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Title: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on February 19, 2018, 03:16:15 pm
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The goal is not to create the "Ultimate Vega", but to create a "decent Vega" that can serve as a base for the creators of mugen experts in Street Fighter.
To that end, I am separating the colors of the Insanius CvS sprites and adding them to the Memo POTS template.
Mainly I am taking as a base the "cvsbalrog" by rei; although I also take references from "'Vega'" by N64Mario, "Balrog" by Felicity, and other chars.

Credits

- CvS2 sprites ripped by Insanius: https://www.spriters-resource.com/playstation_2/capvssnk2/sheet/42435/
- Small Portrait by NDSilva: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ndsilva-small-portraits-157293.0.html
- Hyper Portrait by Froz: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/frozs-graphic-workshop-140268.40.html
- CvS Midnight Bliss by Xenomic: https://xenomic.deviantart.com/art/Midnight-Bliss-Vega-CvS-Spritesheet-Unpaletted-492004626
- Beatiful Taunt from SFA by bis1994.

Definitive palette template (based on the works of Froz and Chatman)

(https://imgur.com/C8mFl5b.png)

Default palette: SFA3 A-Ism Punch

(https://imgur.com/Gi2guod.png)

Screenshot in game (not playable yet)

(https://imgur.com/87FDnLl.png)

Demo Video



Download CS sprites (not finished): https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-193160.0.html (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-193160.0.html)

Download Vega char (finished): https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-cvs2-190592.new.html#new (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-cvs2-190592.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Trololo on February 19, 2018, 03:51:47 pm
Heh. So, finally, someone is going to make Vega AND release him... I'll be looking forward to this release.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: kaczor787 on February 19, 2018, 04:39:31 pm
Me too.. ;) Keep going
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: K4thos on February 19, 2018, 05:06:45 pm
Well, damn, after all these years finally pots vega. Weird that this character is unpopular among mugen community, when he appeared in so many Capcom games.

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although I also take references from "'Vega'" by N64Mario
Are you planning to add cage like in SFA and N64Mario's version?

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I have little to no knowledge regarding mugen character coding but I always wondered if it's possible to implement Vega's claw and mask functionality for throws etc. I'm aware that the problem is caused by forcing changestate but on the other hand - why people don't use different palettes for Vega when he loses the mask and claw? (you know, duplicated palette that looks the same but for example with claw pixels changed to transparency, swapped on-the-fly during battle). If this is not possible, any ideas what exactly the engine is missing in order to implement this functionality without conflicting with other chars? Considering Ikemen is open source maybe we could do something about it.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on February 19, 2018, 05:34:49 pm
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Are you planning to add cage like in SFA and N64Mario's version?

Maybe. The "climbing the cage" sprites are in the Insanius's spritepack.

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I have little to no knowledge regarding mugen character coding but I always wondered if it's possible to implement Vega's claw and mask functionality for throws etc. I'm aware that the problem is caused by forcing changestate but on the other hand - why people don't use different palettes for Vega when he loses the mask and claw? (you know, duplicated palette that looks the same but for example with claw pixels changed to transparency, swapped on-the-fly during battle). If this is not possible, any ideas what exactly the engine is missing in order to implement this functionality without conflicting with other chars? Considering Ikemen is open source maybe we could do something about it.

The problem is that there is no way to know what sprites the opponent uses for the custom states, or how he uses them (modifying the scale, rotating, etc.).

The method of the palette is somewhat complex and I do not know if it could be applied in this case.
For now, my goal is to get a char that works in Mugen 1.0 and does not have serious errors.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: K4thos on February 19, 2018, 05:38:57 pm
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Mainly I am taking as a base the "cvsbalrog" by rei
the last time I checked rei's CVS2 characters (http://gal129.webcrow.jp/Hosted/hosted.html) something about them felt off. Not sure if he improved over the years (last edit done in 2015 and I've been testing that Vega back in 2010, I think), but if you decide to use actual CVS2 data, check out Jesuszilla's tool (http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/202569/cvs2-cfj-hitbox-viewer-data-tool-for-pcsx2-1-2-1-r5875) and CVS2 Bible (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2350795).

I'm aware that you're not aiming for accuracy but I'm posting it just in case you're not aware about these resources.

edit:
SF4 framedata (https://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/nov/13/vega-claw-frame-data-street-fighter-4/) and hitboxes (https://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2011/sep/30/vegas-hit-box-information-super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition/). Also Street Fighter 2 (https://doctorguile.github.io/ssf2st/old-chars/vega/).
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on February 19, 2018, 07:14:27 pm
oh wow! wonderful! finally a vega!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Prime SC on February 19, 2018, 07:26:12 pm
noiccee
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fob1aZ on February 19, 2018, 07:49:16 pm
Love it!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on February 20, 2018, 11:24:50 pm
Nice! To avoid the custom states issue, you can make him without deteachable claw and mask, like raposo’s one
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Rtrindade on February 21, 2018, 02:33:18 am
Here's Vega by Fido maybe it might be useful in sprites:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/p00s1cunms4e2ph/balrog_mx_v04.rar
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on February 21, 2018, 07:03:11 am
Always excited to see one of my favorite Street Fighter characters getting some love. Even if the template is temporary, I wanted to supply some palettes:

(https://i.imgur.com/Mg80ukq.png) Alpha.

(https://i.imgur.com/7nv4Hj1.png) SFV.

I'll drop some more down once they're done. Is he going to have charge commands or motions, or would there be a config file for that?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on February 21, 2018, 11:34:13 am
Thanks, Project.13!

