced: (http://www.newsarama.com/30595-morrison-inspired-dc-s-the-ray-animated-series-announced.html) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpl2FuJUAAEfg5A.jpg) certainly a pretty left-field pick. But very cool that they're putting out the first superhero TV show with a gay lead!
This is being described as based on Grant Morrison's take on the character in The Multiversity: Mastermen, but this show is almost certainly not going to take place in a universe where the Nazis won because baby Kal-El landed in Germany in 1938? The only thing they seem to be taking from that is that this version of the Ray is gay. And much like the Vixen series, they're aiming to cast someone in the title role who will be able to show up in the live action shows as that character. Hopefully it will be for more than one episode!
I can't really tell for sure what other members of the Freedom Fighters are in that picture besides Phantom Lady, but I think I see Condor. And they've gotta include the literal spirit of America, Uncle Sam, right?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on August 12, 2016, 02:45:18 am
In addition to the already announced 4-part fall crossover between all four DC shows on The CW, Supergirl and The Flash will have their own 2-part MUSICAL CROSSOVER in the spring!!! (http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/08/11/supergirl-and-the-flash-crossing-over-for-musical-episodes-this-/) :D :D :D
All my yes!!! :D :D :D This will be so adorable and awesome and cute and all things nice! I can't wait for that to air. :D :D :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 12, 2016, 03:01:26 am
In addition to the already announced 4-part fall crossover between all four DC shows on The CW, Supergirl and The Flash will have their own 2-part MUSICAL CROSSOVER in the spring!!! (http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/08/11/supergirl-and-the-flash-crossing-over-for-musical-episodes-this-/) :D :D :D
I need this to be the plot
I need Neil Patrick Harris to reprise his role
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 12, 2016, 03:29:44 am
@ flash I was a bit upset that S2 had a speedster but I was okay with it because he was pretty cool. But I was saying I'll be pretty ticked if s3 has another speedster as the bigbad. So, does flash only fight speedsters or what???
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 12, 2016, 03:44:18 am
No, the Flash has one of the most outlandish and diverse gallery of rogues in comic book history. But their ringleader is dead™ and will probably be a hero when he comes back (much to my everlasting chagrin) and having multiple guest stars in one episode costs way more on TV than it does in the comics, so...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 12, 2016, 04:45:39 am
they STILL have yet to introduced Mirror master, The Top or Abra Cadabra.
Dr. Alchemy is clearly going to show up though, based on the trailers.
I was hoping the big bad of the season would be the rogues lead by a rebooted, still evil Captain cold, but oh well, a man can dream =/.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2016, 05:01:13 am
They just cast Mirror Master (http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/exclusive-the-flash-casts-its-mirror-master) (but not the first Mirror Master, not the extremely Scottish Mirror Master II everyone likes) and are apparently casting for the Top (http://comicbook.com/2016/08/10/the-flash-season-3-reportedly-casting-mirror-master-top-and-more/).
Still no word on Abra Kadabra, though, which is odd. It's not even like he's that outlandish at this point, either!
As for Captain Cold, he's returning in some fashion: both John Barrowman (Malcolm Merlyn) and Wentworth Miller (Captain Cold) got new contracts that allows for multiple appearances across all of the CW DC shows, without any complicated guest star negotiations.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 12, 2016, 07:30:59 am
That's all extremely good news.
Guess I can wait longer for Abra Kadabra, There's no doubt in my mind that they will eventually introduce him.
However, Jmorph, maybe you know since you're more versed in old comics than I am. (I have only read about 3 Pre-Crisis DC comics that I can think of, all batman,) What the hell is Abra's original Goal, anyway? I know he's a stage magician from the future where stage magic is "obsolete", but why the hell does he start fighting the flash?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 12, 2016, 03:38:53 pm
When you get down to it he wants to be famous
So he starts committing crimes (as you do)
Things escalate, wives get erased from history and brought back by duplicates with dark red 90s costumes, he becomes a ghost at some point because of his future tech, and apparently he just up and erases Wally from history completely while also turning himself into a lame regular kids party magician if the end of the new Titans issue is for real
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 12, 2016, 09:06:10 pm
Is that really it? That's super dumb. Even for silver age stuff.
Quote
Things escalate, wives get erased from history and brought back by duplicates with dark red 90s costumes, he becomes a ghost at some point because of his future tech, and apparently he just up and erases Wally from history completely while also turning himself into a lame regular kids party magician if the end of the new Titans issue is for real
Yeah, I knew about the stuff from the 90's. (well, not the New Titans stuff, actually)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2016, 04:32:21 am
Greg Berlanti (the guy who created and is basically in charge of all the CW-DC TV shows) is teaming with Salim and Mara Brock Akil to produce a Black Lightning show! (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/black-superhero-drama-greg-berlanti-924999) It's currently being shopped around to different networks.
official logline said:
Jefferson Pierce made his choice: He hung up the suit and his secret identity years ago, but with a daughter hell-bent on justice and a star student being recruited by a local gang, he’ll be pulled back into the fight as the wanted vigilante and DC legend — Black Lightning.
