alucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 07:29:28 pmalucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 08:32:26 amJASONTODD said, May 05, 2009, 04:48:59 pmThe Toxic Avenger said, May 05, 2009, 04:19:23 pmThat was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.pngthe character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame. How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.Just try to imagine you spend nights and nights of your life for several months, trying to make a unique character. (because you can only work at night in mugen). Then you think with the character its ready to share with the public and you released.And many envious people defame you making false evidence and saying that the job is theirs. Without having a firm foundation of what they say. Suddenly appear more envious people like jason todd who invent more lies and all that work you did is going to the crap. Quit judging people, They feel exactly the same way you do. They feel that you defamed them....they work hard on their character just the same as you. They are ready to share theirs with the world too and a few days before they can release their character someone else releases a batman almost identical and some ways identical to their work. How would that make you feel? Now they were afraid to release their batman because they are afraid everyone will accuse them of stealing yours. They are in the same boat you are and I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening.
SethZankuten said, May 07, 2009, 07:52:38 pm I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening. how did you try and how did you know this situation was gonna happen?
SethZankuten said, May 07, 2009, 07:52:38 pmalucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 07:29:28 pmalucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 08:32:26 amJASONTODD said, May 05, 2009, 04:48:59 pmThe Toxic Avenger said, May 05, 2009, 04:19:23 pmThat was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.pngthe character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame. How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.Just try to imagine you spend nights and nights of your life for several months, trying to make a unique character. (because you can only work at night in mugen). Then you think with the character its ready to share with the public and you released.And many envious people defame you making false evidence and saying that the job is theirs. Without having a firm foundation of what they say. Suddenly appear more envious people like jason todd who invent more lies and all that work you did is going to the crap. Quit judging people, They feel exactly the same way you do. They feel that you defamed them....they work hard on their character just the same as you. They are ready to share theirs with the world too and a few days before they can release their character someone else releases a batman almost identical and some ways identical to their work. How would that make you feel? Now they were afraid to release their batman because they are afraid everyone will accuse them of stealing yours. They are in the same boat you are and I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening. You just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.
Iced said, May 07, 2009, 07:55:24 pmSethZankuten said, May 07, 2009, 07:52:38 pm I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening. how did you try and how did you know this situation was gonna happen? I've sent that information to Alucard. How did I know this was gonna happen....when Alucard's batman first showed up on Youtube videos Unlimited teams swore it was their batman.....and in fact it looked very very close. I had a beta of Alucards batman and Showed them Sprite by Sprite Unlimited vs Alucards....They were different side bside. Different Heights, Width, Detail, and Even Capes. I then suggested that they talk with Alucard because they had such similar styles and had a very similar view on Batman, that should promote working together. The Unlimited team were happy to do so (they would even do so uncredited if Magus and Alucard agreed to the offer). Why this didn't go down, is a private matter between a few select people. After a few weeks The Unlimited team figured it was a solid no and begun to finish their Batman so that they could have another solid release after Deadpool. After the Release of Alucard's Batman....they were in awe of how close some of the sprites were too their Early work on their batman (non of their new stuff). Some of the sprites were actually crossed over from one sprite artist that worked on both Batman characters, that had been edited different ways. Others are unexplained on how either team had the capes and other aspects match perfectly. This drama was going to all be kept secret so that no one looked bad and everyone came out on top...but now that everyone has exploded I might as well show how trivial everyone is being. @ AlucardThey knew about your batman after you had him posted on Youtube.....because everyone saw that video.
Hey yo.. SethZankutenSo seth you and alucard on the same team, stop defending people of other teams and learn to stand in behalf of yours
.(O). said, May 05, 2009, 07:26:23 pmQuoteall in all im waiting for a decent flash. its ironic, my favorite dc charcter and NO ONE has created a good completed version of him yet, its like im not supposed to be happy, story of my life. why do fate and destiny insist on mocking me, its not fair dammitahhhh....give me a break! you do know i was joking right?
John_Cena said, May 07, 2009, 08:31:39 pmHey yo.. SethZankutenSo seth you and alucard on the same team, stop defending people of other teams and learn to stand in behalf of yoursSeth Doesn't Have To Choose. Maybe He Sees Major Points For Both Opposing Sides...
SethZankuten said, May 07, 2009, 08:14:11 pmThis drama was going to all be kept secret so that no one looked bad and everyone came out on top...but now that everyone has exploded I might as well show how trivial everyone is being. This is the bit I don't get - surely it was a secret until you posted the big "Objection!" image... at which point the explosions started. Why do that, rather than continue trying to sort things out behind the scenes?
The Toxic Avenger said, May 07, 2009, 09:01:22 pmand you are?I am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement daybuy the payperview
John_Cena said, May 08, 2009, 02:36:22 amI am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement daybuy the payperviewAnd you are the reason I completely stopped watching wrestling about 5 years ago.I like this char. I could care less about the circumstances surrounding his source material.Best Batman for mugen right now, so thanks.
atomicbuster said, May 08, 2009, 04:48:44 amJohn_Cena said, May 08, 2009, 02:36:22 amI am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement daybuy the payperviewAnd you are the reason I completely stopped watching wrestling about 5 years ago.I like this char. I could care less about the circumstances surrounding his source material.Best Batman for mugen right now, so thanks.Dont pay the payperview , and go and watch , cartoons or porn.. or hentai..