For now I think of creating two cmd files: one with easy commands, and one with the original charge commands (I'm very bad with the charge characters, so I'll need help to test that file).

It is still too early to think about that, for now I am adding the basic animations.

Thank you all for the support, I hope not to disappoint you.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on February 21, 2018, 07:16:36 pm
Got three more for ya:

(https://i.imgur.com/WUhxiMm.png) Kane [WWE]

(https://i.imgur.com/FdVR08T.png) Wolverine [X-Men]

(https://i.imgur.com/OEXilCk.png) Zarbon [DBZ]

Good luck with this, man. Can't wait to see more and how it goes along!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Afterthought on February 21, 2018, 08:04:19 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WUhxiMm.png) Kane [WWE]

God bless your soul.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from Street Fighter (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on February 22, 2018, 04:21:49 pm
nice pals so far!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on November 14, 2018, 05:28:11 pm
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[Update 2018/11/14]

Sorry for waiting...

- Palette template updated (it's the definitive palette template, I'm not going to update anymore, it's too tedious).
- Added 24 "classic" palettes.
- Added more sprites and animations.
- Added some tests for intros and winposes.

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Retro Respecter on November 14, 2018, 06:03:55 pm
I await this with baited breath...
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: xcheatdeath on November 14, 2018, 06:06:11 pm
I am HYPE on this, here's another/alternate small portrait. already compatible with his pal

(https://i.imgur.com/VVC6xMJ.png)
 download here (https://www.mediafire.com/file/s9t9ea359ygjzxg/Vega_Small_Portrait.pcx/file)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: KOFHƎRO77 on November 14, 2018, 08:14:31 pm
HOW DID I MISS THIS ??!!! Dude that is sick,im gonna make some pals for it when i get home
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: WatsonGrim69 on November 26, 2018, 10:22:03 pm
Hades caught slipping. Due his other works, Never finished/Released Claw. This is gonna be promising. Keeping a eye on this. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: thebigguy270 on November 26, 2018, 11:43:44 pm
I had no idea how much I needed this until now.
I'm gonna keep an eye on this. SO PUMPED!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on January 04, 2019, 02:17:44 pm
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[Update 2019/01/04]

Happy new year!

- Palette template and palettes updated (same colors, fixed some sprites).
- Added more sprites and animations.
- Added some sprites edits from SFA for alternatives winposes.
- Color separation progress: 501 sprites done from 1474 (33,99% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 06, 2019, 02:07:11 am
im excited for this char! good luck!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on February 06, 2019, 05:34:09 pm
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 [Update 2019/02/06]
- Added more sprites and animations.
- Added sprites edits from SFA: "beautiful taunt" (thanks to bis1994), cage and alternative lose pose.
The cage is only aesthetic for now, Vega can't climb yet. Active it by pressing and holding "start" during the intro. AI activates it automatically during single mode.
- Mask and claw during custom animations? Possible with compatible characters, but difficult to implement (more details in spoiler).
- Color separation progress: 562 sprites done from 1474 (38,12% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

(https://i.imgur.com/iUTgIBP.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/onQc79d.png)

Mask and claw during custom animations?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 08, 2019, 02:47:52 pm
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 [Update 2019/02/06]

- Added more sprites and animations. 
- Added "wall jump" and "cage climb".

"Cage climb" is only aesthetic for now, Vega can't attack from cage yet. When cage is on the stage, active it by pressing and holding "down", then release and press "up" and two kicks (~30$D, $U, a+b).

- Some attacks added or fixed: stand light punch, crouch light punch, jump light kick and jump medium kick.
- Color separation progress: 604 sprites done from 1474 (40,98% done). 

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

(https://i.imgur.com/K81lzoc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BRRV8RC.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: 2Dee4ever on March 08, 2019, 05:25:43 pm
Do you want help with this separation? I had been meaning to tell you. I’m working on this character as well.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 08, 2019, 05:32:09 pm
Do you want help with this separation? I had been meaning to tell you. I’m working on this character as well.

That would be very useful, since the color separation is what takes me most time.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: 2Dee4ever on March 08, 2019, 05:45:50 pm
Alright, going to start with the basic attacks. You can continue on with the dodge, parry etc.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on March 08, 2019, 07:30:39 pm
char looking good so far buddy! cant wait for him!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: 2Dee4ever on March 09, 2019, 02:56:13 am
Does anyone have this sff? It's apparent this guy isn't ever going to finish him, but it looks as though Fausto has you all covered. I know someone has to have it, he actually gave it to me long ago, but I've gotten a new pc since then. If you want this to finally happen that is, help expedite the process.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 22, 2019, 03:09:01 pm
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[Update 2019/03/22]

- Added more sprites and animations: parry (air, stand and crouching) and dodge.
- Some minor fixes.
- Color separation progress: 637 sprites done from 1474 (43,22% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on March 22, 2019, 11:00:45 pm
How is the percentage of the codes?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on March 23, 2019, 11:41:01 am
yo, waited a long time for this. good luck :D
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: DJMouF on March 25, 2019, 07:14:15 am
Man a Char that no one has mane in Pots Style yet... This will be the best version thus far! This here inspires me to finish my 3 Pots Style DBZ Mugen chars! One is about 95% done. But anyways keep up the great work man
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on March 26, 2019, 03:22:45 am

(https://i.imgur.com/K81lzoc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BRRV8RC.png)

:shocked2: :shocked2: :shocked2:
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on May 24, 2019, 05:19:17 pm
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/05/24]

- Added more sprites and animations: all intros, missing winposes and guard crush (air).
- Added stand medium punch.
- Added Back Slash and Short Back Slash.
- Added Scarlet Mirage (level 1 and 2).
- Added Red Impact (level 3 with claw only).
- Added more palettes by Project.13, Froz, davismaximus and sethzel.
- Added "Readme.txt" file.
- Some minor fixes.
- Color separation progress: 868 sprites done from 1474 (58,89% done). 