It's an intriguing setup: an older superhero with a childwho wants to continue that heroic legacy. It's quintessentially DC!
In the comics, Black Lightning has two daughters, who both become superheroes, so I'm not sure whether this description means in the show he'll only have one daughter, or if it's just one daughter who wants to pursue crimefighting. Hopefully they'll have both!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on September 02, 2016, 11:06:38 pm
“It’s Superman as I think he was intended to be,” Hoechlin says of his version of the Supes [...] You don’t have to be dark and brooding and always in this state of masculine toughness.
Aaaaand burn.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 03, 2016, 02:05:41 am
Damn... he pulled no punches there. Vicious.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 27, 2016, 05:23:47 am
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: lui on September 27, 2016, 05:31:33 am
oh man, he's so happy it makes me almost forget about all the brooding that happened in bvs, mos and in injustice!
almost. i said almost.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 27, 2016, 09:32:40 am
Well shit, Superman, doing Superman stuff.. wow
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 27, 2016, 11:45:54 am
By Odin's beard! That is the Superman we need, the one we deserve! He is perfect! :D Can we get this Superman in the cinematic universe, pretty pretty please with sugar on top?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2016, 12:02:00 pm
I have to wonder if the guys who make the decisions on both universes will ever realize how differently the characters and styles are appreciated. Arrow is dropping, Flash is on the rise, Supergirl with her new Superman are clearly going to get good reception... And yet Warner and DC will most likely still not care about it because it's just TV and they'll do the movies differently.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on September 28, 2016, 11:46:04 pm
Well shit, Superman, doing Superman stuff.. wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtdK8un_VN0
He's got Clark Kent nailed down too! :D
Yes! :D He is so dreamy and perfect as both Superman and Clark Kent! That wink just killed me. I can't wait to see more of him. I have been waiting for this Clark Kent/Superman for years!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 30, 2016, 09:53:34 am
I liked it. Diggle's reaction is priceless.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on September 30, 2016, 01:46:20 pm
That was pretty awesome. :D
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 05, 2016, 03:14:31 am
Spoiler: Re: The ending to tonight's Flash(click to see content)
OH SHIT BARRY WHAT DID YOU JUST DOOOOOOOOO
And the answer is...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Nothing of any real consequence. I can't believe an event so important that it rebooted an entire universe in the comics was walked back in one episode of the show. They didn't even take some time to play around with it. This plus apparently more Felicity in the next episode has put me in a foul mood to start of this season.
Thawne was pretty great, tho
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Neocide on October 05, 2016, 09:54:13 am
I loved the ep!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I didn't mind it being wrapped up the way it did, there are still repercussions for the event (Although so far it's only been the strain on iris and Joe, and making the rival)I'm sure there will be more throughout the show.
I didn't want to see it drag on when Flashpoint was imo a mediocre what if story to begin with, and they weren't going very far out on it, so why drag it out. I loved Doucey Cisco too
This season feels big
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 05, 2016, 09:02:31 pm
Huh.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I never thought the Flashpoint world would last too long, but the trailers kept hyping it up and people were expecting it to last like a third of the season. The thing is, for both S1 and S2, all the trailers that seemed to be about the whole season ended up being completely in the first episode only. Coupled with the intertwining with 3 more shows, there was no way Flash would have remained in a Flashpoint world for more than 2 episodes.
... "Speed has always been my problem" is really not something you should say to a girl when asking her out, dude.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: SuliOfTheNerdVaid Suli on October 05, 2016, 09:35:35 pm
My question is tho
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
how is the time still messed up? The Reverse Flash killed his mom, was he suppose to kill her in a specific way or was he suppose to go way back, ya know when Berry was not there to save his mom (i kno dumb question :embarrassed:)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: BurningSoul on October 05, 2016, 10:14:44 pm
how is the time still messed up? The Reverse Flash killed his mom, was he suppose to kill her in a specific way or was he suppose to go way back, ya know when Berry was not there to save his mom (i kno dumb question :embarrassed:)
His mom's death is a fixed point in time.Also there is no guarantee that the things happened after than her dead has to be same,I'm guessing that Reverse did something tho.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 05, 2016, 10:25:45 pm
My man, there's a reason people are using spoiler tags, even if you think what you're posting isn't that big.
Anyway,
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Time is still messed up because things have now proceeded in a different fashion. Barry should have left Thawne in his cage and just had a heart to heart with himself.
Instead, like a dummy, he gave Thawne free range to kill his mom and do whatever else before dragging Barry back into the present.
Now this should have FAR-reaching consequences! Thawne can travel freely through time, for instance. Now he does not need to kill Harrison Wells and take his place to accelerate the particle accelerator explosion because, as you may recall, he only did that so he could get back to his time. Follow that one thread and there should be a multitude of events affected by this one seemingly innocuous thing.