I think that is enough of drama, right? lets focus on the char. Repply to KFM statement:QuoteI mean really, you people thought this thing was GOOD? Wow, low standards guys, low standards.I never told that this char is AMAZING, I told that is BETTER than other Batmans out there. And it is, you have to agree with that.Sure, there are tons of errors (I'm making a review to show him), somethings that doesn't make sense (like all the batmovel stuff to shoot a missile) but there are some very nice things, like the cool SGS-like move (at least, its differerent of the others out there).So, this char HAS a potential, for sure. The way the ideas were excuted aren't too good, but its just a matter of fact to help the creator, showing stuff to make him improve, fixing the bugs, etc. I saw a lot of good chars ruined not by the creators itselves, but by WHO surrounded they. Feedbacks like "OMFG ITS RULEZ" doesn't helps, at all. Neither the "THIS SUCKS HARD" ones.This is WAY better than simply come here, start a drama, blaming the creator....or I'm wrong?Think about it guys.
Seth posted what he did not to 'go against his team' - but to help them save face. They were endorsing, front page, the release of a character that he himself knew contained stolen or otherwise lifted material. I'm sorry if I missed something, but I learned from Scruffy themselves that stealing is mugen's biggest no-no. We lost Gotham Knights to it, lost Symbiote Spidey to it, and almost lost Ghost Rider to it. It'd be a tad hypocritical of them to say 'Yeah, we needed a Batman though, it's cool this time.' Seth realized this, and posted what he did. How, exactly, is that acting against his team's best interests?Alucard, pal of mine... listen up:alucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 08:12:59 pmYou just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.We saw your Batman in the April Fool's teaser video. We weren't threatened, nor impressed. We were a bit miffed at the passing similarity, but it wasn't anything to start up about. We were later approached separately by certain members of SD who informed us that YOU were being a drama queen and threatening to pull your Batman from Scruffyversary. We were asked if we might polish ours off to fill the void if need be, and those negotiations began. That's from where the apology sprung - because I had old, old, old bad blood with one of SD, and that's frankly very much not your business. Anyway, later you apparently made good with the person you had drama with - who I'll be kind not to name - and we were told that our assistance wouldn't be needed. Que sera, sera.When your character actually dropped, we went into a bit of an uproar back in our little corner. It turned out that we hadn't been paranoid, and that much of the spriting within was at some point derived from our work. Seth thought that it might reflect poorly on Scruffy since they'd trusted you... so here we are. You're free to deny it, we're not asking for anything of you. Nobody called for your head on a pike, nobody asked you to quit. We didn't send hate mail, post about it ourselves, or DDoS your site. Even if we were to act the peanut gallery, everyone loves your character and nobody would care. So we're not going to bother. The only one inviting drama is you.Although I will offer one bit of advice... When you storm off and go 'OH MY GOD I'M QUITTING FOREVER!' you're not supposed to continue posting for days afterwards. Kinda dampens the whole 'martyr for noble theft' effect. I've said my peace. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a set of basics to remake for Bruce. Oddly, ours just don't look original anymore. Have a happy little life, friend.
A New Challenger said, May 08, 2009, 05:48:02 pmSeth posted what he did not to 'go against his team' - but to help them save face. They were endorsing, front page, the release of a character that he himself knew contained stolen or otherwise lifted material. I'm sorry if I missed something, but I learned from Scruffy themselves that stealing is mugen's biggest no-no. We lost Gotham Knights to it, lost Symbiote Spidey to it, and almost lost Ghost Rider to it. It'd be a tad hypocritical of them to say 'Yeah, we needed a Batman though, it's cool this time.' Seth realized this, and posted what he did. How, exactly, is that acting against his team's best interests?Alucard, pal of mine... listen up:alucard1610 said, May 07, 2009, 08:12:59 pmYou just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.We saw your Batman in the April Fool's teaser video. We weren't threatened, nor impressed. We were a bit miffed at the passing similarity, but it wasn't anything to start up about. We were later approached separately by certain members of SD who informed us that YOU were being a drama queen and threatening to pull your Batman from Scruffyversary. We were asked if we might polish ours off to fill the void if need be, and those negotiations began. That's from where the apology sprung - because I had old, old, old bad blood with one of SD, and that's frankly very much not your business. Anyway, later you apparently made good with the person you had drama with - who I'll be kind not to name - and we were told that our assistance wouldn't be needed. Que sera, sera.When your character actually dropped, we went into a bit of an uproar back in our little corner. It turned out that we hadn't been paranoid, and that much of the spriting within was at some point derived from our work. Seth thought that it might reflect poorly on Scruffy since they'd trusted you... so here we are. You're free to deny it, we're not asking for anything of you. Nobody called for your head on a pike, nobody asked you to quit. We didn't send hate mail, post about it ourselves, or DDoS your site. Even if we were to act the peanut gallery, everyone loves your character and nobody would care. So we're not going to bother. The only one inviting drama is you.Although I will offer one bit of advice... When you storm off and go 'OH MY GOD I'M QUITTING FOREVER!' you're not supposed to continue posting for days afterwards. Kinda dampens the whole 'martyr for noble theft' effect. I've said my peace. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a set of basics to remake for Bruce. Oddly, ours just don't look original anymore. Have a happy little life, friend.Look man you dont need to talk in riddles, it only shows that your personal grudge against me and magus is evident and you dont have any proofs to stand behind this corny words, have a nice life too dude
.(O). said, May 08, 2009, 04:25:36 pms char HAS a potential, for sure. The way the ideas were excuted aren't too good, but its just a matter of fact to help the creator, showing stuff to make him improve, fixing the bugs, etc.[/b] I saw a lot of good chars ruined not by the creators itselves, but by WHO surrounded they. Feedbacks like "OMFG ITS RULEZ" doesn't helps, at all. Neither the "THIS SUCKS HARD" ones.Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters. The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.