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

Off topic: Splendid Claw?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on May 24, 2019, 05:35:38 pm
It's a good rendition, just the hairtail needs some more movement.
Also any chance of an updated color template?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on May 24, 2019, 05:42:40 pm
Also any chance of an updated color template?

The palette template is updated and is the final one, I will not modify the colors anymore. It's in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on May 25, 2019, 07:03:40 pm
those sprites look awesome. always can find some good sprites in fido chars! nice work on vega so far!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on June 10, 2019, 05:24:41 pm
Hello, I'm still working on Vega, I hope to publish the progress on this Wednesday (my birthday xD). I'm looking for similar effects to these, to add them to the supers.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on June 11, 2019, 08:39:03 am
well happy birthday to you :D ant btw, sorry that i didn't know where are those who you really try to find.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on June 11, 2019, 09:57:02 am
I ain't seen sh~t for palettes yet so I did a thing:

CvS Choi Bounge
(https://i.imgur.com/QYAtDzM.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on June 12, 2019, 07:10:42 pm
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/06/12]

Today is my birthday :D , and to celebrate I share more progress of Vega. Enjoy!



- Added stand ligth kick.
- Added Remove Claw and Remove Mask.
- Added Sky-High Claw.
- Bloody High Claw in development, does not work yet (level 2).
-Added config for activation cage in specific stages (see "Config.txt" file).
- Added more palettes by davismaximus, sethzel and RagingRowen.
- Added more triggers for winquotes, intros and winposes: now Vega should be compatible with more characters.
- Changed code for slash sparks.
- Changed SprPriority code for Vega, mask and claw.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file.
- Some minor fixes.
- Color separation progress: 883 sprites done from 1474 (59,91% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

well happy birthday to you :D ant btw, sorry that i didn't know where are those who you really try to find.

Thank you!

I ain't seen sh~t for palettes yet so I did a thing:

CvS Choi Bounge
(https://i.imgur.com/QYAtDzM.png)


Thank you for the palette, I added to Vega.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on June 12, 2019, 07:30:39 pm
Shouldn't the Level 2 Scarlet Mirage do 3 Flips?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: DeathScythe on June 12, 2019, 08:29:01 pm
HBD! Nice to see some progress on him, keep it up and don't rush, just take your time.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on June 14, 2019, 07:33:02 am
well happy birthday to you :D ant btw, sorry that i didn't know where are those who you really try to find.

RIP, my Spelling for "and"
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on July 12, 2019, 04:41:07 pm
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[Update 2019/07/12]

"Soak in your own blood! Bloody High Claw!"



- Added Bloody High Claw (level 2 only).
- Added a throw: Rainbow Suplex.
- Added stand strong punch.
- Added dash forwards (incomplete, lack of sprites).
- Changed SprPriority code for Vega, claw and mask.
- Changed AfterImage code: now claw and mask appears during afterimages.
- Fixed Parry, Custom Combo and MAX Mode: aligned FXs and added sounds.
- Remove Claw and Remove Mask now reset claw hits and mask hits to the max values.
- Added jump dust FX to Back Slash, Short Back Slash and Scarlet Terror.
- Temporary disabled AI commands in CMD file.
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 968 sprites done from 1474 (65,67% done). 

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on July 12, 2019, 08:55:32 pm
The only feedback I have is that MAX Scarlet Mirage only does 2 Flips and the Stand Strong Punch only does 1 hit.
The Red Impact should probably have a stronger hit sound aswell if you can find one.
I feel like Splendid Claw (which you have planned) would be good as a Level 3, he'd have too many LVL2s if not.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Jmorphman on July 13, 2019, 01:32:10 am
Bloody High Claw looks great!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on July 14, 2019, 09:35:05 am
well.... i wasn't expecting this for a loooooooonnngggg time... lol, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: NDSilva on July 15, 2019, 12:18:25 am
Some Claw pals:


Soccer attempt 1
(https://i.imgur.com/rvsfIsO.png)


Soccer attempt 2
(https://i.imgur.com/5KSEfCo.png)


Donovan
(https://i.imgur.com/XPO52l7.png)

I find it weird that the Midnight Bliss sprite have a glove separation, but not a top separation...
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on July 15, 2019, 03:15:04 pm
The only feedback I have is that MAX Scarlet Mirage only does 2 Flips and the Stand Strong Punch only does 1 hit.
The Red Impact should probably have a stronger hit sound aswell if you can find one.
I feel like Splendid Claw (which you have planned) would be good as a Level 3, he'd have too many LVL2s if not.


- MAX Scarlet Mirage is based on the level 2 version of rei's cvsbalrog. I think the Falcon Rapper version does two flips, maybe I can adapt his attack to my version.

-This is supposed to be so, that attack should not hit more than once.

- I'll see what I can do, maybe I can turn up the volume or something.

- I think the same, I forgot to update that in the file "Readme.txt".

Thanks for the feedback!

Bloody High Claw looks great!

Thank you very much! I admire your work, you are one of the authors that I take as a reference for Vega.

well.... i wasn't expecting this for a loooooooonnngggg time... lol, keep up the good work!

Thank you!

I find it weird that the Midnight Bliss sprite have a glove separation, but not a top separation...

Thank you for the pals! I will add to Vega in the next update.