Of course, none of those events will be referenced at all, but I'm just saying
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: SuliOfTheNerdVaid Suli on October 05, 2016, 11:02:44 pm
I think i understand thanks man lol
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on October 12, 2016, 01:30:37 am
Man, that first ep Supergirl.. .Superman..was so Superman... how can the TV get it so right and the movies fuck it up
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bea on October 12, 2016, 02:01:19 am
Man, that first ep Supergirl.. .Superman..was so Superman... how can the TV get it so right and the movies fuck it up
And I am only getting to see that on the 26th here. :'(
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on October 12, 2016, 02:20:23 am
Yeah, Hoechlin's Superman is fantastic. He's so good it just feels effortless; it instantly made me want a Superman show to spinoff from Supergirl.
(http://i.imgur.com/jIWvVr5.gif) he really is stupendous :wub:
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: HadeS on October 12, 2016, 02:21:15 am
At first when I saw the promo pics and that, I wasn't very fond of him but I must say I found him quite nice and I liked him after watching the first episode. I also like that you can feel Kara and Clark's cousin's relationship. He has an odd face, IMO but his acting was good enough to convince me. I'm looking forward to seeing him more often in the show :)
The only thing that keeps (kinda) bothering is his height compared to JImmy's but Jimmy isn't even a ginger, so whatever.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: SuliOfTheNerdVaid Suli on October 12, 2016, 03:01:42 am
YO THE PROMO FOR THE NEXT EPISODE THO!!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 12, 2016, 03:08:04 am
I may not be satisfied with how Flashpoint turned out, but I will never not be impressed with the show's ability to give pointless drama a swift kick in the nards
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: R565 on October 12, 2016, 04:32:04 am
Man, tonight's episode of the Flash had some interesting things to it.
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Jay Garrick pulling Barry out to talk speedster to speedster. Realizing that he must accept this timeline he made because he broke the time-space continuum just to have a normal life and he didn't have the idea of how big the shockwave would be. I also love how they bring in Alchemy to show a bigger picture for what's next to come. Cisco using part of the suit was awesome as well, and I hope that he becomes Vibe in the future. Chilling that we also see a peak into Caitlin and her Killer Frost side.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2016, 10:37:31 pm
Heyyyy Arrow just reintroduced their version of Deadshot thanks to Flashpoint wtf ?? Any chance they want to retrieve that train they ditched because of the movie, and redo their own Suicide Squad, as they intended back when Arrow was starting to get good and just before getting blindsided by the movie and not knowing what to do instead ? Well, that giant Joker wink was bad, but we'll see. And actually, Ragman might be the most interesting of the bunch...
Legends also seems to be slightly okay and have a tiny chance of not being as boring as S1, and Supergirl has weird stuff (in the new characters and relationships) but also has a chance, apparently trying to act all classic again. There might be some hope for DC yet.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 20, 2016, 11:04:56 pm
Heyyyy Arrow just reintroduced their version of Deadshot thanks to Flashpoint wtf ??
Did they really? Considering that
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he was a figment of John's imagination
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2016, 11:16:50 pm
Yeah, but I figure they'll come back over it. They've strongly hinted that Deathstroke could come back in spite of the movie version because the multiverse is already a thing in the TV-verse, and Deadshot was highly popular during his big part, plus the character already popped up on Flash (as an Earth-2 detective) so the actor is clearly still holding tight and hoping. It feels like they're really trying to keep him in and this sequence was "testing the waters", setting up some excuse, and at this rate, if they can get the execs to sign up on it, they'll have him back in in a blink, I would think. They seem to know how hard the Squad movie fucked them up and how much their own Squad should have helped them follow up on the Deathstroke season.
(btw the writing is still pretty bad with all the force-fed parallel speeches about trusts, but that was already the case in S2, and as long as the rest can pick up the interest...)
I take that back, the JSA are absolute complete fucking assholes. They're bad guys that just happen to be fighting Nazis. I don't want to see any more of these guys. It's the same problem as Ghost Rider's first appearance in Marvel's SHIELD, they have to show off the powers of the new guy and tell us how much of a threat he is, so hey, let's just make him fight the good guys over a misunderstanding and then let's keep up the animosity.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Neocide on October 27, 2016, 12:26:42 am
I Actually liked the jsa,yea they were assholes to the legends but that ep was awesome asf imo.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on October 27, 2016, 01:41:12 am
In the Supergirl universe, not only is Lynda Carter the President, she's
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also an alien?!?! Was she replaced at some point by a shapeshifter? Was every interaction Supergirl had with the President in this episode with that alien Prez? Or was she replaced midway through the episode? Or maybe the President has always been secretly an alien?
I dunno that really threw me for a loop, especially after they had a little nod towards the President maybe owning an invisible jet. You can't hint at the President maybe being a retired Wonder Woman (but only hinting because obviously Warner Bros/DC would never allow that) and then immediately afterwards reveal that she's actually an alien! It gave me whiplash!!!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on October 27, 2016, 08:57:30 am
There were a few WW references, like supergirl spinning fast to put out her fire just like the old WW show. Definitely just easter eggs, the invisible jet was just a wink and not a hint.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 27, 2016, 11:54:43 pm
yeah, the only way for it to be a hint was if we saw the invisible jet.