Those Midnight Bliss sprites are based on the SvC version, where Vega uses a glove on that hand. When I adapted the colors to my version, I was not sure how to color that part, so I thought "bah, it's just three colors", and I left it that way
xD
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on July 15, 2019, 03:24:05 pm
- MAX Scarlet Mirage is based on the level 2 version of rei's cvsbalrog. I think the Falcon Rapper version does two flips, maybe I can adapt his attack to my version.
It's typical to make him do 3 attacks opposed to 2 for MAX supers.
In that vast majority of PotS chars including those of the Likes of Jmorphman and Divinewolf, the MAX versions of Supers are based off of the Level 3/MAX variation.
For example: Kyo's Orochinagi (Where he sets himself on fire while the button's held down) or Ken's Shoryureppa (3 Shoryukens opposed to 2 like I said).
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: NDSilva on July 15, 2019, 07:48:34 pm
Those Midnight Bliss sprites are based on the SvC version, where Vega uses a glove on that hand. When I adapted the colors to my version, I was not sure how to color that part, so I thought "bah, it's just three colors", and I left it that way
xD
Wait... Vega has gloves in SvC!? o_O

Now seriously, lol. I just wanted to point out that adding a separation to the Midnight Bliss top/chest would be a suitable idea, because then she doesn't need to seem "nude" whenever someone makes a non-tatoo Vega palette. And because there's already a glove separation, I thought it would be just as easy to add that. :P



Spoiler: Oh, well... Actually... (click to see content)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on July 16, 2019, 01:58:14 am
I just wanted to point out that adding a separation to the Midnight Bliss top/chest would be a suitable idea, because then she doesn't need to seem "nude" whenever someone makes a non-tatoo Vega palette. And because there's already a glove separation, I thought it would be just as easy to add that. :P


Oh, well... Actually...

I just made it myself :ninja:

Since you made his beta avaiable, and becuse it was, indeed, relatively easy to do!


So if you want, just patch it into the folder: http://www.mediafire.com/file/3h64ppgpjydzjd2/Vega_CS_Update.rar/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3h64ppgpjydzjd2/Vega_CS_Update.rar/file)

No need to really worry about that. :)

I really appreciate the work you did, and I think it's a good idea. However, I can not apply it, for two reasons:

1. "Midnight Bliss Top" uses only 4 colors, there is a color in the template that is not being used.

2. I must apply any change in the template also to the sprite pack, since I plan to launch it as a resource for other authors. That is, I should reindex the almost one thousand sprites that I have now, and it is very tedious.

Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your interest in this char.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: NDSilva on July 16, 2019, 09:37:45 am
Ok, I understand that. It's fine either way. :)



Btw, some more slim pals: :c00l:


Decapre
(https://i.imgur.com/j3dxT4N.png)


Orochimaru
(https://i.imgur.com/V7n1pvh.png)


Balrog
(https://i.imgur.com/CoUZAxK.png)

Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on July 16, 2019, 12:12:31 pm
lol, those are one hell of an awesome palettes. XD
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: KOFHƎRO77 on July 16, 2019, 01:39:05 pm
Ken Masters(SFV)
(https://i.imgur.com/iUwjS82.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: NDSilva on July 18, 2019, 10:17:43 am
Painwheel
(https://i.imgur.com/MxbVdvt.png)

Iron Fist V1
(https://i.imgur.com/YeppId5.png)

Iron Fist V2
(https://i.imgur.com/3BM4p25.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on July 18, 2019, 05:20:16 pm
my goodness those pals are awesome!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: NDSilva on July 19, 2019, 01:33:48 pm
Indeed! :2thumbsup:



Alright, I went just a liiitle bit weirder with these next ones: :P


Mack The Knife / Mummy Commando
(https://i.imgur.com/yUwibA5.png)

Carol
(https://i.imgur.com/qteH9Kp.png)

Marrow
(https://i.imgur.com/GeoM0lV.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on July 19, 2019, 02:37:20 pm
Beautiful palettes! I will include them all in the next update. Thank you!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on July 20, 2019, 07:10:59 am
no shit sherlock, but it seems NDSilva is the best Palette creator ever seen in my entire fucking life, i really like your palettes tho! :D
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Prime SC on July 20, 2019, 09:07:20 am
damn this looks good
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: BahamianKing242 on July 21, 2019, 03:49:28 am
wow that marrow one is sick! good job silva!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: sabockee on August 02, 2019, 12:14:30 pm
Lord Raptor
(https://i.imgur.com/pUhddqI.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: KOFHƎRO77 on August 02, 2019, 02:45:38 pm
Ralf
(https://i.imgur.com/wk9vlEM.png)
And an update to my previous pal
(https://i.imgur.com/zmaGL28.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on August 08, 2019, 06:40:13 pm
Thank you very much for the palettes!

By the way, I plan release a new update this Monday 08/12. If someone wants provide feedback, more palettes, edited sprites, etc., I could include them in the new update.

Than you all for the interest in this char :)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on August 08, 2019, 06:42:38 pm
Will you still add a third Scarlet Mirage flip?
I'd also see what specials you'll add next.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: KOFHƎRO77 on August 08, 2019, 09:57:57 pm
Karin
(https://i.imgur.com/DDaBgl8.png)
Also got for you 2 alt small ports
(https://i.imgur.com/aFSVRmd.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PzpHd6A.png)
(For this one i was kinda confused about what colors to use for the tongue so i used the rose petals color,it looks kinda weird on some palettes)
Both of these were made by HadeS,just adapted them to your CS
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on August 13, 2019, 06:26:59 pm
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/08/13]



- Added more palettes by sethzel, _Data_Drain_, Koldskool, Aldo, Infinite Intel, Moon Girard, NDSilva, sabockee and K0FH3R077.
- Added dash forwards and run forwards.
- Added all jump normals.
- Added all crouching kicks.
- Changed command for Climb Cage.
- Changed BindToRoot code for Vega, mask and claw: now Vega, mask and claw shakes during "no custom" hits.
- Added sprites for fall recovery near ground.
- Updated Scarlet Mirage MAX: now does three flips and more hits.
- Added Flying Barcelona Attack (aerial slash only): normal and ex versions. Normal version works from cage too.
- Added Flying Barcelona Special (aerial slash only): level 1 and level 2 versions. Level 2 version works from cage too.
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1094 sprites done from 1474 (74,22% done). 

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on August 13, 2019, 06:46:32 pm
Suggestions:
- Edit the cage priority, becuase the Level 3 Port appears behind it, or vice versa.
- Add a Level 1 Cage Barcelona Special, if you wanna keep it to "s" I'd suggest making the Level 2 come out if you hold s before the superpause.
- Add more pause-time to the Red Impact finish, and maybe add an echo-ish sound, like what I did here:
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/itg05g64h9henf9/cut.wav?dl=0
Edit:
- He's missing the startup dash sound when he runs.
- Bloody High Claw could do with a lil' extra damage.
- The Super Finish text isn't centered well at certain points.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on August 14, 2019, 03:54:23 am
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/05/24]

- Added more sprites and animations: all intros, missing winposes and guard crush (air).
- Added stand medium punch.
- Added Back Slash and Short Back Slash.
- Added Scarlet Mirage (level 1 and 2).
- Added Red Impact (level 3 with claw only).
- Added more palettes by Project.13, Froz, davismaximus and sethzel.
- Added "Readme.txt" file.
- Some minor fixes.
- Color separation progress: 868 sprites done from 1474 (58,89% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

Off topic: Splendid Claw?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Will you add this move too?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: davismaximus on August 14, 2019, 04:54:44 am
Since you already converted my other pals over, I made another spooky one:

8bit horror
(https://i.imgur.com/I9PrOch.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on August 14, 2019, 02:26:00 pm
Suggestions:
- Edit the cage priority, becuase the Level 3 Port appears behind it, or vice versa.
- Add a Level 1 Cage Barcelona Special, if you wanna keep it to "s" I'd suggest making the Level 2 come out if you hold s before the superpause.
- Add more pause-time to the Red Impact finish, and maybe add an echo-ish sound, like what I did here:
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/itg05g64h9henf9/cut.wav?dl=0
Edit:
- He's missing the startup dash sound when he runs.
- Bloody High Claw could do with a lil' extra damage.
- The Super Finish text isn't centered well at certain points.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions, I will consider for the next update.

However:

1 - I don't plan add a level 1 for the supermoves from the cage.
In SFA3, they were level 3 only, and I would have to add more commands for that too.
2 - I will see what I can do with the Red Impact move, but I don't think I can do much more. In the original games it was a quick move, simpler than "dramatic" xD

Will you add this move too?

I plan add the Splendid Claw move, but it will take time, since I have to edit the sprites.

Since you already converted my other pals over, I made another spooky one:

8bit horror
Thank you very much for your palettes, I appreciate your work.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on September 03, 2019, 04:03:14 pm
I am still working in Vega, I hope to release an update on Friday 13. Please, review the poll in the first post, about the voice to use in Vega.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: DeathScythe on September 03, 2019, 04:47:18 pm
You could include the 3 but as separated files, and then we could change it in the def

sound = CvS.snd
;sound = SFV_JP.snd
;sound = SFV_EN.snd
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on September 13, 2019, 05:57:42 pm
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/09/13]

- Added more palettes by Spec Gespenst and davismaximus.
- Added a throw: Crescent Line.
- Added Alpha Counter (punch and kick versions).
- Added Rolling Crystal Flash (incomplete, lack of sprites).
- Now Vega does 10% more damage, and receive 10% more damage, when mask is off. This effect can be combined with MAX Mode.
- Fixed hitspark position for Flying Barcelona Attack and Flying Barcelona Special when enemy is behind.
- Incremented damage for Bloody High Claw.
- Updated Red Impact: decremented initial pausetime. Changed pausetime and sound in the last hit. For the target, changed velocities and added a horizontal "shake" effect in the last hit.
- Changed sprpriority for the cage: now would must be looks better when the level 3 portrait appears.
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1181 sprites done from 1474 (80,12% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on September 14, 2019, 03:40:33 am
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/09/13]

- Added more palettes by Spec Gespenst and davismaximus.
- Added a throw: Crescent Line.
- Added Alpha Counter (punch and kick versions).
- Added Rolling Crystal Flash (incomplete, lack of sprites).
- Now Vega does 10% more damage, and receive 10% more damage, when mask is off. This effect can be combined with MAX Mode.
- Fixed hitspark position for Flying Barcelona Attack and Flying Barcelona Special when enemy is behind.
- Incremented damage for Bloody High Claw.
- Updated Red Impact: decremented initial pausetime. Changed pausetime and sound in the last hit. For the target, changed velocities and added a horizontal "shake" effect in the last hit.
- Changed sprpriority for the cage: now would must be looks better when the level 3 portrait appears.
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1181 sprites done from 1474 (80,12% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

good job, brotha!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on September 21, 2019, 09:57:43 am
This Vega is absolutely amazing! Question... why people call him Balrog in the Asian region?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: DeathScythe on September 21, 2019, 10:17:30 am
This Vega is absolutely amazing! Question... why people call him Balrog in the Asian region?