:P
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on November 23, 2016, 12:36:21 am
lol, this weeks Supergirl introduced the real Hank Henshaw.. who looks like John Jones... which makes sense, thats the identity martian manhunter assumed. Funny part is Hank calls himself Cyborg-Superman... lol
Also references to Batman and Thanagar..
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on November 23, 2016, 03:58:14 pm
He's also as crazy as his comic book counterpart.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 09, 2017, 04:00:07 pm
In addition to the already announced 4-part fall crossover between all four DC shows on The CW, Supergirl and The Flash will have their own 2-part MUSICAL CROSSOVER in the spring!!! (http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/08/11/supergirl-and-the-flash-crossing-over-for-musical-episodes-this-/) :D :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MG4ejYe94
I need this to be the plot
It's the plot (http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/01/08/the-music-meister-is-the-flash-and-supergirl-musical-crossover-villain)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on January 25, 2017, 12:58:51 am
The Music Meister was a character invented for Batman: The Brave And The Bold, so the character is indelibly linked to Neil Patrick Harris, who played the character in his first (and so far only) appearance. So obviously, there's some pretty big roles to fill when trying to cast someone to play the character in the big Supergirl/Flash musical crossover.
I think they succeeded in that regard: Darren Criss (a Glee alum, just like Melissa Benoist and Grant Gustin) will play Music Meister!!! (http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/23/darren-criss-music-meister-flash-supergirl-musical-crossover/)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2017, 02:23:40 am
http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/03/black-lightning-cw-berlanti-pilot/ Black Lightning pilot picked up for CW, dad who gave up the costume has to pick it up again. Expect crossings with everything else, whether it's another Earth but crossing over like Supergirl or directly in the same world - the description makes it fit right in with what Arrow tried to hint at some time ago (you know, before they did a big swerve left then right).
Oh, while I'm at it Legends S2 is still going well, much better than S1, especially that last episode on the Legion of Doom. Watching Merlyn still getting treated like a weak ass shit (and even joking about it) was irritating as usual, and Damian's caricature of a big mean boss is annoying, but the interaction was pretty damn good, and holy shit the Black Flash scene with Thawne was fucking amazing. And then the very last scene was shit. The George Lucas episode before was good, but the "I don't know your films, but I guess you made such a massive impact in the life of these FUCKING LAME ASS SKINNY NERDS with four doctorates so think about it" getting hammered over and again was meant to be inspiring and yet it just sounded like a massive slap and spit in the face for probably anyone who watches this show, it was so incredibly patronizing and naively backhanded. Apparently Arrow is still trying to stabilize itself from all its swerves left and right, it's kind of holding its head just above the water and trying to get a definitive Black Canary to play it all straight like the comics, see if that finally works out. Flash is still great. I don't follow Supergirl but what I've heard of it is still terrible. Except maybe lesbians I guess, but maybe not even that.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 04, 2017, 02:41:20 am
Arrow started really strong, but the episodes since the return from the break have felt like it's backsliding again
Also, the revelation that the OC they made up to be the new Black Canary
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is actually Dinah Drake, the first and current Black Canary in the comics
is some shit right of the Dark Knight Rises
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2017, 02:58:12 am
For Arrow, the setup is good but it's still another excuse for Oliver to hate himself just because, no matter how ridiculous the bad guy is. The presentation is better, the team works better and they have good interaction thanks to diverse personalities, but then we go back to Black Canary and for some reason Oliver is hell bent on finding a replacement because I don't know the comics say Green Arrow has Black Canary so let's come up with random shit and just say that Oliver really wants it. I don't even want to know how they'll shoehorn a romantic relationship with a brand new girl literally picked off the street (compared to all that heavy handed build-up Laurel and Felicity got) because that's the way it's supposed to be. And the Diggle story is just another case of Terrible Recycled Random Plot.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2017, 01:21:22 am
I don't follow Supergirl but what I've heard of it is still terrible. Except maybe lesbians I guess, but maybe not even that.
Supergirl is going really well, the move to The CW and resulting shakeup has really helped fine-tune things. As bad as losing Cat Grant was, it's forced the show to to narrow its focus to the DEO side of things (still quite a bit of civilian/CatCo stuff, but not quite the half and half balance the first season had), which has led to a more focused and better paced storytelling. I still find it to be the strongest of the CW shows, and the only one I watch closely and regularly.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 02:10:47 am
I laughed the whole thing off back when they announced Jimmy becoming Guardian. I've seen bits like the one on another planet which seemed nice, and the relationships, dialogs etc. that I've seen seem to be a lot better than S1, but it still has ridiculous ideas.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 05, 2017, 02:58:54 am
I checked out after Superman left. Maybe I'll binge it when it's done like I did the first, but the choice has been between it and Gotham and I choose Gotham.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 03:13:50 am
Oh yeah, the Superman episodes... that reminds me, did they end up committing to making Lena Luthor a sincere good guy or evil just like the rest of them ? Her mom is the head of the alienist organization, right ? Gotham's "Joker" ended up being absolutely amazing (despite the sheer stupidity of his presence, or in case it's not actually the Joker, the implication on the actual Joker being a pale imitation of him) and the Penguin/Riddler relationship drives the entire interest, those three actors are so good, but it's still a complete wreck on the storytelling, the world construction. Like, even the whole "Joker's face" nod to the comics, it was so fucking stupid how they brought it up, even though it ended up working well. Bruce is getting interesting on his own, and he has a great dynamic with Alfred (also great actors there) but they're just so disconnected from everything else. It's kind of like Supergirl, there are some fucked up ideas that serve as the foundation, and then they try to wing it up as they go. Gotham has those great actors that keep the interest up, Supergirl seems kind of bland (Supergirl's hero speech on the red sun planet had nice inspiring intentions but the execution sounded so flat and boring, and the sister discovering herself only sounds like a schoolgirl having her first crush) and relies on a few shocks here and there to keep you in (Superman, White and Green Martians, lesbians, Winn's "red shirt" existential crisis).