Because that is how he was originally called, since Street Fighter was created in Japan.
When the game was ported to USA, they changed the names to avoid copyright issues with Mike Tyson and Mike Bison (boxer), he became Balrog, Balrog became Vega and Vega became Bison.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on September 25, 2019, 09:05:24 pm
This Vega is absolutely amazing! Question... why people call him Balrog in the Asian region?

Because that is how he was originally called, since Street Fighter was created in Japan.
When the game was ported to USA, they changed the names to avoid copyright issues with Mike Tyson and Mike Bison (boxer), he became Balrog, Balrog became Vega and Vega became Bison.

Wow! Okay, when I make Bison well... Vega, I'mma put CPS2 Dictator (PotS Style) so no one can get confused

Sorry for going off topic
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on October 03, 2019, 03:49:30 pm
Wow, it seems a lot of people don't like the USFIV voice of Vega xD.
Maybe I will release some patch for the voice (fourth option in the poll), but it will not be a priority for now.

Thanks for the interest in the char, there will be news soon.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Tickle Nuts on October 04, 2019, 12:44:05 am
I'm greener than grass here. Wth is "pots" style not being rude just curious. I see it plastered everywhere in MUGEN but never bothered to look.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: DeathScythe on October 04, 2019, 12:51:13 am
I'm greener than grass here. Wth is "pots" style not being rude just curious. I see it plastered everywhere in MUGEN but never bothered to look.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/an-explainer-pots-style-187886.0.html
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on October 18, 2019, 03:49:16 pm
[Google Translate]

[Update 2019/10/18]



- Added more palettes by sabockee.
- Added roll forwards (incomplete, lack of sprites) and roll backwards.
- Added crouching medium punch and crouching strong punch.
- Rolling Crystal Flash done (normal and EX version).
- Added Izuna Drop (normal and EX version).
- Added Rolling Izuna Drop (level 1 and level 2).
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1253 sprites done from 1474 (85,01% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on October 18, 2019, 04:25:39 pm
Ok so,
- Scarlet Terror doesn't need charging.
- His Sky-High and Flying Barcelona moves don't behave correctly on Mugen 1.1 Zoom stages.
- Back Slash should probably have a config to be 3 buttons or 2 becuase you could probably do a throw by accident with it being 2 buttons.
- MAX Scarlet Mirage:
 1. Lacks swing sounds on the last 2 flips.
 2. The delay between the last 2 flips is a bit short compared to the first one.
 3. The last flip could do with a second hit, but not right after its first hit.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: extravagant on October 20, 2019, 03:22:13 am
CvS2 Claw is the most dangerous Claw the world as ever seen in SF games. If you want to make a decent and crazy good one, make sure you follow the CvS2 one mostly. I have a lot of friends who are pro players in CvS2 who love using Claw, and won tournaments and went to EVO. Many of them say CvS2 Claw is the definitive version. Many also don't like him in SF4.

You should make all of his moves somewhat close to a roll cancel if you want to make him really good. CvS2 Claw is ridiculously good..... watch any CvS2 videos on Claw and he is easily super top tier in CvS2.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 12, 2020, 03:44:29 pm
[Google Translate]

It's not a "big update", but I wanted to upload it to show some progress.

[Update 2020/03/12]

- Added "lock camera" helpers for Flying Barcelona moves (specials and supers): now this moves should work better in zoomed stages.
- Added standing medium kick and standing strong kick: all normals done.
- Added more sprites for "Piece of Mercury".
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1287 sprites done from 1474 (87,31% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on March 13, 2020, 03:11:28 pm
[Google Translate]

It's not a "big update", but I wanted to upload it to show some progress.

[Update 2020/03/12]

- Added "lock camera" helpers for Flying Barcelona moves (specials and supers): now this moves should work better in zoomed stages.
- Added standing medium kick and standing strong kick: all normals done.
- Added more sprites for "Piece of Mercury".
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1287 sprites done from 1474 (87,31% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.

holy, it has been months since we last heard this Project from you Fausto! i'm glad that you're still working..!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: PeXXeR on March 13, 2020, 04:10:06 pm
His hitboxes are a bit too chunky the standing one is super wide.
The EX moves look identical to the normal ones  for the charge moves on the punch buttons I would increase the speed as well.
Im not a Vega player and whatnot and barely know the char however I would suggest making the ex moves worth spending the bar for.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on March 13, 2020, 04:26:53 pm
New feedback:
1. I can't seem to Super Cancel into Scarlet Mirage, yet I can cancel into the MAX version just fine.
2. His Slams (e.g. Rainbow Suplex and the Rolling Izuna Drops) don't use the right Sound. 820,2 in Jmorphman's Guile for example is the correct sound.
3. Bloody High Claw doesn't work well with 1.1 Stages with Zoom. https://streamable.com/dc9lg I'd suggest having P2 fall back down again for the state after being hit by the knee to prevent what's shown.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 13, 2020, 05:30:39 pm
His hitboxes are a bit too chunky the standing one is super wide.
The EX moves look identical to the normal ones  for the charge moves on the punch buttons I would increase the speed as well.
Im not a Vega player and whatnot and barely know the char however I would suggest making the ex moves worth spending the bar for.

- Hitboxes are based on rei's Vega, except Bloody High Claw, Remove Claw and Mask, EX versions of Sky-High Claw,  knee hit of EX Flying Barcelona moves. Hitboxes for this moves are based on USFIV.

- EX moves have more damage than the normals, EX Flying Barcelona moves have a knee hit which could be chained in a combo with the rest of the move.

New feedback:
1. I can't seem to Super Cancel into Scarlet Mirage, yet I can cancel into the MAX version just fine.
2. His Slams (e.g. Rainbow Suplex and the Rolling Izuna Drops) don't use the right Sound. 820,2 in Jmorphman's Guile for example is the correct sound.
3. Bloody High Claw doesn't work well with 1.1 Stages with Zoom. https://streamable.com/dc9lg I'd suggest having P2 fall back down again for the state after being hit by the knee to prevent what's shown.


1. Cancels, combos, and other features based on .cmd file are not implemented yet.
2. I'm going to review it.
3. Interesting. What char and stage did you use? I'm going to review it too, along with the other feedbacks.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on March 13, 2020, 05:35:29 pm
Margatroid and Beterhans' SFIV Training with zoomout = 0.6
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 13, 2020, 06:20:22 pm
- Hitboxes are based on rei's Vega, except Bloody High Claw, Remove Claw and Mask, EX versions of Sky-High Claw,  knee hit of EX Flying Barcelona moves. Hitboxes for this moves are based on USFIV.

As an impartial observer, the hitboxes on rei's Vega are at best outdated and at worst and most likely subpar guesswork
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: MCX on March 13, 2020, 10:36:56 pm
- Hitboxes are based on rei's Vega, except Bloody High Claw, Remove Claw and Mask, EX versions of Sky-High Claw,  knee hit of EX Flying Barcelona moves. Hitboxes for this moves are based on USFIV.

I would sugest using N64-Mario's Vega for the hitboxes or at least based on USFIV
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on March 13, 2020, 10:39:00 pm
Or you can try using Jesuszilla's Cheat Engine Script(s) for CVS2 Data
https://github.com/Jesuszilla/cheatengine-scripts
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on March 13, 2020, 11:08:50 pm
Or you can try using Jesuszilla's Cheat Engine Script(s) for CVS2 Data
https://github.com/Jesuszilla/cheatengine-scripts

I tried using that script, but it didn't work for me. My priority for now is color separation and coding, later maybe I'll check the hitboxes.

‐-‐‐--------------------

Edit: I just downloaded the script again and it seems to work  :yikes:. Maybe I update the hitboxes for the next update.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: PeXXeR on March 14, 2020, 12:36:01 am
Margatroid and Beterhans' SFIV Training with zoomout = 0.6

This is your fault tbh .6 zoomout is insane.
I use .9 and .8 and i dont have issues like that.

As for the EX moves its up to you. Combo extender is pretty much useless if you cant land it. The extra damage should be given as well tbh.
I suggest defo speeding them up a tad bit.

Adding the CVS2 hitboxes will be a huge benefit for the char as well. good to see you are considering it.

Don't be afraid to buff the char or express your tastes. Look at what jman did to king. She was hot garbage in CVS2 and the Jman made her very fun to use.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on March 14, 2020, 12:41:21 am
This is your fault tbh .6 zoomout is insane.
I use .9 and .8 and i dont have issues like that.
I guess so, I like a bit of space though.

I tried using that script, but it didn't work for me. My priority for now is color separation and coding, later maybe I'll check the hitboxes.
‐-‐‐--------------------
Edit: I just downloaded the script again and it seems to work  :yikes:. Maybe I update the hitboxes for the next update.

Good news, you can also get stuff like velocities if you're going that far.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on April 12, 2020, 04:24:39 am

https://streamable.com/dc9lg


Lmfao! I can't take his voice seriously ;D

Margatroid and Beterhans' SFIV Training with zoomout = 0.6

This is your fault tbh


Lol! Not really. I think he was testing the distance of Vega's move :book:

-Fausto Mugen

So.. how it going with Vega?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on April 12, 2020, 04:46:20 am
yeah @Fausto Mugen

 how's it going? are you still working on the CS?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on April 12, 2020, 07:24:09 pm
Yes, I am still working on Vega. The CS is over 90%, and I've included Splendid Claw (a lot of frankensprite xD), CvS2 based hitboxes, fixes, etc.

However, due to the quarantine in my country, I am locked up at home with only the internet of my cell phone, so I am not uploading anything for now. Perhaps a new update will be up for the beginning of May.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Inactive user on April 13, 2020, 05:04:56 am
very cool, but i think you mustn't decrease the size for don't lose the graphical quality of sprites.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on April 28, 2020, 01:17:14 am
Well, I hope we get a chance to see Balrog / Vega soon. Be safe, Fausto
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on May 20, 2020, 06:51:33 pm
[Google Translate]
Vega is almost finished. Only missing: a couple of optional animations (Crouch and Air Guard Crush), AI and a some more fixes.

The supermoves "Flying Barcelona Special" and "Rolling Izuna Drop" will stay as they are now, based on the rei version, since I am not able to perform them in the pcsx2 emulator.

[Update 2020/05/20]

- Added Splendid Claw.
- Added Stardust Drop and Air Crescent Line.
- Added Guard Crush and Throw Escape (stand versions).
- Piece of Mercury and Cosmic Heel done.
- Roll Forwads done.
- New hitboxes based in CvS2 and SFA3.
- Fixes for a lot animations (timings, frames, etc.), based in CvS2 and SFA3.
- Changed some velocities and damage values, based in CvS2.
- Changes in EX Sky-High Claw, based in USFIV.
- Deleted "lock camera" helpers and replaced by ScreenBound, for Flyng Barcelona moves, Sky-High Claw, Bloody High Claw and Splendid Claw (this moves could be look a bit weird in zoom stages, but works).
- Back Slash and Short Back Slash now requires press three buttons (see "Readme.txt" file).
- Fixed charge commands.
- Fixed align of power charge particles and some hitsparks.
- Added "rose petals" to Red Impact, Bloody High Claw and Splendid Claw (taken from Ruby Rose by OHMSBY).
- Replaced some sounds by others of better quality.
- Added AI for basic attacks (based in Jmorphman chars).
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file.
- Color separation progress: 1385 sprites done from 1474 (93,96% done).