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 05, 2017, 03:31:33 am
It's only when Jerome shows up that I remember how much I like the character so I'm glad they're keeping him alive in Arkham for the time being. I don't even care if he's the Joker or not at this point; I've completely come to terms with this show as an Elseworlds story that will eventually have a version of Batman in it.
I am hoping the Owl storyline converges the plot because everything has been completely disconnected. Gordon hasn't even really had a plot so much as he just shows up in other people's plots at this point.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 03:37:25 am
Yeah, and what the fuck is up with Gordon being so much of a big ball of angry for no reason. He's a terrible character, I suppose he's intended to be the link between all those storylines, but you just don't see it. He's just the walking deus ex that both causes and resolves the plot lines (everything about the virus thingy), when all he needs to be is the witness and the detective that sees the threads, not this "Rambo gone mental" bullshit.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 05, 2017, 03:47:40 am
I think Falcone pleading with Gordon to bring his son in alive and Gordon blowing him away not five minutes later has to be one of the stupidest, funniest television moments of last year.
And then the only real lasting effect of it is that Thompkins is mad at him, and he just sort of grumbles "okay" in his growly voice.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on March 15, 2017, 06:57:57 am
yes
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on March 30, 2017, 07:29:17 pm
first shot of Black Lightning from the upcoming show of the same name: (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2017/03/BLACK-LIGHTNING-First-Look-Image.jpg) I think it looks pretty good?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 30, 2017, 08:47:46 pm
Hmmm, a little too teched up for my tastes
Since they're going with the best version of the character (Dad Lightning) I would have liked something more understated like the lightning jacket and save the technicool for Thunder and Lightning
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on April 27, 2017, 12:38:53 am
Flash 3x19 They started the season revealing the Rival's identity and teasing Alchemy because they wanted to be sure we'd know that hey, this isn't going to be another season with an evil speedster who's hiding his identity among Flash's friends and Flash is going to spend the season trying to find out the big bad's true identity Guess how things have been going against Savitar And of course, Flash's massive guilt trips and failed hero complex have been getting worse and worse. Jesus Christ, can't you just like the characters you write ?
Took a look out of curiosity and Supergirl still makes zero sense and Gotham is still a massive trainwreck that only shines through Penguin's acting, although Nygma's quirks seem to be more under control - just playing his character as a straight idiot.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 27, 2017, 01:01:50 am
I liked last night's episode well enough, it felt hopeful with the resolution that even without Iris Barry would still go on
I'm also ready for them to go ahead and put him in the bright red costume now that they've made it
But I am good and goddamn over the mysterious speedster villain string-along
I don't care if it's future Barry, past Barry or Straw Barry
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Revanto on April 27, 2017, 04:16:24 am
Will be interesting to see when 'Titans' comes out as a series. I wanna see how they do Hawk and Dove, funnily enough.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/77712
Revanto ;P
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 03, 2017, 12:48:26 pm
Urgh... what a lame Savitar reveal
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: HexagoN on May 16, 2017, 10:05:45 pm
The revelation was kind strange, when I watched I just thought: No you did not said that, you used another intonation.
Title: Black Lightning on the CW first trailer
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 18, 2017, 09:50:00 pm
First Trailer for Black Lightning
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 18, 2017, 09:55:53 pm
Very much not into Black Lightning using a dude as a human shield, but otherwise looks pretty fun!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: HexagoN on May 18, 2017, 11:00:06 pm
Looks pretty cool, so since it's a CW show, we can expect crossovers with The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl and Legends of tomorrow right?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 18, 2017, 11:22:00 pm
The DC TV folks have denied the idea of any crossovers right now, and are currently saying the same things about Black Lightning as they were about Supergirl about said crossovers: "there won't be any crossovers" and "it's in a separate universe", etc.
Buuuuuuuuut we all know how that worked out for Supergirl. The only real complicating factor is that Black Lightning is shooting in Atlanta, while all the other DC shows on The CW shoot in Vancouver, which makes crossovers much much easier to pull off; of course, season one of Supergirl shot in LA, but still managed to have the Flash guest star on an episode. The different filming locations would probably make it difficult for Black Lightning to take place in those big 4-part crossovers between all the currently airing DC shows, but it wouldn't stop a few characters from Black Lightning from appearing in said 4-part crossovers. They just wouldn't be able to do the kinds of crossovers where you have nearly of of the casts from all the various shows interacting with eachother, it's just too much of a logistical headache.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 31, 2017, 07:27:40 am
The latest season finales were a bit depressing & shocking.
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In Arrow, Prometheus killed himself and blew up most of Lian Yu. In the Flash, Savitar was finally dealt with by a paradox wave, but Barry Allen sacrificed himself when a Speed Force storm devastates Central City (due in part to Vibe freeing The Golden Age Flash from the Speed Force prison). In DC's Legends of Tomorrow, The Legends of Tomorrow from a future in which The Legion of Doom has won interacted with their past selves, causing time to fold on itself. In Supergirl, Rhea was defeated. However, it was done so that Earth was harmful to Daxamites. Supergirl and Mon-El had to part ways.
Some of these last minute scenes in the finales set up the next threat for the future properly. Others leave you hanging until the next season. My only hope is that while the villains may have won the war (and paid for their sins), the heroes learn from these senseless mistakes that they made from their respective seasons.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 06, 2017, 04:11:43 am
Maan, Gotham went for it tonight! They basically made a finale just in case they didn't get picked up:
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Riddler's on ice, Barbara is dead, Butch is dead but it turns out hes Solomon Grundy, Selina's begun her road to Cat themed thievery and whip-based weaponry, Ra's al Ghul is immortal and his methods are supernatural, and, oh yeah, there's a dark avenger in Gotham now.
Can't wait for next season!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 03, 2017, 10:28:17 pm
https://geektyrant.com/news/first-look-at-brenton-thwaites-as-robin-in-dcs-titans-series not too shabby
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on December 04, 2017, 03:03:33 am
I wonder how the rest of the cast will look like.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on January 31, 2018, 01:23:23 am
"Metropolis" series coming late 2019 on the upcoming DC streaming service, a "prequel to Superman", about Lois and Lex Luthor... by the Gotham people. Interest killed.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on February 01, 2018, 04:21:02 pm
This sounds like a sequel to Smallville.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2018, 04:39:48 pm
In spirit maybe, but not officially. Didn't Lex die in Smallville at some point ? Or did he come back ? And then there's the fact that the Gotham people want to make Metropolis gritty, justifying that by pushing Clark/Superman out of the show (maybe with a few appearances here and there popping up from Texas) and focusing the story on Lex and Lois.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 01, 2018, 05:42:02 pm
Lex made an appearance in the final episode of Snellville, resurrected with a noticeable bald cap
He made a good speech though, it was the one bright spot in that finale
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on April 14, 2018, 11:25:50 am
I completely gave up on Arrow a while back but I kept an eye on Legends from time to time. And man, that finale completely sold me. Now that's how you really claim a definite identity for your show (after three seasons, about time). Move over Firestorm tragic drama, proto-Vixen romantic drama, we have the huge demon lord body-slammed into a heart-shaped explosion by a giant fluffy plush. Don't just have everyone tell the Legends how terrible and reckless they are for no reason, actually make something awesome dumb ! Maybe Constantine is what finally makes this whole TV universe stop taking itself too seriously. (shagging Sarah in the toilets of a mental asylum was a nice start)
Title: Titans TV trailer
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 19, 2018, 04:11:54 pm
Uhh...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: R565 on July 19, 2018, 04:24:08 pm
WTF is this!
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: rgveda99 on July 19, 2018, 05:22:06 pm
And I thought hooker Starfire was the worst of it. :behead:
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: morbidjoe on July 19, 2018, 07:41:51 pm
What...no why :S
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2018, 08:39:37 pm
>fuck Batman >blood everywhere So mature. Raven goes from comic book goth to plain dumb "leaky ink" goth.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on July 20, 2018, 03:39:26 pm
We all see these things. They aren't permanent. Watch! The next season will probably have more comic book accurate costumes.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Foobs on July 20, 2018, 03:57:26 pm
This turned out to be accurate. Apparently Starfire is dressed like a whore because she just came out of a disco party.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 20, 2018, 06:12:50 pm
I've said this on Twitter, but it's hasn't been said here...
The original Teen Titans cartoon is the middle ground on the scale here. It's what everyone knows and remembers... Teen Titans Go! is when you take the scale towards a more goofier aspect. You still have action based moments, but 75% of the show is humor based. It should also be noted that Go! wasn't intended for the original fan base of the older cartoon... it was aimed at the younger generation.