Download spritepack and char for testing in the first post.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: EgyLynx on May 20, 2020, 07:41:03 pm
Vega... hmm... I remeber one for dos time, Mugen game at one where also Vejita/Goku and so on...
Some say that bad capteins name at Vega (isn´t him Mr Bison?)

Any Oro at... :/ these paletes.. how up these to palete to use?? these at mugen not so separeted, if you  get...
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: RagingRowen on May 26, 2020, 10:12:16 pm
Ok, got to test it and I have a couple more splices of feedback:

1. The Rose FX for Red Impact could be bigger, around the size of the Rose in SvC Chaos.
2. Splendid Claw's Slide should be a little slower.
3. I'd suggest a Slide sound like PotS' or Froz's Bison/Vega for C.HK and Splendid Claw.
4. His (Air) Cresent Line and could do with a Slam sound like that of most PotS chars (Jmorphman's Guile is a fair example).
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: extravagant on May 26, 2020, 10:19:15 pm
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Vega is almost finished. Only missing: a couple of optional animations (Crouch and Air Guard Crush), AI and a some more fixes.

The supermoves "Flying Barcelona Special" and "Rolling Izuna Drop" will stay as they are now, based on the rei version, since I am not able to perform them in the pcsx2 emulator.

[Update 2020/05/20]
- New hitboxes based in CvS2 and SFA3.

Vega (Claw) was at his best in CvS2. I don't think he has any redeeming qualities in Alpha games. Also, the hitboxes are based on CvS2... where are you getting them from? I hope you're not getting from From Gal/Rei's Vega, because those hitboxes are very incorrect and don't function properly. The proper actual data from CvS2, I can help you get it, but tell me where you are getting the data from.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 27, 2020, 01:13:15 am
Or you can try using Jesuszilla's Cheat Engine Script(s) for CVS2 Data
https://github.com/Jesuszilla/cheatengine-scripts

I tried using that script, but it didn't work for me. My priority for now is color separation and coding, later maybe I'll check the hitboxes.

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Edit: I just downloaded the script again and it seems to work  :yikes:. Maybe I update the hitboxes for the next update.
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mastertkof on May 27, 2020, 06:27:11 am
i fail on a try to make a sfv
anyway seems cool on some parts
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFgrFhhM/SFV-BASED-MASTERTKOF.png)
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Momotaro on May 27, 2020, 09:30:20 am
i fail on a try to make a sfv
anyway seems cool on some parts
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFgrFhhM/SFV-BASED-MASTERTKOF.png)

Looks pretty OK to me !
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on May 28, 2020, 02:43:36 am
Ok, got to test it and I have a couple more splices of feedback:

1. The Rose FX for Red Impact could be bigger, around the size of the Rose in SvC Chaos.
2. Splendid Claw's Slide should be a little slower.
3. I'd suggest a Slide sound like PotS' or Froz's Bison/Vega for C.HK and Splendid Claw.
4. His (Air) Cresent Line and could do with a Slam sound like that of most PotS chars (Jmorphman's Guile is a fair example).

1. I will review it, although I don't think I will change it much (I don't like the SvC rose). Anyway, I added it just to give it an aesthetic touch, in CvS2 the attack is much simpler.

2. The idea was that Vega would get from one end of the screen to the other in 15 ticks, but I will review it.

3. I will review it.

4. I am already using the "slam sound" of Jmorphman's Guile in the Izuna Drop moves. I don't like the sound for throws, I think it sounds very strong. If someone wants to suggest some "middle sound" (which sounds lower than Izuna's but louder than the throws), maybe I could change it.

i fail on a try to make a sfv
anyway seems cool on some parts
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFgrFhhM/SFV-BASED-MASTERTKOF.png)

Nice palette! But ... is that green color on the mask intentional?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on June 23, 2020, 02:21:08 am
Today I have finished the color separation for the Vega .sff file. Once I'm done with some fixes, I'll release it, probably in July.

In the meantime, would anyone be interested in doing an AI for this char?
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Mushypepito123 on July 20, 2020, 09:04:15 am
sorry for the late response, but congrats on completing the color separation on Vega pal!
Title: Re: Vega (Claw/Balrog) from CvS2 (Memo POTS Template)
Post by: Fausto Mugen on July 20, 2020, 07:28:47 pm
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Vega is finished.

[Update 2020/07/20]

- Added Crouch Guard Crush.
- Rearranged palettes. The selection portrait is now displayed with the default palette.
- Fixes for some animations (timings, frames, etc.), based in CvS2.
- Changed some velocities, based in CvS2.
- Reduced velocity for the first attack of Splendid Claw.
- Added compatibility with Chizuru by Vans.
- Changed win portrait (sprite 9000,2).
- Added AI.
- Various fixes.
- Updated "Readme.txt" file
- Color separation progress: 1406 sprites done from 1474 (95,39% done). Sff done.

Download spritepack in first post.

Download Vega here: https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-cvs2-190592.new.html#new (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/vega-clawbalrog-cvs2-190592.new.html#new)