Titans is when you take the scale in the completely opposite direction. It's a world of grim dark crap with Robin, of all people, using the 'F' bomb and Starfire actually fire based powers and melting people... look, I get the feeling that this series would cause far more alienation to the old fan base then Go! ever could.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 21, 2018, 04:02:45 pm
https://twitter.com/RyanPlatts/status/1042484484501921792 Apparently Bats will be in Titans
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 21, 2018, 04:14:12 pm
That's the benefit of being on a streaming service. You don't have to worry about issues like budget and movie and TV obligations.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on December 10, 2018, 10:57:51 pm
So you know how (one of) Arrow's problem is that it really wants to be Batman This first episode of the Elseworlds crossover having Superman in the team (Tyler still knocking it out of the park BTW) made me realize that having Arrow and Flash start with their origin stories and try to be TV Batman and Superman before they got the rights still gave them a chance to do them right (by that I mean do Batman and Superman right). They're not fucking up Superman because they don't have to write over 20 episodes a year around him and risk having some major failures. Long story short, seeing this Superman next to Flash made me think, when Batwoman works well enough to finally have Batman show up, but not as a leading role, maybe they'll finally do him right, just like how Superman shows up in Supergirl a few times here and there and nails it, because they don't have to actually put his character on the line and question his personality ever five minutes. The real Superman and Batman will already be the experienced, legendary figures that everyone looks up to in their respective universe, not scrawny idiot kids "discovering who they are" (looking at you too Gotham) (but Flash is still fine). And Green Arrow is just the sacrificial lamb and it'll never recover, because who even knows what comic book Green Arrow is like anyway.
(oh and that trailer for the final season of Gotham was fucking awful, glad it's finally dying)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 11, 2018, 10:43:42 pm
Green arrow has a comic book ?
(semi serious because I don't know if he has ongoing series or is just used as a cameo in the jla stuff)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on December 12, 2018, 01:52:01 am
And Green Arrow is just the sacrificial lamb and it'll never recover, because who even knows what comic book Green Arrow is like anyway.
He debuted as a very blatant ripoff of Batman, and stayed that way for several decades. Like, it was just straight up 1:1; most of the time, he was Batman: But With Arrows. He had an Arrowcar, an Arrowcave, a kid sidekick (then again, everyone had a kid sidekick) even a jester themed villain, etc. It was pretty ridiculous.
It wasn't until the late 60s that he started to become distinct; the character is ostensibly based on and inspired by Robin Hood, but besides aesthetics and choice of weapon, there wasn't really much else in common between the two. That changed when Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams revamped the character as a much more direct take on the idea of a "modern day Robin Hood". They obviously couldn't get too radical (DC would've never approved of G.A. stealing from the rich, e.g.) but they were able to reshape the character as an outspoken liberal, who'd go up against corrupt corporations and fight for the marginalized—but was often pompous and pigheaded, prone to angrily calling his fellow Justice League members fascists over any disagreements.
This blowhard aging hippie persona proved to be the key ingredient in making Green Arrow a really interesting and unique character, but sometimes that aspect gets dropped or otherwise deemphasized, especially in live action versions. Both the version on Smallville and the current Arrowverse have gone back to the character's roots in the worst way, choosing to focus mainly on using G.A. as a Batman substitute—and, for a time, the comics followed suit. Thankfully they've dramatically changed course since the likewide Rebirth relaunch, but that's just the comics.
(semi serious because I don't know if he has ongoing series or is just used as a cameo in the jla stuff)
For the longest time, he didn't! He debuted in the 40s, but didn't get a book to himself until the 80s (unless you count the ongoing Green Lantern/Green Arrow series from the early 70s, which co-starred both characters). But ever since then, his ongoing series has been pretty steady, with a few gaps here and there.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on December 12, 2018, 11:36:00 pm
Damn, there was so much comedy and self burns in this crossover. Even some side burn Man of Steel because of course. And "X-Ray vision. You really do have a lot of tattoos !" can these writers WANT there to be porn any harder ? Is this how the Supergirl series is these days ? Or is that how the Batwoman series will be ? I mean, it might be fun if that's how they decided to balance out the edgy... Oh yeah and Legends simply went full force on the crazy and the fucking up massively, that was awesome.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Lichtbringer on May 19, 2019, 11:46:54 pm
Sooo Batwoman Trailer is out.
And people seem to hate it.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 20, 2019, 04:04:09 am
Do they hate it because it's DC TV and they're gonna screw it up or is it because it's a wamen ? It doesn't look any more cringy than Arrow to me.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: lui on May 20, 2019, 04:28:57 am
people are more upset that the show is pushing the whole "its only better if its a woman doing it" theme a whole bunch in the trailer or some shit idk
ill probably skip out on this, ive honestly had dc show fatigue ever since the gotham ending sort of sucked and arrow and flash are just losing steam
only actual good dc show i love keeping up with is doom patrol
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on May 20, 2019, 05:34:47 am
:mcry: I don't want the Arrowverse to end :mcry:
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on May 20, 2019, 05:37:48 am
Question... what happened to Batman?? Did someone kill him or something??
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: lui on May 20, 2019, 05:47:49 am
No, he's just not there lol
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 20, 2019, 07:50:14 am
Question... what happened to Batman?? Did someone kill him or something??
He has been afflicted with the terrible disease known as "DC's weird rights issues vis-à-vis their big name characters appearing on their TV shows".
At best they might get him to appear every few years, for an episode, like with Superman on the Supergirl show. DC (or maybe Warner Bros? who knows) is super cagey about having characters that are in movies appear in other live action properties, and have been for a while. Like, remember that time Arrow suddenly killed off Amanda Waller, half a year before the Suicide Squad movie came out?
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on May 20, 2019, 05:41:47 pm
Didn't he actually show up in Titans ? I can't even guess if they'll try to keep those two coherent. Doing what Supergirl did with Superman would be fine. The Squad thing was when they were going ballistic but they calmed down since that backlash, I would say.
And yeah, apparently in-universe he just left and that's it. Is it supposed to be an Easter egg for the dark Knight trilogy where Bruce just walked off ? There were talks about doing that when they launched the idea of a Batwoman show.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmorphman on May 21, 2019, 03:01:51 am
Didn't he actually show up in Titans ? I can't even guess if they'll try to keep those two coherent. Doing what Supergirl did with Superman would be fine.
Batman in Titans is working exactly like Superman did in Supergirl: they had Batman show up but only seen in brief glances, and just used a stand-in wearing a basic costume for the very brief appearances he made. And also, much like Superman in Supergirl, they only cast someone to play Batman starting with the second season (they'll also probably design a more elaborate and better costume for said actor to wear)
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on May 21, 2019, 09:43:39 am
He has been afflicted with the terrible disease known as "DC's weird rights issues vis-à-vis their big name characters appearing on their TV shows".
At best they might get him to appear every few years, for an episode, like with Superman on the Supergirl show. DC (or maybe Warner Bros? who knows) is super cagey about having characters that are in movies appear in other live action properties, and have been for a while. Like, remember that time Arrow suddenly killed off Amanda Waller, half a year before the Suicide Squad movie came out?
Kinda, didn't know Amanda was killed off because of a film. I just want Batman to pull up. Also want him to meet the Green Arrow and probably save him from the crisis. Speaking of crisis...
Who seen this...
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: rgveda99 on October 06, 2019, 08:09:11 pm
Just saw the 'Birds of Prey trailer And The Fabulous Emancipation Of One Harley Quinn' I'm not sure where they're going with this since it's really a Harley Quinn movie. I guess she's now the equivalent of MCU Deadpool.
Heard really good reviews of Birds of Prey comics specifically Gail Simone's run back in the 90's and I'm sure the Birds of Prey fans are going ballistic over this.
Edit: LOL. Just noticed I posted this in the wrong DC thread. Could a mod move it to the DCEU thread.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on June 02, 2020, 10:28:56 pm
It's been bothering me, but I think I just remembered where I saw the actress for Stargirl's Oblivious Mom. Is that Tasty Coma Wife ? After JD's brother as a terrifying supervillain, it's fun to see more Scrubs actors show up again. Oh, yeah, Stargirl. So they put a lot of money in those 5 minutes of JSA at the start, and then they put an entire zero dollar in the writing. Oh well, it's teenage girl cringe, but still better than early arrow.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 02, 2020, 11:52:56 pm
I've been enjoying how goofily earnest it is
There's like zero subtext, like how Stargirl's mom (Amy Smart, by the way, I remember her from the Crank movies) does not question in the slightest how both her daughter and her husband managed to slip on the same stair in the basement and hurt themselves to where they have bruises and cuts
No idea why they cast Joel McHale though beyond his ability to deliver that complete shutdown of Luke Wilson's character hilariously
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 03, 2020, 01:36:23 pm
They don't want to be pigeonholed into who they choose as a replacement
I don't work for the CW but as someone who has been watching it and the two networks it used to be for the majority of my life I have a pretty good idea what they're thinking
They want a lesbian woman of color as their main character to tick the boxes the next time advertising season rolls around and they want it to be an original (or at the very least obscure) character so they don't have to deal with any complaints
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 05, 2020, 02:06:40 am
That's not going to work. Batwoman can't be handed down to just anybody off the streets.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 05, 2020, 04:19:00 am
And why, pray tell, is that
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Byakko on June 09, 2020, 08:36:43 pm
Uh, Elongated Man is out of the show because of some "awful joke" tweets from a few years ago by the actor. It feels like the same situation as James Gunn (in that they were giant edgelord jokes and he regrets them now - shoulda bleached your timeline faster, man) but it doesn't seem like they're gonna walk that decision back. Shame, I really liked what they did with the character and the actor's performance. We'll see how fast they'll dump the Sue Dibney storyline next season. I hope the guy can rebuild his reputation and do stuff again.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 10, 2020, 02:32:15 am
It will be hard to do with all of the alt-lefts and alt-rights stirring up trouble on the internet.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 23, 2021, 02:49:43 am
A new Trailer for the Superman and Lois Series is out.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: rgveda99 on January 23, 2021, 06:35:20 am
That looks amazing.
Meanwhile the first episode of season 2 of Batwoman flops.
Title: Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread
Post by: Skeletor-E.X. on February 09, 2021, 03:46:38 am
Can't believe my wife and I committed to reviewing this show, but no turning back now.